Ciao, Re your osmosis question to do with passenger lists of folks arriving in San Francisco from 1850-1860... :-)) Hope you find my post from Nov. 23, 1998 of some help with your question. I have not checked all these URLs lately - if you find any are not still working, please let me know, okay? Some of these lists are for ships coming from Europe to US east coast but most include at least SF arrivals.... ============================================================ Finding ships and passenger lists is as big a job as finding your relatives in the first place! Family Tree Maker says "Probably more time is spent hunting for our ancestors on ship passenger lists than any other type of research". There seems to be no "ONE MAGIC LIST" that covers this information. Here's some of the stuff that I have found. I know there has to be more. I am still looking. For now, let me make these few suggestions: 1) There are the RASMUSSENS LISTS (See Jim Smith of NORCAL's wonderful description @ http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/rasships.html in which he includes some other suggestions...) 2) Join TheShipsList-L@rootsweb.com (this is a high volume list and includes Immigrant ships - but there is LOTS of help available here.... 3) click on every URL you can find that has anything to do with ships!!! The ShipsList will give you lots of 'em but here are just a very few to get you started - (Note) if you have any trouble with these addresses, please ask me for it again) http://www.maritimeheritage.org http://192.41.11.174/distantc/Links/ships.html http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/ http://istg.rootsweb.com (note - this is diffrent that one just above!) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9787/ships.html http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm (note - The figures after "amalfi" are the number "THIRTEEN" - All other "l" characters are the lower-case letter "L". http://www.chignecto.net/TheShipsList http://www.cimorelli.com/vbclient/Shipmenu.htm http://www.fortunecity.com/littleitaly/amalfi/13/ships.htm http://digidesk.jbi.hioslo.no/~emigrant/index.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/3649/ships.html http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html 4)There are many, many, many microfilm records of ship passenger Lists - find this at: http://www.heritagequest.com/genealogy/ These films can be seen at some FHL's and at the National Archives. 5) After you find your ship and port and know the date :-)))))))))) Write to NARA (National Archives and Records Administration, 7th & Pennsylvania Ave. NW, Washington, DC 20408 for a NATF FORM 81 "ORDER FOR COPIES OF SHIP PASSENGER ARRIVAL RECORDS" to request the list that has your folks on it. They have a web site http://www.nara.gov/genealogy/ ================= Here's a couple of new ones that were not included in my original post: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/napasngr.html Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild THE COMPASS A Guide to Help Researchers http://istg.rootsweb.com/compass/begin.html Good luck from someone on this list who has answered that little question at least once before :-)))) RUTH ___________________ Ruth(Grady) & Don Skewis ruth4527@pacbell.net > -----Original Message----- > From: BrooksGen4@aol.com [mailto:BrooksGen4@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 4:48 PM > To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Sailing the Horn vs. Riding the Desert > > > Hi Judy, > I have the same exact questions. My Thomas Brooks apparently > sailed from > Wales and ended up in St.Louis MO. He then grabbed a wife and > sailed around > the Horn to Grass Valley via San Fran. He was a Welsh mining > engineer. How he > ended up in MO, I have no clue. Seems a wierd "jumping off" point, but he > made it here and made his fortune. I hope some day to figure that > story out, > it has to be a ducey. I also have Irish emigrants who did it the > old fashion > way and went from Ireland to Conneticutt to Nevada then Montana then > California. Something tells me alot depended on your financial > status as too > what was the mode of emigration in those days. > Good luck in your search. I'm still trying to find out if there > where arrival > lists for San Francisco passengers from 1850-1860. No one on this > list has > answered even that little question. I'm hoping the "osmosis" > method will kick > in here soon. :) > Ciao, Colin > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > We cannot post copyrighted materials to the Rootsweb lists > without written & signed permission from the author(s) > and/or publisher(s). >