Gerry, No i do not believe that John Murray is my kin, but never know as my Murrays came from middlesex, Virginia, lived around Williamsburg and married into my yates, who marrried into the Randolphs, which was pocohontas family and Thomas jefferson,s mother was a Randolph ist cousin to my sixt generation grandmother and grandmother to my John Murray yates. There were a lot of murrays as they had lots of children as was the common back in the early 1800,s. Abigail