Hi listers, I am new to the list and I am looking for information about my great grandfather John Trenley RANCE and my great great grandfather Richard JORDAN. John Trenley RANCE married Eliza Martha JORDAN, daughter of Richard and Isabella JORDAN in 1848 in Tasmania Australia. They had a son in 1849 also in Tasmania. They had another son in 1851 in New Zealand. I have been unable to find where they went between the birth of their second child and the birth of their fourth child a daughter in 1856 in gold field of Victoria Australia. I have been unable to find a birth for their third child George Trenley RANCE in either Australia or New Zealand although his marriage certificate says he was born in Sydney Australia. Richard JORDAN is listed as a gold miner and although Eliza Matha's mother Isabella went to Victoria to live with the RANCE family I have been unable to find any trace of the death of Richard JORDAN or any marriage or death of Richard JORDAN's son Francis JORDAN. I am wondering if they may have travelled to California America in search of gold, only to find that the alluvial gold had run out. Richard may have died and son Francis may have decided to stay in America while the RANCE's decided to return to Australia. Could SKS tell me if there would be any possibility of finding if there was a birth of a George Trenley RANCE in 1853-1854 in America and any trace of Richard JORDAN or his son Francis JORDAN. Thanking you Allan Rance Australia