Hi Bob and all; I never write here much because I dont have any Cal-Gold info to talk about, but I do save every post. I am not on Norcal any more as I had to cut a lot of my lists I was on. Any way awhile back we had a fellow who sent some of us the Calif map which came out about 2++ megs, well I found a way to cut it in half to 1.3+ megs and keep full resolution for any of you who wanted to take it to Lasor quick and have it printed, its called portable network graphics and is supported by Photo shop I hope some of you on this list had recieved that map, you might like to pass this on. Sorry to interupt the list, its the only one I am on that I think has some of the Norcal and Oregon-L . It was just a thought please e-mail me private for any more reference. Dan Matney PS I started a list for Klamath Co,Ore for any one who is intersted. Hi Bob--scuse me by Bob L;--))))) <Big Grin>