Boy, eaten by a whale - that might show up somewhere in the paper - but where? which paper? Let me try to see if I can find something on him in the census to establish where he was - I can check the 1852 thru 1880 on him. If he was an older brother he would possible have been 16-18 in that time period - did teens usually take off to CA without the rest of the family? Of course, he could be much older maybe in his early 20's - so that could be a possibility to explore. Sandra From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Wallace MURRAY in CA Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:15:03 EDT Sandra, I'm sorry, I didn't give you much to work with, did I? I don't have an exact date because I can't find the @#$%%$#@ MURRAYs!! My grgrandfather was born in Ohio in 1840. Wallace was his brother, so I assume he would have been born right around then. R.B. (grgrndf) was in the Civil War and when it ended, he left OH and came to Iowa. So, assuming again, there must not have been family there anymore, so I imagine Wallace went to CA 1850-1865? Maybe to look for gold?? The family lore said "Uncle Wall went to California and got eaten by a whale." Now you know as much as I about him and much, much more about CA and genealogy, so I'll leave the where to look to you. Is that O.k.? Hope you have a very nice weekend! Janis