Thank you for posting. None of mine were there, but what a find for someone. Nancy in OR ----- Original Message ----- From: Norby Family To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:09 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Fw: 1850 letter posted to Stanislaus list From: Donashel2 <tapworc@inreach.com> >Here is a copy of a letter that I have it says that Mr. Crow and Co. are at >the mouth of the Feather River. The letter was dated Oct. 6th, 1850 and was >from Nevada City, Upper California, Couty of Yuba . >Letter from California > The following interesting letter was received by Mrs. S. A. Colvin, of >Spencerburg, from her husband, who left his county with the Pike train last >spring. The news it contains is not the latest, but is of general interest >to those of this section of the State who have friends in California on >account of its particularizing names. We omit that portionof it which >relates to the trip across the plains. It is dated..... >Nevada City, Upper California, County of Yuba, Oct. 6th, 1850 >I found here a number of my old acquaintances who came out last year, to >wit: Robert Shaw, Dudley Phears, Harvey Wilson, Isaac and Joel Riperdan >Macur Ocheltree and C. F. Kirtley of Palmyra, Mo. I also saw George Ogle, >D. J. Almond, Henry Crow and Dr. B. F. Todd, who came this year. They were >all in good health, except Ogle, who looked quite badly, but he was able to >work. George told me he had seen T. Ford a few days before on the Yuba >river, he was well, but had had bad luck, he bought some cattle to sell >again and had driven off by Indians. >As there are many here who had realtions and friends in Pike and adjoining >counties, who may be anxious about them, I wish you to send a copy of this >to the Banner and Record, at Louisiana, and have it published, and keep the >original yourself. I will tell you their names and places of abode at >present, so far as I know: Mr. Crow and Co., are at the mouth of Feather >river with their cattle, J. Z. and T. H. Jameson of Lincoln county, Mo. are >on Yuba river, 25 miles distant, Z.W. and Robert Brown, of the same county , >are on Bear river, 15 miles , Ephrian Culloip, Dennis Grandfiele, B.A. >Williams, H. C. Reeds, John F. McNutt, Wm Coffee, George Hammock and J. R. >Myers of Lincoln, are here at Nevada, J. W. Gilmore of Lincoln, on the >Yuba. I will now give the names from Pike: J. P. Patterson of Paynesville >is here, John Worthley and William F. Jacobs, are on Bear River, 15 miles. >Leonard Peck went with Crow to Mr. Vernon at the mouth of Feather river, >also James T. Eastin, T. C. Johnson, William Doake, and Richard Ficklin. >Francis and William Mc Manama, from Scotland county, with Crow. J. W. >Gillum of Lincoln is at Steep Hollow. >I sent by express to Sacramento City for letters, but did not get any, nor >have I received a single line from any one since I left home. I concluded >not to write till I got news from Sacramento, but being disappointed in >getting letters, thought proper not to wait any longer, thinking you would >be anxious to hear from me as soon as possible. Martin Crow received a >letter bearing the sad intelligence of our affictions in the death of our >little babe, and Sarch A. Corker. I did not see the letter, and could not >learn the dates of their death. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Norby Family <norby@ainet.com> >To: <CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:18 PM >Subject: Re: [CASTANIS] FWD {to CASTANIS}: Walter Crow 1850 cattle >drive/burial site--Posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 Dec >1999 > > >> Have you visited this site? It is an index of all the names in the CA >> county biographies published late 1880s/early 1900s and available at the >CA >> Room of the state library in Sacramento. There's a search feature and it >> tells you how to order copies if you find one of your names. >> http://www.compuology.com/cpl/cpl_bio.htm >> >> Colleen Norby >> Rootsweb sponsor >> >> ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Edward A. Black, Sr. <w6uyf@earthlink.net> >> To: CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com <CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 12:10 PM >> Subject: [CASTANIS] FWD {to CASTANIS}: Walter Crow 1850 cattle >drive/burial >> site--Posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 Dec 1999 >> >> >> >The following was posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 >> >Dec 1999 >> >on the Stanislaus County GenConnect Query Forum: >> > >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> ------------------------- >> > >> >Surname: Crow, Eastin, South >> > >> >Looking for information on Walter Crow who brought a herd of cattle to >> >Ca. from Mo. in 1850 >> >and died along the way. Would like to find out where Walter is buried, >> >and what other family >> >members were on the trip with him and what happened to them. >> > >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> -------------------------- >> > >> >Any replies should be sent to the Stanislaus County GenConnect Query >> >Forum [<http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Stanislaus>] >> >unless it is personal or involves live people addresses etc. when it >> >should be sent to Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com>. >> > >> >-- >> > >> > >> >> > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== Automatic Administrative Reminder: Please remember to stay on topic - this list covers the Gold Rush period in California's early history (1840s-1880s).

From: Donashel2 <tapworc@inreach.com> >Here is a copy of a letter that I have it says that Mr. Crow and Co. are at >the mouth of the Feather River. The letter was dated Oct. 6th, 1850 and was >from Nevada City, Upper California, Couty of Yuba . >Letter from California > The following interesting letter was received by Mrs. S. A. Colvin, of >Spencerburg, from her husband, who left his county with the Pike train last >spring. The news it contains is not the latest, but is of general interest >to those of this section of the State who have friends in California on >account of its particularizing names. We omit that portionof it which >relates to the trip across the plains. It is dated..... >Nevada City, Upper California, County of Yuba, Oct. 6th, 1850 >I found here a number of my old acquaintances who came out last year, to >wit: Robert Shaw, Dudley Phears, Harvey Wilson, Isaac and Joel Riperdan >Macur Ocheltree and C. F. Kirtley of Palmyra, Mo. I also saw George Ogle, >D. J. Almond, Henry Crow and Dr. B. F. Todd, who came this year. They were >all in good health, except Ogle, who looked quite badly, but he was able to >work. George told me he had seen T. Ford a few days before on the Yuba >river, he was well, but had had bad luck, he bought some cattle to sell >again and had driven off by Indians. >As there are many here who had realtions and friends in Pike and adjoining >counties, who may be anxious about them, I wish you to send a copy of this >to the Banner and Record, at Louisiana, and have it published, and keep the >original yourself. I will tell you their names and places of abode at >present, so far as I know: Mr. Crow and Co., are at the mouth of Feather >river with their cattle, J. Z. and T. H. Jameson of Lincoln county, Mo. are >on Yuba river, 25 miles distant, Z.W. and Robert Brown, of the same county , >are on Bear river, 15 miles , Ephrian Culloip, Dennis Grandfiele, B.A. >Williams, H. C. Reeds, John F. McNutt, Wm Coffee, George Hammock and J. R. >Myers of Lincoln, are here at Nevada, J. W. Gilmore of Lincoln, on the >Yuba. I will now give the names from Pike: J. P. Patterson of Paynesville >is here, John Worthley and William F. Jacobs, are on Bear River, 15 miles. >Leonard Peck went with Crow to Mr. Vernon at the mouth of Feather river, >also James T. Eastin, T. C. Johnson, William Doake, and Richard Ficklin. >Francis and William Mc Manama, from Scotland county, with Crow. J. W. >Gillum of Lincoln is at Steep Hollow. >I sent by express to Sacramento City for letters, but did not get any, nor >have I received a single line from any one since I left home. I concluded >not to write till I got news from Sacramento, but being disappointed in >getting letters, thought proper not to wait any longer, thinking you would >be anxious to hear from me as soon as possible. Martin Crow received a >letter bearing the sad intelligence of our affictions in the death of our >little babe, and Sarch A. Corker. I did not see the letter, and could not >learn the dates of their death. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Norby Family <norby@ainet.com> >To: <CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 1:18 PM >Subject: Re: [CASTANIS] FWD {to CASTANIS}: Walter Crow 1850 cattle >drive/burial site--Posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 Dec >1999 > > >> Have you visited this site? It is an index of all the names in the CA >> county biographies published late 1880s/early 1900s and available at the >CA >> Room of the state library in Sacramento. There's a search feature and it >> tells you how to order copies if you find one of your names. >> http://www.compuology.com/cpl/cpl_bio.htm >> >> Colleen Norby >> Rootsweb sponsor >> >> ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø*°´°*ø,¸¸,ø >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Edward A. Black, Sr. <w6uyf@earthlink.net> >> To: CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com <CASTANIS-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, December 13, 1999 12:10 PM >> Subject: [CASTANIS] FWD {to CASTANIS}: Walter Crow 1850 cattle >drive/burial >> site--Posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 Dec 1999 >> >> >> >The following was posted by Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com> on Sun, 12 >> >Dec 1999 >> >on the Stanislaus County GenConnect Query Forum: >> > >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> ------------------------- >> > >> >Surname: Crow, Eastin, South >> > >> >Looking for information on Walter Crow who brought a herd of cattle to >> >Ca. from Mo. in 1850 >> >and died along the way. Would like to find out where Walter is buried, >> >and what other family >> >members were on the trip with him and what happened to them. >> > >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >> -------------------------- >> > >> >Any replies should be sent to the Stanislaus County GenConnect Query >> >Forum [<http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ca/Stanislaus>] >> >unless it is personal or involves live people addresses etc. when it >> >should be sent to Mary Campbell <abc123@aol.com>. >> > >> >-- >> > >> > >> >> >

At 1:16 PM -0800 12/13/99, CA-GOLDRUSH-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >X-Message: #2 >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 02:06:15 -0500 >From: alexrobbin@juno.com >To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <19991213.023333.-286727.33.alexrobbin@juno.com> >Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Y2K computer tip >Content-Type: text/plain >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >When I followed the instructions below, I discovered that the "date >setting" on my machine leaves it vulnerable. We're invited to circulate >this warning and the remedy -- > >On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:24:17 EST RonaldBuc@aol.com writes: > > > > Subject: Windows 95 & 98 > > Y2K Computer tip Folks, Please refrain from posting Y2K, virus, and other computer-related messages on CA-GOLDRUSH. Thanks! Yvonne Oliver Bowers, Listmom, GenConnect Administratior, Proud Rootsweb Sponsor NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-GOLDRUSH, CA-EARTHQUAKE-L NORCAL Library http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html NORCAL Genealogy Index http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/ CA-GOLDRUSH Most Wanted: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html

Zinger! I fell for it, despite having sent warnings of hoaxes myself in the past. (They usually give themselves away by telling you to pass the message along.) I didn't see this one in the hoax/chain letter/urban legends sites in my file. At least it isn't harmful. A helpful person sent the URL below. -------- On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 04:34:55 EST CWMeb@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 99-12-13 03:34:25 EST, alexrobbin@juno.com writes: > > << but you'll be surprised that Windows may still crash unless you do the simple exercise below. >> > > This is actually a hoax. That particular time is for display purposes only. To read about this hoax go to: <A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/y2k/hoax/y2khoax.htm">Y2K Hoax</A> > > Actual URL is: http://www.microsoft.com/y2k/hoax/y2khoax.htm > > Regards, > Bill

When I followed the instructions below, I discovered that the "date setting" on my machine leaves it vulnerable. We're invited to circulate this warning and the remedy -- On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:24:17 EST RonaldBuc@aol.com writes: > > Subject: Windows 95 & 98 > Y2K Computer tip > > You may think your PC is "Y2K" compliant and some little tests may have actually affirmed that your hardware is compliant, but you'll be surprised that Windows may still crash unless you do the simple exercise below. Easy fix, but something Microsoft seems to have missed in certifying their software as Y2K compliant. > > This is simple to do, and VERY important. > Click "START" > Click on "SETTINGS" > Double click on "CONTROL PANEL" > Double click on "Regional settings icon (look for the little world globe) > Click on the "Date" tab at the top of the page (last tab on the top right) > Where it says "Short Date Sample" look and see if it shows a two -digit year format: "YY." Unless you have previously changed it, it will be set incorrectly with just 2 Y's. It NEEDS to be 4 Y's. That's because Microsoft made the 2 digits setting the Default setting for Windows 95 and Windows 98. This date format selected is the date that Windows feeds ALL application > software and will not rollover into the year 2000. It will roll over into the year "00" > Click on the little arrow button for "Short Date Style" and select the option that shows "mm/DD/yyyy" or "m/d/yyyy". Be sure your selection has four Y's and not just mm/DD/yy. > Then click "Apply" > Then click "OK" > Pass this info on to your PC buddies. No matter how much of a computer guru they think they are this might be a welcome bit of information!

Don't forget the City Library. It has the added advantage of being open on Sundays. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: Norby Family <norby@ainet.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [GOLDRUSH] Sacramento Resource Suggestions > Hi Jack, > > Haven't seen a response to your inquiry on line so here goes: > > You have to visit the CA room of the State Library. Start here for an > excellent article by Sandra Harris on what to expect: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/caroom.html > > 900 N Street > Sacramento, CA 95814 > > California History Room > Room 200 > Phone: 916-654-0176 > Email to: cslcal@library.ca.gov > > California State Library materials are available for all Californians for > in-library use. Librarians and other staff are available in public service > areas Monday through Friday from 9:30 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. in Sacramento > > here is a list of what they have available to research - print it out and > make a list of what you want to look at before you go > http://www.library.ca.gov/html/genealogy.html > > Close by is the Clifornia State Archives, a division of the Secretary of > State´s Office, which has an extensive collection of records from the > agencies of State government. Information on individuals may be found in > these records. The State Archives is located at 1020 O Street, Sacramento, > CA 95814. Ph: (916) 653-2246. > > I haven't been the archives so I can't comment on it. Maybe someone else > can. > > > Colleen Norby > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Your Name <jkennedywinterset@worldnet.att.net> > To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:43 PM > Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Sacramento Resource Suggestions > > > >I am planning to be in the Sacramento area in February looking for > >information on my gggf, Robert Kennedy(b.1818 in Pa.) who left his > >family in Illinois in 1858-60 and went around the Cape to the goldfields > >of California. His wife received a few letters and then was never heard > >from again. I have checked the Ca. census from 1860 -1900, San Francisco > >Passenger lists and San Fran papers with no sucess. Any suggestions for > >a starting place would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > >Jack Kennedy > > > > > >==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > >Automatic Administrative Reminder: > >ROOTSWEB is archiving the CA-GOLDRUSH-D digest messages, and the search > screen > >is at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CA-GOLDRUSH > > >

Hi Jack, Haven't seen a response to your inquiry on line so here goes: You have to visit the CA room of the State Library. Start here for an excellent article by Sandra Harris on what to expect: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/caroom.html 900 N Street Sacramento, CA 95814 California History Room Room 200 Phone: 916-654-0176 Email to: cslcal@library.ca.gov California State Library materials are available for all Californians for in-library use. Librarians and other staff are available in public service areas Monday through Friday from 9:30 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. in Sacramento here is a list of what they have available to research - print it out and make a list of what you want to look at before you go http://www.library.ca.gov/html/genealogy.html Close by is the Clifornia State Archives, a division of the Secretary of State´s Office, which has an extensive collection of records from the agencies of State government. Information on individuals may be found in these records. The State Archives is located at 1020 O Street, Sacramento, CA 95814. Ph: (916) 653-2246. I haven't been the archives so I can't comment on it. Maybe someone else can. Colleen Norby -----Original Message----- From: Your Name <jkennedywinterset@worldnet.att.net> To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 7:43 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Sacramento Resource Suggestions >I am planning to be in the Sacramento area in February looking for >information on my gggf, Robert Kennedy(b.1818 in Pa.) who left his >family in Illinois in 1858-60 and went around the Cape to the goldfields >of California. His wife received a few letters and then was never heard >from again. I have checked the Ca. census from 1860 -1900, San Francisco >Passenger lists and San Fran papers with no sucess. Any suggestions for >a starting place would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. >Jack Kennedy > > >==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== >Automatic Administrative Reminder: >ROOTSWEB is archiving the CA-GOLDRUSH-D digest messages, and the search screen >is at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CA-GOLDRUSH >

I am looking for information on Elijah (Lige) PERRY who came to California around 1850. His wife Adeline/Celia (Mapes) Perry joined him with her two children, George and Delia (from a previous marriage) after sailing around the Cape, voyage paid for with gold he had found. My gggf John Francis PERRY was born in Fiddletown (now Oleta) in 1858. I found an old census that indicates he was born around 1823, but no specifics on where he was from. He apparently came west with pal, John SPARKS. Thank you, Laura Jones LJADVENTUR@aol.com

Dear List, I have not turned on my computer since November 29th(not a recomended idea), I started to wade through over 800 messages from various lists. I find that maybe there was a mis-interpretation at what was meant to be said concerning the diaries. Personnally, I would like to see some of the stuff posted to the list, as I am interested in what might pertain to the Names that I am researching. Tim, if you are going to post parts of these diaries somewhere else, if not here please let me know. Laura Tyler laurat@succeed.net Co-Host for Yuba County USGenWeb Site http://www.rootsweb.com/~cayuba/

>From: lcoultel@bellsouth.net >Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:29:12 -0500 >X-Accept-Language: en >To: "Donna@MBS" <mbs@inland.net> >Subject: Re: Thought You Might Find This Interesting >References: <3.0.32.19991208214145.010056d8@inland.net> > >Pass it on. >Linda > >"Donna@MBS" wrote: > >> This is really cute. Mind if I pass it on? >> Donna >> >> At 08:38 PM 12/8/99 -0500, lcoultel@bellsouth.net wrote: >> > >> >> Twas The Day Before Yesterday >> >> >> >> TWAS the day before yesterday and all through the branches, >> >> NOT a name to be found, none of my ancestors. >> >> >> >> THE Journals and Bibles were dusty and worn, >> >> WHY should we care, these kinfolk are gone. >> >> >> >> THE pictures of children and family, long ago dead, >> >> ARE scattered, crinkled, and crammed under beds. >> >> >> >> DAD in his chair, and I with a book, >> >> HAD just settled back to give the TV a look. >> >> >> >> WHEN out on the street there arose such a clatter, >> >> I sprang to my feet to see what was the matter. >> >> >> >> ON the way to the window I tripped with a crash, >> >> I tore open the curtains and looked through the glass. >> >> >> >> THE sun in the sky was nowhere in sight, >> >> THE clouds were so gray, it could have been night. >> >> >> >> WHEN what to my wondering eyes should appear, >> >> THE Mailman with packages, letters and cards of good cheer. >> >> >> >> THE driver was grumbling while sorting his letters, >> >> I knew in a moment, things had to get better. >> >> >> >> THE size of one letter stood out from them all, >> >> A distant cousin was asking about family, one and all. >> >> >> >> THE names of Grandpa and Grandma, Great Grandparents all, >> >> NEXT came my Father, my Brother, and Uncle Paul. >> >> >> >> FROM cousins and uncles to aunts and nephews, >> >> NIECES and in-laws, just to name a few. >> >> >> >> SO through the many journals and photos, and stuff I possessed, >> >> MY search for my ancestors slowly progressed. >> >> >> >> WHILE up the family tree I gradually climbed, >> >> MY ancestors names, I was seeking to find. >> >> >> >> UPON that tree I have carved many a name, >> >> THE branches of which, will never be the same. >> >> >> >> THE tree is now filled with many I've found, >> >> BUT in the search for others, now I am bound. >> >> >> >> THE ancestors whose names, I have written with love, >> >> THE Lord has gathered to take to His Father above. >> >> >> >> WITH so many names yet to be carved on that tree, >> >> I have little time to waste on games and TV. >> >> >> >> GATHERING names, photos, histories and places, >> >> REQUIRES a lot of love, patience, and God's good graces. >> >> >> >> SOME were Farmers, Soldiers & such, Mothers & Fathers >> >> who struggled much. >> >> SOME were Settlers, who traveled far, some Adventures, >> >> who followed the stars. >> >> >> >> SOME were rich, but most were poor, they came by ship, >> >> seeking more. >> >> SOME died young, others old, many their stories yet untold. >> >> >> >> I cried when I thought of those brothers and sisters, >> >> FOR I am who I am, thanks to my ancestors. >> >> >> >> MY family is but one branch on the Tree of Life, >> >> A tree that grew strong through toil and strife. >> >> >> >> ALONE, I'm just a bare twig or a stub, >> >> TOGETHER we build a Family Tree of Love >> > >> > >> > > > >

There was a r. kenneday biography in Lake county 1881. Abigail

There is a CA-GOLDRUSH web site dedicated to "lost" ancestors where you can post a query: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Your Name [mailto:jkennedywinterset@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:34 PM > To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: CA-GOLDRUSH-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: Sacramento Resource Suggestions > > > I am planning to be in the Sacramento area in February looking for > information on my gggf, Robert Kennedy(b.1818 in Pa.) who left his > family in Illinois in 1858-60 and went around the Cape to the goldfields > of California. His wife received a few letters and then was never heard > from again. I have checked the Ca. census from 1860 -1900, San Francisco > Passenger lists and San Fran papers with no sucess. Any suggestions for > a starting place would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. > Jack Kennedy >

I spent many hours in the 1950s doing aircraft carrier landing practice on the Navy airfield at Crows Landing. Never knew until decades later that my maternal grandmother was born right down the road at Newman, California. WDA CDR USN Ret. end ----- Original Message ----- From: Norby Family <norby@ainet.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:46 AM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Descendent of Crows Landing founder dies at 82 > Descendent of Crows Landing founder dies at 82 > By PATRICK GIBLIN > BEE STAFF WRITER > (Published: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 MODESTO BEE) > > TURLOCK -- Vernon Rodney Munson, a direct descendent of the founder of > Crows Landing, died Saturday of Lou Gehrig's disease. He was 82. > > Mr. Munson was a longtime owner of Scotty's Tavern, believed to be > Turlock's oldest bar. > > He was born June 8, 1917, in Modesto, and spent part of his early > childhood in Crows Landing, a community founded in 1865 by John Bradford > Crow, his great-great grandfather. > > Crows Landing originally was built on the banks of the San Joaquin River, > and the Crow family operated a steamship operation throughout the state. > When the railroad came, the family moved the entire town to the tracks, > according to Mr. Munson's daughter, Susan Smith of Denair. > > "They even moved the buildings," she said. "Dad still owned part of the > original Crows Landing on the river, and he leased it out for farming. It > has been passed from family member to family member all this time." > > According to family papers, Crow moved from Kentucky to Missouri to farm > in the early 1840s but was bitten by gold fever when gold was discovered in > California. In 1849, he traveled West and spent a few years in California > before concluding that he could make a better living as a farmer than as a > gold miner. > > "He traveled back to Missouri, and in 1865, he headed one of the largest > wagon trains ever and came back here," Smith said. "The history books credit > him with the success of the wagon train." > > Mr. Munson spent his later childhood years in Modesto. In 1941, he moved > to Oakland, where he worked for Southern Pacific railroad, making sure > supplies made their way to military bases during World War II. When the war > ended, Mr. Munson's father bought Scotty's Tavern on Turlock's Main Street. > > "It was the place to go when my father and grandfather owned it," Smith > said. "Everyone who was anyone went there. And on New Year's Eve, it was > packed." > > Mr. Munson also did behind-the-scenes charity work. Several retired > laborers lived in apartments above the tavern, Smith said. "We found some > papers that show that he helped buy burial plots for a lot of those guys. > They were all living on pensions and couldn't afford it, and he felt they > deserved it." > > In the 1960s, Mr. Munson opened Munco Wholesale Sporting Goods, which > specialized in fishing equipment. Intended to support his fishing hobby, the > business grew rapidly. "It got so big that Dad couldn't keep up with it," > she said. "He ended up liquidating all the merchandise and closing it > because he couldn't find anyone to run it." > > In 1974, Mr. Munson's wife suffered a stroke. He sold Scotty's and spent > the next 16 years taking care of her until she died. > > In October of this year, Mr. Munson was diagnosed with amyotrophic > lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig's disease. > > He died at Brandel Manor convalescent hospital. > > Besides Smith, Mr. Munson is survived by another daughter, Janie McDonald > of Aptos; and four grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. > > A funeral will be at 1 p.m. Wednesday at Allen Mortuary. Burial will be > at Turlock Memorial Park. Visitation will be from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. today and > from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. Wednesday at the mortuary. > > Remembrances may be made to the Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis > Association, Bay Area Chapter, 140 Geary St., Fourth Floor, San Francisco > 94108. > > > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > "Most Wanted of our Lost in Early California Ancestors" > is a web page for members of this list to post queries. > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8861/goldrush98.htm> >

I am planning to be in the Sacramento area in February looking for information on my gggf, Robert Kennedy(b.1818 in Pa.) who left his family in Illinois in 1858-60 and went around the Cape to the goldfields of California. His wife received a few letters and then was never heard from again. I have checked the Ca. census from 1860 -1900, San Francisco Passenger lists and San Fran papers with no sucess. Any suggestions for a starting place would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jack Kennedy

Descendent of Crows Landing founder dies at 82 By PATRICK GIBLIN BEE STAFF WRITER (Published: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 MODESTO BEE) TURLOCK -- Vernon Rodney Munson, a direct descendent of the founder of Crows Landing, died Saturday of Lou Gehrig's disease. He was 82. Mr. Munson was a longtime owner of Scotty's Tavern, believed to be Turlock's oldest bar. He was born June 8, 1917, in Modesto, and spent part of his early childhood in Crows Landing, a community founded in 1865 by John Bradford Crow, his great-great grandfather. Crows Landing originally was built on the banks of the San Joaquin River, and the Crow family operated a steamship operation throughout the state. When the railroad came, the family moved the entire town to the tracks, according to Mr. Munson's daughter, Susan Smith of Denair. "They even moved the buildings," she said. "Dad still owned part of the original Crows Landing on the river, and he leased it out for farming. It has been passed from family member to family member all this time." According to family papers, Crow moved from Kentucky to Missouri to farm in the early 1840s but was bitten by gold fever when gold was discovered in California. In 1849, he traveled West and spent a few years in California before concluding that he could make a better living as a farmer than as a gold miner. "He traveled back to Missouri, and in 1865, he headed one of the largest wagon trains ever and came back here," Smith said. "The history books credit him with the success of the wagon train." Mr. Munson spent his later childhood years in Modesto. In 1941, he moved to Oakland, where he worked for Southern Pacific railroad, making sure supplies made their way to military bases during World War II. When the war ended, Mr. Munson's father bought Scotty's Tavern on Turlock's Main Street. "It was the place to go when my father and grandfather owned it," Smith said. "Everyone who was anyone went there. And on New Year's Eve, it was packed." Mr. Munson also did behind-the-scenes charity work. Several retired laborers lived in apartments above the tavern, Smith said. "We found some papers that show that he helped buy burial plots for a lot of those guys. They were all living on pensions and couldn't afford it, and he felt they deserved it." In the 1960s, Mr. Munson opened Munco Wholesale Sporting Goods, which specialized in fishing equipment. Intended to support his fishing hobby, the business grew rapidly. "It got so big that Dad couldn't keep up with it," she said. "He ended up liquidating all the merchandise and closing it because he couldn't find anyone to run it." In 1974, Mr. Munson's wife suffered a stroke. He sold Scotty's and spent the next 16 years taking care of her until she died. In October of this year, Mr. Munson was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or Lou Gehrig's disease. He died at Brandel Manor convalescent hospital. Besides Smith, Mr. Munson is survived by another daughter, Janie McDonald of Aptos; and four grandchildren and four great-grandchildren. A funeral will be at 1 p.m. Wednesday at Allen Mortuary. Burial will be at Turlock Memorial Park. Visitation will be from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. today and from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. Wednesday at the mortuary. Remembrances may be made to the Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis Association, Bay Area Chapter, 140 Geary St., Fourth Floor, San Francisco 94108.

Gerry, No i do not believe that John Murray is my kin, but never know as my Murrays came from middlesex, Virginia, lived around Williamsburg and married into my yates, who marrried into the Randolphs, which was pocohontas family and Thomas jefferson,s mother was a Randolph ist cousin to my sixt generation grandmother and grandmother to my John Murray yates. There were a lot of murrays as they had lots of children as was the common back in the early 1800,s. Abigail

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mary of Melbourne, go to http://www..compuology.com/cpl/cpl_bio.htm and go to shasta county and then go to nothern california biographies and hit index and you will find a biography on John murray that you can order. good luck Abigail p.s. in 1891 john Muray and a J. murray was in the nothern California city directories as being in San Francisco, have you looked o the California census for him????/ or the federal census?/

Abigail Parrish: Your post on John MURRAY caught my attention. I am researching Murray's that came from MO in 1850 and settled in the Willamette Valley in Oregon and then also in Siskiyou County in California. Absolm Murray and family settled in Oregon and one of his sons, named Caswell went to California and married an Elizabeth SKEEN. Are any of Your Murray's from this line? Thanks Gerry In Oregon