This site seems to work for me. The first time it did not but it has since. After you register with your address you get to the search page. Put in your name information and up comes a list of names. Then click on the number to the far right and up comes the name and address of the person who submitted the name. Then you write them a letter. That is the extent of it. Try it again. Ralph Anderson Boulder, CO rkaboulder@bwn.net

Lance, I agree with you. Remember when our mothers told us there was NO free lunch? I tried to search their files, and what I found was some names, but nothing I could use. The best place to look is the local Libraries, and Historical Societies where the ancestor lived. The only information that I have found that has been good is through queries like this site or on other free sites where an other descendant is looking for the same people. We have met some neat cousins that we did not know existed. Our family has decided that we would not post our information with any of these groups. There is a website that has some of it on, but just a nibble. IF any wants to know more, they can contact one of descendants for more information. Roberta Hammon Searching for KENNEY and GOLDER in the Gold Fields. Lance Beeson wrote: > Everton will allow you to SUBMIT INFO FOR FREE!!!! Gee, thanks. If there is a way to search their files, I > haven;t found it yet. I am going to try it one more time, since I am "registered." > > Genealogical inquiry is lighting up the Internet and attracting all kinds of private enterprise. Lotsa > little ee-lectronic Sam Brannans about. I am frequently notified by KINDRED KONNECTIONS (love that name, > hyuk hyuk). They hint that they might have something I haven;t seen, but I doubt it. > > On more pertinent topics, there have been a few questions about the Gold Rush on this forum lately that > caused me to thus comment: There are excellent books out regarding the Gold Rush. I highly recommend primary > sources that I read and re-read by these people: J.D. Borthwick, Frank Marryat, Etienne Derbec, F. > Gerstaecker and Dame Shirley. Most of the questions not specifically about individuals asked on this forum > recently would be answered in those pages. > The recent book by Malcolm Rorbaugh (Days of Gold) covers the social aspect even better than the > much-celebrated Holliday book. For violence and gunplay, John Boesseneckers newest "Gold Dust and Gunsmoke" > is breathtakingly complete on that subject. > > For lingo and Clamper culture, the very old Ritchie book "the Hell-Roarin 49ers" is great, but not to be > relied on for historical accuracy. > Some of the best books, including a few above are very old or very rare. Find your best local OLD library. > It's funny, you can tell about the buyers' interests from the old days by the selection of books in the > stacks. I think that the 50, 100 and now 150 year anniversaries of the Gold Rush spurred on publication and > subsequent purchases of some great Gold Rush books. And don;t be turned off by ragged covers or smoky > smells, they could be treasures of info for you. Also, the bio sections of County Histories often have good > clues even though they are not always real historically accurate. > > If you have good bookstores who re-sell, check em frequently. I regularly check at Black Oak books in > Berkeley because everytime an old Cal professor dies, there's a good chance the stuff will end up there. > Recently I saw a book from 1853, published in CA about the Gold Rush, I think it was by Lett (and I think it > has been reprinted). Water-stained but all pages there for $80. > > They also had, that day, a Spanish-English translation of Font's Diary, published in 1928 for $30. Specialty > stores are not going to price as cheap I think as those that I saw. I hate to say it, but I think I was > viewing someone's estate, liquidated by someone with less interest in CA History than the dear-departed. > Some days there is nothing but on others..... > > I'm not trying to be a know-it-all or gush, but I have read every single book about the Gold Rush I could > lay hands on and I urge you to read because it really can clear up some problems you might encounter in > your genealogical pursuits; social patterns, town histories, clues about specific Plains journeys, old > placenames etc. Even though tens of thousands of men came every season, you do start to get a feel for who > went where among Anglo-Americans, mostly. > > Best wishes, > > Lance Beeson

Everton will allow you to SUBMIT INFO FOR FREE!!!! Gee, thanks. If there is a way to search their files, I haven;t found it yet. I am going to try it one more time, since I am "registered." Genealogical inquiry is lighting up the Internet and attracting all kinds of private enterprise. Lotsa little ee-lectronic Sam Brannans about. I am frequently notified by KINDRED KONNECTIONS (love that name, hyuk hyuk). They hint that they might have something I haven;t seen, but I doubt it. On more pertinent topics, there have been a few questions about the Gold Rush on this forum lately that caused me to thus comment: There are excellent books out regarding the Gold Rush. I highly recommend primary sources that I read and re-read by these people: J.D. Borthwick, Frank Marryat, Etienne Derbec, F. Gerstaecker and Dame Shirley. Most of the questions not specifically about individuals asked on this forum recently would be answered in those pages. The recent book by Malcolm Rorbaugh (Days of Gold) covers the social aspect even better than the much-celebrated Holliday book. For violence and gunplay, John Boesseneckers newest "Gold Dust and Gunsmoke" is breathtakingly complete on that subject. For lingo and Clamper culture, the very old Ritchie book "the Hell-Roarin 49ers" is great, but not to be relied on for historical accuracy. Some of the best books, including a few above are very old or very rare. Find your best local OLD library. It's funny, you can tell about the buyers' interests from the old days by the selection of books in the stacks. I think that the 50, 100 and now 150 year anniversaries of the Gold Rush spurred on publication and subsequent purchases of some great Gold Rush books. And don;t be turned off by ragged covers or smoky smells, they could be treasures of info for you. Also, the bio sections of County Histories often have good clues even though they are not always real historically accurate. If you have good bookstores who re-sell, check em frequently. I regularly check at Black Oak books in Berkeley because everytime an old Cal professor dies, there's a good chance the stuff will end up there. Recently I saw a book from 1853, published in CA about the Gold Rush, I think it was by Lett (and I think it has been reprinted). Water-stained but all pages there for $80. They also had, that day, a Spanish-English translation of Font's Diary, published in 1928 for $30. Specialty stores are not going to price as cheap I think as those that I saw. I hate to say it, but I think I was viewing someone's estate, liquidated by someone with less interest in CA History than the dear-departed. Some days there is nothing but on others..... I'm not trying to be a know-it-all or gush, but I have read every single book about the Gold Rush I could lay hands on and I urge you to read because it really can clear up some problems you might encounter in your genealogical pursuits; social patterns, town histories, clues about specific Plains journeys, old placenames etc. Even though tens of thousands of men came every season, you do start to get a feel for who went where among Anglo-Americans, mostly. Best wishes, Lance Beeson

Looking for data on my husbands g grandparents: Jonathan Lambert RAYNER and Sarah Erma LOCK(H)ART. They m. in ca.1886 in CA but their families came to West in early 1850's(supposedly she changed the 'or' to 'er'......wonder why? Supposedly there were 4 RAYNER or RAYNOR bros who came from Eng around Cape Horn to San Francisco ca. 1850..... The LOCK(H)ART's came in a wagon train in late 1850 from MO, but they were from PA. and IN. Happy Trails, J in MT Also, visit my 4 personal home pages on spirituality and genealogy: http://www.geocities.com/crystalwoman_2000/ crystalwoman@in-tch.com

Send me the book numbers and pages and I can do it for you. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: <DiJaq@aol.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Re: Everton and further NDGW help needed > I tried searching the Everton site last night and did pull up possible family > members but was asked to subscribe for 49.99$ to access further info! That is > not free!!!!!!!! This is an FYI only. I found several family members in the > NDGW directory the first time around and I need lookups and transcriptions > for them if any volunteers are available I will gladly reimburse expenses.TIA > diane,dijaq@aol.com >

unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: <CA-GOLDRUSH-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: CA-GOLDRUSH-D Digest V00 #64

In a message dated 03/29/2000 2:48:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, CA-GOLDRUSH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I tried searching the Everton site last night and did pull up possible family members but was asked to subscribe for 49.99$ to access further info! That is not free!!!!!!!! >> I had the same thing happen. The database we non-subscribers are allowed to search isn't one they usually charge for, anyway. They are not offering anything that is different from usual. Where did you get the 1 week window-of-time to search dates? Sharon Dulcich Bakersfield, CA

I tried searching the Everton site last night and did pull up possible family members but was asked to subscribe for 49.99$ to access further info! That is not free!!!!!!!! This is an FYI only. I found several family members in the NDGW directory the first time around and I need lookups and transcriptions for them if any volunteers are available I will gladly reimburse expenses.TIA diane,dijaq@aol.com

Re: >Gold Rush Ship: Independence was Lost....List of Passengers who >boarded in NY: (snip) How absolutely amazing! There is ol' J R Willoughby, who lost all his money and belongings, to arrive in SF penniless. My Andrew Drumm advanced him funds, and set him up in business, Willoghby Bros and Drumm, a butcher shop. He eventually bought Andrew out and later bought a large cattle ranch in San Louis Obispo Co, and retired quite well off. Quite a shock to find his name among the passengers of the ship Independance, it was never named in Willoughby's account. Babcocks too, may be descended here in Springville. --JD

>For those who don't already know about Everton's Roots Cellar, they have over >one million names of ancestors. Each entry is for one single person with a >name, date, event and location and links the person to the genealogist >working on that family line, along with their address. > >Everton's Roots Cellar has been available for purchase or subscription for >some time. But for the next week, from today (Monday, March 27th) through >Monday, April 3rd, you can search this very informative database free of >charge. > >To search it, go to: > >http://www.everton.com/roots-cellar > >Happy Hunting! > >MargoBelle >

>Delivered-To: js-net.com%ab6wu@js-net.com >X-Received: 28 Mar 2000 14:00:25 GMT >Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) >X-Original-Sender: phyl7dale@inetnow.net Tue Mar 28 05:59:23 2000 >From: "Phyl Schiwal" <phyl7dale@inetnow.net> >Old-To: <BACON-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:03:44 -0500 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Subject: [Bacon] Bacons on this boat >To: BACON-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: BACON-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: BACON-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <BACON-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2076 >X-Loop: BACON-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: BACON-L-request@rootsweb.com > >FYI - found this on another list. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Farns10th@aol.com> >To: <GenMassachusetts-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 3:24 PM >Subject: [GM-L] Ship: Independence Lost 1853 - List of Passengers who >boarded at NY > > >Gold Rush Ship: Independence was Lost....List of Passengers who >boarded in NY: > >We the undersigned surviving passengers and crew of the steamship >Independence, authorize Ezra Drown, Esq. To subscribe our names to an >article for the public press to be prepared by him, in which he may >charge the loss of the steamship Independence on the 16th of February >1853, to the carelessness, mismanagement or willfulness of Capt. >Sampson. > >http://www.maritimeheritage.org/PassLists/in021653.html > >Captain Sampson was quoted as saying that he dismissed the rocks as >whales. > >Cargo: Not listed. > >Passengers: >The March 9, 1853 Daily Alta California lists the following as >departing >New York on the steamer Northern Light on January 20th and boarding >the >steamer Independence. > >Abbott, Joel >Aberle, David >Argell, Wm. (Might be Wm. Argall) >Arnott, Jacob >Ayres, Mrs. M.S. >Babcock, Wm. S. and Harry C. >Bacon, Wallace >Bacon, Wm. >Baker, Elijah >Baker, P. >Barber, Morris >Barker, D.M. >Bateman, W. >Baum, Jacob >Baxter, Freeman >Baxter, Mrs. F. >Bean, Hiram C. >Bechard, John >Bell, William >Bellows, C.D. >Bignall, Wm. K. >Bishop, Daniel F. >Block, E. >Bloomfield, Mrs. A. >Bordon, Wallace >Bordon, Wm. L. >Bowen, Alex C. >Bronw, Wilkinson >Browington, R.M. >Brown, Alex >Brown, John >Bruce, Henry >Buffum, E. >Burgess, Thomas >Byars, Daniel H. >Caldwell, J. >Cameron, B.F. >Carmichael, A. >Carter, Peter >Chase, W. >Chauncey, M. >Childs, Sandford >Cohn, B. >Cook, E.G. >Cook, Z., Jr. >Corey, W. >Cox, Peter >Cross, James >Cross, L.B. >Cullan, C.R. >Daley, D. >Davidson, Samuel >Davidson, Wm. >Davis, George T. >Davis, John >Day, L. >Dexer, L.P. >Dickey, B.F. >Dickey, Mrs. >Douglass, Robert H. >Doyle, W. >Drake, Ezekiel, R. >Drown, E. >Drown, Mrs. E. (Eliza Drown) >Felt, James D. >Felt, Lauren P. >Feuamien, P.R. (Next to impossible to read) >Finch, Wm. H. >Findley, D. >Fisher, Aaron >Fisher, C. >Flemings, James >Ford, Hiram >Freet, Michael >Fuller, Loomis P. >Garrett, Edward >Garton, Harvey >Gilmore, Andrew >Gilmore, Coris >Gilmore, Frederick >Gilmore, S.D. >Gitting, Robert >Gliss, J. >Gorton, Jos >Granniss, C.D. >Gray, Lemmel L. >Green, Joseph >Greenbank, J.W. >Greenfield, H.S. >Grotts, J. >Guignon, J. >Gutwell, T.M. (Difficult to read. Might be T.M.G. Atwell, or other) >Hale, J.O. >Hale, Oliver >Hall, C. >Hall, E.N. >Hall, J.F. >Hall, Mrs. C. >Halstead, J. >Halstead, J.T. >Hardy, C.C. >Harney, F. >Harrington, L. >Hatch, R. >Hatch, W.B. >Hemphill, Abram >Hixon, J. >Holmes, W. >Howe, G.W. >Howland, C.M. >Howland, J.T. >Howland, John >Howland, Mrs. >Howland, S.C. >Imlie, Wm. (Might be Imiie or other) >Ingles, Mrs. E. >Ingles, Mrs. G.W. >James, J. >Jeffers, James G. >Johnson, J.G. >Kimball, G. >Kittredge, Asa >Knox, R.A. >Lackeny, Miss M. >Lateer, G.W. (Might be Lareer, Laceer, other) >Leadley, John H. >Lebillister, W. >Lewis, J.P. >Light, E. >Light, Evelett >Light, Jas >Light, Mrs. F. >Lincoln, W., L. and A. >Manning, Edward K. >Marvin, E.C. >Masterman, John >McCandless, W.. >McDonald, Matthew >Mendoza, J. >Mittmiore, James H. >Morris, G. >Morse, Wiley >Mosher, H. >Mosher, R. >Mott, Harper >Moulton, W.S. >Muffin, F. >Muffin, G.W. >Muffin, Mrs. F. >Murphy, Daniel >Murphy, John >Murphy, Mrs. Mary Ann >Myers, Jacob >Nellis, E. >Nelson, J.D. >Newell, Edward H. >Newell, William >Nichols, David >Nichols, James A. >Nolan, L. >O�Neal, Thomas >Orr, W. >Owens, Davis >Parchard, Henry >Parker, Aaron >Parker, Michael >Parmenter, James C. >Paul, S.S. >Pell, H.W. >Penny, Andrew >Perkins, George >Peterson, Charles P. >Pierce, Mrs. W. >Pierce, W. >Potter, Samuel S. >Poudeu, S. >Rearim, J. >Reinbelt, Richard >Reynolds, A.B. >Richardson, Abiatha >Richardson, Isaac >Richmond, Mrs. H.E. >Robbins, Samuel >Roberts, Henry >Rock, N. (Might be Reck) >Scofield, Mrs. W.G. >Scofield, W.E. >Scott, A. >Scott, Wm. >Searls, W.A. >Seward, A. >Smith, H. >Smith, I.P. >Smith, Ira >Sparhawk, J.E. >Stanley, Lieut. F. >Steele, J. >Stephens, Samuel >Stevens, W.W. >Stevenson, L.C. >Stockdale, R. >Stokes, W.G. >Stone, J. >Straus, H. >Sullivan, Mrs. Fanny >Suorn, L.C. (Might be Sugon, Sucon, or other) >Sweet, Lorenzo >Tallon, J. >Tayler, Caleb W. >Taylor, Henry >Taylor, Robert >Taylor, Simon >Thayer, Cyrus (Might be Hyrus Thayer, Tyrus Thayer) >Thieme, John >Turner, A.B. >Turner, A.W. >Van Snun, W. >Vaustan, T.S. >Ward, B.F. >Ward, C.A. >Weatherington, Alex >Weatherington, Jos >Weaver, Jacob >Weddell, Miss A.J. >Weddell, P.M. >Welch,Mrs. Ann >Westoff, J. >Wheeler, H. >Whitney, Warren >Williams, John >Willoughby, J.R. >Wilson, Thos M. >Zinn, H.C. >278 in the steerage > > > >==== BACON Mailing List ==== >"To each is given a bag of tools, a shapeless mass, and a Book of Rules. And, each has made, ere life has flown, a Stumbling Block or a Stepping Stone" > > >

I am trying to find passenger lists for two ancestors that I have found on a ships list from San Juan Nicaragua to SF in July 1853. Can anyone tell me if there is a source of ships passenger lists from New Orleans to Nicaragua in early July 1853? I am looking for Michael and Julia Dowling. Thanks

http://www.southwestmuseum.org/ This will take you to their website- hope this is the right one-! Best, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Camilla Barror <cbarror@erols.com> To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, March 25, 2000 5:32 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Von Humboldt Ship's Log - 1849 >Howdy partners, >I have recently learned that my gggrandfather, Gideon Woodward, was >delegated to keep the ship's log for the ship Von Humboldt when he came to >California in 1849. According to his son's obituary (written in 1931) that >log was donated and place on exhibit in the Southwest Museum. Can anyone >help me locate either the log and/or the Southwest Museum? >Would love to hear from you! Thanks, Camilla Barror <cbarror@erols.com> > >

The CA-GOLDRUSH Most Wanted web page has been updated. Please visit at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html and see if your elusive Forty Niner is there! Comments most welcome. Yvonne Oliver Bowers, Listmom, GenConnect Administratior, Proud Rootsweb Sponsor NORCAL, SOCAL, CA-GOLDRUSH, CA-EARTHQUAKE-L NORCAL Library http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/norcallib.html NORCAL Genealogy Index http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/NORCAL%20index/ CA-GOLDRUSH Most Wanted: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~yvonne/CAGOLDRUSH/goldrushdigest.html

There is a "Museum of the Southwest" in Pasadena. Well worth a visit. © Phil Van Camp, pvc@vancamp.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Camilla Barror <cbarror@erols.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 5:01 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Von Humboldt Ship's Log - 1849 According to his son's obituary (written in 1931) that > log was donated and place on exhibit in the Southwest Museum. Can anyone > help me locate either the log and/or the Southwest Museum? > Would love to hear from you! Thanks, Camilla Barror <cbarror@erols.com> > >

Hello, I'm new to the list. My 2x grandfather John Kempthorne went to California in 1852. I do not know where in Ca. but thought possibly he went for the gold rush. He was last seen there in 1857 or 1859. Any suggestions where to look for information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Susan

Howdy partners, I have recently learned that my gggrandfather, Gideon Woodward, was delegated to keep the ship's log for the ship Von Humboldt when he came to California in 1849. According to his son's obituary (written in 1931) that log was donated and place on exhibit in the Southwest Museum. Can anyone help me locate either the log and/or the Southwest Museum? Would love to hear from you! Thanks, Camilla Barror <cbarror@erols.com>

I believe my 2nd great grandfather came in 1856 or 1857, was in El Dorado County doing something involving gold, his brother died 1857, then he returned to MA, then had his family back in Placer County by 1862. He mined until he died in 1912. So it appears gold mining might have been heavy activity for at least 50 years. -----Original Message----- From: Edward Ireton [mailto:kireton@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 6:52 AM To: CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GOLDRUSH] Time frame? Lillie. I don't have the answer to that although I would assume so. My ggg-grandfather and his brother came to CA from OH for the gold in the spring of 1855. They pursued their gold searching for additional 6 years in the area up near Placerville before moving to Woodland and continuing their profession as Lawyers. Hope this helps. -Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: lillie <rgwalch@canby.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Time frame? > Was the Goldrush still going strong in 1856 and 1857 in CA? glenda rgwalch@canby.com > >

For ships from East to West Coast via Isthmus, see http://www.pt5dome.com/PassHome.html New York City to California via Central America 1851-56 and 1865-66 AND MARINE NEWS OF THE DAY That generous contributor says, "The information on this site is taken from microfilm copies of The New York Daily Times. Beginning with the first issue of the Times, September 18, 1851, the lists will proceed through the years. When possible, passengers will be linked to the ship they later boarded on the Pacific side of the Isthmus for the final leg of the journey to San Francisco. If you don't locate your relative(s), e-mail me for a lookup in Louis J. Rassmussen's 'San Francisco Passenger Lists,' Vols. 1, 2, and 4, and 'California Wagon Train Lists,' Vol. 1." Alexandra

Lillie. I don't have the answer to that although I would assume so. My ggg-grandfather and his brother came to CA from OH for the gold in the spring of 1855. They pursued their gold searching for additional 6 years in the area up near Placerville before moving to Woodland and continuing their profession as Lawyers. Hope this helps. -Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: lillie <rgwalch@canby.com> To: <CA-GOLDRUSH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: [GOLDRUSH] Time frame? > Was the Goldrush still going strong in 1856 and 1857 in CA? glenda rgwalch@canby.com > >