There are several different ways I can present this topic. What I would like to know, if you want examples, such as a Bill of Sale, a Location Notice, to a set of Laws that the miners approved (fairly universal from all the counties I researched) when a mining district was established. Also, if there are those who have researched mining claims in county records on the list, I would like to have your comments on your experiences and possibly collaborate or at least be able incorporate the same prior to posting to provide a comprehensive understanding of these records. After all, I can base my experience on this topic, of research in fourteen counties. Oh, we can leave it open for discussion after I post the same. Tim Purdy Susanville, CA

Tim: Trems = terms Love typos! Lewis M. Ruddick

Bob, I know that many you are anxious about mining claims. I am working on it, but it takes time to compose, because there are four different records in which they were kept and I need to double check some of the records. As I originally mentioned, researching mining claims is a true adventure. But I am promise it will have it posted soon. However, in my twenty plus years of research, I have never heard of a peanut shop and this is the only time I even seen a reference to such. I recently completed reading the Quincy Union newspaper from 1864-1868. And the only time there was a reference to a peanut shop, was just in that one article. It must be some type of slang, is all that I can think of, but for what I do not know. Tim Purdy Susanville, CA ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Sawpit Flat, Plumas County 1866 ?? > Date: Thursday, August 06, 1998 12:08 PM > > In a message Lewis writes: > > >Tim: > > > >I figured that Bob Norris had already answered this one. I checked my > >law dictionary and found nothing. Also a book of old trems and nothing > >there either. > > > >Could it mean just what it says? > > > >Lewis M. Ruddick > > > Tim - > I too looked. Most of my CA mining town stuff is earlier than 1866. But > as far as I can tell, like Carolyn and Lewis, a peanut shop is a peanut shop. > I researched pretty hard because I want you back working on our mining claims > posting:-). > Take care, > Bob Norris in Dallas. > > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > Your Support Keeps RootsWeb Free! > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > >

Tim: I figured that Bob Norris had already answered this one. I checked my law dictionary and found nothing. Also a book of old trems and nothing there either. Could it mean just what it says? Lewis M. Ruddick

In a message Lewis writes: >Tim: > >I figured that Bob Norris had already answered this one. I checked my >law dictionary and found nothing. Also a book of old trems and nothing >there either. > >Could it mean just what it says? > >Lewis M. Ruddick > Tim - I too looked. Most of my CA mining town stuff is earlier than 1866. But as far as I can tell, like Carolyn and Lewis, a peanut shop is a peanut shop. I researched pretty hard because I want you back working on our mining claims posting:-). Take care, Bob Norris in Dallas.

Howdy, I suspect "forty-niner" is generic to many folks for anyone who went to California looking for gold in the nineteenth century:-) Sure a lot of people emigrated in 1849, but probably even more came later. As a follow up to Council Bluffs/Kanesville in 1850-1852, let's now, just for fund, jump ahead for one posting to 1860 - even though maybe it's a marginal goldRUSH era date - for ME the rush probably runs from 1849 to 1852(or so:-). Thanks to Barbara<[email protected]>, a past/present list/lists member, I have been reading the unpublished diary of Mrs. Mary C. FISH entitled "'Across the Plaines' in 1860," from a copy prepared by Col. R.D. FISH, one of Mrs. Fish's descendants. If Barbara reads this, I invite her comments/clarifications. I thought you folks might be interested in a description, as Mrs. Mary's wagon train passed Council Bluffs & Omaha, two overland emigrant jumping-off places - bearing in mind it's about 11 years after the initial goldrush. Also, I felt it time that I post a LADY diarist:-))) As best I can tell, Mrs.Mary and her wagon train, are traveling through Iowa in May, 1860, when we join her:: "Thursday May 17th(1860). We have traved 27 miles today over a very hilly country. The country is very sparsely timbered & the improvements are of the poorest description. The houses are built of logs & covered with sod and usually but a few acres enclosed with a miserable fence. ......[18th] We have traveled 15 miles today & have camped on Mosquito Creek two miles from Council Bluffs. The improvements along the road had been the same as yesterday, more wretched if posible. The land bordering the Missouri River in a variety of curiously shaped hills many of them rising together in conical shaped hills. They can hardly be styled mountains.... ....May 28th. We broke up our encampment this morning having remained in camp for the preceding ten days waiting for Mr. ALVORD to be able to travel[thrown from wagon-broke collar bone]. We passed Council Bluffs on our way to the ferry. It is not a very beautiful or picturesque place, being built in a hollow beween two hills. I did not see any very handsome buildings in the place. The town is three miles from the Missouri River & the business transacted in the place would not be very extensive if it were not for the emigration which passes enroute for California & Pikes Peak(?). " We crossed the Missouri about noon although the wind was blowing rather strongly at the time. The waters of the Missouri are perfectly turbid resembling a mud puddle more than running water. The river is constantly washing away its banks which renders the water anything but transparent. After crossing the river it commenced raining & the wind blew for a moment a perfect hurricane. When waiting for the storm to abate I saw several Indians, one of them offered Mr, CARTER a squaw in exchange for his pony[:-)]. Mr C____ not having any good conveyance for such property concluded not to make the investment much to the disappointment of the sable trader.We camped half a mile west of Omaha on a small creek. "Omaha is better situated as regards commercial purposes than Council Bluffs, being built on the banks of the Missouri, whereas the latter town is three miles from the river. The State House is built on a high elevation nearly hafl a mile west of Omaha & can be seen from the hills of Iowa. We were agreeably surprised by meeting Mr. BURROWS & his daughter Miss Carrie & also Mr. TENNY, all of Davenport.... "....Wednesday.May 30th. We left Omaha at noon today after having remained in camp at this place since Monday. The weather for the two preceding days has been very disagreeable, it having rained almost constantly. We received an addition to our company today of serval familes from Dubuque, Iowa...." NOTE: With your approval, we might look in on Mrs. Mary C. FISH later in her wagon trip - she has a pretty cute writing personality:-))) Let me see if I can find another emigrant gateway or two, Bob Norris in Dallas <Bnorris in Dallas>

Hi Tim, I wonder if the Peanut Shop was just what it implied. I believe the full message you sent also mentioned Hurdy Gurdys. When I think of a hurdy gurdy I also picture the little monkeys along with them. Perhaps peanuts were a favorite treat for both the folks and street entertainers (monkeys ?). Also, saloons served peanuts and as you mention this was a "lively town with three saloons". Perhaps the Peanut Shop was common to the times as the Soda Fountain (don't hear that term anymore either) was to mine. Just a thought. Carolyn TIM I PURDY wrote: > > The question remains? What is a peanut shop? > > ---------- > > From: E_or_P_Rowell <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Sawpit Flat, Plumas County 1866 ?? > > Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 2:11 PM > > > > Dear Tim: > > What an interesting question! I looked through the > > indexes of my 'historical' books, and none had a > > peanut shop listed. One hardship is that so many > > of my early history books are not indexed, so I > > didn't check them. Maybe Ruth's encyclopedia has > > the answer for you! > > Good luck, PJ > > ListMom - Rootsweb Sponsor > > > > > > TIM I PURDY wrote: > > > > > > Quincy Union, Quincy, Plumas County, California 14 July 1866 3;2 > > > > > > Sawpit Plat. Times are lively at this time. Three saloons, one public > > > house and two peanut shops <snipped...> > > > > > > Okay, can someone explain to me a peanut shop? This is the first time > I > > > have come across this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tim Purdy > > > Susanville, CA 96130 > > > [email protected]

Dan wrote: > > Goldrush books in the book collector shop out here, $45 and they are big > ones, there are 3 left, they are full of full page maps and stuff, Hi Dan, Sounds interesting, especially the maps. Do these books pertain to the CA rush ? What is the name of the book(s) and author(s). Are there three copies of the same book or different ones all priced at $45.00? I'm always interested in CA history books. Thanks for any leads. Carolyn CA history booklover/buyer!

Hello! We're attempting to confirm the lineage of my great, great, great grandfather Daniel Dearborn Page ("Goldrush Banker"). He was senior proprietor of the "Page, Bacon and Company" banking house in San Francisco, Sacramento, and St. Louis (1849-1855). Family tradition holds that Daniel D. Page was descended from Robert and Lucy Page who immigrated from Ormsby, England to Hampton, New Hampshire (circa 1637). We have been unable to verify this information. The following facts about Daniel Dearborn Page are certain: -- Father: Benjamin Page (b. 24 Jun 1761; d. 3 Nov 1838) -- Mother: Elizabeth Hobbs (m. 1788) -- Born: 5 March 1790 at Parsonfield, Maine -- Married: Deborah Nash Young (b. 7 Apr 1779; d. 19 Jan 1864) from Scituate, MA (She is a descendant of Mayflower Pilgrim Peregrin White) -- Children: 1) Francis Wyman Page (b. Nov 1820; d. 18 Sep 1883); 2) Julia Ann Page (b. 9 Aug 1826) wife of Henry Douglas Bacon Any information would be appreciated. Much Thanks, David Winslow Page

Thanks for reposting, Tim. Sure hope somebody can find the right answer for "us." (you mostly!) PatriciaJ <[email protected]> TIM I PURDY wrote: > > The question remains? What is a peanut shop? > > ---------- > > From: E_or_P_Rowell <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Sawpit Flat, Plumas County 1866 ?? > > Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 2:11 PM > > > > Dear Tim: > > What an interesting question! I looked through the > > indexes of my 'historical' books, and none had a > > peanut shop listed. One hardship is that so many > > of my early history books are not indexed, so I > > didn't check them. Maybe Ruth's encyclopedia has > > the answer for you! > > Good luck, PJ > > ListMom - Rootsweb Sponsor > > > > > > TIM I PURDY wrote: > > > > > > Quincy Union, Quincy, Plumas County, California 14 July 1866 3;2 > > > > > > Sawpit Plat. Times are lively at this time. Three saloons, one public > > > house and two peanut shops <snipped...> > > > > > > Okay, can someone explain to me a peanut shop? This is the first time > I > > > have come across this. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Tim Purdy > > > Susanville, CA 96130 > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > > > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > > > There is a web page devoted to holding queries for the > > > "Most Wanted of our Lost in California Ancestors" for > > > members of this mailing list. Visit: > > > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8861/goldrush98.htm> > > > Short entries generally get the most attention. > > > > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > > PLEASE, NO GEDCOM files and NO ATTACHED FILES of any sort > > to this list. Attachments can do weird things to rootsweb.com > > equipment and to lister's equpment! > > > > > > > > > > > >

Goldrush books in the book collector shop out here, $45 and they are big ones, there are 3 left, they are full of full page maps and stuff, just offering the thought, I would buy one but dont have a use for it .Any one interested can e-mail me ! Dan

The question remains? What is a peanut shop? ---------- > From: E_or_P_Rowell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Sawpit Flat, Plumas County 1866 ?? > Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 2:11 PM > > Dear Tim: > What an interesting question! I looked through the > indexes of my 'historical' books, and none had a > peanut shop listed. One hardship is that so many > of my early history books are not indexed, so I > didn't check them. Maybe Ruth's encyclopedia has > the answer for you! > Good luck, PJ > ListMom - Rootsweb Sponsor > > > TIM I PURDY wrote: > > > > Quincy Union, Quincy, Plumas County, California 14 July 1866 3;2 > > > > Sawpit Plat. Times are lively at this time. Three saloons, one public > > house and two peanut shops <snipped...> > > > > Okay, can someone explain to me a peanut shop? This is the first time I > > have come across this. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tim Purdy > > Susanville, CA 96130 > > [email protected] > > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > > There is a web page devoted to holding queries for the > > "Most Wanted of our Lost in California Ancestors" for > > members of this mailing list. Visit: > > <http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/8861/goldrush98.htm> > > Short entries generally get the most attention. > > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > PLEASE, NO GEDCOM files and NO ATTACHED FILES of any sort > to this list. Attachments can do weird things to rootsweb.com > equipment and to lister's equpment! > > > > > >

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Howdy, To continue with "jumping-off -places" of our overland emigrants, let's move up the Missouri River from the Independence/St.Jo area to Iowa. Above the intersection of the Platte and a few miles east of the Missouri River, tucked away in the Iowa bluffs lays Kanesville. The Mormons founded the town in 1846. First named Miller's Hollow, it was renamed for a Colonel Thomas KANE - a national political figure. Later, in 1853( I think), it was formally named Council Bluffs, even though many had called it that for years. Editor Robert Manley in "The Overland Diary of Edgar Reynolds 1852" states: "In 1849 George JEWETT wrote in his diary that Kanesville was 'situated 3 miles from the Missouri in a deep hollow at the bluff. Scrubby town of some 80 or 100 log cabins containing 4 or 5 stores doing at this time a good trade.'" On May 14th, 1850, Diarist Byron N. McKINSTRY(whose diary book listmember Cindy/LadyBug just snailed me) writes,"I went to Kanesville today to get our supplies. They are full of business buying and selling. You can scarcely get through the streets for the crowd(This book's annotator, Bruce L. McKinstry, states that Kanesville occupied what is now downtown Council Bluffs. And that a downtown Council Bluffs hotel, in 1975 at least, had a mural based on the layout of the town's original settlement.) Diarist Lucy Ruthledge COOKE in her "Crossing the plains in 1852, writes on May 2, 1852: "Well, there are not nearly so many teams camped around[Kanesville] as I expected to find. But they say more than half were here are now gone out, but fresh ones are coming all the time, giving the town an appearance of a country fair. This Kanesville is a poor little mean place{:-)))] Returning to editor Manley: "Thomas TURNBULL arrived in Kanesville on May 10, 1852, just a few days after Edgar Reynolds and... observed that Kanesville consisted of small log houses 'Shingled and covered with mud.' Although the town was not impressive, the streets were filled with people. 'Such a rush of waggons & Horses & Cattle & Mules' he had never seen 'in the old country.'". Another in 1852, not unlike diarist Lucy Cooke, cynically wrote,"Went down to the City of Kanesville and a great place it is, not worth anything except it be for making money out of the emigrants." On May 13, 1852, "The Frontier Guardian & Iowa Sentinel"( Kanesville/Council Bluffs?) published this article: "EMIGRATION "Our town is literally crowded with emigrants from all parts of the Globe, who are wending their way to California, Oregon and Utah. "There has[sic] many hundreds crossed the Missouri River, on their way already, and are crossing continually at the different ferries. Our Ferries are supplied with good boats, and the boats well manned, and they are prepared to cross any number of teams that may come her to make their outfit. "Our merchants are also well supplied with Groceries, Provisions, and Dry Goods, suitable for the trip, all of which are sold at low prices[:-)] "Come one, come all, and we can accommodate you in any way to suit you. There is still enough in store for you. There are several thousands of strangers in and about our town; all peaceable and quiet." NOTE: Yesterday, I posted a query about the "general registry" of overland emigrants maintained by Kanesville/Council Bluffs newspaper,"The Frontier Guardian & Iowa Sentinel" starting either in 1850 or 1852. Later yesterday, Listmember Jimbo Smith wrote that among the references used by Rasmussen in his Wagon Train Book: was "Frontier Guardian (Kanesville, IA) - 26 refs." Oh, well, I figured as much. But at least now we're sure:-) Yep, I reversed the order of my promised postings - now on to 1860, Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

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Hi List, Can anyone help me find Dr. Dick Chamberlain of California State University (campus not known) who wrote a paper / article / book on the Cornish role in hardrock mining in Grass Valley? I read of this man and his work in some documentation from the Cornish gathering at Ely last year. Thanks in advance, Dorothy, Victoria, BC, Canada

I was pretty excited to happen on an anouncement today regarding two noted California Historians and authors who will be speaking on the California Gold Rush at The American Association for State and Local History (AASLH) and California Council for the Promotion of History (CCPH) at their joint annual meeting in Sacramento 9-12 September 1998. I realize this is a little late and some of you may already be aware. I highly recommend Hollidays _The World Rushed In_ pub. 1981, and I am currently reading Starrs _Americans and the California Dream 1850-1915, pub 1973. Both are wonderful accounts of the gold rush era in California. Here is the blurb about the upcoming meeting: The annual meeting theme, "It's A Living: The Business of History," has provided a stimulus for program sessions and workshops that will excite, educate, and entertain. Program sessions have been developed to speak to the needs of the small, mid-size and large history organizations. The sessions will be highlighted by our keynote speaker, Dr. William Ferris, the recently appointed chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities. He will provide his insights on NEH and its future service to the field. And, noted historians, Kevin Starr and J.S. Holliday, will speak on the California Gold Rush that is being celebrated this year as part of California's Sesquicentennial. These are just three of the nationally recognized individuals that will address attendees. The program sessions and workshops cover a wide range of topics such as collaborations, exhibitions evaluations, historic houses, technology, administrative issues, research, and fundraising. Also, special events and tours have been planned to introduce meeting attendees to the richness and beauty of California while exploring its intricate history. For more information about the annual meeting, see the AASLH home page on the web,http://www.aaslh.org/ or contact the AASLH office, 530 Church Street, Suite 600, Nashville, Tennessee 37219, 615-255-2971, fax: 615-255-2979.

To mark the 150th anniversary of the discovery of gold in 1948 and the gold rush of 1849 SF Chronicle reporter Carl Nolte and photographer Brant Ward are traveling the Gold Rush trail from St. Joseph MO to California. Reports will appear Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. If you aren't a Chronicle subscriber, you can check out today's articles at www.sfgate.com/news/special/pages/1998/08/goldtrail/ which includes entries from a journal by a D. JAGGER and an article on a man in Highland KS who 40 years ago bull dozed wagon ruts that were from the Oregon Trail so he could plant corn! There are also pictures and illustrations. Should be an interesting series. Colleen Norby

At 10:47 PM 8/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, > >I have one of those "unverified" family traditions that a Charles MOULTON >was the father of my ancestress Clara Moulton b. September 1843 in Licking >Co., OH. Charles was suppossedly married to Lydia SHERMAN, but disappeared >in the Gold Rush of 1849. Like all other traditions, this one seems to >have no hard evidence, as of yet. I am not able to prove that "Charles" is >his real name. I have been unable to locate the daughter and suppossed >mother in the 1850 Census of Licking Co., OH. or in Indiana, where the >daughter ended up. > >Does anyone have access to the 1850 Census of California that can give me a >run down on any possible MOULTON listings? > > Hi - sorry to say I don't have access to that Census but I lived in Tehama County for many years. MOULTON is a very well known name there. I believe you will also find a number of them in Shasta County as well - or in the Manton area which is partially in Tehama and partially in Shasta County. Hope this helps. Jeanne K

Hi , there is a reference to E N Moulton in A Memorial and Biographical History of the Counties of Merced, Stanislaus, Calaveras, Tuolumne and Mariposa, California pub 1892 You can access the index at this site, and then for $2.00 you can obtain a copy of the entry. http://www.compuology.com/cagenweb/cencal2.htm#m Also the 1850 Census for Mariposa County is on-line. In 1850 Mariposa covered one fifth of the state so you are covering quite a bit of ground with a search of that census. http://www.compuology.com/cagenweb/1851census.htm Best of luck, Carolyn [email protected] wrote: > > Hello, > > I have one of those "unverified" family traditions that a Charles MOULTON > was the father of my ancestress Clara Moulton b. September 1843 in Licking > Co., OH. Charles was suppossedly married to Lydia SHERMAN, but disappeared > in the Gold Rush of 1849. Like all other traditions, this one seems to > have no hard evidence, as of yet. I am not able to prove that "Charles" is > his real name. I have been unable to locate the daughter and suppossed > mother in the 1850 Census of Licking Co., OH. or in Indiana, where the > daughter ended up. > > Does anyone have access to the 1850 Census of California that can give me a > run down on any possible MOULTON listings? > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: .