Howdy, Our conclusion: As they continue, incidents along the trail slow the emigrant train. A wheel lets out an ear-splitting screech that can be heard most a mile away. Its wail continues until grease is applied to a neglected, smoking axle. Shortly thereafter a wagon breaks down; a forge is brought up and repairs made. Up ahead is a boggy passage requiring doubling. And five to ten extra pair of oxen are used to pull each wagon through - taking up an extra hour or so to affect passage. Because the many wheels and hooves have ruined a stream crossing, a new one must be found and the banks cut down. Someone gets sick; the party halts, and the stricken either treated or they hopefully wait for passing emigrants with a doctor. Wagons stand in a stream while dry wheels are soaked to keep the iron tires from slipping off. Late in the day, facing the sun, tired travelers decide it is time to make camp for the night. Beside a stream or spring, the wagons come to rest, and the long line breaks into groups. The traveling forge is set out, and as the blacksmith repairs the equipment and replaces the lost shoes of the draft animals, the hammer's ring against the anvil sounds a merry note - a friendly sense of community life. Pack animals are relieved of their burdens; unharnessed horses and mules roll on the fresh, cool grass - soothing their itching backs. Men tinker with their wagons and harness; draft animals are checked for harness sores and scalds - treatment is applied. Playing children run about, exploring their new campsite and looking for adventure. Camp equipment is unloaded; tents unfolded; wood cut; fires started; and coffee is ground in a mill or crushed in a bag between two stones. Soon the tantalizing odor of food cooking calls the hungry men from their duties - making repairs, feeding the stock and circling the wagons - to the numerous camp fires. They join their families and mess-mates with enormous appetites that make every meal a feast. The separate campfires vary in opulence. The less pretenious, particularly those without women, make out with a frying pan, sheet iron kettle, coffee pot, tin cup, and a butcher knife for each. When the food is cooked, they sit around making jokes, and with greasy hands devour savory viands. Others boast more adequate culinary, more civilized manners and methods for preparing and enjoying their food. But each and everyone realize the necessity to eat all the food required by their rugged outdoor life. After dinner, the butter churned by the lurching and jolting of wagons since morning is removed, worked, washed, salted and added to the fortunates' larder. The culinary equipment is cleaned and made ready for an early breakfast. As night comes, campfires gleam along the trail darkness and through the woods or plains as far as the eye can see. The emigrants sit around blazing logs, exchange gossip, recount the day's events, speculate on what's happening at home, and contemplate on what tomorrow will bring. Problems of general concern are discussed and decisions made. On the still night air, the sound of voices, argument, banter, laughter, singing, fiddling, and dancers' hilarity waft from the remote groups. A song started in one camp is taken up in another until the entire encampment rings with music. Swains and maidens, thrown together by this new relationship, discover mutual interst and attractions - from which romance flowers long before reaching California. Some write letters by firelight; hoping they will be carried by eastbound travelers; and mailed to their friends and kin back home. The flames subside, and a hush falls on the groups and the tired travelers steal away. Moving shadows on tent walls and wagon covers reveal sleepy emigrants seeking beds by candlelight. The chorus of crickets and frogs, the notes of the owl and whipperwill, the coyote's distant cry, and the other night sounds, accenuate their feeling of isolation in the wilderness. But they sleep secure as the guard patrols the encampment. Even their deep slumber is undisturbed by the noise of the nearby draft animals. As the gray and pink dawn touches the eastern sky, the mules bray a noisy reville demanding their release to crop their morning meal from the dewy grass. Breakfast is pepared; cows milked; wagon wheels soaked overnight in the nearby stream are recovered and bolted; axles are greased; tar buckets recovered and hung under wagons; tail boards used the evening before as a dance floor are returned to their place; draft animals are harnessed; pack animals are rounded up and loaded. Another day has begun and they are off again.(Compiled/borrowed from Grant Foreman's "Marcy & the Gold Seekers", Kimball Webster's T"he Goldseekers of '49", Josiah Gregg's "Commerce of the Prairie", and the journals/diaries contained therein.). Have a nice day, Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

Howdy GoldRushListers, This may be a summer re-run:-)))? My freaky, leaky archives show that I first posted this on 6/30/97 - before GoldRush List. But I think that's wrong - way too early. So, if you have already seen this, sorry. Anyway, in thinking of a neat Labor Day posting, the 4th of July is the only trail holiday that I recall -maybe the others escape me. As a substitute, here is one of my favorite postings, Twenty-Four Hours on the Emigrant Trail.- a 2 parter. Not only did I enjoy these accounts, but I learned a lot.. Sorry, if my edits muddle a mite, but I think you'll figure it out:-)) Here we go: A day's beginning on the travel was always filled with mystery, adventure and excitement that never palled. Preparing for the day's march was filled with activity and confusion. "Catching up" as the yoking and hitching oxen was called, was particularly boisterous. When everything was ready, the order "Catch Up! Catch Up!" sounded from the captain's tent. The cry was repeated throughout the scattered groups in the encampment. Often accompanying, were the gleeful yells from the teamsters who had a friendly rivalry to be the soonest ready, and the first to cry" All's Set.". An uproarious bustle followed: hallooing of men in pursuit of animals;wrathful drivers hurling expletives and picturesque profanity on the unruly brutes; the crash of the ox-goad, the resounding"Whoa - Haws", the oxen leaping, plunging, and running about to avoid the yoke, and the loose stock bellowing - all added to the tumult and confusion. Add the clatter of bells, the rattle of harness, chains and yokes, the "Gee- Up", "Gee-Haw", and "Who-Haws", the incessant crack of whips - like pistol shots from every direction, and you have the bedlam that accompanied breaking camp and getting on the road. If they had pack animals, the animation and bedlam only increased - primarily because most of the mules were wild and unbroken. One mule-wise goldseeker said that it took as many men to pack a mule as could stand around it. He voluntered that they were "obliged to choke many of them before they could get the pack-saddle upon their backs. They would kick, bite, and strike with their fore-feet, making it dangerous to go about them." He noted that several of his company were so badly injured while working with them that they couldn't assist in packing. Finally from a teamster is heard "All's Set". Then "All's Set" is heard from every quarter. Immediately the captain yells "Stretch Out"; and the "Heps!" of drivers, the cracking whips, the trampling of feet, the creaking wheels, and the groan and rumble of the wagons created a new confusion. With the call from headquarters of "Fall In", the wagons string out along the road - and the company is again on the go. As the elephantine procession slowly passes, a driver - and sometimes his wife - could be seen peering from a white oval of a covered wagon, with perhaps smaller faces peering over their shoulders. The driver, with two or three lines in hand, directed the horses in front. Following was another wagon and team, another,and many others - until the scene changed with the appearance of three, four or five pair of oxen plodding along - with the driver, "bull-whacker" walking behind and occasionally popping a long whip over their backs. Behind, rumbled and rattled a heavy wagon with its cargo of camping equipment and hopeful emigrants, and their flour, bacon, beans, sugar, coffee, whiskey, cooking utensils - many soon to be thrown away to lighten the load. And on the wagons came. Finally, almost as comic relief, came four or six mules hauling similar wagons, with the "muleteer" astride the lead mule to keep his animals on the trail. Emigrants walked when they tired of riding, as it was easy to keep up with the slow-moving teams, and there was perchance a need to urge a cow tied behind a wagon - when she rebelled; to watch for a tire that threatens to roll off ; or to drive a wedge under or strike the felly {iron rim?] occasionally. Men and boys with shouldered guns wandered off. And were seen in the distance paralleling the caravan, bagging prairie chicken, quail or deer - to gladden the evening camp. Sometimes, mounted and afoot, herdsmen [cowboys :-)?] drove beef cattle with whooping and yelling to keep their charges from wandering off after greener grasses. Men and women on horseback moved freely between the wagons or passed up and down the line, exchanging greetings and gossip with their friends in the wagons. Sometimes they galloped ahead to escape the clouds of choking dust and loitered at some shady nook beside a stream or spring. Some even rode with the captain to select a place for the evening's encampment. And then the inevitable family pet, the dog, who made side excursions after deer, rabbit or any wild thing that he thought challenged him. But as the day grew older, he tired and was content to walk along in the shade under the wagons, as they lurched over rock, root, and depression. Ah, here comes in single file a train of pack horses or mules - almost hidden with their huge loads of equipment and goods. The caravan halts while a council is held to consider a rule infraction by one of the party. A stop is made for a noon meal. And the oxen are released from their yokes. FOLKS: What's good for the oxen is good for you too :-) TO BE CONTINUED. Part 2 finale in a little bit:-). Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

Continuing with futher "easy pickins": Frank ANDERSON, a young man mining on Goodyear Bar, took a stroll up the Yuba River on September 14, 1849, and went as far as the forks where Downieville was afterwards built. He found the gold so plentiful that he could separate it from the sand washing it in his hands. It was probably as rich a placer as was ever found in the State. The next day he and three others panned out thirty pounds of gold in three hours, amounting to over $6000. A company of miners called the Jerseymen took out thirty pounds a day for forty days and would have had a ton of gold, if the flood had not driven them out of the river bed. That the ground upon which the town was built was good placer diggings goes without saying. A number of miners out of work in September, 1859, took a contract to dig out a large cellar under Givin's corner on Main and Commercial Streets, Downieville, for $250 and the dirt they took out. It took them twenty days to do the digging and they made about $2 a day apiece from the job, but the dirt was a rich paying proposition. They washed over an ounce a day to the man and made about as much out of the cellar dirt as the lot and its building were considered worth. In Mokelumne Hill on a Sunday morning in November, 1858, after a heavy rain storm, a lady on her way to church, picked up a nugget weighing about four ounces. It was found near the church door. Actuated by a religious impulse she dropped it into the contribution plate, which caused the minister to rise to the occasion and remark that it was not sinful to look for gold on the Lord's Day, provided what was found was given to the service of the Lord. He also reminded his congregation that after a heavy rainstorm nuggets like mushrooms, were more plentiful than at any other time. In January, 1859, a miner out of curiosity, prospected the dirt on Montgomery Street in the town of Oroville and found it showing thirty cents to a pan. This is the principal street in the town and an excitement followed with the locating of claims and preparations to work them that threatened to tear the street out by its roots. At Placerville, in 1851, a man named Pile had a blacksmith shop with a small space of ground in the rear on the bank of Hangtown Creek. His little daughter, with a wash basin, amused herself after school hours washing dirt from the bank and inside of two months had accumulated over two pounds of gold dust worth over $400. Chickens were persistent gatherers of small nuggets in these mining towns and their gizzards were regularly searched by the cooks who prepared them for the oven!!! At Diamond Springs in 1856 one was killed for a Sunday dinner whose gizzard panned out $12.80. The "Pickers" was a generic name applied, as early as 1850, to a number of men who developed into a class too lazy to work a placer; who loafed around the mining camps, a sort of tinhorn sporting men, until a heavy rainstorm came along. Then, with a pan and sheath knife they searched the crevices and rocks the rushing streams, pouring down the hillsides in and about these placer mining towns washed clean, picking out the nuggets, little and big, to be found there. One Sunday in November, 1851, a gold buyer in Mokelumne Hill purchased over $500 worth of gold dust from these "Pickers." In February, 1852, a "Picker" in Sonora found in two days one nugget weighing five and one-half, one, four and one-half and three weighing one-half pounds each and received over $2400 for his easy labor. One day in November, 1852, the "Pickers" in Sonora found in the gulleys of that town a three and one-half pound nugget and two others that were one-half pound in weight. At Columbia on the same day a "Picker" found an eight-pound nugget. In January, 1852, one found a two and one-half pound nugget on Broadway, Columbia, and in November, 1854, a "Picker" found in a street of Sonora a quartz boulder weighing seventeen pounds that contained eight pounds of gold, worth $1700. As late as March, 1857, a nugget weighing one and one-half pounds was found by a lady in Sonora in the street in front of her home after a heavy rainfall.

This post is long, so I will send in two parts. Unlike most stories of the hard work and efforts of the miners here are some tibits relating to some "easy pickins". The information for this post is from the Autobiography of Charles Peters (whose real name was Carlo Pedro Deogo Laudier de Andriado), born 1825 on the Island of Fiol, Portugal. Peters first visited California in 1846 as a merchant seaman,returning three years later to seek gold at Columbia, Jackson Creek, and Mokelumne Hill. The autobiography of Charles Peters (n.d., ca. 1915) is the old man's brief memoir of his life through the 1850s, followed by a series of "Good Luck" stories, miscellaneous tales of the mining camps, a few of which seem to be credited to Peters although most are the work of another author, drawn from many sources. To read the full text of his adventures see it at California the Way I Saw It: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/cbhtml/cbhome.html ====================================== The towns of Sonora, Columbia, Mokelumne Hill, Auburn, Placerville, Nevada City, Downieville, Oroville , Shasta, Yreka and many others of lesser note, were built upon and surrounded by rich placers. They were not laid out and built according to any definite plan. Like Topsy, they "just growed." Starting from the pioneer trading store, the streets followed the trails made by the miners coming to trade. During the '50s these towns were frequently swept by fires and in washing the ashes and cinders to recover coins and jewelry left in the flames, the owners of the town lots often found they had pay dirt on their premises. Sonora was a town most prolific of such events. It is told that a man leading a mule attached to a cart up the main street one morning, after a rain in the '50s, stooped to remove a stone out of the way and found he had hold of a nugget weighing thirty-five pounds and worth $7500. In June, 1853, after a fire, a number of men were removing a pile of rocks from a lot on the main street of Sonora, when one of them picked up a nugget weighing three and a half pounds and worth $700. A man removing the debris from his lot, also on Main Street, picked up a five and a half pound nugget worth $1200, and a Mexican, washing the ashes from his lot on Washington Street, to find coins left in the fire, found a six-pound nugget worth $1300. A man named RUDOLFSON, on a lot near the center of the town, picked up a lump of quartz and gold which he sold for $450. In October, 1859, behind Gorham and Company's store on Washington Street, a pound and a half nugget was dug out near the back door. On a Sunday afternoon in January, '56, a Mexican, after a heavy shower, found a small quartz boulder in an alley off the main street in Sonora that showed a speck of gold. In a hurry for money he sold it to General George S. EVANS for $25. It yielded $378. A miner named KELLY washed out his lot at the north end of Main Street, Sonora, in 1859, and found lumps weighing seven and a quarter, three and several from one-half to two and one-half pounds in weight. On February 8, 1857, a heavy rainstorm prevailed which caused Sonora's Creek to raise six feet, which was high water mark then. A citizen standing at the rear door of Wells Fargo Company's office watching the flood, looked down at an eddy near the bottom of the door steps and saw the glitter of gold. The dirt had been washed away from around a six-pound nugget and he was over $1200 richer for loitering around that place. The town of Placerville was almost totally destroyed by fire July 7, 1856. One of those to lose his house and personal effects was a man named L. A. NORTON. He lost a sum of money consisting of gold and silver coins of various denominations; also some jewelry and to recover these from the ashes and cinders, he decided to sluice the ground. He obtained a head of water for the purpose from Hangtown Creek and began operations. He not only found, with this method, all the valuables he had lost in the fire, but that the ground was full of nuggets. He gathered from the washing of the dirt and the bed rock crevices he scraped, enough gold to not only rebuild on his property, but to erect three other houses. Probably the youngest prospector and smallest in size to make a good luck find was little Sammy TIMMONS, who in March, 1858, was four years old and living in Placerville. His mother sent him out to play in the back yard and child-like, in imitation of his grown up seniors, he let his imagination play he was a miner. When called in by his mother, he came lugging a quartz boulder almost too heavy for him to toddle with, which he had uncovered in his diminutive mining operations. It contained nearly $200 worth of gold. see part 2

This looks to be a very interesting article, too, Tim! Glad your ISP has worked out the problems... so your series can continue. Thank you, Patricia <[email protected]> ListMom TIM I PURDY wrote: > > C.L. Joclyn's memoirs were published in a book called Mostly Alkali. It > has been his experiences in the 1870s while in the military. I have copy > of a portion of the book, about moving the troops from Reno, Nevada to Fort > Bidwell, California, which they walked the entire trip of some 250 miles. > I found quite interesting, and hope others do as well. > > Chapter XII 1872-1873 > Jocelyn's Company commander was Captain Thomas S. Dunn, who held the > brevet trank of lieutenant colonel, having been twice cited for her > meritorious services during the Civil War. Colonel Dunn was now absent > from his company, having committed some indisrection which was under > investigation. This left Jocelyn in command of Company D and as he was not > only devoted to Colonel Dunn, but also admired the Dunn family--which > included two pleasant and intelligent daughters--he regretted the > separation, aside from any question of extra work entailed by being the > only officer with the company. > Company D was ordered to Camp Bidwell in the extreme northeastern corner > of California, among the more or less friendly Paiute Indians. It entailed > a march on foot of about 250 miles from the town Reno, which has sprung up > overnight with the coming of the first railroad to the coast. > If only from the fact that Nevada adopted the sagebrush as is "state > flower" one already acquires some idea of the country through which > Jocelyn's company had to march and why the alkali plans--sagebrush and > alkali going hand in hand--made it a necessity to space marches from > halfway drinkable water to more halfway drinkable water. Water, grass for > pack or wagon animals and sagebrush for fuel were what determined the > camping spots for each night, as was the case all through the West for many > years to come. > A glance at any map of northwestern Nevada even today shows hardly a > village along Jocelyn's line of march. Sheepshead, which in 1872 was > called "Sheep Head" due to the fact that the large skull and horns of a > mountain sheep were reposing near some drinkable water, is the only spot on > modern maps which corresponds to the names of "Itineraries of Routes" as > published by the Military Division of the Pacific in those old days. There > was a garrison called Fort Sage (aptlyenough) forty-six miles north of > Reno. Other picturesque names along the route were Buffalo Meadow, Rotten > Egg, Fish Spring and Tuledad. Along the route Jocelyn discovered some > short cuts which later reduced the distance about fourteen miles and which > were accepted by headquarters at San Francisco. > On the night of the first day five soldiers deserted, evidently not > relishing the seventeen day march to the out-of-the-way post of Camp > Bidwell. Jocelyn sent a guard back to Reno, but the deserters were never > caught. He thought they had probably headed for the then booming mining > town of Virginia City, twenty miles south of Reno. One of the soldiers was > a recruit for a company of the First Calvary, already stationed at Bidwell. > Shortly after reaching Bidwell, Jocelyn wrote home, "I had a rather stupid > march up from Reno, where I last wrote you, as my only companion was a > scientific bore in the shape of a medical officer. His tongue wagged > incessantly and only stopped at night when he failed to get an answer to > his question: "Are you listening?" > > ===== > > Of note, there are news reports at the moment of the Burning Man Festival > on the Black Rock Desert, with some 10,000 participants this weekend. > Jocelyn's journey was only a short distance to the west of that location. > > Part II is Joceyln's actually diary account of the trip. > > Tim Purdy > Susanville, CA > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > Rootsweb.com no longer accepts HTML coding or attachments > on E-Mail files. Your cooperation will help save Rootsweb.com > equipment to serve you another day!

Wunerful, wunerful...! What a nice holiday treat. Thanks, Bob! Patricia<[email protected]> ListMom

C.L. Joclyn's memoirs were published in a book called Mostly Alkali. It has been his experiences in the 1870s while in the military. I have copy of a portion of the book, about moving the troops from Reno, Nevada to Fort Bidwell, California, which they walked the entire trip of some 250 miles. I found quite interesting, and hope others do as well. Chapter XII 1872-1873 Jocelyn's Company commander was Captain Thomas S. Dunn, who held the brevet trank of lieutenant colonel, having been twice cited for her meritorious services during the Civil War. Colonel Dunn was now absent from his company, having committed some indisrection which was under investigation. This left Jocelyn in command of Company D and as he was not only devoted to Colonel Dunn, but also admired the Dunn family--which included two pleasant and intelligent daughters--he regretted the separation, aside from any question of extra work entailed by being the only officer with the company. Company D was ordered to Camp Bidwell in the extreme northeastern corner of California, among the more or less friendly Paiute Indians. It entailed a march on foot of about 250 miles from the town Reno, which has sprung up overnight with the coming of the first railroad to the coast. If only from the fact that Nevada adopted the sagebrush as is "state flower" one already acquires some idea of the country through which Jocelyn's company had to march and why the alkali plans--sagebrush and alkali going hand in hand--made it a necessity to space marches from halfway drinkable water to more halfway drinkable water. Water, grass for pack or wagon animals and sagebrush for fuel were what determined the camping spots for each night, as was the case all through the West for many years to come. A glance at any map of northwestern Nevada even today shows hardly a village along Jocelyn's line of march. Sheepshead, which in 1872 was called "Sheep Head" due to the fact that the large skull and horns of a mountain sheep were reposing near some drinkable water, is the only spot on modern maps which corresponds to the names of "Itineraries of Routes" as published by the Military Division of the Pacific in those old days. There was a garrison called Fort Sage (aptlyenough) forty-six miles north of Reno. Other picturesque names along the route were Buffalo Meadow, Rotten Egg, Fish Spring and Tuledad. Along the route Jocelyn discovered some short cuts which later reduced the distance about fourteen miles and which were accepted by headquarters at San Francisco. On the night of the first day five soldiers deserted, evidently not relishing the seventeen day march to the out-of-the-way post of Camp Bidwell. Jocelyn sent a guard back to Reno, but the deserters were never caught. He thought they had probably headed for the then booming mining town of Virginia City, twenty miles south of Reno. One of the soldiers was a recruit for a company of the First Calvary, already stationed at Bidwell. Shortly after reaching Bidwell, Jocelyn wrote home, "I had a rather stupid march up from Reno, where I last wrote you, as my only companion was a scientific bore in the shape of a medical officer. His tongue wagged incessantly and only stopped at night when he failed to get an answer to his question: "Are you listening?" ===== Of note, there are news reports at the moment of the Burning Man Festival on the Black Rock Desert, with some 10,000 participants this weekend. Jocelyn's journey was only a short distance to the west of that location. Part II is Joceyln's actually diary account of the trip. Tim Purdy Susanville, CA

For clarification of our Goldrush Listers I looked up the definition of shay as I wasn't certain if my dear pescatorial friend, Bob Norris, hadn't fallen off the deep end and was in need of the angels of mercy. I found the following: Shay = A chaise. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved. Chaise = Any of various light, open carriages, often with a collapsible hood, especially a two-wheeled carriage drawn by one horse. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved. Not to be confused with .. Sleigh = A light vehicle mounted on runners and having one or more seats, usually drawn by a horse over snow or ice. The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved. Sans the input from Bob, this list would, at times, be very quiet. Enjoy, Lewis M. Ruddick

oops, you are RIGHT! I had just read the one on Wallace MURRAY and got my wires crossed. Thanks so much for catching my error. sigh... guess its that old CRS syndrome kicking in... <G> Thanks You wrote: > >Hi Sandra- It does make a good story! > >I am confused again. The EMAIL you forwarded to GOLDRUSH about the whale >appears to be from someone looking for Wallace MURRAY! > From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Wallace MURRAY in CA >Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:15:03 EDT >Sandra, > I'm sorry, I didn't give you much to work with, did I? > I don't have an exact date because I can't find the @#$%%$#@ >MURRAYs!! >My grgrandfather was born in Ohio in 1840. Wallace was his brother, so >I >assume he would have been born right around then. R.B. (grgrndf) was in >the >Civil War and when it ended, he left OH and came to Iowa. So, assuming >again, >there must not have been family there anymore, so I imagine Wallace went >to CA >1850-1865? Maybe to look for gold?? > The family lore said "Uncle Wall went to California and got eaten >by a >whale." > Now you know as much as I about him and much, much more about CA >and >genealogy, so I'll leave the where to look to you. Is that O.k.? > Hope you have a very nice weekend! >Janis > > > > >Sandra Harris wrote: >> >> Carolyn, >> Thanks for the suggestions. It turns out it was Redwood City - and now we >> have the additional information he was eaten by a whale. Should be something >> somewhere on that, don't you think? >> Sandra >> >> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 07:45:22 -0700 >> From: Carolyn Feroben <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Milton IRISH in Redwood CA 1860 and later? >> >> Hi Sandra, >> Here are some possibilities taken from the old Post Office locator: >> Redwood , San Francisco >> Redwood City , San Mateo >> Redwood Estates , Santa Clara >> Redwood Park , Santa Cruz >> Redwood Valley , Mendocino >> The one that survives as a major city is Redwood City-San Mateo. >> >> I didn't find anything in the way of mining camps with the name Redwood >> in Gudde_California Gold Camps_. Guide_ California Place Names_ lists >> Redwood City, in San Mateo. >> >> This is a a vague one. >> Good luck, Carolyn >> ===================================== >> >> > From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Milton Irish - Redwood, Ca- 1860 >> > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:26 -0600 >> > >> > The Irish Family from the Center, Texas area is looking for decendants >> > of a >> > Milton Irish. >> > >> > Milton Irish served in the Battle for Texas Independance and was one of >> > the >> > few who escaped from the Battle of Goliad in 1836. He had a wife named >> > Emily in Center, Texas. He has 2 land grants (later sold) given to him >> > for service in the Texas Revolution. >> > >> > He moved to California to make his fortune in the gold rush. He is >> > listed on the 1860 census from Redwood, CA. >> > >> > The family is searching for his gravestone and any decendants from a >> > life in >> > California. >> > >> > Royce Jackson >

Carolyn, Thanks for the suggestions. It turns out it was Redwood City - and now we have the additional information he was eaten by a whale. Should be something somewhere on that, don't you think? Sandra Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 07:45:22 -0700 From: Carolyn Feroben <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CA-GOLDRUSH-L] Milton IRISH in Redwood CA 1860 and later? Hi Sandra, Here are some possibilities taken from the old Post Office locator: Redwood , San Francisco Redwood City , San Mateo Redwood Estates , Santa Clara Redwood Park , Santa Cruz Redwood Valley , Mendocino The one that survives as a major city is Redwood City-San Mateo. I didn't find anything in the way of mining camps with the name Redwood in Gudde_California Gold Camps_. Guide_ California Place Names_ lists Redwood City, in San Mateo. This is a a vague one. Good luck, Carolyn ===================================== > From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Milton Irish - Redwood, Ca- 1860 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:26 -0600 > > The Irish Family from the Center, Texas area is looking for decendants > of a > Milton Irish. > > Milton Irish served in the Battle for Texas Independance and was one of > the > few who escaped from the Battle of Goliad in 1836. He had a wife named > Emily in Center, Texas. He has 2 land grants (later sold) given to him > for service in the Texas Revolution. > > He moved to California to make his fortune in the gold rush. He is > listed on the 1860 census from Redwood, CA. > > The family is searching for his gravestone and any decendants from a > life in > California. > > Royce Jackson >

Boy, eaten by a whale - that might show up somewhere in the paper - but where? which paper? Let me try to see if I can find something on him in the census to establish where he was - I can check the 1852 thru 1880 on him. If he was an older brother he would possible have been 16-18 in that time period - did teens usually take off to CA without the rest of the family? Of course, he could be much older maybe in his early 20's - so that could be a possibility to explore. Sandra From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Wallace MURRAY in CA Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 00:15:03 EDT Sandra, I'm sorry, I didn't give you much to work with, did I? I don't have an exact date because I can't find the @#$%%$#@ MURRAYs!! My grgrandfather was born in Ohio in 1840. Wallace was his brother, so I assume he would have been born right around then. R.B. (grgrndf) was in the Civil War and when it ended, he left OH and came to Iowa. So, assuming again, there must not have been family there anymore, so I imagine Wallace went to CA 1850-1865? Maybe to look for gold?? The family lore said "Uncle Wall went to California and got eaten by a whale." Now you know as much as I about him and much, much more about CA and genealogy, so I'll leave the where to look to you. Is that O.k.? Hope you have a very nice weekend! Janis

I picked this up on Alt.genealogy - any other suggestions for the IRISH search? Is there a death index that might cover this time period? What about cemetery records? I didn't even explore the possiblity that he might show in the 1870 census as Irish MILTON with the names switched around. Sandra From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Milton IRISH in Redwood CA 1860 and later? Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 22:15:26 -0600 Sandra: Thanks for your interest in our Milton Irish search. We have tons of information on Milton Irish, up until the point in which he left Texas (1852) and went to California to seek his fortune. I have seen a copy of an 1860 census in which Milton Irish is listed and the document was from Redwood City, California. We have search the 1870 census, but there is not a mention of Milton Irish on it. We presume that he probably died during those years, as he was born 7 May, 1812. I will check with my sister-in-law next week-end about her having checked with the genealogical society in Redwood City. She is doing most of the record searching and she asked me to try the internet. Your help and suggestions are most helpful. Thank you very much. Like I said, we have a ton of Irish family history, but the later years of Milton is unknown. A grave stone would be most valuable. Royce -----Original Message----- From: Sandra Harris <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 8:33 PM Subject: Milton IRISH in Redwood CA 1860 and later? >Hi - I'd like to help but wonder where (what county) Redwood is in? >Have you checked the 1870 census for him and his family? Have you tried >to contact the genealogical society in the county you found him in >1860? > >Sandra in Sacramento CA > >You wrote: >Newsgroups: alt.genealogy >From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> >Subject: Milton Irish - Redwood, Ca- 1860 >Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:26 -0600 > >The Irish Family from the Center, Texas area is looking for decendants >of a >Milton Irish. > >Milton Irish served in the Battle for Texas Independance and was one of >the >few who escaped from the Battle of Goliad in 1836. He had a wife named >Emily in Center, Texas. He has 2 land grants (later sold) given to him >for >service in the Texas Revolution. > >He moved to California to make his fortune in the gold rush. He is >listed on >the 1860 census from Redwood, CA. > >The family is searching for his gravestone and any decendants from a >life in >California. > >Royce Jackson > >

The Poet Laureate of California is based on tradition that a state should designate a poet laureate to express adequately in poetry the wit, wisdom and beauty appropriate for honoring individuals, events special occasions and the natural heritage and culture of the state. Charles B. Garrigus has been Poet Laureate of California since March 23, 1966. Move over, Charles- I elect ole JR jr.!!! Thanks Bob, Carolyn

Folks, Our conclusion: : One Hoss Shay Part 2 - "Do! I tell you, I rather guess She was a wonder, and nothing less! Colts grew horses, beards turned gray, Deacon and deaconess dropped away, Children and grandchildren - where were they? But there stood the stout old one hoss shay As fresh as on Lisbon - earthquake - day! EIGHTEEN HUNDRED; it came and found The Deacon's Masterpiece strong and sound. Eighteen hundred increased by ten; ' Hahnsum kerridge' they called it then. Eighteen hundred and twenty came; Running as usual; much the same. Thirty and forty at last arrive, And then come fifty, and FIFTY-FIVE. Little of all we value here Wakes on the morn of its hundredth year Without both feeling and looking queer. In fact, there's nothing that keeps its youth So far as I know, but a tree and truth. (This is a moral that runs at large; Take it - You're welcome - No extra charge.) FIRST OF NOVEMBER - the Earthquake day, There are traces of age in the one hoss shay - A general flavor of mild decay, But nothing local, as one may say There couldn't be, for the Deacon's art Had made it so like in every part That there wasn't a chance for one to start. For the wheels were just as strong as the thills, And the floor was just as strong as the sills, And the panels just as strong as the floor, And the whippletree neither less nor more, and the back-crossbar as strong as the fore, And the spring and axle and hub encore, And yet, as a whole, it is past a doubt In another hour it will be worn out! First of November, 'Fifty-five! This morning the parson takes a drive. Now, small boys, get out of the way! Here comes the wonderful one-hoss-shay, Drawn by a rat-tailed ewe-necked bay. 'Huddup!' said the parson - Off went they. The parson was working his Sunday's text, Had got to fifthly, and stopped perplexed At what the - Moses - was coming next. All at once the horse stood still, Close by the meet'n'-house on the hill First a shiver, and then a thrill, Then something decidely like a spill, And the parson was sitting upon a rock, At half-past nine by the meet'n'-house clock, Just the hour of the Earthquake shock! What do you think the person found, When he got up and stared around? The poor old chaise in a heap or mound, As if it had been to the mill and ground! You see, of course, if you're not a dunce, How it went to pieces all at once, All at once, and nothing first, Just as bubbles do when they burst, End of the wonderful one-hoss-shay, Logic is logic. That's all I say." Thank you - now back to my mules, mines, wagons & ships:-) Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

Howdy GoldRushers and Listmom, I realize this is OFF-TOPIC - stand ready to take my punishment: scoulding, spankin', bed without dinner, or even banishment. And I won't/can't tell you why:-) .But I want to share, even though it has no goldrush connection, my most favorite poem, "The One Hoss Shay" or "The Deacon's Lament"- not 100% sure of its formal name. But Oliver Wendell Holmes - father of US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.- was the author( published by Hougton, Mifflin & Co., Boston/NY,1892). My fascination with ole Wonderful One Hoss dates back to my teenage years. Recently I messed up a couple of times getting its text: first from my triva expert, KAREN <[email protected]>- lost the URL.. Later RUTHIE<[email protected]>, not trusting my leaky archives, snailed me a copy. My thanks to them both. NOW, I risk life, limb & your wrath:-)) - and post: " THE DEACON'S MASTERPIECE Have you heard of the wonderful one-hoss-shay, That was built in such a logical way It ran a hundred years to a day, And then, of a sudden, it-ah, but stay, I'll tell you what happened without delay, Scaring the parson into fits, Frightening people out of their wits, Have you ever heard of that, I say? Seventeen hundred and fifty-five, "Georgius Secundus" was then alive, - Snuffy old drone from the German hive: That was the year when Lisbon-town Saw the earth open and gulp her down, And Braddocks's army was done so brown, Left without a scalp to its crown. It was on the terrible earthquake-day That the Deacon finished the one-hoss shay. Now in building of chaises, I tell you what, There is always somewhere a weakest spot,.- In hub, tire, felloe, in spring or thill, In panel, or crossbar, or floor, or sill. In screw, bolt, thoroughbrace - lurking still, Find it somewhere you must and will, Above or below, or within or without, And that's the reason, beyond a doubt, A chaise breaks down, but doesn't wear out. But the Deacon swore(as Deacons do), With an "I dew vum," or an "I tell yeou," He would build one shay to beat the taown 'n' the kxounry 'n' all the kentry raoun', It should be so built that it couldn' break down! 'Fur,' said the Deacon, 't's mighty plain Thut the weakes' place mus' stan' the strain; 'n' the way t' fix it, ux I maintain, Is only jest T' make that place uz stron uz the rest." "So the Deacon inquired of the village folk Where he could find the strongest oak, That couldn't be split nor bent nor broke, That was for spokes and floor and sills; He sent for lancewood to make the thrills; The crossbars were ash, from the straightest trees, The panels of whitewood, that cuts like cheese, But lasts like iron for things like these; The hubs of logs from the "Settler's ellum," Last of its timber - they couldn't sell 'em, Never an axe had seen their chips, And the wedges flew from between their lips Their blunt ends frizzled like celery-tips; Step and prop-iron, bolt and screw, Spring, tire, axle, and linchpin too, Steel of the finest, bright and blue; Thoroughbrace bison-skin, thick and wide; Boot, top, dasher, from tough old hide Found in the pit when the tanner died. That was the way he 'put her through.' 'There!' said the Deacon, 'naow she'll dew.' TO BE CONTINUED - Part !! - in just a minute You can always delete Part II:-)) Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

Hi Sandra, Here are some possibilities taken from the old Post Office locator: Redwood , San Francisco Redwood City , San Mateo Redwood Estates , Santa Clara Redwood Park , Santa Cruz Redwood Valley , Mendocino The one that survives as a major city is Redwood City-San Mateo. I didn't find anything in the way of mining camps with the name Redwood in Gudde_California Gold Camps_. Gudde_ California Place Names_ lists Redwood City, in San Mateo. This is a a vague one. Good luck, Carolyn Sandra Harris wrote: > > Hi - I'd like to help but wonder where (what county) Redwood is in? > Have you checked the 1870 census for him and his family? Have you tried > to contact the genealogical society in the county you found him in > 1860? > > Sandra in Sacramento CA > > You wrote: > Newsgroups: alt.genealogy > From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> > Subject: Milton Irish - Redwood, Ca- 1860 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:26 -0600 > > The Irish Family from the Center, Texas area is looking for decendants > of a > Milton Irish. > > Milton Irish served in the Battle for Texas Independance and was one of > the > few who escaped from the Battle of Goliad in 1836. He had a wife named > Emily in Center, Texas. He has 2 land grants (later sold) given to him > for > service in the Texas Revolution. > > He moved to California to make his fortune in the gold rush. He is > listed on > the 1860 census from Redwood, CA. > > The family is searching for his gravestone and any decendants from a > life in > California. > > Royce Jackson > > ==== CA-GOLDRUSH Mailing List ==== > Automatic Administrative Reminder: > ROOTSWEB is archiving the messages on CA-GOLDRUSH-L, and a search scr een is > is available on their web site. The address to do an archive search for this > list (and most other rootsweb lists) can be found at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Good luck!

Howdy, To those still tuned; you have perseverance:-)) Here's the finale: "Chino Record Book List Part 5 - Final ROBURN, J.C. (Navarro Co,TX) C 12 ROBSON - C 43 ROGERS, Jacob - C 28 ROGERS, James(Chihuahua) C 42 ROSS, Wm.Stymets(New York) C 13 ROUSAVILL, A.S.(Shrevesport,La) C 6 ROWLAND, W. A.. - C 12 ROWLAND, William Lee(Union Co.,Ark) C 12 RUBEDOUE, Louis - C 36 RUCKER, Dr.Tom (LA) C 42 RUPELL (TX) C 8 SAMSON, J.L.(Dallas,TX) C 8 SAMSON, Na(Sevier Co.,Ark) C 22 SAMUELS, A.H.(Va.) C 13 SAMUELS, Wm. F. (Va.) C 13 SANFORD, W.F.B. - C 44 SARVIS, Henry(Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 SAVEARINGEN, A.E.(Fredericksburg,TX) C 30 SAYEN, Capt. Hope - C 55 SCOTT, G.W. (Harris Co.TX) C 21 SCOTT, R.E.(Mo.or Miss) C 30 SCOTT, Thos. - C 22 SEABURY, Edgar(Albany) C 7 SEARCY, A.W. (Jackson,Tenn.) C 27 SEARCY, James - C 31 SEARCY, W.B. - C 31 SEELIGSON, O.(Galveston,TX) C 33 SENSABOY, Jacob(Walker Co.,TX) C 17 SHACKLEFORD, Montgomery B.(Grayson CTX) C31 SH[A[O]FFER, John(Tuscarawas Co,Ohio) C 14 SHAW, Wm. F.(Steuben,Maine) C 5 SHIELBY, Geo.C. - C 27 SHIELD, James(Webb Co.,TX) C 10 SHIRMAN,Eli(Arks) C 2 SHMALTAZ, Geo. R.(NYC) C 24 SHORES, John (TX) C 17 SHOWWALTERS (Augusta Co..Va) C 13 SHULEMEYER, William(Cayette Co.TX) C 19 SIMMONS, Jos. J. - C 26 SIMS, D.(St.Clair Co.,Mo) C 42 SIMS, J.W.(Clarkesville, TX) C 24 SKILLE, Daniel(Augusta Co.,Va) C13 SKINNER (Western,TX?) C11 SKINNER, H.C. - C 32 SLACK, R.N. (KY) C 23 SMITH, Gotfried(Fayette, TX) C 19 SMITH, H. - C 53 SMITH, Jach A.(Texas Rangers) C 2 SMITH, James H.J.[H.P.}(TX) C 11,C 12 SMITH, John L. (Lake Providence,Ga.) C 24 SMITH, R.B. - C 46 SMITH, R.D. (Mario Co., Ala) C 9 SMITH, Wm. (Marshall Co,Miss) C 9 SPEARS, John (Clarksville,Ark.) C19 STANIFUR, S.P. (Austin,TX) C 16 STANLEY (Kentucky) C 9 STANLEY, Jno. C.(Georgia) C9 STEDDUM(STIDDUM),F.E(Sabine Co.,TX) C 6 STEDDUM,J.M.(Sabine Co.,TX) C 6 STEELE, H.(Sumpter,Ala) C 10 STEVENSON, J.C.(Little Rock, Ark) C 32 STEWART, A. -C 16 STEWART, Reuben - C 31 STEWART, Thomas(Johnson Cty, Ark) C 44 STODDER, William C4 STONE, John C 31 STONE, Samuel (Austin,TX) C 13 STONE, Thomas(Austin,TX) C 13 STONE, Wm. E. -C 21 STUART, I.M.(Jackson Co,Miss) C 5 STUART, James T.(Hempstead Co.Ark) C 18 STUART, Samuel(Hempstead Co,Ark) C18 STUART, W.M.(Hempstead Co.Ark) C 18 STURGES, Geo. A. (San Antonio,TX) C 32 SULLIVAN, R.F.(Washington,Ark.) C I8,C 20 SUYKENS, Th. (Belgique) - C 22 SUMNER, Joseph(NC) C 4 SWANN, David - C 23 SWEET, D.(NY) C15 SWEET, John L.(NYC) C 9 TALL, Frances W. - C 19 TATOM, A.C. (Johnson Cty.,Ark.) C 44 TATOM, G.W.(Johnson Cty, Ark) - C 44 TEATS, Jacob(Ohio?) C 15, C 17 TERRY, D.S. (Houston,TX) C 8 TERRY, E.S.(St.Clair Co.Mo) C 42 THING, Samuel (Mo.) C 31 THOMAS, George(Arkansaew Nation) C 9 THOMPSON, Isaac(NY) C 33 THORM (Western,TX?) C 11 THORNE, J.W.(Brooklyn,NY) C 7 TISDALE,D.S.(Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 TIXSON, A.S.(Navaro Ct[TX]) C 7 TOURANCE, A.J. C 47 TOWNSEND, E.H.(Hannibal, Mo.) C28 TOWNSEND, Fred R - .C 7 TROKOLAWSKI, Joseph - C 48 TRUE, H.P.(Harrodsburg,KY) C 5 TUCKER, Dr.(Jefferson Co.,Ark) C 9 TUNIS, J.B. (Dardinelle, Ark.) C 19 TUTTLE,S.M.(Miss. or Mo) C 30 TWADDELL, Alfred(NY) C 17 ULRICH, G.A., M.D. - C 43 UNGER, A.F.(Buffalo, NY) C 9 VANDEGRIFT, Leonard - C 25 VANDEVARDEN, Thomas(San Antonio,TX) C 24 VAN INGEN, J.S.(Albany,NY) C 7 VEEDER, C.H.& family - C 37 VINSONHAM, L.D. - C 46 VOGST,Chas(Fayette Co,TX) C 19 WAITE(Penna.) C 11 WALLACE, C.M.(Richmond) C 8 WALLACE, I.(Holmes Co,Miss) C 5 WASHINGTON, Col.Henry - C 48 WATERS, James - C 54 WATERS. Jams - C 29 WATSON, A.A.(Kenahwa Co,Va) C 5 WATSON, J.L.(NY) C 33 WEBB, A.H. - C 26 WEBB, Wm.C.H. (Little Rock,Ark.) - C26 WEBSTER, C.(Mo.) C 42 WEIR, R.L.(Bragoria,TX) C 7 WESTBROOK, Matthew(Woodberry Co,OH) C 43 WESTBROOK, Solomon(Morrow Co.,OH?) - C 43 WHEELER, Jno. O.(Florida) C 7 WHITMORA, L.A. (Athens Co.,Ohio) C 23 WILDER, G.H.(Green Co.,Ala) C 10 WIGGINS, Thomas - C 56 WILLIAMS,Allen(NavarroCty) C 7 WILLIAMS, Aug.(Mo.) C 5 WILLIAMS, Isaac C 38, C 40, C 57 WILLIAMS, Julian - C 37 WILLIAMS, Maria J.Luego - C 57 WILLIAMS, R.L. (Washington,Ark) C 30 WILLIAMS, W. (Washington,Ark) C 30 WILSON (TX) C 8 WILSON, A.D.(Ft.Gibson/CherkNat.) C 22 WILSON, A.M.(Ft.Gibson/CherkNat.) C 22 WILSON, Dr.G.W.(Ft.Gibson/CherkNat.) C 22 WILSON, R.E. - C 44 WINSTON,W.C. -C16 WITTON, John(Tuscarawas Co,Ohio) C 14 WOODWORTH, Nolan - C 49 WOODS, A. (Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 WORKMAN,B.F.(Chihuahua,MX) C 17 WRIGHT(Jackson,Miss) C 5 WRIGHT, Geo. S. - C 49 WRIGHT, T.N. - C 22 WYCKOFF, W.W. - C 13 VORBA, Remando - C 54 YOUNG, C.Benjamin - C 43 YOUNG, T.W.T. (NY) C 33 ___________, Willis (Austin, TX) C 13 [Copyright 1998 - J. Robert Norris, Rudecinda LoBuglio, and Rita Avila]. Hope you find a relative. If you do, PLEASE let us know - may have some more info for you.. Thanks for reading, have a nice day:-) Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>

Howdy, Late lookers, you're really late:-)). In the last two days, I posted a Chino Record List Preview and List Parts 1, 2 & 3. This is Part 4. The final, Part 5, comes across later today.. Chino Record Book Part 4 - MACKLIN, Thos. (Tacksan Co. -Westport) C 40 MAGEE, James - C 54 MAGINGOE, Mirtin(Augusta Co.,Va) C 13 MAGRUDER, Floyd(Ark) C 31 MAGRUDER, J. Bankhead(USA) C 45 MANN, J.J. - C 46 MARPLE, Perry B.(Va. & Mo.) C 29 MARR, I.F.A. (Pickins Co, Ala.) C 13 MARSH, Wm.(Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 MARTELL, F.(La Grange,TX) C 15 MASON, Henry R.(Miss. or Mo.) C 30 MASSEY, Wm. B. (Memphis,Tenn.) C 32 MASSIE, Y.H.(Mo.) - C 5 MATINES, William M.(Mo.-form.KY) C 31 MATTHEWS, James C 4 MATTHEWS, J.L. (Catahooule) C 22 MATHEWS, Thomas - C 46 MAXWELL, J.W.(Kaskaskia,IL )C 6 MAY, Thomas (La.) C 22 McCAHON, Neil(Richland, Miss ) C 5 McCLURE, Elijan(Fayette Co,TX) C 9 McCORMICK, Dr. - C 34 McCUNE, W.(NY& E.TX) - C 23 McDUFFIE, James(Key West) C 4 McKEE, Jno. Henry(Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 McKEON, John(Memphis,Tenn.) C 32 McKOWN, J.D. C 7 McMASTER, T.(Sabine Co,TX) C 6 MCNEAL, A.(TX) C 17 MERCHED, Capt. - C 44 ME[U]RCHISON,Capt(LaGrange,Faye.TX) C 11,C 18 MERCHISON, John (Fayette Co.) C 12 MERIDETH. Chs.(Hannibal,Mo.) C 28 MERIDETH, Dr. H.(Hannibal,Mo.) C 28 MITCHEL, Sam(Ga or Ge) C 42 MICHELL(MICHIEL), Wm. (TX) C 21 MILLARD, Wesley(Mobile, Ala) C 9 MILLARD, Wm.(Mobile, Ala.) C13 MILLER, John(Richmond) C 8 MILLER, Capt. C 3 MILUS, FA. (Western,TX) C 11 MINTA, Harrison(Mo.) C 31 MITCHELL, C. (Clarksville,Ark) C 27, C29 MITCHELL(MITCHAEL),E. (Vernin,Ala ) C 10 MITCHELL, Jas.(Varnon,Ala) C 10 MITCHELL, James W. - C 31 MOCK(MOCH), David Wm.(TX) C 17 MONROE, Josiah S. (NYC) C 24 MONTENEGRO, Jose Ignaclo G(MEX?) C 41 MOORE, Benj.(Noxubee Co,Miss) C 10 MOORE, Wm. (NY) C 8 MORAN,M.N.(Noxubie Co,Miss) C 10 MORGAN, O.(Florida) C 7 MORIS, A.W. (Walker Co.,TX) C 17 MORRISON, I.L.(Sabine Co.,TX) C 6 MULINS, Wm. - C 47 MUNDELL, Henry(La Grange,TX) C 15 MUNROE, Wm.I .(Jefferson,Ark) C 9 MURDOCH, Wm.(Cincinnati,Ohio) C 2 MURPHY, John (NY) C 7 MURPHY, Henry (Yell Co., Ark.) C 21 MURRAY, Wm.(TX) C 17 MYERS, F.(Rapides Parish,La) C 8 NASH, Wm. H.C. (Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 NEILL,Jas A.(Noxubee Co,Miss) C 10 NEILL, Wm.(Noxubee Co,Miss) C 10 NEVINS, R.W.(NY) - C 16 NEWMAN, Thomas(Buftalo,NY) C 24 NEWTON, Horatio (Tenn.) C 42 NIMMO, H.M. - C 16 NORMENT, William S.(Columbia,S.C.) C 30 NORRIS, Joseph(Tuscarawas Co,Ohio) C 14 NUTTALL, George - C 19 OAKLEY, O.B.(N.Y.) C 7 OBRION, E.(San Antonio,TX) C 15 OGBURN, Dr. J.C. (TX) C 14 OGDEN, F.(NY) C 4 OLDHAM, Martin E.(Miss. or Mo.) C 30 OLEHAM, S.W.(Bonam,TX?) C 16 OVERTON, C.C. - C 51 OWEN, Wm. R.(Henry Co.,Mo) C 42,C 43 OXARATE, Gaston(?) - C 49 PALMER, Dana N. - C 55 PALMER, Isom(Walker Co,TX) C 17 PARKER, A.T. - C 15 PARTON, Dr.I.R.(Montgomery Co,Mo. ) C 5 PATTERSON, C.(Fayette Co,KY) C 8 PAXTON, E.H. (Dallas,TX) C 8 PEARCE, James (Little Rock, Ark.) C 24 PEEL, J.H. - C 44 PELHAM, J.E. - C 31 PENROSE, James W.(Little Rock,Ark) C 24 PETERS, Chira -C 31 PETTUS, R.W. (Sevier,Ark?) C 25 PHILFER, Silas(La.) C 9 PHILIPS, R.L. (Washington,Ark) C 30 PIKE, Barnabas(NYC) C 4 PIXLEY, Augur(Portchester, N.Y.) C 13 PLEASANTS, M. C. (TX) C 17 POLK, Wm. A.(Eastern Penna) C 14 POLLARD, W.J. (Miss) C 14 POOL, G.W. C 19 POOL, George W.(Franklin Co.,Ark) C 24 POOL, M.P. (Fort Smith, Ark) C 19 POOR, Geo.A.(Pa. C 5 PORTER, A(Holmes Co,Miss) C 5 POPE, A.(Holmes Co. Miss) C 5 POWELL, Abraham C 4 PREWITT, I.L.(Clarksville, Ark) C 27 PRUITT, Green(Sumpter Co, Ala) C 10 PRUITT, Robt.(Sumpter Co, Ala) C 10 RADER, David(Jeff.,Cass Co.,TX) C 16 RAINBOTT, Peter A. (Fannin Co.,TX) C 44 RANDALLs,Jas(Noxubee Co,Miss) C 10 RAY, J.Ward(Mo) C 42 RAYMOND, Warren(Webb Co.,TX) C 10 RECTOR, Elliridge T.(Guadaloupe Co.TX) C 24 REED, Alexander H. (NY) C 14 REED, Henry X. - C 53 RHODES, P.P.(Rockingham Co.,Va) C 13 RHODES, R. (Rockingham Co.,Va) C 13 RICHARDSON, E.M. (Fort Smith,Ark) C 19 RIDLEY, Thos.E.(Tenn) C 3 RING, Joseph P. - C 15 ROBERTS, Capt. Bonlin - C 29 ROBERTS, F.B. (TX) C 8 ROBIDOUX, L. - C 4, C 43 ROBINSON, Jacb. C. - C 31 ROBINSON,R.(Hannibal, Mo.) C 28 Part 5 will be coming in a minute Bob Norris

Hi - I'd like to help but wonder where (what county) Redwood is in? Have you checked the 1870 census for him and his family? Have you tried to contact the genealogical society in the county you found him in 1860? Sandra in Sacramento CA You wrote: Newsgroups: alt.genealogy From: "Royce Jackson" <[email protected]> Subject: Milton Irish - Redwood, Ca- 1860 Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:32:26 -0600 The Irish Family from the Center, Texas area is looking for decendants of a Milton Irish. Milton Irish served in the Battle for Texas Independance and was one of the few who escaped from the Battle of Goliad in 1836. He had a wife named Emily in Center, Texas. He has 2 land grants (later sold) given to him for service in the Texas Revolution. He moved to California to make his fortune in the gold rush. He is listed on the 1860 census from Redwood, CA. The family is searching for his gravestone and any decendants from a life in California. Royce Jackson

Howdy, Here we go:: Chino Record Book List Part 3 - HARTMAN, Isaac - C 49 HAUGHTON, Edward W.(Little Rock,Ark) C 30 HAY, C.W.(Galliopolis,Ohio)C 5 HAYES,Capt&Co.(Hannibal, Mo.) C 29 HEIDER, Diedrick (Lewisburg,Ark) C 23 HENDRICKS, John W. (NYC) C 4 HEREFORD, Dr. F.A. C 44 HERSTON, Lewis C 12 HICKEY, George(Johnson Co, Ark) C 21 HIGGINS, John L.(Rockingham Co.,Va) C 13 HILL, A.C.(Milan,SullivanCo,Mo.) C 31 HILL, B.H. C 14 HILL, Jeremiah(Nashville,Tenn?) - C 41 HILL, R.H. ( Goliad,TX) C 14 HILTABIDDLE,Westley(Tuscarawas,Ohio) C 14 HITI, Gohiel I.(Rockingham Co.,Va) C 13 HITI, Gustavus (Augusta Co,Va) C 13 HOBBS, Isaac (Lanford,Me.) C 10 HOBSON (Ark) - C 8 HODKINS, E.L.(LA) C 23 HOES, Schuyler(NY) C 3 HOGE, Hon.I.M. (Washington Co,Ark) C 28 HOGON, T.N.(Houston,TX )C 6 HOIT (TX) C 8 HOLLISTER, William(San Joaquin Co.,CA) C 45 HOLMAN, Wm. T (Ark) C 8 HOLT, Wm. L. - C 45 HOOPER, James (Lewisburg,Ark) C 23 HOOPER, Thomas(Lewisburg,Ark.) C 23 HOPPER, David Jo (Green, Ala.) C 9 HOPPER, John (Green, Ala.) C 9 HORVETH, Nelson - C 53 HOTCHKISS, Tho. Sun.(Shreveport,La.) C 32 HOWELL (Little Rock,Ark) C 26 HOWEY(HOWERY), Jas.(Jefferson Co,KY) C 9 HOYT, Henry(Opelousas,La) C 7 HOYT, John P.(NY) C 3, C 5 HUBB(HUBBZ), Homer(NY) C 17 HUCHESON, Thomas - C 24 HUGHES C 27 HUGHES, Wm. C 31 HUMPHRY, D.M. C 21 HUMPHREY, J.P. C 5 HUMPHREYS, David(Hartford,Conn.) C 22 HUNTER, John(NY) C 1 HUNTER,Robt(Leon Co.TX C 7 HUTCHENSON, Jas. (NY) C 8 HUTCHINGSON, John F.(Saline Co.Ark) C 25 HYDE, John C. C 14 HYDE, Stephen (NY) C 8 INGORSOL, Daniel C 32 JACKSON, J.A. C 21 JACKSON, John W.(N.Y City) C 2 JACKSON, John W.(Vernon, Ala.) C 10 JAKE"S(Rockingham Co,Va) C 13 JAMES, H.W. - C 41 JAMES, J. -C 31 JANKER, G.A. - C 22 JENKENS, Evan - C 19 JENKINS, Jas. F.(Kemper Cty.,Miss.) C 22 JOBE, Leroy(Creek Nation,Ark) C 36 JOHNSON, Alfred(New Market,Ala.) C 32 JOHNSON, J.G. (Washington,Ark) C 30 JONES, Aug(Noxubee Co.,Miss) C 10 JONES, Edmund (NY) C 33 JONES, H.P. - C 12 JONES, James - C 26 JONES, Jno.F.N. (Hannibal,Mo.) C25, 29 JONES, John Jr.(NY) C 8 JONES, Lewis (Austin,TX) C 13 JONES, William M. C 26 JOYCE, W.N.W. (Capten, Ark) C 24 JOYNER, Johnson J. (Little Rock,Ark) C 26 KAHLKE, P.(NY) C 18 KAMY, John M.M. C 25 KANOUSE, J.A.(N.J.) C 3 KELLY, J.T. C 4 KELLY, John W. C 4 KELLY, P.S.(Ohio?) C15, C 17 KELLY, Patrick(Rockingham Co.,Va) C 13 KELLY, Samuel C 5 KELLY, Samuel (NY) C 23 KELLY, Samuel L.(Tenn.) C 1 7 KENNEDY, George(La.Co,TX) C 44 KENNARD - C 12 KERR, John C.(Arks.) C 2 KERRIKOFE, Michael(Augusta Co.,Va.) C 13 KIDD, Joshua - C 41 KINCHBECK, Francis(N.J.) C 13 KING, A.M.(TX Rangers) C 6 KING(KINK), Geo. B. (Little Rock,Ark.) C 23 KITCHINGS, Daniel(TX) C 28 KOKER, EM. (San Augustine Co.,TX) C 13 KOSSER, W.C.H.(Tuscaloosa, Ala.) C 10 KYLE, W.J. (Brazoria Co.,TX) C 5 LAIRD, James W.(Austin,TX) C 13 LAMB, William(TX?) C 28 LANE, Capt. & Party(Peres/Ceres) C 4 LANG (La.) C 9 LASSELLE, Stanilaus (Indiana )C 4 LATIMER, R.A.(Clarksville, Ark) C 19 LAUBHEIM, Sam - C 47 LAUBENHEIMER, F.(Ohio)C15, C 17 LEE, David(Cass Co.,TX) C 22 LEOVY, A.F. (New Orleans) C 33 LEWIS, Joel - C 4 LEWIS, Jos. - C 4 LICHER, J.(Key West) C 4 LITTLE, David(Sparta,White Co,Tenn) C 17 LOCKRIDGE, Wm. - C 26 LOGAN, David(Clarksville,Ark?) C 28 LOGAN, I. - C 26 LOGAN, James (Clarksville,Ark) C 28 LOGAN, Jonathan - C 26 LONG(LANG)(La-Concord Assoc) C 9 LOT, John - C 37 LOTHIAN, Napier&son(NYC) C 33 LOTT, Jas.(Ohio?) C 15, C 17 LOTT, Wm. H. (Miss) C 14 LOUDERWASSIR - C 34 LOVE, D.M. (Ala.) C 5 LOVE, R.K. (Benton Co, Ala) C 8 LOWRAN, A.J.(&Co.) - C 47 LOWRIE, F.M.(Miss. or Mo.) C 30 LOYD, Sims(Leon C.,TX) C 7 LUDWICK, Wm.(Bates Co.,Mo) C 42 LYLE, John A. - C 20 LYMAN, Henry B.(NYC) C 9, C 15 Tomorrow: Parts 4 and 5. Take care, Bob Norris in Dallas <BNorris166aol.com>