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    1. [BYERS] ??Orphanages in/near Carlisle circa 1915
    2. Ann Beattie
    3. Hello Listers, We have just learned today from Quarriers Bridge of Weir that the three BEATTIE brothers we are trying to find family for were not placed in Quarriers. Now that we have that information, we wonder whether the family lore about them being placed in "an orphanage" in Glasgow is correct. Their place of birth (Carlisle) and baptism in St. Cuthberts (Robert James b 1907; Thomas Leslie b.1909; John David born 1911) suggests that when their mother, Mary BYERS BEATTIE, died circa 1915, they may have been placed in an orphanage nearer to Carlisle. Their father David BEATTIE, a shepherd, is said to have remarried and it is also said the second wife did not want to raise the three boys. To us that suggests there may have later been a second family. We are now wondering whether the Salvation Army would have run an orphanage in/near Carlisle circa 1915? We know Thomas Leslie BEATTIE came to Canada as a home child under the auspices of the Salvation Army in 1926. He lost touch with his brothers and we know the Salvation Army helped reconnect with them in about 1950 because they talk about the help received in their letters. We know Thomas Leslie BEATTIE had an uncle William S. BYERS because he is listed as the 'nearest relative' on immigration papers. William S. BYERS address was Sparrow Rigg, Woodhouses, Carlisle. Thomas Leslie BEATTIE's last address in England before he came to Canada from Liverpool was Bousfield, also just outside Carlisle. Does anyone in the locale or anyone having done more research know of any orphanages in the Carlisle area, circa 1915-1924?? I'm going to search for a Salvation Army website to see if I can get an answer from them. The more I think about it, the more I wonder about trekking three little kids all the way to Glasgow to give them up?? If there wasn't the wherewithal to raise them, there probably wasn't enough cash to take them on such a long journey to place them. Besides I now wonder why, if the family lived on the England side of the border, they would take the children into Scotland to place them in the orphanage?? My apologies for being so long-winded. We really appreciate the kind assistance we have received so far and will be glad of any advice about how to proceed. Regards, *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Ann Neilson Beattie & David Beattie, Cochrane Alberta Canada researching BEATTIE/BYERS borders area of England/Scotland; also Ireland & Canada *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

    03/27/2000 07:43:11