This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply, I have found that John Sr. was born in Lebanon, PA. in 1740. Nancy Rockett b. 1741 in Lincoln Co. NC. but these dates and places could be wrong. With all the children I counted 64 grandchildren, plus there was one born out of wedlock to a Margert Peggy Byers Who named him Moses after his father Moses Bumgarner. Making a total of 65 grandchildren. this gets so confusing one record of this and another of that with different places and dates.But I will keep looking. Thanks again. Sharon Douglas page_14@charter.net