This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/544.2.3 Message Board Post: JOHN BYERS 1791= ISRAEL BYERS= CHESTER MANSFIELD BYERS= ALBERT LAWRENCE BYERS= JAMES LAWRENCE BYERS I AM MARK BYERS FROM MAINE AND THIS INFO IS FROM SHARON DOBRANSKI WHO PUBLISHED A BOOK IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY HEARD FROM HER. SHE IS GREAT AND DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. JOHN= ISRAEL= HENRY= KENNETH= RICHARD= ME. CHESTER AND MY G GRANDFATHER HENRY WERE BROTHERS

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/899 Message Board Post: My great Grandfather Frank Byers last heard of in Bartlesville, Ok around 1909-11. He was Born in Germany . 1886 My mother and her twin brother were the only children. May and Ray.mother and wife of Frank Byers was Maude Gertrude McCoy.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: byers Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/898 Message Board Post: any info on lewis byers will be soo appreciated. there were a father and son lewis or louis. the son was living in jefferson co ala around 1914. lipscom is where a son homer leeroy was born to lewis and bessie wesson byers..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BYERS Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/897 Message Board Post: BYERS_Ernest_W_1917-1982_.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Sunset Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 120,533 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers/Robicheau Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/896 Message Board Post: I am looking for the family of Annie Nenetta Byers of Nova Scotia Canada. I have found her in 1901 census in Yarmouth Canada married to Joseph H. Robicheau with one child Daisy May born Feb.04, 1901. The census says "Nettie" was born Dec. 25, 1879. Would anyone have her in there family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BYERS Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/895 Message Board Post: BYERS_Charley_W_1918-1980_.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Sunset Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 120,400 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BYERS Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/894 Message Board Post: WHITEHEAD_Alma_BYERS_1920-1990.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Sunset Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 120,400 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BYERS Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/893 Message Board Post: BYERS_Ida_V_1893-1973.JPG I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery - Sunset Section, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use the picture for your personal records. This is one of the 120,400 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I will send the information to your email address later.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Yes please I would love to see what you or anyone else has. I also followed a couple of Byers indian lines from OK from the early 1900's all the way back to NC during the 1700's it got kind of complicated though. I do know that the last one I had found married an indian women who could not read, right or speak english. It went from NC thru TN and the lines then went to OK. There are a bunch of Indians in OK with the last name of Byers. So many that I gave up and stoped looking. They all came from the Byers and the indian woman married in NC. That is just the Ok Byers though. I do not know about the rest. I would love to see what you have though. The research is very interesting to go through no matter what you find. The main reason I am hooked on the Bumgarner, Byers theory I suppose is because they were next door neighbors or their property connected before the line was moved. William Byers sued John Bumgarner stating that Moses Bumgarner was the father of Margaret Peggy Byers son which her parents Willliam and his wife Jane raised as their son. I also would like to go to NC. We may never find out what really happened.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: There is a marriage record in Lincoln County, NC dated 2-20-1809 for Pagy Byers and Joseph Houston. I also looked at the census records for Moses. 1840 lists his age as 50-60, 1850 lists his age as 58 in the month of September and 1860 lists his age as 69 in the month of July. None of these ages matches either birth date that we all have. I can send you a transcribed copy of the will for Joseph Houston if you like. Peggy was his second wife. She received nothing upon his death as far as I recall. Somewhere around here I have a copy of Deanna Thompson's transcription of the bastardly bond. Let me know if you would like me to send you a scanned copy of the email of this information. I probably have John Baumgarner and the Byers guy mixed up. However, I still won't buy this as the family until I can finish all the research in both TN and NC. By the way, there are a whole bunch of Baumgarner's on the Indian Rolls! I wonder where they came from? I show mutltiple deeds for Moses in Tennessee in Jackson County. I have a few transcribed copies if you would like to see them. I'm glad to see you have so much information. Thank you for sharing it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.6 Message Board Post: Last one. "Peggy" as listed in the microfilm is Margaret Peggy Byers. I will send you that info also. William Byers and John Bumgarner properties joined before the line was moved. Note: Microfilm record of Lincoln County, North Carolina Court of Pleas & Quarters, April, 1789 to April, 1796 lists the following: " The State vs. John Bumgarner, bound in the sum of fifty Pounds to keep the County Pleas of a Bastard Child Moses Bumgarner got on the body of Peggy Byers. No fine paid 27th October, 1791 - Received 25 Shillings and 2 Shillings cost." from William Byers, "The Parents of Moses Byers" Upper Cumberland Researcher, Spring 1994, pp. 9-11. I almost forgot Margaret Peggy Byers married John Watson I do not show a Houston. They were married in York Cnty on 8/16/1790. Let me know if you show something else.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.5 Message Board Post: John Bumgarner's will LINCOLN COUNTY, NC - WILLS - John Bumgarner, 5 Oct 1819 ==================================================================== USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free information on the Internet, data may be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this message remains on all copied material. These electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format for profit or for presentation by other persons or organizations. Persons or organizations desiring to use this material for purposes other than stated above must obtain the written consent of the file contributor. The submitter has given permission to the USGenWeb Archives to store the file permanently for free access. This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives by: Deanna Thomas t_deanna@hotmail.com ==================================================================== Will of John Bumgarner In the name of God Amen, I, John Bumgarner of the County of Lincoln and State of North Carolina, being of sound mind and perfect memory but being old and calling to mind the mortality of my body knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die do make ordain and establish this to be my last will and testament hereby annulling and revoking all former wills by me made, First, I recommend my soul to God who gave it and my body to the earth to be buried in a decent Christian manner at the discretion of my wife and executors and such wordily estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me with I will and bequeath and dispose of in manner and form following, Second (?) that my funeral expenses and all my just debts be paid out of my estate by my executors… Third, I will and bequeath unto my beloved wife, Nancy Bumgarner, all the household and kitchen furniture, her side saddle and two horse creatures and four cows of her choice (?). All of my stock, one beef, two breading sows, four sheep, all of her choice, and flower and corn and pork sufficient for one years provision for the family, two axes, one mattock, two ploughs, two hoes that I give and will unto her to dispose of at her decease the land and plantation where I now live during her natural life except that occupied by my son Andrew Bumgarner southeast of Fred Earwood's branch, the wagon and hinds gears and wind mill and cross cut and hand saw all of which at her decease to go to my son Andrew Bumgarner. I give unto her one Negro Woman by the name of Susanna during her natural life then to go to my daughter Michel Bumgarner. I give unto her two more Negroes, one woman by the name of Syrene and one girl by the name of Selah to dispose of at her decease. I give unto her one Negroe boy by the name of Charles during her natural life then to go to my son Moses Bumgarner. I give and bequeath unto the heirs of my son, John Bumgarner, deceast, widow's children in ..?……...before ..?.., John, Charles, Moses, Phillip, Thomas, and daughters Nancy, Elizabeth, Temperance, each of them the sum of five shillings to be paid by my executors as they respectfully become of age. I give and bequeath to my son Moses Bumgarner one mulatto boy, a slave by the name of George and after my wife's decease one Negroe boy by the name of Charles. I give and bequeath unto my son Thomas Bumgarner one Negroe girl by the name of Becky. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth Crisel, wife of Andrew Crisel, one Negroe woman by the name of Sukie. I give and bequeath unto my son Aron Bumgarner one Negroe boy by the name of Levy. I will and bequeath unto my son Absolom Bumgarner one Negroe girl by the name of Rose. I will and bequeath unto my son Melcher Bumgarner one Negroe boy by the name of Juney. I give and bequeath unto my daughter Nancy Taylor, wife of Isaac Taylor, one Negroe girl by the name of Minte. I give and bequeath unto my son Andrew Bumgarner all the lands he occupies or chooses to occupy where he now lives beyond the meadow on the said branch from my house on the southeast of which is called Fred Earwood Branch, leaving the meadow on the said branch to that part occupied by my wife and on the decease of my wife my said son Andrew Bumgarner is to have the plantation where I now live and the wagon and gears and wind mill and cross cut and hand saw the whole to him and from him to his heirs forever. I also will and bequeath unto him one Negro boy by the name of Eli during his natural life then to descend to his heirs and also one Negro girl by the name of Juney. I will and bequeath unto my daughter Michel Bumgarner one sorrel mare and her side saddle and one Negro girl by name of Holey and one other Negro girl by the name of Vina and forty acres of land joining William Bandy's and Rocketts lines to her, her heirs and assigns forever. I also will Michel Bumgarner in the line before assigned two cows and the clock. It is my will if that of any of the Negroes herein disposed of should increase before this will takes effect that such increase goes to the persons to whom the Negroes is willed. I also will and bequeath unto Elizabeth Crisel, wife of Andrew Crisel, and Negro girl by the name of Nelley by them pay one hundred dollars for the same Negro. After my decease I allow a sale to be made of all my property of every description of which I may be possessed of that is not herein willed or disposed of, paying my funeral expenses and all just debts and the legacies herein given then the residue and remainder is to be equally divided between and among all my children. I do hereby nominate, constitute and appoint my trusty friend, Gilbert Milligen to be my Executor of this my last will and testament. Signed, sealed and published by John Bumgarner as his last will and testament in the presence of us who were present at the signing and sealing of thereof this 5th day of October 1819. his John D. Abernathy John x Bumgarner Philip Young mark State of North Carolina Lincoln County July Sessions 1820 The within will was proved in open court by the Oaths of Jno. D. Abernathy & Philip Young subscribing witness thereto & admitted to Record.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.4 Message Board Post: John Bumgarner's will

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: These are several responses to request for resources. I have the entire transcipts though. I will send those to you. Title: Upper Cumberland Researcher Author: Upper Cumberland Genealogical Association, Inc. Publication: Cookeville, Tennessee Note: good Repository: Call Number: Media: Magazine Note: William Byers, "The Parents of Moses Byers," pp. 9-11, Upper Cumberland Genealogical Association, Inc., "Upper Cumberland Researcher," Cookeville, Tennessee: Vol XIX, No 1, (Spring 1994). Title: U.S. Census Text: "per family records submitted by Elizabeth Byers in 1871 for War of 1812 Widow's pension" Note: William Byers, "The Parents of Moses Byers," pp. 9-11, Upper Cumberland Genealogical Association, Inc., "Upper Cumberland Researcher," Cookeville, Tennessee: Vol XIX, No 1, (Spring 1994). Title: Upper Cumberland Researcher Author: Upper Cumberland Genealogical Association, Inc. Publication: Cookeville, Tennessee Note: good Repository: Call Number: Media: Magazine Text: "Moses' tombstone in the Alex Byers Cemetery, north of Double Springs, Putnam County" erected many years after his death Note: William Byers, "The Parents of Moses Byers," pp. 9-11, Upper Cumberland Genealogical Association, Inc., "Upper Cumberland Researcher," Cookeville, Tennessee: Vol XIX, No 1, (Spring 1994).

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I will send you the info that I found for Margret Peggy Byers. It says that her father or at least Moses Byers parents were named as William Byers. I show a middle initial as J. but he is listed as William. I will get it and send it to you. I also have some things from court documents where Elizabeth applied for Moses war pension. Anyway William Byers was the one that sued John Bumgarner for getting "Peggy" pregnant. I will send you everything I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: According to the bastardly bond in NC Margaret Byers was the daughter of John Byers. I have never seen anything suggesting otherwise and am wondering who you obtained that information from? Bastardly bonds were the counties attempt to prevent having to support illegimate children. I do not know how many of these children were indentured once there was a hearing and payment was made to the unwed mother. What I am saying is that someone needs to go through the Lincoln County records beyond that bond and see if the child was indentured. I have seen two birth dates for Moses, one in March of 1790 and the second in November of 1790. His age in census records never matches the March date. He lists his birth place as NC. In the year he was born middle Tennessee was considered the state of NC. So, was he born in NC or Tennessee? Does he really know where he was born? Some really didn't know if their parents died when they were young. Has anyone thought he may be Indian? I have heard he looks like he is in photos which were at one time circulated in TN. Three (I said two earlier and I was wrong) of his children married people of native american descent. So, should I assume early Tennessee was over run with native american's that everyone married or should I assume we may be part native american and do not know it? If we are Native American, there will be no records prior to living in the state of Tennessee. Of his children Alexander Byers married first Leitha Grimes. Leitha has Cherokee in her backround. William Jasper Byers married Marlisa Bradford whose Cherokee name is listed in his family bible. I have not been able to get a copy of this from his descendent Danette Oliver. Last but not least, Amanda Byers Kinslow's entire line appears to be native american. It is rumored her older children's families had whisperings of being native american and their half siblings of James Kinslows second marriage are tribal members today. I am not suggesting anything at this point, I am just saying that none of this has been well enough researched to prove anything. Maybe Moses Byers is that illegimate child, I am not willing to rule that out, however I will not buy it until the research is complete. I am hoping by following his children's lines out that I will gain more information as I go. Hopefully the Florence H. Byers that Osborn Byers adopted was a relative that we can trace back to the Byers family we really belong to. But I won't hold my breath looking for an easy answer, because I do not think there is one.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Proulx Connell Tennyson Lefebvre Giblin Ginnetti et al Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/892 Message Board Post: This is my genealogical random act of kindness for the year. My husband, who is a stamp collector, showed me a stamp he was offered. The stamp is on a certificate of marriage for the subject marriage. It is only the bottom of an original page, and doesn't give the actual location. I paid $5 for it, so if anyone is related and wants it, please post! Michelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I am sure you already know this probably but you had said in the prior email that Moses would have been taken and raised by someone else. William Byers and his wife were listed as his Moses Bumgarner's parents not Peggy. I thought Peggy married a man with the last name of Watson. Peggy and her husband did not raise Moses. Her parents did. Let me know if this is incorrect.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UFH.2ACEB/444.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I am aware of the Bumgarner history, however I can't buy it until all the research is complete. Bastardly children were not allowed to reside with their mothers and were usually removed from the home and placed with another family until adulthood to learn a trade. Also, Margaret Byers married a man by the name of Houston and if in fact she is the mother of Moses, then there should be a connection somewhere to be found. Her son Christopher Houston moved to Jackson County for a time before moving elsewhere. If he had any deeds, I would like to see who signed off on them as it was usually family. There are two birth dates for Moses and one is the same as the child from Lincoln County, the other is for someone else. The family bible pages for this family was written by two different people, so were the dates correct? If you add to this that the Amanda Byers Kinslow line is of Native American descent then I have a little problem with the whole thing. I'm not sure where the Native American blood is coming from completely but I suspect from the Kinslow side. Two of Moses Byers children married people of Native American descent. I find that rather interesting. I do not believe we have really answered the question of who was the real Moses Byers. I wish I could go to NC and research, I'm pretty sure the answer is there. As far as Tabitha Rosina Harris goes, her second marriage was to a Joseph Edmundson. They had a daughter named Edna born more than likely in Roseclair, Hardin County, Illinois. She was 2 months old in the 1880 census. I have not been able to find Rosina after this census, that is why I wondered where she died. Anyways, I can't wait to see your web site when you get home. I'm glad we got to touch base. Lori