This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sheila_McDermid Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/722.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for sharing that info - guess I'll just keep plugging away here on my McMurray quest! I am on some other lists but unfortunately it seems like I've hit brick walls there too. Sheila Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: walter3mcmurray Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/722.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry Sheila, but I don't think it's the same family...Margaret had several brothers and sisters... John, Alexander, Andrew, Janet, and Mary. I haven't come across any Williams, James, Gavins or Agnes. You should sign up for some of the rootsweb mailing lists...i.e. the Glasgow list, the Wigtonshire list and the McMurray list. Put your information out there and someone will be able to help you more than I could. The message boards are ok too, but not all of the people on the mailing lists are signed up to get messages from the message boards. Good Luck, Robert MacMurray Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sandrabordelon Surnames: Byers Classification: biography Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/1459/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James D. Byers was the second sheriff of Plumas county. He came from the state of Ohio, and early engaged in quartz-mining at Jamison creek, being one of the company known as the Washington or Seventy-six. He was elected, in the fall of 1855, to fill the vacancy caused by the absconding of Sheriff Sharpe, and in 1856 he was again a candidate for the office, and defeated R. C. Chambers, running on the know-nothing ticket. Byers served until the fall of 1858, when he was succeeded by R. C. Chambers, the democratic candidate. Mr. Byers made a very active and efficient officer. He has always been a dealer in cattle, and has become quite wealthy in the business. Most of the property he had acquired during his sojourn at Quincy was destroyed in the fire of 1861. He has resided in Lassen county many years, and is a rich old bachelor. SOURCE: Illustrated History of Plumas, Lassen & Sierra Counties, with California from 1513 to 1850. - Fariss and Smith, San Francisco, 1882. p 186 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: mcmurray Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/722.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello there -- I too, am trying to find info on the McMurray family. My G-G-Grandfather was William McMurray born in Glasgow/Galloway Scotland in 1832. He had a brother John, James, Thomas, Gavin, and sisters Margaret and Agnes. I do not have birthplaces, nor dates for his siblings but am hoping we are talking about the same family. Supposedly, we think, William's parents were Gavin and Jennie Morrison but I cannot find any info on either one and wonder if those names are incorrect. Do you know the names of Margaret's siblings? I look forward to hearing back from you i in hopes that you may have more info to add to my files. We are hoping to visit Scotland in May and to visit where our ancestors originated. Thank you in advance! Sheila McDermid

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/1458.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: correction on previous post John Byers 1 brother we are aware of was James who died 3/1919

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/1458.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Byers Cornagrove, Also we know that John Byers 9son of Henry & ?) had 1 brother soo far who is named Henry (Died 3/1919)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/1458/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Trying to find information on the Byers Family of Cornagrove,(Cavan)Ireland. Henry Byers and his Wife (unk name) His Son & his Wife: John Byers and Jane Coote Their Children: Henry 1873 David 1875 Martha 1877 (We think she moved to Australia) Mary Jane 1879 (We think she moved to Australia) John & James 1881 (Twins) William 1884 (my Grandfather) Sarah 1886 Looking to find: - The name of Great Great Grandpa Henry's wife's name? - Did John have any siblings? - Did Henry have any siblings? There seems to be 2 Byers Families there- any links? - The property had a main house, a barn, and a house down a lane in between the barn. Great Grandpa John lived in the house down the lane on the property. Who lived in the main house? Some more information. Henry and William (2 sons of Jane & John) kept in contact with each other when Willaim came to the US. Henry had also visited his sisters in Australia and stayed there for a few years. We had always heard that One of Williams sisters married a sea captain. We also heard that one of William & Henry's sisters was a nurse. William became a N.Y.C. Firefighter. We were just in Ireland, What a beautiful country, and the people were so warm and friendly. Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks so much Bob. This is so nice of you to share all of this information. I hope that we will be able to identify your John Byers and Conrad Byers in the DNA tests. We just need to get a lot of families to join us. The Germans are just so difficult to trace back to Germany. See our website at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Boyer/ I have all of my Boyer family from Chapter 30 of the American Boyers up on WorldConnect at: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=gwebjork Marsha Boyer Weaver is still offering to help pay for a DNA test for anyone descended from Chapter 9 or Chapter 11 of the American Boyers books. v. 2 AI Chap 9 [Johann Andreas Beyer] v. 2 AK Chap 11 [Johann Nikolaus Beyer] Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: byers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:byers-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of BOBHOP@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:21 AM To: byers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BYERS] Byers > Gwen- The Joseph I am referring to would have been born about 1735 probably in a Germanic state. He would be a brother to John (1732) and an uncle to Conrad?? Please take what I have (now) as opinion. Old opinion , as I gave up on research on Byers to go after easier targets. I will send below what I have handy and perhaps you can find hope. John Boyers born ca 1732 ! Very little is known about our immigrant ancestor John Byers. Within the family it has been written (by his great granddaughter) that "he and three brothers came to America in the early 1700s and settled in Virginia and Pennsylvania". It is further speculated that these brothers were named Conrad, Joseph and Lawrence. Family information further claims that John was a "Captain in the Revolutionary War and that he had only one son". According to Danske Danridge in "Historic Shepherdstown", "Captain John Byers was a man of athletic proportions and he was as brave as he was physicaly powerful". Danridge goes on to say that Captain John 'had died in York Co. Pennsylvania and that he had only one son." "Pennsylvania Archives" Series V, Vol. 1, page 128 and 183 mentions a John Byers who was commissioned a Captain on 27 Apr., 1758 in the 2nd Battalion of Pennsylvania. A reference in the "Virginia Magazine of History and Genealogy" Vol. 23, page 432 mentions a Captain John Byers was to "deliver a letter from Tennessee". (Neither of these may concern our John.) Several people named "John Byers" are found in York Co. Pennsylvania: One of these "John Byers" served as a Private in the Militia of Chester Co.; one left a will dated 1777 (D-21); one left a will dated 1799 (K-031) and there is an estate of a John Beyer which was administered on 7 April, 1784 (but his son John is too old to be the line of interest ); last and of interest is a York Co. record dated 25 September, 1804 mentioning an estate left by Joseph Byers of Lexington KY, uncle of John Byers, Jr. who is over 14 years old and sister Mary age 11 record (OC/I 70). John Jr.'s father John was named guardian. This latter reference deserves further research. (Some descendants think John was in the 8th Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the Pennsylvania line but there is no record to support this claim. John Boyers/Byers born 1779 son of John 1732 Several references have been found regarding John. One of the most important comes from within the family- a letter written by his granddaughter Sarah Ellen (Byers) Curry in 1914 to a niece Lucille Granger, in which dates, names etc., are mentioned. He is also mentioned several times in " Historic Shepherdstown" by Danridge and "Upon This Rock" by Hartzell. ! A leaded glass window is in the St. Peters Luthern Church in Shepherdstown dedicated in his honor (contributed by his son John). ! John and Elizabeth had four sons, one of whom died early. ! The cottage Bible records birth and death dates for John and Elizabeth. John Byers born 1810 son of John 1779 and Elizabeth John was the second son of his parents. ! John was a school teacher. After his marriage he lived first in Martinsburg, Jefferson Co., VA then in Charlestown, Jefferson Co. VA and they next moved to Hagerstown MD in 1841. ! Washington Co. MD land records mention of borrowing $756.75 from his father John and $236.41 from his uncle Joseph Byers to buy a lot, a house, furniture, dishes, tools and three dogs. This debt was to be paid back by 1853. (This John's wife Ann Margaret Weis was a cousin of Helen Keller) John Byers son of John and Ann Margaret ========================================================================== ! He was a "printer's devil" at age ten. When 13 years old he wrote and published a sheet called "Genius of the Age and the "Nutshell". As a result he was employed by Tice & Hammond Co. until age 20 at which time he headed west to Kansas City. ! John moved to Kansas City, MO and after the Civil War he became a very successful business man. See "History of Kansas City". ! John may have been born in Martinsburg, Berkeley Co. VA. ! Byers, John W., was born November 2, 1833 in Jefferson County, VA, the eldest of a family numbering 6 sons and 1 daughter, subsequently removing to Martinsburg, in Berkeley County, VA., where his education began as a pupil in a school opened by his father, who several years later changed residence, removing to Hagerstown, MD., and continued there for many years a successful teacher. !At about ten years of age he became a printer boy, and being exempted from the primary duties usually allotted to the "printer’s devil" passed immediately to the work of a compositor, and within one year attained such experience in deciphering the bad manuscript of the editor, as well as in making up forms, and correction of proofs, as to earn the soubriquet of "Big Type A." This occupation proving unfavorable to health, was exchanged, at thirteen years of age, for employment in the hardware store of Tice & Hammond, then the oldest firm in the State of Maryland. It may be worth mentioning as evidence of juvenile energy, that as a pastime for the long winter evenings of his printer’s career, he indulged in first editing and publishing, on his own account, a diminutive sheet called the "Genius of the Age", followed the ensuring winter by the "Nutshell", double the size of its predecessor, in which spicy local squibs, and points about the neighborhood, in weekly collations, attracted sufficient patronage to supply "pocket money". This precociousness attracted the attention of the firm above referred to, with whom he remained until twenty years of age, when a favorable opportunity occurred, inducing his obedience to the popular injunction - "Go West, young man." !Among the incidents of this first journey, removing him so far from the old home roof, a serious railroad wreck occurred, from which he escaped unhurt, by an exchange of coaches on the train about thirty minutes before. During 33 years since, making many journeys, he has been preserved from participating in any similar disaster. The old stage coach was then yet a necessary link between the temporary terminals of uncompleted railway, but in due time both were substituted by the luxury of a Missouri River steamer - the F.X. Aubrey - at St. Louis, MO., and several more days of comfortable travel completed this first long journey, at Wellington, La Fayette County, MO., in August 1854. !First impressions of the new country fortunately proved favorable and agreeable. Entering immediately upon duties in the counting room of a house dealing in general merchandise, with hemp and tobacco as the leading products of the region's tributary, he found no time for home-sickness, and being favored in social surroundings, readily adapted himself to a new home in the "far West," as it then was. !Several years passed, and during this period he met and courted Miss Lucy C. Holloway, the eldest daughter of James M. Holloway, a merchant formerly of Lexington, KY. Taking a trip farther west in the meantime, visiting St. Joseph, Leavenworth and Kansas City, he made a business engagement at the latter point in 1857, and locating at Westport, prepared a home for the lady of his choice, to whom he was married April 14, 1858, enjoying the good old style of a large wedding party given the happy couple at the home of parents in La Fayette County, MO. !The larger portion of the succeeding ten years he was connected with others in the transportation of freights, by mule and cattle trains, from the Missouri River to various points in the farther west, including Salt Lake City, Utah, with Santa Fe, NM and many intermediate trading and military posts. From 1861 to 1865 this business increased to very important magnitude caused by the large demand for supplies at military posts, and in commercial adventures. For two or tree years of this period, the company with which he was associated had in its service from 25,000 to 50,000 head of oxen and mules, using about 1,200 wagons, and employing nearly 15,000 men, involving a business approximating $2,000,000 annually. Mr. Byers originated a plan of records for the business, and so accurately systematized the auditing depart, that in every case of difference occurring for adjustment with government officers and private individuals, his figures were found correct, and ultimately produced satisfactory settlements between all parties. !In 1870, entering the service of the Mechanics’ Bank of Kansas City, he finally became its cashier, and so remained until all the branches of that institution were finally closed and merged into the parent bank at St. Louis, where it still continues. !During several years following he engaged in the wholesale hardware trade, as successor in a long established house, from which has since grown the Hall & Willis Hardware Company. !Since 1880, finding out-door activity and freedom from the counting-room and office more congenial and healthful, he has engaged in real estate enterprises and building. As a pioneer in its development, he began in 1878 the first five-story building, which was occupied for 6 years by the largest dry goods firm in the city, and at present is occupied by the largest wholesale clothing firm in Kansas City. !He was one of the stockholders and directors in the original organization from which has grown the present National Bank of Kansas City, of which he continues to be a director. He was a member of the original Board of Trade, and continues to hold membership in the present re-organization. !Not only in the record of fair success in business life, but also as a citizen, Christian and friend, he has steadily, though unostentatiously devoted a large share of his time, and beyond the average of his means, to the relief of individual embarrassment and misfortune, as well as to public enterprise. Among the latter, the Young Men’s Christian Association enlisted his active and continuous effort and support during at least seven years of its earlier history in Kansas City, and when most in need of firm and constant friends. The present increased strength of its position, and more general appreciation of its practical usefulness, has gathered to it many new friends with whom he shares the harvest joy, as the fruition of earlier years of patient labor, and the seeding time through with it has passed. !Among educational institutions, Park College, located a few miles from Kansas City, has for twelve years, since its organization, received his active support, and as treasurer of its board of trustees, the financial difficulties usually experienced in such enterprises have made large demands upon his time and attention. This institution has grown from an original seventeen to a present catalouge of over four hundred students. !With an utter distaste for political prominence, he never consented to follow such methods as would most likely have secured him positions of that kind, being frequently urged to enter the arena, but steadily declining, with several minor exceptions, to do so. !The church maintains high claim, and has his constant care for its welfare and several support. A member and office bearer of the Presbyterian Church, he has been honored as a chosen representative in the presbytery, synod and general assembly. In its local work for twenty years, he has set aside business demands and personal convenience, when called upon by duty, either as member or officer. !From the period when the line of Third street formed the southern boundary of its business territory, as a resident of Kansas City, with brief intermission for thirty years, John W. Byers has maintained an unblemished record in all relations, and in the average limit of a generation has filled the !measure of a useful life, retaining yet activity and energy which promise well for future years. His only child, Lulu Lee, is now the wife of James M. Love, a merchant of Kansas City, and with two grandsons, these make up a happy home circle. !History of Kansas City Missouri with Illustrations, 1888 Press of D. Mason & Co., 63 West Water St., Syracuse, N.Y. ========================================================================== Somewhere-- I have a lot of paper on the family. After a couple of hurricanes and a crashed computer (and a new roof) I lost interest for awhile. I am 80 years old and work from memory is not always correct. Bob Hopkins in FL Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

In a message dated 1/16/07 9:58:00 PM, gwenbj@seanet.com writes: > >>I don't see how a Joseph Boyers who moved to KY could be the father > of Conrad since he stayed in Mecklenburg and Shepherdstown, VA.  Or are you > saying this is a > connection for your John Byers?  But you also have him staying in West > Virginia in Shepherdstown. > Gwen- The Joseph I am referring to would have been born about 1735 probably in a Germanic state. He would be a brother to John (1732) and an uncle to Conrad?? Please take what I have (now) as opinion. Old opinion , as I gave up on research on Byers to go after easier targets. I will send below what I have handy and perhaps you can find hope. John Boyers born ca 1732 ! Very little is known about our immigrant ancestor John Byers. Within the family it has been written (by his great granddaughter) that "he and three brothers came to America in the early 1700s and settled in Virginia and Pennsylvania". It is further speculated that these brothers were named Conrad, Joseph and Lawrence. Family information further claims that John was a "Captain in the Revolutionary War and that he had only one son". According to Danske Danridge in "Historic Shepherdstown", "Captain John Byers was a man of athletic proportions and he was as brave as he was physicaly powerful". Danridge goes on to say that Captain John 'had died in York Co. Pennsylvania and that he had only one son." "Pennsylvania Archives" Series V, Vol. 1, page 128 and 183 mentions a John Byers who was commissioned a Captain on 27 Apr., 1758 in the 2nd Battalion of Pennsylvania. A reference in the "Virginia Magazine of History and Genealogy" Vol. 23, page 432 mentions a Captain John Byers was to "deliver a letter from Tennessee". (Neither of these may concern our John.) Several people named "John Byers" are found in York Co. Pennsylvania: One of these "John Byers" served as a Private in the Militia of Chester Co.; one left a will dated 1777 (D-21); one left a will dated 1799 (K-031) and there is an estate of a John Beyer which was administered on 7 April, 1784 (but his son John is too old to be the line of interest ); last and of interest is a York Co. record dated 25 September, 1804 mentioning an estate left by Joseph Byers of Lexington KY, uncle of John Byers, Jr. who is over 14 years old and sister Mary age 11 record (OC/I 70). John Jr.'s father John was named guardian. This latter reference deserves further research. (Some descendants think John was in the 8th Regiment, 2nd Brigade of the Pennsylvania line but there is no record to support this claim. John Boyers/Byers born 1779 son of John 1732 Several references have been found regarding John. One of the most important comes from within the family- a letter written by his granddaughter Sarah Ellen (Byers) Curry in 1914 to a niece Lucille Granger, in which dates, names etc., are mentioned. He is also mentioned several times in " Historic Shepherdstown" by Danridge and "Upon This Rock" by Hartzell. ! A leaded glass window is in the St. Peters Luthern Church in Shepherdstown dedicated in his honor (contributed by his son John). ! John and Elizabeth had four sons, one of whom died early. ! The cottage Bible records birth and death dates for John and Elizabeth. John Byers born 1810 son of John 1779 and Elizabeth John was the second son of his parents. ! John was a school teacher. After his marriage he lived first in Martinsburg, Jefferson Co., VA then in Charlestown, Jefferson Co. VA and they next moved to Hagerstown MD in 1841. ! Washington Co. MD land records mention of borrowing $756.75 from his father John and $236.41 from his uncle Joseph Byers to buy a lot, a house, furniture, dishes, tools and three dogs. This debt was to be paid back by 1853. (This John's wife Ann Margaret Weis was a cousin of Helen Keller) John Byers son of John and Ann Margaret ========================================================================== ! He was a "printer's devil" at age ten. When 13 years old he wrote and published a sheet called "Genius of the Age and the "Nutshell". As a result he was employed by Tice & Hammond Co. until age 20 at which time he headed west to Kansas City. ! John moved to Kansas City, MO and after the Civil War he became a very successful business man. See "History of Kansas City". ! John may have been born in Martinsburg, Berkeley Co. VA. ! Byers, John W., was born November 2, 1833 in Jefferson County, VA, the eldest of a family numbering 6 sons and 1 daughter, subsequently removing to Martinsburg, in Berkeley County, VA., where his education began as a pupil in a school opened by his father, who several years later changed residence, removing to Hagerstown, MD., and continued there for many years a successful teacher. !At about ten years of age he became a printer boy, and being exempted from the primary duties usually allotted to the "printer’s devil" passed immediately to the work of a compositor, and within one year attained such experience in deciphering the bad manuscript of the editor, as well as in making up forms, and correction of proofs, as to earn the soubriquet of "Big Type A." This occupation proving unfavorable to health, was exchanged, at thirteen years of age, for employment in the hardware store of Tice & Hammond, then the oldest firm in the State of Maryland. It may be worth mentioning as evidence of juvenile energy, that as a pastime for the long winter evenings of his printer’s career, he indulged in first editing and publishing, on his own account, a diminutive sheet called the "Genius of the Age", followed the ensuring winter by the "Nutshell", double the size of its predecessor, in which spicy local squibs, and points about the neighborhood, in weekly collations, attracted sufficient patronage to supply "pocket money". This precociousness attracted the attention of the firm above referred to, with whom he remained until twenty years of age, when a favorable opportunity occurred, inducing his obedience to the popular injunction - "Go West, young man." !Among the incidents of this first journey, removing him so far from the old home roof, a serious railroad wreck occurred, from which he escaped unhurt, by an exchange of coaches on the train about thirty minutes before. During 33 years since, making many journeys, he has been preserved from participating in any similar disaster. The old stage coach was then yet a necessary link between the temporary terminals of uncompleted railway, but in due time both were substituted by the luxury of a Missouri River steamer - the F.X. Aubrey - at St. Louis, MO., and several more days of comfortable travel completed this first long journey, at Wellington, La Fayette County, MO., in August 1854. !First impressions of the new country fortunately proved favorable and agreeable. Entering immediately upon duties in the counting room of a house dealing in general merchandise, with hemp and tobacco as the leading products of the region's tributary, he found no time for home-sickness, and being favored in social surroundings, readily adapted himself to a new home in the "far West," as it then was. !Several years passed, and during this period he met and courted Miss Lucy C. Holloway, the eldest daughter of James M. Holloway, a merchant formerly of Lexington, KY. Taking a trip farther west in the meantime, visiting St. Joseph, Leavenworth and Kansas City, he made a business engagement at the latter point in 1857, and locating at Westport, prepared a home for the lady of his choice, to whom he was married April 14, 1858, enjoying the good old style of a large wedding party given the happy couple at the home of parents in La Fayette County, MO. !The larger portion of the succeeding ten years he was connected with others in the transportation of freights, by mule and cattle trains, from the Missouri River to various points in the farther west, including Salt Lake City, Utah, with Santa Fe, NM and many intermediate trading and military posts. From 1861 to 1865 this business increased to very important magnitude caused by the large demand for supplies at military posts, and in commercial adventures. For two or tree years of this period, the company with which he was associated had in its service from 25,000 to 50,000 head of oxen and mules, using about 1,200 wagons, and employing nearly 15,000 men, involving a business approximating $2,000,000 annually. Mr. Byers originated a plan of records for the business, and so accurately systematized the auditing depart, that in every case of difference occurring for adjustment with government officers and private individuals, his figures were found correct, and ultimately produced satisfactory settlements between all parties. !In 1870, entering the service of the Mechanics’ Bank of Kansas City, he finally became its cashier, and so remained until all the branches of that institution were finally closed and merged into the parent bank at St. Louis, where it still continues. !During several years following he engaged in the wholesale hardware trade, as successor in a long established house, from which has since grown the Hall & Willis Hardware Company. !Since 1880, finding out-door activity and freedom from the counting-room and office more congenial and healthful, he has engaged in real estate enterprises and building. As a pioneer in its development, he began in 1878 the first five-story building, which was occupied for 6 years by the largest dry goods firm in the city, and at present is occupied by the largest wholesale clothing firm in Kansas City. !He was one of the stockholders and directors in the original organization from which has grown the present National Bank of Kansas City, of which he continues to be a director. He was a member of the original Board of Trade, and continues to hold membership in the present re-organization. !Not only in the record of fair success in business life, but also as a citizen, Christian and friend, he has steadily, though unostentatiously devoted a large share of his time, and beyond the average of his means, to the relief of individual embarrassment and misfortune, as well as to public enterprise. Among the latter, the Young Men’s Christian Association enlisted his active and continuous effort and support during at least seven years of its earlier history in Kansas City, and when most in need of firm and constant friends. The present increased strength of its position, and more general appreciation of its practical usefulness, has gathered to it many new friends with whom he shares the harvest joy, as the fruition of earlier years of patient labor, and the seeding time through with it has passed. !Among educational institutions, Park College, located a few miles from Kansas City, has for twelve years, since its organization, received his active support, and as treasurer of its board of trustees, the financial difficulties usually experienced in such enterprises have made large demands upon his time and attention. This institution has grown from an original seventeen to a present catalouge of over four hundred students. !With an utter distaste for political prominence, he never consented to follow such methods as would most likely have secured him positions of that kind, being frequently urged to enter the arena, but steadily declining, with several minor exceptions, to do so. !The church maintains high claim, and has his constant care for its welfare and several support. A member and office bearer of the Presbyterian Church, he has been honored as a chosen representative in the presbytery, synod and general assembly. In its local work for twenty years, he has set aside business demands and personal convenience, when called upon by duty, either as member or officer. !From the period when the line of Third street formed the southern boundary of its business territory, as a resident of Kansas City, with brief intermission for thirty years, John W. Byers has maintained an unblemished record in all relations, and in the average limit of a generation has filled the !measure of a useful life, retaining yet activity and energy which promise well for future years. His only child, Lulu Lee, is now the wife of James M. Love, a merchant of Kansas City, and with two grandsons, these make up a happy home circle. !History of Kansas City Missouri with Illustrations, 1888 Press of D. Mason & Co., 63 West Water St., Syracuse, N.Y. ========================================================================== Somewhere-- I have a lot of paper on the family. After a couple of hurricanes and a crashed computer (and a new roof) I lost interest for awhile. I am 80 years old and work from memory is not always correct. Bob Hopkins in FL Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

In a message dated 1/16/07 2:33:51 PM, gwenbj@seanet.com writes: > > This Thomas W. Turner was the family genealogist but he must have died by > now.  He was b. in 1905. > "He and his brother operate the Turner Bros. Spring-Hill Dairy Farm, > Shepherdstown, WV."  I'll keep > looking for the John Byers chapter in the books. > > Gwen- Tommy Turner died about 20 years ago. I think I have all of his data. However he could never find the parents of Conrad Boyers. Of interest is a Joseph Boyers who moved to KY after the Rev War. He named his nephew John in his will. This Joseph may be the one earlier associated with a John Boyers in York Co PA who was an only son of a John Boyers who was a Rev War soldier? BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Hi Bob: That is really interesting. Do you know what chapter in the American Boyers contains this John Boyers from York Co, PA? I don't see how a Joseph Boyers who moved to KY could be the father of Conrad since he stayed in Mecklenburg and Shepherdstown, VA. Or are you saying this is a connection for your John Byers? But you also have him staying in West Virginia in Shepherdstown. Name: John BYERS Birth: 12 SEP 1779 in Shepherdstown, Berkeley Co, VA Death: 18 JUN 1854 in Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co, VA Could you send Joseph Boyers will in KY which names his nephew John? Do you have the Rev. War pension application for this John Boyers? Was he from York Co, PA? We have a John Boyer/Byers that was in York Co. that is in our Boyer DNA test group. Hans Boyer, b. ca. 1690 d. 1756 Conestoga Twp, Lancaster Co, PA/Barbara John Boyer b 1725-1729 Conestoga Twp, Lancaster Co, PA d 1809 Manheim Twp, York Co, PA/Elizabeth Hoover Rev. Benjamin Boyer b.ca. 1760 Lancaster Co, PA d. 1826 Hopewell Twp, Cumberland, PA/Anna Miller Rev. John Albert Byers b. 1788 York Co, PA d. 1871 Union Twp, Hancock Co, OH/Nancy Brenneman Benjamin Byers b. 1810 d. 1886 Newburg, Cumberland Co, PA/Elizabeth Stouffer 26074 Carol Byers [cabyers@frontiernet.net] "American Boyers" v. 3 Chap 27 [Hans Boyer] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cabyers/ http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Boyer/ Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: byers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:byers-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of BOBHOP@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:13 PM To: byers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BYERS] Byers Gwen- Tommy Turner died about 20 years ago. I think I have all of his data. However he could never find the parents of Conrad Boyers. Of interest is a Joseph Boyers who moved to KY after the Rev War. He named his nephew John in his will. This Joseph may be the one earlier associated with a John Boyers in York Co PA who was an only son of a John Boyers who was a Rev War soldier? BobHop Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/289.308.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have a connection with you, but with my Byers research, I have found several different spellings of the Byers name. Boyers & Beyers & then the way we spell it Byers. I don't know if this helps or not, but I thought I'd try. Good luck!!! Helen Byers

Every so often I write in hopes someone has come across my family or knows something about them. I am looking for Green Don BYERS born about 1837 in SC (based on 1860 census). He was a confederate Capt. Mortally wounded at the Battle Of Helena, AR on 4 July 1863 and died 18 July in a Union hospital in Memphis, TN. Green Don had one child, a son. We don't know anything of his parents or siblings. Family lore is that several brothers came to America from Scotland and once here they went their different ways. There is or was only one living male descendant left, but can't be found for a DNA sample. If anyone has similar family lore or knows of Green Don Byers from SC I would love to hear from you. Phil Di Matteo

Hi Helen: What is your family line? Are you from the Conrad Byers family line from Augusta Co, VA? We found his line in the "American Boyers" books in Vol. 5 Chapter 67 [CO] Conrad Byers, b. c 1750s; of Shepherdstown, W.Va. We are hoping to get someone from his line to join the Boyer DNA Test. Or are you from the John Byers line? I see in the book that it says: "Mr. Thomas W. Turner says 'There is strong evidence that Joseph, John and Lawrence Byers of this and nearby Maryland area were brothers of Conrad. John was sometimes referred to as John Boyer.'" This Thomas W. Turner was the family genealogist but he must have died by now. He was b. in 1905. "He and his brother operate the Turner Bros. Spring-Hill Dairy Farm, Shepherdstown, WV." I'll keep looking for the John Byers chapter in the books. Hope you have a male Byers relative who can join us in the test. We have posted the results and the family lines at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Boyer/ Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: byers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:byers-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 4:44 AM To: BYERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BYERS] Byers family of August Co., Va This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/289.308.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have a connection with you, but with my Byers research, I have found several different spellings of the Byers name. Boyers & Beyers & then the way we spell it Byers. I don't know if this helps or not, but I thought I'd try. Good luck!!! Helen Byers

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers, Boyer, Beyer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/289.308.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the American Boyers books there is a Samuel Boyer in Washington Co, MD. He was b. 1813 and d. 1891. Chapter 9 (Al) JOHANN ANDREAS BEYER of Bern Twp., Berks Co., Pa. 90 2-A15 JOHN PHILIP BEYER of Westmoreland Co., Pa. 90 4-A1541 HENRY BOYER of Perry Co., Ohio 91 3-A157 JOHN CHRISTOPHER BOYER of Clark Co., Md. 144 4-A1576 ABRAHAM BOYER of Waterville, Ohio 172 5-A15761 SAMUEL BOYER of Washington Co., Md. 172 Do you know if your Byers family is in the American Boyers books? We have started a Boyer DNA test for the German lines of any spelling and we are trying to figure out all of these family connections. See our website at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Boyer/ The Y-DNA test is a very simple sponge swab of the inside of the cheek of the person being tested. The test participant must be a man who is a direct line descendant of your David Byers. You can see the results that we have now on the webpage and we have five new tests on order. We are hoping to combine a lot of the family records that are in the "American Boyers" books. Sometimes we just can't find that vital piece of evidence to tie us to another family and with the DNA we can prove a relationship. Write to me if you have any questions. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com

Gwenn - Thanks for the email. My wife does have a living cousin who qualifies for a DNA test. He is about 85 now but has several sons. He is also a family historian. William Bowling Byers 3103 Borden Rd Austin, TX 78757-4349 He does not have email. "Bo" has written a published book on our line. All of Conrad's descendants that I have found (around Hagerstown) are not of the surname Boyers/Byers. We did have many contacts with one lady who was from Conrad's line and ours. She is now deceased. Our line has not appeared in the series of books on the Byers family. Those seem to be from the English clans. BobHop in FL Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Hi Bob: I hope that your wife has a Byers cousin so we can test out your theory about Conrad and John being brothers. I see your John Byers Birth: 12 SEP 1779 in Shepherdstown, Berkeley Co, VA on your WorldConnect webpage. Do you correspond with anyone descended from Conrad Boyers/Byers? Are these families listed in the "American Boyers" books? We have started a Boyer DNA test for the German lines and we are trying to figure out all of these family connections. See our website at: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Boyer/ The Y-DNA test is a very simple sponge swab of the inside of the cheek of the person being tested. The test participant must be a man who is a direct line descendant of your John Byers. Often times we can sign on a cousin who will be willing to do the test as long as we pay for it. You can see the results that we have now on the webpage and we have five new tests on order. We are hoping to combine a lot of the family records that are in the "American Boyers" books. Sometimes we just can't find that vital piece of evidence to tie us to another family and with the DNA we can prove a relationship. Gwen Boyer Bjorkman gwenbj@seanet.com -----Original Message----- From: byers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:byers-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of BOBHOP@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:40 AM To: BYERS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BYERS] Byers/Boyers Carolyn In the early 1800s there were two lines of Byers/Boyers in Washington Co MD. One line was Conrad and the other John. They may have been brothers. Both lines were of German origin. My wife's maiden name was Byers. Her ggf, her gggf and her ggggf (the immigrant) were all named John. The name Boyer was used until about 1800 and then many of the family switched to Byers. The name David is not found in my data. BobHoP Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

Carolyn In the early 1800s there were two lines of Byers/Boyers in Washington Co MD. One line was Conrad and the other John. They may have been brothers. Both lines were of German origin. My wife's maiden name was Byers. Her ggf, her gggf and her ggggf (the immigrant) were all named John. The name Boyer was used until about 1800 and then many of the family switched to Byers. The name David is not found in my data. BobHoP Visit our home page http://bobhopkins0.tripod.com/ Hopkins File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins0 Byers File http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bobhopkins1 Major family names- Abel, Adams, Anders, Bellisfield, Brock, Byers, Davis, Dement, Field, Guffey, Hancock, Hockaday, Hopkins, Irvine, McClanahan, Scarbrough, Shipley, Strother, Stonestreet, Wade, Wampler, Westlake

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Byers/Boyers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/289.308.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone know about a David Byers who was born approximately in 1800 or 1795 and married Martha Brewer in Washington County Maryland in 1824? Somewhere I read that his father was named John Byers but I cannot find any information about them. Is it possible that the name was originally Boyers?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.byers/779.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ramona, Your message caught my eye because we have very little information about the Byers branch of my family. My gg grandfather was David Byers who married Martha Brewer in Washington County, Md.in 1824 or so. That's all we know about him, but my father's cousin always said she had a dream about him and he was walking over a hill and he had red hair! Do you have any David Byers information and what is this about red hair?!!!! Carolyn