In a message dated 12/26/00 5:39:38 AM GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << The only information I have is the following. FRANCES THURTLE JAMIESON Born 1827c Island of Bute, Scotland. Parents unknown. Not much to go on is it??????? >> Hi I'm afraid there is no Frances Jamieson in the 1851 census in Bute. What evidence do you have that she was born in Buteshire? Have you found her in another census? The marriage's entry saying she was of a parish in Buteshire only means she was living there at the time of her marriage not that she was born there. Is there any chance that the Thurtle name has come down orally and is actually Thirkell? Irene