[email protected] wrote: > > Candy, > > I started to try to answer your question about the "Campbell/Stuart Bute > split" but quickly realised it was sadly outside my capabilities:-( Hopefully > someone else will step forward. I did dig out some other information that > might be of interest. > > The name of Stuart, Scotland's royal dynasty, is intertwined with the history > of Bute. The family name of the current Marquess of Bute, who lives on the > island, is Crichton-Stuart (the Crichton was added in the early 19th century > because of a marriage). The Crichton-Stuart family can trace their ancestry > back to the 12th century. By 1204, these Stuarts held lands in Bute. In 1315 > Walter Stuart married the daughter of Robert the Bruce, their son becoming > Robert II, the first Stuart king. Robert had 13 children by two marriages and > eight out of wedlock. A John Stuart was appointed hereditary Sheriff of Bute > in 1385 and granted certain lands on the island, but it is uncertain whether > he was one of Robert's second family or one of the illegitimate. The family > was given various hereditary titles over the centuries and continued to > prosper. Most of the island is now owned by the Marquess. > > The ancient family of Bannatyne, originally from Ayrshire, occupied the 14th > century Kames Castle at the north end of Bute. At one time the family had 11 > estates throughout Scotland, although Kames was always the main one. The > last of the direct line of Bannatynes, James, died in 1786. He was succeeded > by his nephew, William Mcleod, who took the name Bannatyne. The estate was > sold in 1812. > > The name Glass appears to be an old one on Bute. It is mentioned in 17th > century records for Kingarth, for example, and in the 1660s a John Glass was > the provost of Rothesay. A list of landholders in the island in 1657 > includes John Glass, portioner of Mid-Ascog. There are Glass tombstones at > Rothesay and Kingarth. > > I *think* the Campbell/Stuart split referred to might be to do with a > document called the National Covenant and also loyalties during the English > Civil War. The Campbells, led by the Duke of Argyll, supported the Covenant > and fought against the king. I believe the Stuarts of Bute were loyalists, > but I am not sure of this. Can someone help me out here? > > As you may know, Charles I (1625-49), raised in England, had little > understanding of Scottish religious reformism and believed in the divine > right of kings. In 1637 he attempted to impose a new prayer book on the Kirk. > The reformers in Scotland denounced his changes as Popery and organised the > National Covenant, a religious pledge that committed the signatories to > "labour by all means lawful to recover the purity and liberty of the Gospel > as it was established and professed." Bute on the whole supported the > Covenant. Hector Bannatyne of Kames signed as a representative of the > landowners of Bute and Matthew Spence for the burgesses of Rothesay. > > As far as I know the Campbells had no family ties to Bute, but I'm prepared > to be corrected on that. There were various Campbell raids on the island. > During the 1685 rebellion the followers of the Duke of Argyll overran Bute, > plundered the town of Rothesay and burned Rothesay Castle, after which it > remained ruined and uninhabitable. > > Most of my information on the Bute families comes from The Isle of Bute by > Norman S Newton (published by David and Charles ISBN 1 898630 00, £7.99). > This is basically a guide book but it gives a good overview of Bute history > and has stunning pictures of the island. The Island of Bute by Ian S Munro > (David and Charles ISBN 0 7153 6081) is also basically a travel book, but > goes into a little more detail about the island's history. It is out of print > but you might be able to get it through a library. > > As you may know, In Search of Scottish Ancestry by Gerald Hamilton-Edwards > (Phillimore) has a good introduction to Scottish history and explains about > the Covenanters etc. I also find Scotland The Rough Guide handy for its > general information on Scotland as well as its explanation of the historical > framework. > > I hope you find your Glass connection to Bute :-) I also hope I'm not going > to regret stepping outside my area of limited knowledge into this fascinating > but complicated period of Scottish history. Fingers crossed but I wait to be > corrected ... > > Regards > Madeleine > Wales > > In a message dated 4/6/00 11:19:44 AM GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] > writes: > > << Recently Daphne Kilbourn-Jacob posted some information in which she > mentioned the Campbell and Stuart Septs split Bute. I am woefully uninformed > on the history of Bute and was wondering if someone could give me some > background on this split. > > I'm told my family (Glass) was a Sept of Stuart of Bute, so am wondering > how/if this split impacted my (so far, unsuccessful) search for Bute > ancestors. >> Dear Madeleine, Candy and others, My information on the "split" of Bute by the Campbell and Stuart Clans comes from a clan map in A. MacLean's "A Concise History of Scotland". Unfortunately, my copy is in Vermont so I can't give the p. or ISBN numbers. It appears that the two clans owned the land, if I remember right, the Campbells in the north and the Stuarts in the south, I also don't remember the time frame. Sorry to be so vague but I will try to get the correct information and pass it along. Meanwhile, MacLean's book has a pretty good overview of Scotland, is in paperback and can be found in most used bookstores. It gives highlights which can be explored in greater depth by scholars who specialize in specific areas and subjects. Madeleine, I wonder if you could give me an address or bookseller of the book "The Isle of Bute". I would love to purchase it, hopefully in the US. And Candy, I don't see how the ownership of the Island by the 2 Clans would obscure your search for your ancestors. If anything, they may have been septs of one clan or the other and would therefore be listed on their webpages. Might be easier to check, then if you find them, contact the Clan Genealogist for further information. My Bannatyne ancestry dates back to Bute and I am a direct descendant. My immigrant ancestor was William Ballantine, b. 1627, came to Boston, Mass. just about 1650 or before. The line mentioned in an earlier post may not have died out in the late 1700's but I'm pursuing several new leads on Wm.'s place of birth and parentage, as he apparently lied about these in the New World and may have been a secret Jacobite (Stuart), while the family was a sept of the Campbells. Wish I could be more precise but illness has prevented me from being more active in gathering primary documents, as well as part of my own references. Hope this helps a little and doesn't confuse people further. I would be happy to present verification or new material as I get it. Meanwhile, anyone on the list who can give information on the Bannatyne family pre-1650, in Kames would have my gratitude. Daphne Jacob