My GGfather Hugh McIlwraith married a Mary McMeeken in 1878. Mary McMeeken was born in Kirkcowan, Wigtownshire around 1845. Her Father, William (wife Mary Drynan), was born at Poundland, Colmonell in 1821 and his father, James McMeeken (wife Margaret Lawson from Ballymoney), was a joiner at Poundland. There were McIlwraiths farming at Poundland around this time. What I am trying to establish is whether the Hugh McIlwraith who married the Mary McMeeken were both originating from Colmonell or whether he was from Dailly - my cousin (a McIlwraith) recollects that the brother (Alexander) of GGF Hugh had come from Dailly. Certainly the sequence of family names would point to Dailly as having been Hugh Mcilwraith's place of birth but I need some link between Hugh's marriage in 1878 and his birthplace. My whole family on the McIlwraith/McMeeken side were Reformed Presbyterians. Would this make a difference to the amount of local records available? Any assistance in this would be greatly appreciated. This family linked up with Macbeths from Rothesay in 1910 or so and I have records covering Dunns, Dunlops, Montgomery's (Ayrshire) and Thoms, Gillies, Dicks, (Rothesay). Anyone interested, please let me know and I will post details. Regards Alistair.

Hi everyone, There is the latest details on my Thompson ancestors: My 5 x great-grandfather is John THOMPSON, a farmer. John married Agnes MCPHERSON in August 1798 at Ardchattan, Argyll. John is thought to have died in Bute. The couple's children are: Anne (Agnes) Thomson (1800-1869). Married John Black. Lived in Rothesay, Bute. Mary Thomson (1799-1866). Lived in Rothesay, Bute. Unnamed Thomson (1807-). Possibly named Charles. Sarah Thomson (1814-). Lived in Bute. Daniel Thomson (1802-) I have also made a web page for my Thompson family of Bute. It is at: http://www.geocities.com/sharon_hawkins_2000/thomson.htm If anyone has any Bute research notes that mention a Thompson in Buteshire I would be absolutely delighted if they could forward me a copy so I can add it to my web page. Huge cheers, Sharon Hawkins

Hi Listers I have just received some information (via snail mail) about my MENZIES/HALLIDAY connection: Janet Shaw MENZIES, eldest dau of late John MENZIES, Silversmith, married George HALLIDAY, Joiner and Timber Merchant, KAME SAW MILL, Bute at 14 West Blackhall Street, Greenock on 19 April 1870. Does anyone know anything about the Kame Saw Mill in Bute? Janelle Canberra, Australia aurora@dynamite.com.au Researching Davie, Halliday, Barr, Taylor, Menzies

Have the following from the parish register of Rothesay; Marriages June 1754 Neil TAYLOR jnr. cooper in Rothesay & Susanna KELBRUN daughter to Robert KELBRUN late Baillie in Rothesay were booked 7th and married thereafter. December 1797 James MCKINLAY seaman, son of James MCKINLAY, shoremaster in Rothesay and Cathrine CLARK daughter to the deceased John CLARK, sometime cottar in Shalunt. Booked the 18th and married the 25th. 5 children of the above John, c.14.10.1798 James and Ninian c.15.12.1799 Elizabeth c.17.6.1804 Margaret c.30.8.1801 Births Charlotte, daughter of Alexander TAYLOR seaman in Rothesay and Mary BROWN was born 27th inst. [1784] baptised 2nd January 1785. Also found a CLERK which is probably wise to keep in mind considering the spelling variations which are common. There are a couple of John TAYLOR/Isabella CLARK marriages on the LDS site which may be worth looking into: 1. 26/7/1872 Dyke, Moray 2. 25/1/1875 Ardrossan. Ayr Good luck Bill Mck.

TAYLOR CLARK HODGE RESEARCHING THE FOLLOWING NAMES John Taylor b aprox 1843 d ? wife Isabella Clark b Oct 31, 1848 d April 10, 1927 burried Lockranza, Buteshire on the Isle of Arran Scotland 9 children in the order of birth 1 Alexander b ? d ? 2 Elizabeth b ? d ? 3 Archabald b May 12,1883 d Aprox 1975 Toronto Canada 4 Isabella b ? d ? 5 Thomas b ? d aprox 1972 California 6 Mary A (my grandmother) Husband Frederick Charles Hodge b aprox 1890 d aprox earley 1950s Vancouver BC Canada also lived in Innisfail Alberta Canada 7 Margaret b ? d ? 8 Edward (Ned) b 1888 Was in WW1 d 1988 Vancouver or Victoria BC Canada 9 Charles b aprox 1893 d aprox 1965 I have very little info on this family More info on my grandfather b aprox 1890 d 1917 WW1 was in Canadian armed forces killed by Germans in France his regimental # 883048 Box 440545 info in the Canadian Archives probably Toronto John Taylors Mother ? Father Neil Taylor b ? Isabella Clark Mother ? Father Donald Clark Thanks for any info Audrey Bowne Seattle gbowne@email.msn.com Also researching the surname BOWNE from England

I have a marriage record of a Margaret CURRIE to Alexander McKIRDY in Rothesay 1867 but have no connections back or forward. Bill McK

>This is from the 1837 Pigots Directory (Arran) Hello Dot, May I ask if it is possible to get this Directory in book/fiche form in Australia? Cheers, Ruth

Thought I would throw in (gently, of course) my 3x greatgrandmother, Jean/Jane CURRIE. Source: Monumental Inscriptions Bute/Arran. Erected by Donald HENDERSON of Torbeg who died 30 Oct 1888 age 87, in memory of his wife Jane CURRIE who died 5 October 1873 age 69, their daughter Mary who died 23 Jan 1841 aged 9, their son Neil who died 23 Jun 1933. I hope to be able to photograph the above headstone in late May/Jun :-)) Source: Deaths McKirdy Index Bute 1855-1875 Deceased: Jean CURRIE Age at Death: 69 Spouse Name: Donald HENDERSON Registration District: Kilmory Certificate No: 0044 Year: 1873 Father: Angus CURRIE Occupation: Deceased Farmer Mother: Jean KENNEDY Informant: Archibald HENDERSON, son of Donald HENDERSON (I hope I deciphered all this properly from the Index!!) Cheers, Ruth, Adelaide, South Australia

Sorry everyone, The farm name in the Finnie MI is Kirkton not Kirktoun, Madeleine

Graeme, The following Cumbrae MI appears to refer to your ancestors: John Finnie, farmer, Kirktoun died 16.11.1834 aged 70, wife Mary Paterson 16.12.1833 aged 69, son George, farmer Kirktoun 4.4.1873 74 (wife Helen Jamieson 28.12.1884 82, son John 13.8.1845 14, son James farmer Kirktoun 11.8.1891 57 (wife Mary Sinclair 9.7.1923 76 1s John 2.1.1933 59) ). This is from Bute and Arran Monumental Inscriptions edited by Alison Mitchell. There are a couple more Finnie MIs which I'll send you off list, Good luck Madeleine Wales

Hi Danielle, Hi everyone, This is from the 1837 Pigots Directory (Arran) Listed under "Acadamies and Schools" CURRIE, John. Shaddog "Boot & Shoe Makers" SILLARS, Peter. Lamlash "Grocers etc" SILLARS, Peter. Lamlash (Rothesay) "Acadamies and Schools" CURRIE, Malcolm. Kilchattan Bay "Boot & Shoe Makers" CURRIE, Duncan. Montgue st SELLARS, Duncan. Montague st (?) Cheers, - Dot Wells (nee Maclean) Perth, Western Australia. mailto:wells@wanet.com.au Research Names http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/wel02.html

Hi I have a John HALLIDAY married Catherine CURRIE in Rothesay, Bute on 23.7.1809 and also Ann HALLIDAY married Malcolm CURRIE in Rothesay, Bute on 7.1.1812. I assume that Malcolm and Catherine CURRIE were siblings. I haven't any details on Malcolm CURRIE but there may be a connection somewhere. Regards Janelle Canberra, Australia aurora@dynamite.com.au Researching Davie, Halliday, Barr, Taylor, Menzies Just writting to let people know of my families and hoping somewhere out there is a relative waiting to be discovered. My details are as follows, I hope it can be of some help, Currie Families - Isle of Arran, Govan, Ayrshire etc. I have been researching the name Currie for about 5 years and managed to trace as far back as my G.G.G.G. Grandfather. I will give you a brief summary of the information I have gathered. John Currie (my G.G.G.G.Grandfather) born abt 1806 in Achingallon, Kilmory, Isle of Arran. He married Catherine Sillars (born abt 1810, in Achingallon, Kilmory, Arran) on the 22nd November 1831 in Kilmory, Arran. They had six children: Walter born 27th August 1832, (my G.G.G.Grandfather) Mary born 5th February 1835, in Kilpatrick, Kilmory, Arran, Catherine born 19th February 1837, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, James born 17th May 1839, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, Donald born 20th October 1842, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, Elizabeth born 17th January 1844, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran. Ronald born 1846, in Kilmory, Arran. William born 1849, in Kilmory, Arran. Ann born 1855, in Kilmory, Arran. I descend from Walter, he married Ann Jane Bell (born 1833 in Edinburgh, Scotland) on 11th September 1853, in Ayr, Ayrshire. They had six children: Alexina born 26th March 1854, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Catherine Sillars born 1st April 1855, in Ayr, Ayrshire, John born 23rd December 1856, in Ayr, Ayrshire, (my G.G.Grandfather) James born 28th January 1859, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Elizabeth Stewart born 13th November 1860, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Walter born 18th December 1862, in Ayr, Ayrshire. I descend from John, he married Mary Kesson (born 17th March 1859) in Govan, Lanarkshire, I do not know when they were married. John was a boiler maker and migrated to Australia in 1879 to Peterhead, Pt. Adelaide, South Australia. John and Mary had five children. (I have all their children's details if you would like them). I look forward to hearing from you, if you would like anymore information and maybe one day we can connect our families together, as they were living in the same district etc. Regards, Danielle Phillpott (nee CURRIE) Murray Bridge, South Australia. Researching the names: CURRIE, SELLARS, SILLARS, KESSON, BELL, MONTGOMERY (all SCOTLAND)

Just writting to let people know of my families and hoping somewhere out there is a relative waiting to be discovered. My details are as follows, I hope it can be of some help, Currie Families - Isle of Arran, Govan, Ayrshire etc. I have been researching the name Currie for about 5 years and managed to trace as far back as my G.G.G.G. Grandfather. I will give you a brief summary of the information I have gathered. John Currie (my G.G.G.G.Grandfather) born abt 1806 in Achingallon, Kilmory, Isle of Arran. He married Catherine Sillars (born abt 1810, in Achingallon, Kilmory, Arran) on the 22nd November 1831 in Kilmory, Arran. They had six children: Walter born 27th August 1832, (my G.G.G.Grandfather) Mary born 5th February 1835, in Kilpatrick, Kilmory, Arran, Catherine born 19th February 1837, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, James born 17th May 1839, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, Donald born 20th October 1842, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran, Elizabeth born 17th January 1844, in Tormore, Kilmory, Arran. Ronald born 1846, in Kilmory, Arran. William born 1849, in Kilmory, Arran. Ann born 1855, in Kilmory, Arran. I descend from Walter, he married Ann Jane Bell (born 1833 in Edinburgh, Scotland) on 11th September 1853, in Ayr, Ayrshire. They had six children: Alexina born 26th March 1854, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Catherine Sillars born 1st April 1855, in Ayr, Ayrshire, John born 23rd December 1856, in Ayr, Ayrshire, (my G.G.Grandfather) James born 28th January 1859, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Elizabeth Stewart born 13th November 1860, in Ayr, Ayrshire, Walter born 18th December 1862, in Ayr, Ayrshire. I descend from John, he married Mary Kesson (born 17th March 1859) in Govan, Lanarkshire, I do not know when they were married. John was a boiler maker and migrated to Australia in 1879 to Peterhead, Pt. Adelaide, South Australia. John and Mary had five children. (I have all their children's details if you would like them). I look forward to hearing from you, if you would like anymore information and maybe one day we can connect our families together, as they were living in the same district etc. Regards, Danielle Phillpott (nee CURRIE) Murray Bridge, South Australia. Researching the names: CURRIE, SELLARS, SILLARS, KESSON, BELL, MONTGOMERY (all SCOTLAND)

Hello, everyone, from Queensland, Australia. I have just joined the list and hope someone may be able to help me chase some ancestors, from my grandmother back. What we have so far (from the earliest info forwards) is: John FINNIE; b 1764, Cumbrae; no idea on death; m Aug 1789, Cumbrae to Mary PATTERSON. Had 8 children between 1790 & 1806, all born in Cumbrae, including: George FINNIE; b Mar 1799, Cumbrae; d 1873, Cumbrae; m Jan 1828, to Helen JAMIESON (b 1805, Kingarth; d 1884, Cumbrae). At least 4 children between 1823 & 1835, including: Agnes FINNIE; ch Jan 1829, Cumbrae; d Mar 1870, Rothesay; m Jun 1853, either Cumbrae or Rothesay, to William GILLIES (b Oct 1826, Douglas, Lanark; d Nov 1872, Rothesay). Had 7 children, apparently all born in Rothesay, including: William GILLIES; b Aug 1860, Rothesay; d 1933, Melbourne, Australia; m 1893 to Ruth MC KINNON, nee HOWE (b Dec 1863, Irvine, Ayr; d Nov 1945, Melbourne, Aust). They had 7 children, including my grandmother: Helen GILLIES; b Jan 1896, Millport (either Cumbrae or Kilmarnock); d Oct 1982, Melbourne, Aust; m Aug 1921 to Frederick FITZPATRICK. If anyone is able to give any further info on any of these people or take things any further back, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Graeme Fitzpatrick

Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, and just use the -request@ address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages, thanks -----Original Message----- From: Arch1122@aol.com <Arch1122@aol.com> To: ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com <ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, 26 March 2000 23:10 Subject: New to the list >Hi, >My name is Lynnda, I have been researching for about two years now, Primarily >on Lanarkshire, But Recently found that I have 2 living relatives. One of >which lives on the Isle of Bute. Mrs. Francis Kelly, she is the great >granddaughter to my Great-great Aunt Catherine SCALLON (sister of My >Great-grandfather James SCALLON of Bridgeton, Glasgow). It is so exciting >when you can find connections. I sent her a Letter But unfortunately have not >heard back yet. >Just thought I'd share. > > >Keep Climbing, >Lynnda Scallon >Arch1122@aol.com >Searching >SCALLON, Fermanagh, Ireland to Bridgeton,Glasgow >McGRORY, Fermanagh, Ireland >McMANUS, Fermanagh, Ireland >TIERNAN, Glasgow >McFADYEN, Glasgow >DAILY, Bridgeton, Glasgow >DUFFY, >CAIRNEY (Kearney),Glasgow >MALONEY, Bridgeton, Glasgow >KELLY, Isle of Bute >

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> Hi all. > > I have been following e-mails about the LDS Services on the Argyll list > and have information that I just sent to them. I think all of you need to > see this as well . Here was my message to them... and now to you Good luck. > > I have some new information for all of you. > > First of all I am looking for Mulhollands in and around Kilfinan (Argyll) > and also in Rothesay (Bute). > > I have been using the LDS's www.familysearch.com website. I have found a > number of Mulhollands there. I am fairly sure they are mine. > > Now back to the Reproduction Services. > > Here is what I have learned from talking to the LDS's Family History > Department, Reproduction Services in Salt Lake (phone 800.346-6044 ask for > Reproduction Services. This line is for information only no research > requests) > If you print out the page from their website you have all the information > needed to make a request. > It tells you that it came from the IGI or the Ancestral files. > It has the Batch number (usually starts with M or C) and the Source Call > Number. > It also has the details of the event, Name(s) dates and location, etc. > > There is a bigger fee for this service ($2.00) because they have to search > the whole film. > BUT $2.00 if far less than sending for the information from Edinburgh. > > You do not need the form mentioned in previous e-mails, just a short > letter requesting the service.. (they will send you one back for your next > request... don't forget to photocopy this form, you will want to use it > for all other request) > > Here is the address to send the request to: > > Family History Department > 35 North West Temple Street > Salt Lake City, UT > 84150 > USA > > Good luck! > John

In a message dated 3/23/00 4:11:51 PM GMT Standard Time, joencarol@earthlink.net writes: << Does anyone have access to Births from 1904 in Buteshire, maybe Rothesay? I'm looking for HARRY COLLINS Jan.16,1904 father was WILLIAM THOMAS COLLINS and mother MARY MCINTOSH. He was possibly illigitemate. >> The means of accessing these is to go to Register House in Edinburgh or pay someone else to go on your behalf. It costs £17 for a day ticket which allows you to search the indexes and pencil copy the entries from the fiche. If you are fairly sure of your date you could e-mail Reg House and order a copy of the certificate for £13 ..but if your date was wrong I don't think they would do a search for you free. Irene

Hi Carol, At this stage I cannot help however I will be looking into bits on the Rothesay P.O. when I am in Rothesay in May. I believe a relative of mine was postmaster in the 1880s or 1890s and will be checking him out so will see what is available. (Please however don't expect too much before June) Cheers Bill McKinlay