Hello again, In my previous message I forgot to mention a more specialised website, for Mount Stuart, the fabulous Victorian Gothic home of the Marquesses of Bute. It is at www.mountstuart.com It has some pictures, but most of them seem to take a long time to load. The text might be of interest, though, Madeleine

Dot, The site www.isle-of-bute.com has a small picture gallery of views of Bute, although this might be one you know of already. The site also contains some general information about Bute, Madeleine In gloriously sunny Wales

1) Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, and just use the -request@ address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages, thanks 2) Please reply to list on this topic, so I can grab the addresses for the Bute page Peter -----Original Message----- From: Dot@wanet.com.au <Dot@wanet.com.au>; Wells@wanet.com.au <Wells@wanet.com.au> To: Peter Cook <cookfmly@bigpond.com> Date: Sunday, 14 May 2000 12:32 Subject: Bute Photos? >Hello everyone, > >Does anyone know of any sites with photographs or pictures of Bute? I have >found a few, but they mostly have the same pictures on them. > >TIA > >- >Dot Wells (nee Maclean) >Perth, Western Australia. >mailto:wells@wanet.com.au >Research Names >http://carmen.murdoch.edu.au/community/dps/research/wel02.html

A very quiet week, no new members, and only the one post from Martyn mid week. This "slump" seems to be normal at this time of the year - those in the northern hemisphere are busy out doing spring time tasks in the house or garden, while some of us in the southern hemisphere are belatedly cleaning the gutters (not guilty your honour - I did mine at Easter), and battening down the hatches as autumn progresses. Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List owner and Co-host with Barbara < babrown@fast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. List owner of the SCT-RENFREW and SCT-ARGYLL mailing lists.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute?read=360 Surname: Gilkison, Thomson, Cunningham, Baillie, Brown, Stewart, Brown, Robertson, Crawford ------------------------- Looking for information on the above families and their connections. Also any information on a vessel named Iolaire with a John Gilkison as Master. Ann

Does anybody recognise this HIGHGATE famly? My g.grandfather's sister, Isabella TAYLOR, married Hugh HIGHGATE in Rothesay on 20 Jun 1861. He was a master gardener, born at Stair on 4 Jul 1834, and died through choking on a piece of meat in Glasgow on 20 Apr 1888. They had the following children: 1 Julia Orr HIGHGATE (b Rothesay 2 Jul 1861, d young?) 2 Agnes Thomson HIGHGATE (b Helensburgh 10 Jan 1863, domestic servant, seamstress) She married (in Glasgow 6 Jun 1884) George COUPER, iron moulder, and they had children: Julia, James, Johanna, Isabella) 3 Isabella HIGHGATE (b Row 30 Mar 1865, domestic servant, dressmaker) She married (in Glasgow 17 Aug 1893) William Scott MILLER, shipbroker 4 Henrietta HIGHGATE (b Port Glasgow 28 Apr 1867) 5 Robert HIGHGATE (b Govan 4 Sep 1869) 6 Ann HIGHGATE (b Govan 29 Jul 1871, machinist) 7 Elizabeth HIGHGATE (b Govan 3 Sep 1874, capmaker) 8 Hugh HIGHGATE (b Kinning Park 1877) He was a "boy under detention" on HMS Empress Industrial Schol Ship in 1891, at Gareloch on the River Clyde. 9 Julia HIGHGATE (b Kinning Park 1882) Glad to share information. Martyn

Running a little late today, as its Sunday afternoon already :-( Welcome to "Benwick" who has joined recently, and welcome back to Dot Wells. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** It was interesting in the last two days to see that the latest "ILOVEYOU" and variants worm attack rated on all the news services - radio, TV and newspapers, with the correct advice about handling such events. Noticeably, while the experts ensured that their company was identified in the TV pictures, they stressed first the importance of not opening unsolicited attachments, and did not plug their own product but simply referred to purchasing a "recognised" antivirus product and keeping it up to date. ****** ****** ****** Having spent a few days analysing the output from the 1881 Census disks, which I downloaded at the local FHS some time ago, I was wondering about several single "grand-children" in my sample of extracts. From the unmarried state of the known children and the age of the grand-mother, it cannot be discounted that these are possibly late arrival children - makes for interesting research when one considers the generally accepted opposite action, which was to cover up an illegitimate birth of a grandchild by putting out that it was a late arrival child. There was an interesting post on this topic from Alec Cameron to the Lanark list which may be of interest - go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl enter the list name LANARK and use "Alec Cameron" as the search criteria - select the 6/5/2000 message. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List owner and Co-host with Barbara < babrown@fast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. List owner of the SCT-RENFREW and SCT-ARGYLL mailing lists.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute?read=358 Surname: Cook, Mckinnon, Houston, Arthur ------------------------- John Cook married Elspa (Elizabeth) Mckinnon 1788 Kilmory Bute child Mary Cook born c 1800 Thirsken or Kilmory Married John Houston place and date unknown Mary Houston nee Cook died 27 Jan 1844 New Cumnock children James ,Elizabeth,Jennett, Jennett, John, Mary, William, Wilhelminia, Janet.. Wilhelminia marr. Hugh Arthur 1859 New Cumnock then to Victoria, Australia looking for a connection of a Walter Alfred Cook marine engineer who married New Zealand 1849. or any information on above families l

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute?read=357 Surname: MacKirdy, McCurdy ------------------------- Debbie, I also descend from Gilkrist Makuredy and Petheric of the Cairn. As follows: Gilkrist Makuredy, Donald, Donald 2nd, Donald 3rd, Fingal, Donald 4th, Daniel, Petheric,James, Daniel, Robert, David who came to the USA sometime in the very early 1800's. We really have quite the fascinating family. Good Hunting, Suzanne MacKirdy

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Board URL: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute?read=356 Surname: McCurdy, MacKirdy ------------------------- Archie, I have found a reference to a King Muircheartach who was the King of Munster from 1086 to 1114. He supposedly granted our family the Isle of Bute by ancestral right. I am not sure if we are related to him or were just given the Isle out of the goodness of his heart, or because we had been there for quite some time. He shows up in Norse sagas as King Myrkjartan. I have been searching for further evidence of our relation, if any, to this king who happens to be a descendent of Brian Boru(ma). Now wouldn't that be interesting? Let me know if you have any information on this, whether it might be bogus. Thank You, Suzanne MacKirdy

Another worm turns ... the subject of the latest worm message is: ILOVEYOU The body of the message is: kindly check the attached LOVELETTER coming from me. Attached to the message is the file: Love-letter-for-you.txt.vbs DO NOT OPEN DELETE IMMEDIATELY Known variants of this worm: VBS.LoveLetter.B (Lithuania) email subject: "Susitikim shi vakara kavos puodukui..." VBS.LoveLetter.C (Very Funny) email subject: "fwd: Joke" attachment name: "Very Funny.vbs" DO NOT OPEN DELETE IMMEDIATELY For more information, including how to fix it, go to http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/vbs.loveletter.a.html ******************** Safe e-mail practice : 1 DO NOT open unsolicited attachments 2 Invest in a good antivirus program 3 Get your updates regularly (the speed at which these viruses/worms are now coming out - the recommended update time has dropped to once per fortnight) ******************* Reminder : you cannot get this direct from RootsWeb via the list, as attachments are banned and when submitted, are deleted by RootsWeb. Peter Cook List owner SCT-ARGYLL, ButeshireGenWeb and SCT-RENFREW lists

Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, and just use the -request@ address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages, thanks -----Original Message----- From: Marilyn Cameron <camo@standard.net.au> To: ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com <ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 1 May 2000 17:33 Subject: MCVEAN,GRAY >Dear Buteshire Researchers >I am looking for information or family contacts regarding my Great >grandfather John George MCVEAN born 6th July 1847 Bailenacoille, Isle >of Bute. His parents were John MCVEAN born in 1823 Kilmore, Argyle >shire and Catherine Gray born c1826 Bute, North Bute Parish. >Hoping this sounds familiar to someone >Regards >Marilyn Cameron >

Hi everyone Did some searching in the Scots Origin database recently & also got a copy of some LDS OPR's so thought I would pass on some details in case anyone else can use them. I haven't got the SGRO extracts, these are only the basic details that were listed. Hope someone can use them Graeme 1891 Census, Cumbrae, Bute #22252568 Agnes GILLIES, Age 34 #22252756 Catherine GILLIES, 69 #22252944 George GILLIES, 32 #22253049 Janet GILLIES, 32 OPR's, Cumbrae, Bute GIBB Born Alexander, illegitimate son of Alexander GIBB, Sloopmaster (?) and Margaret GLASS (?) at Millport on the 8th March 1847 (?) and baptized in November following ********************* May 29th 1853 There is a purpose of marriage betwixt Duncan MCLAREN & Janet Keith (?) CRAWFORD, both in this Parish for the first, second & third time. The above parties were married on the 3rd June by the Rev Alexander Marshall ******************** June 5th - 12th There is a purpose of marriage betwixt Alex HALL & Mary MCCARTY (? MCLARTY) both in this Parish for 2 Sabbaths. The above parties were married on the 14th June 1853 by the Rev Mr STEEL ******************** June 5th 1853 There is a purpose of marriage betwixt William GILLIES, Parish of Rothesay and Agnes FINNIE in this Parish for the first, second and third time. The above parties were married on the 7th June 1853 by the Rev Rob't STEEL ****************** CAMERON Born Agnes, Daughter of Daniel CMERON, Seaman and Barbara LUSH (?), his spouse at Millport on the 3rd of October 1853 and baptized on the 16th following ****************** LITTLE Born Alfred Bannatyne, son of Neil LITTLE, Shoemaker, Millport and his spouse Margaret LOGAN, at Millport on the 23rd April 1853 and baptized on the 22nd May following by the Rev'd Mr TURNER, Kinnettles (?) ******************** If anyone would like a copy of this page from the OPR's, let me know and I will try to send you one Graeme

MSl29@aol.com wrote: > > Hello everyone > > I recently bought a 1910 postcard showing "the old Saw Mill, Port Bannatyne". > It is a water-driven mill and is in a rural situation. If anyone is > interested I can send a copy as an attachment. > > Madeleine Dear Madeleine I would be most interested to receive the attachment. My interests in the area a re the McMillan family formally from Saddell & Skipness in Kintyre who settled in the Rothesay/Port Bannatyne are circa 1835 Regards Robin Aird robin.aird@mcmail.com

Hello everyone I recently bought a 1910 postcard showing "the old Saw Mill, Port Bannatyne". It is a water-driven mill and is in a rural situation. If anyone is interested I can send a copy as an attachment. Madeleine

Welcome back to Dorothy Martin who has rejoined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Has your ancestral trail led to another County ? The address for the Scottish lists has changed. It is now http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ For other non Scottish lists and name lists start at http://lists.rootsweb.com/ where the headings are now Surnames, USA, International and Other For this (Buteshire) list go to http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/ButeshireGenWeb.html where you will find links to automatically subscribe to List or Digest Mode, and to search or browse the Buteshire Archive. Please note that when the "error" page comes up after following the "browse" Link, just continue on to the Threaded Links pages. ButeshireGenWeb-L IS one of the lists covered by the threaded archive system. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List owner and Co-host with Barbara < babrown@fast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. List owner of the SCT-RENFREW and SCT-ARGYLL mailing lists.

Hi all, I have "tenant of Beleacomb" written on a marriage OPR. The marriage was at Rothesay. Anyone know the location of Beleacomb, I can't see it on my map. Also any other details would be appreciated. Cheers, Sharon

Hi, Anyone have any information on Barmore and/or Barmore Butt around 1770-1800. In case this topic is of interest to someone else this is what I have collected on the topic so far: In 1796, John Lamont is listed as being “of Barmore Butt”. The Rent Rolls do not list John Lamont as he was not a direct tenant of the estate. During the 1780s until 1798, Barmore was tenanted by Archibald MacConechy and his name is the only name recorded in the rent rolls in connection to Barmore. However an inventory of farmhouses prepared in 1782, shows that the North Butt of Barmore was occupied by a John Lamont who was a sub-tenant of MacConechy. The inventory shows that Lamont possessed a dwelling house and byre made from stone and clay which was roofed by thatch. The dimensions were 40 feet by 8 feet wide and there was also a thatched barn at the north east end of the dwelling house. Cheers, Sharon Hawkins

Madeleine, There was obviously a huge amount of nostalgia among the emigrants from Scotland generally. I live in an area of New Zealand that was colonised principally by Scots and although much of the early survey work in the area was done by an Englishman J.T.Thomson, he was attached formerly to Marischal College in Aberdeen as well as Edinburgh University. As the colonisation of this part of the country was funded by the Free Church of Scotland, it is perhaps not surprising that there is a distinct Scottish bias. One Buteman who did however contribute to the spread of names was John Tiffin Stewart, born Rothesay 12.12.1827, graduated as a civil engineer Glasgow. He was involved in surveying on the Victorian goldfields before moving to Auckland NZ. He later became, in 1858, assistant surveyor in the native land purchase dept. of the provincial government. I believe that Rothesay Bay in Auckland was one of his namings. (As I have not been to either bay yet, I cannot give a comparison of their appearances.) One I am certain of however is yet another Mount Stewart, this one near the city of Palmerston North. It is a trig. station named not after himself but after Mountstuart, as the surrounding countryside reminded him of that place. (J.T. was my G. Grandfathers cousin and they corresponded regularly throughout the later part of the 1800s.) Bill McK in NZ

Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, and just use the -request@ address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages, thanks -----Original Message----- From: Betty Candy <bjcandy@ibm.net> To: ButeshireGenWeb-D-request@rootsweb.com <ButeshireGenWeb-D-request@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 22 April 2000 14:33 Subject: Laidlaw name >Is Laidlaw a name common to Bute? I'm researching one Agnes Laidlaw who married David Eaglessham from Dalry probably about 1908. Her birthplace is listed as Rothesay, Scotland. David Eaglesham was killed in WW1 as an Australian Soldier and Agnes and her three daughter, Agnes Clunes/Clunies, Janet Hilhouse and Alice migrated to Australia about 1920. Any help appreciated. >