Hello everyone, Looking through some old copies of The Buteman newspaper, I came across a couple of names that have been mentioned on the list lately. Details of the (separate) items are below in case they are of interest. Death of Mr W A LAIDLAW (Buteman Oct 1 1887) We regret to report the death at Bromley, West London, of the above gentleman who was a native of Rothesay. He was the son of Lieut Laidlaw who was purser on HMS Marshal which was stationed in Rothesay Bay about 70 years ago. She was then under the command of Capt Robert MACKIRDY and Admiral HAY, who lived for many years subsequently in Rothesay and at Ascog was a midshipman, and the late Mr HERBERT, the Procurator Fiscal's father, was a Lieutenant on board of her. Lieutenants Herbert and Laidlaw both married Rothesay young ladies, the Misses MACGREGOR. Mr Laidlaw was bred in the Town Clerk's office here and afterwards was for a time in the service, as clerk, of the Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland." The article goes on to say that Mr Laidlaw retired 10 years ago. He died "rather suddenly" of heart disease, leaving a widow, two sons and one daughter. The second item concerns FARMER. It comes from The Buteman of January 14 1860. Sudden death: On Thursday a woman residing in High Street, while following the avocation of washing clothes, suddenly fell to the ground and in about two hours expired. The deceased was a widow, of the name of Farmer, who supported herself by keeping lodgers. Madeleine

Found that reference to Brandanes and Arran that was was bothering me. The Isle of Bute by Norman S Newton, (Pevensey Island Guides, David and Charles 1999) refers to the writing of Thomas Pennant in the 18th century. Norman Newton says, "Pennant notes that because St Brendan had once built a cell on Bute and used it as a retreat ' the natives of the isle, and also of Arran, have been sometimes styled Brandani - Brandanes'." That was a long time ago of course. Just glad I found the reference, which has been nagging at me! Madeleine

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10540 Surname: BANNATYNE ------------------------- Searching for parents and ancestors of William Ballantine, (according to LDS-FHC) b. 1627 in Ayr, Scotland, cooper. Family records give same as 1632. He appeared in Boston, Mass. Bay Colony abt. 1650 and within 2 years married Hannah Hollard, a dau. of Angel Hollard (shoe maker) and Katherine Richards, prominent citizens, born Weymouth, Eng. This caused some controversy as his family, birthplace, etc. could not be verified by their Puritan contempories and one citizen speculated in private correspondance that Wm. B. was an agent of some kind for the Scottish Catholics and needed to leave the country rapidly. Whatever the truth was, once he arrived in the New World and established a family that contributed its share of Congrgational ministers, missionaries and physicians as well as soldiers. 1st genera- tion included Colonel, 2nd; a Cap't of a militia. All were highly educated. I have his genealogy on this side of the pond but nothing from Scotland. I suspect he may have been one of the Clan Campbell's religious renegade and changed his name a little to be more 'anglized'. Most of this is conjecture but with- out more data, I wont get anywhere.

The exclusion is "Bute" entries for Lanarkshire. "Arran", "Rothesay" etc entries without mention of "Bute" are included. For details of a specific entry please cut and paste the full line into a message with Subject "Bute Strays Lookup" and send to cookfmly@bigpond.com As I am still working, lookups will be done at weekends. NO blanket surname requests, thanks. Surname,Forename,Status,Age,Born,Living in ?,Andrew,U,30,Isle of Arran Bute,Stranraer Wigtown ADAMS,James,-,12,Arran,Monkton & Prestwick Ayr ADAMS,John,W,46,Rothesay Bute,Middle Greenock Renfrew ADAMS,John,-,10,Arran,Monkton & Prestwick Ayr ADAMSON,Ann,W,86,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew AGNEW,Andrew,M,35,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew AGNEW,Ann,W,60,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew AGNEW,Mary,M,27,Rothesay Bute,Eastwood Renfrew AITKEN,Robert,U,21,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh ALEXANDER,Ann,W,59,Rothesay Bute,Uphall Linlithgow ALEXANDER,James,M,24,Rothesay Bute,Eastwood Renfrew ALEXANDER,Jamima,M,22,Rothesay Bute,Eastwood Renfrew ALEXANDER,Jane,W,69,Rothsey Bute,Port Glasgow Renfrew ALEXANDER,Margaret,M,40,Lymamore Bute,Abbey Renfrew ALLAN,David,U,22,Rothesay Bute,Renfrew Renfrew ALLAN,George,U,10,Rothesay Bute,Ayr Ayr ALLAN,James,M,35,Corrie Arran Bute,Largs Ayr ALLAN,James G.,-,5,Rothesay Bute,Cathcart Renfrew ALLAN,Jas.,M,45,Cumbrae Bute,West Greenock Renfrew ALLAN,John,-,18 m,Millport Bute,Largs Ayr ALLAN,John,W,32,Millport Bute,Largs Ayr ALLAN,Lizzie,U,12,Rothesay Bute,Ayr Ayr ALLAN,Robert,U,46,Cumbraes,Glassary Argyll ANDERSON,Ann,U,35,Rothesay,Barony Lanark ANDERSON,Catharine,M,34,Arran Kilbride,Moffat Dumfries ANDERSON or HENDERSON,Catherine,W,60,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh ANDERSON,Elizabeth M.,M,30,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh ANDERSON,Grace,M,50,Millport Bute,Kilmarnock Ayr ANDERSON,Helen,M,43,Cumbrae Millport,Kilmarnock Ayr ANDERSON,Janet,U,16,Killmmany Bute,Tweedsmuir Peeble ANDERSON,Margt.,M,60,Arran Bute,Beith Ayr ANDERSON,Marion,U,40,Rothesay,Barony Lanark ANDERSON,Mary,M,53,Kilbride Bute,Symington Ayr ANDREW,Hellen,M,54,Arran Brodick,Beith Ayr ANDREW,Mary,W,52,Arran Bute,Kilwinning Ayr ANDREW,Mary,U,24,Rothesay Bute,Eastwood Renfrew ANGUS,Agnes L.A.,M,31,Kilmory Bute,Muirkirk Ayr ANGUS,Ann,M,50,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew ANNAN,John,U,14,Rothsay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh ARMOUR,Elizabeth,W,70,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew ASHLEY,Annie,-,10,Rothesay Bute,Dumfries Dumfries AUCHMACKIE,Peter,M,52,Portsay Rothsay ? Banff,Kilwinning Ayr AULD,Mary,M,60,Arran Bute,Kilmarnock Ayr AYTON,Alexander,M,39,Rothsay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BAILLIE,Mary,M,28,Arran Kilmarrie,Dreghorn Ayr BAIRD,Annie,-,8,Kilbride Bute,Irvine Ayr BAIRD,Isabella,W,42,Hormay Bute,Dundonald Ayr BAIRD,James,-,9,Arran Kilbride,Dundonald Ayr BAIRD,Janet,U,15,Arran Kilbride,Dundonald Ayr BAIRD,Mary,-,8,Kilbride Bute,Irvine Ayr BAKER,Mary,M,69,Arran Bute,Dundonald Ayr BALDERSTON,Jane N.,M,36,Rothesay Bute,West Kilbride Ayr BALFOUR,Edith C.,U,16,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BALFOUR,Helen J.,U,17,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BALFOUR,Mary L.,U,19,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BALFOUR,Robina G.,U,21,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BALLANTINE,Mary,M,45,Arran Bute,Dalry Ayr BALLANTYNE,Mary,U,24,Arran,Maryhill Lanark BALLIE,Mary,U,25,Cumbrae Bute,South Knapdale Argyll BALLIE,Thomas,M,60,Cumbrae Bute,South Knapdale Argyll BANATYNE,Isabella,U,71,Rothesay Bute,Liberton Edinburgh BANNATYNE,Alexander,U,21,Kilmory Bute,Dalry Ayr BANNATYNE,Cath.,M,46,Kilmory Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BANNATYNE,Catherine,W,76,Arran Bute,Stevenston Ayr BANNATYNE,Ebenezer,M,54,Kilmorey Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BANNATYNE,Jennet,U,30,Arran Bute,Dundonald Ayr BANNATYNE,John,M,41,Arran Kilmory,Old Cumnock Ayr BANNATYNE,John,M,34,Arran Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARBOUR,Arch.,M,50,Rothesay Bute,Abbey Renfrew BARBOUR,Grace R.,U,22,Rothesay,Galashiels Selkirk BARBOUR,James,-,1,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARBOUR,Jane,W,63,Rothesay Bute,Lochwinnoch Renfrew BARBOUR,John,-,3,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARBOUR,Mary,M,51,Rothesay Bute,Abbey Renfrew BARBOUR,Robert,-,6,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARBOUR,Thomas,M,42,Rothesay Bute,St Quivox Ayr BARBOUR,Thomas,-,4,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARCLAY,Helen,W,80,Arran Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BARCLAY,Helen,W,59,Melport Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BARCLAY,Mary,W,45,Arran Bute,Kilbirnie Ayr BARKER,Margaret,W,57,Arran Lamlash Island Of,Glasgow Lanark BARR,Cathrine,M,44,Kilmorry Bute,St Quivox Ayr BARR,Georgina,U,18,Rothsay Bute,Cathcart Renfrew BARR,Janet,W,57,Arran Kilbride,Glasgow Lanark BARR,Margaret,M,38,Port Bannatyne Bute,Paisley High Church Renfrew BARR,Mary,W,37,Arran Kilmorey Parish ,Glasgow Lanark BATES,Isabella,M,24,Arran Shisken,West Greenock Renfrew BATTY,Barbara L.,U,25,Cumbrae Bute,Annan Dumfries BATTY,Elizabeth,U,23,Cumbrae Bute,Annan Dumfries BAXTER,Jane,M,48,Port Bannatyne Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BAXTER,John,U,21,Rothsay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BAXTER,Margt.,M,56,Millport Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BAXTER,Ninian,M,49,Rothsay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BEATON,Margaret,M,62,N K Bute,Kilbarchan Renfrew BECKET,Catherine,M,41,Arran Bute,Largs Ayr BELL,Duncan,U,5 m,Port Bannatyne Bute,Largs Ayr BELL,Janet Orkney,W,53,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BELL,John,U,24,Rothesay,Glasgow Lanark BELL,Margaret Craig Kerr,M,34,Arran Kilmorey Parish ,Glasgow Lanark BELL,Mary,U,46,North Bute Bute,Inveresk Edinburgh BELL,Richard,M,57,Bute,Kilbarchan Renfrew BENTLY,Alexander,U,25,Rothesay,Paisley Low Church Renfrew BINNIE,Alexander G.,U,14,Bute,Largs Ayr BINNIE,Rachel,M,37,Bute,Largs Ayr BINNIE,Rachel G.,-,6,Millport Bute,Largs Ayr BISSLAND,Isabella,-,11,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BISSLAND,Mary,-,15,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BLAC,Donald,W,83,Arran Lamlash,West Greenock Renfrew BLACK,Alexander,M,29,North Bute Bute,West Kilbride Ayr BLACK,Ann,-,14,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BLACK,Anne,M,59,Arran Kilmorrie,Kirkmahoe Dumfries BLACK,Daniel,M,58,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BLACK,Daniel,M,53,Kingarth Bute,Largs Ayr BLACK,David,U,24,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BLACK,Isabella,M,52,Rothesay Bute,Largs Ayr BLACK,James,M,23,Lamlash Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BLACK,Janet,U,39,Rothesay Bute,Dunbar Haddington BLACK,Janet,U,26,Kingarth Bute,Dalrymple Ayr BLACK,John,M,31,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BLACK,John,U,21,Rothesay Bute,Ardrossan New Ayr BLACK,John,U,20,Lamlash Bute,Whithorn Wigtown BLACK,Lizzie,U,21,Kingarth Bute,Dalrymple Ayr BLACK,Margaret,U,19,Rothesay Bute,Lochwinnoch Renfrew BLACK,Robert,-,14,Rothesay Bute,Largs Ayr BLACK,William,W,56,Bute,Carriden Linlithgow BLACK,William W.,U,22,Kingarth Bute,Port Glasgow Renfrew BLACKBURN,Duncan,M,47,Kingarth Bute,Kirkmaiden Wigtown BLACKSTOCK,George,M,39,Arran,Barony Lanark BLACKWOOD,James,M,42,Aran Brodick ,Govan Lanark BLACKWOOD,Mary,M,56,Crookinvar Bute,Ballantrae Ayr BLAIR,Cathrine,M,34,Arran Bute,Irvine Ayr BLAIR,Hugh,M,44,Millport Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BLAIR,William R.,-,2,Port Bannatyne Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BLAKIE,Mary C.,M,42,Arran Benny Cargan,St Quivox Ayr BLUE,Elizabeth,M,44,Rothesay Bute,Port Glasgow Renfrew BLUE,John,W,41,Rothesay Bute,Ardrossan New Ayr BOA,Isabala,U,26,Arran Isle Of ,Galashiels Selkirk BOGAN,Cecilia,U,15,Rothesay Bute,Paisley High Church Renfrew BOLTON,Margaret,M,32,Rothesay Bute,Port Glasgow Renfrew BONE,Margaret,M,39,Kingarth Bute,Dalry Ayr BORLAND,Elizabeth,M,66,Lamlash Bute,Kilmarnock Ayr BORTHWICK,Elizabeth,-,13,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BORTHWICK,Janet C.,-,39,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BOW,Ann,M,39,Rothesay Bute,Kilbirnie Ayr BOYD,Jean,W,60,Kilmory Bute,Stevenston Ayr BOYD,Jeanie,M,55,Lamlash Bute,Kilwinning Ayr BOYD,Mary,M,54,Arran Bute,Kilbarchan Renfrew BOYD,Mary,M,43,Rothesay Kilmury Bute,Paisley Middle Church Renfrew BOYD,Peter,M,30,Kilmory Bute,Stevenston Ayr BOYES,Thomas,M,41,Millport Bute,New Cumnock Ayr BOYLE,Patrick,U,17,Rothesay Bute,Dalry Ayr BRADLEY,Ann,M,28,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BRATTIN,John,-,10,Kilmorry Bute,Stoneykirk Wigtown BREWSTER,Margret,W,47,Bute,Kilmalcolm Renfrew BRIGGS,Jane,U,66,Arran Brodick,Largs Ayr BRINGAN,Jemima,M,26,Rothesay Bute,Mearns Renfrew BRITTAIN,Mary A.,M,56,Millport Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BRITTON,Cath. Jane,-,4,Rothesay Bute,Cathcart Renfrew BROCK,Mary A. B.,M,35,Rothsay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BRODIE,James R.,-,2,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BRODIE,Thomas W.,-,3 m,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BROTHWICK,Wilhelmina,M,43,Kilmory Bute,West Linton Peeble BROWN,Andrew,M,27,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Angus,U,28,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Archd. Mc F.,U,27,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Archibald,M,64,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Catherine,M,39,Rothesay Bute,Middle Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Catherine,M,38,Loch Ranza Bute,Inverkip Renfrew BROWN,Catherine,M,34,Arran Bute,Edinburgh Canongate BROWN,Charles,U,15,Rothesay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Duncan,M,35,Rothesay Bute,Cathcart Renfrew BROWN,Duncan,M,24,Port Bannatyne Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Duncan,-,12,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Elizabeth,-,7,Rothesay Bute,South Leith Edinburgh BROWN,George H.,M,59,Bute Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,James,M,45,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,James,M,42,Rothsay Bute,East Greenock Renfrew BROWN,James,-,9,Rothesay Bute,Middle Greenock Renfrew BROWN,James,-,5,Rothesay Bute,South Leith Edinburgh BROWN,Jane,M,48,Millport Bute,Innerleithen Peeble BROWN,Jane A.,M,26,Rothesay Bute,Cathcart Renfrew BROWN,Janet,M,44,Arran Kilmorie Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Janet,M,40,Shisken Bute,Irvine Ayr BROWN,Janet,M,30,Bute,Dalry Ayr BROWN,Jessie,-,2,Rothesay Bute,Kilbirnie Ayr BROWN,John,M,52,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,John,M,30,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,John,U,20,Shisken Bute,Irvine Ayr BROWN,Margt.,U,30,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Marion,M,27,Kilmory Bute,Dalmellington Ayr BROWN,Martha,M,26,Kingarth Bute,Dreghorn Ayr BROWN,Martha,-,8,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Mary,W,72,Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Mary,M,61,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Mary,U,35,Arran,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Neil,U,18,Lochranza Bute,Gourock Renfrew BROWN,Robert,U,68,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BROWN,Robert,M,35,Brodick Arran Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BRUCE,Ada C.,M,46,Rothesay,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BRUCE,George D.,-,8,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BRUCE,Jane,U,7,Lamlash Bute,Stranraer Wigtown BRUCE,John,U,9,Lamlash Bute,Stranraer Wigtown BRUNTON,Mary,M,38,I Of Arran Lamlash Bute,Stranraer Wigtown BRYSON,Elisabeth,M,38,Arran Bute,Tarbolton Ayr BRYSON,John,U,-,Arran Bute,Tarbolton Ayr BUCHANAN,Ann,M,50,Arran Isle Of ,Dundonald Ayr BUCHANAN,James D.,U,15,Rothesay Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BUCHANAN,John (Mrs.),W,61,Arran,Kilmarnock Ayr BUNTAIN,Sarah,W,30,Rothesay Bute,West Greenock Renfrew BUNTING,Agnes,U,24,Bute Island Of,Eastwood Renfrew BUNTING,Cathrane,M,5,Bute Island Of,Eastwood Renfrew BUNTING,Elizabeth,U,19,Bute Island Of,Eastwood Renfrew BUNTING,Margrate,U,17,Bute Island Of,Eastwood Renfrew BUNYAN,James,M,32,Co... Bute,Monkton & Prestwick Ayr BURNS,Janet,M,26,Rothesay,Renfrew Renfrew BUSH,Jane Hamilton,M,42,Brodick I Of Arron Bute,St Cuthberts Edinburgh BUTLER,Ruben,U,22,Millport Bute,West Greenock Renfrew

What a labour of love, Peter. Thank you, Jennie (Macfie)

In a message dated 5/21/01 12:02:24 AM GMT Daylight Time, MSl29@aol.com writes: > Another point about Brandanes - as I understand it, to be a true Brandane > not > only must you have been born on Bute, but both your parents too. > > I think I read somewhere that people born on Arran might also be Brandanes, > but I'm not sure about this, > I don't think it is taken terribly seriously. I think that if you were born on Bute then that would make you a Brandane ..... don't think it needed the parents too. Mind you it does take a few generations before you are accepted as a native as opposed to an "incomer" <LOL> Being born on Arran wouldn't make you a Brandane. Irene (5 years on Arran, 15 years on Cumbrae with 6 years at school on Bute .... but luckily born on the mainland!)

Another point about Brandanes - as I understand it, to be a true Brandane not only must you have been born on Bute, but both your parents too. I think I read somewhere that people born on Arran might also be Brandanes, but I'm not sure about this, Madeleine

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10539 Surname: Bannatyne, Taylor, Murchie ------------------------- Hi Sheryl and Eddie, Nice piece of detective work Eddie. We can't be absolutely 100% certain it is the same Jane Bannatyne, of course. Actually the original Kilmory Parish Register (I have viewed the microfiche) records this Jane's birth as 1 February 1821, suggesting that it was wrongly transcribed into the I.G.I. The Parish Register records her christening as 11 February 1821. Anyway, assuming that this was the only Jane Bannatyne born in Kilmory Parish that year.... then her father was a son of Ronald Bannatyne and Jean Taylor. (The fact that Margaret's brother was Ronald is further evidence that she is the ggranddaughter of Ronald Bannatyne. And her mother's name Jane suggests that she (Jane) could be the granddaughter of Jean/Jane.) The family of Ronald Bannatyne and Jean Taylor: Elizabeth Bannatyne d. 1867 (88) (Death Register) m. 8.3.1804 = John McAlister Neil Bannatyne d. 1867 (83) (Death Register) m. 27.8.1812 =Ann Sillars d. 1872 (89) (Death Register) John Bannatyne b. 2.11.1790 chr. 7.11.1790 (Kilmory Parish Register) d. 15.2.1813 (21) (burial stone) Charles Bannatyne b. 30.1.1795 chr. 1.2.1795 (Kilmory Parish Register) Ronald Bannatyne's burial stone includes the following information: Ronald Bannatyne, tenant Feorline, died 25th March 1819 aged 72. Wife Jean Taylor It lies between the graves of my GGGGgrandfather Ebenezer Bannatyne and his father John. As Ronald is a contemporary of Ebenezer's, it is possible that he was a brother of Ebenezer's and therefore a son of John Bannatyne's. Ebenezer Bannatyne was known as Nazer Mhor. He lived in Laigh Feoline according to his children's birth registrations. His grave stone includes: farmer Feorline, died 15th August 1823 aged 74. Wife Marion McKinnon. His (and possibly Ronald's) father's gravestone includes: John Ballantyne, tenant Feorline, died 25th April 1793 aged 76 years. His father was William: William Ballantyne, farmer Laigh Kilpatrick, died February 1753 aged 63 years. We then skip a generation before we get to the original Ronald Bannatyne, who migrated from the nearby Isle of Bute in 1666 according to the folk tradition of the area. He was known as Ronald Ruagh (Red Ronald) and was a tacksman or tennant-in-chief. In 1666 the population of Arran had been somewhat depleted by the Plague, and there was significant inward migration. I am interested in the reference to the Murchies. They intermarried with the Bannatynes quite a lot it seems and I have some in my Bannatyne family tree. Do you have any more information? Hope this is of some use. Cheers Peter PS If anyone out there has any more information about any of the above, I would be delighted to hear from you.

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Further to Jenny's reply, it would seem in times past that the people of Bute were somewhat unwilling to be identified as either highlanders or lowlanders, especially with the more "troublesome" clans of the highland isles. A local identity was probably far more important than a regional or national one. The following is from Blain's 'History of Bute' "Happy in their situation, and contented with the produce of their soil (which was accounted by the natives and admitted by others to be more fruitful than the adjacent Highland countries), they esteemed themselves a separate and distinct people; and, by the same rule, they at this day term themselves Butemen, in contradistinction to both Lowlanders and Highlanders so in a superstitious period they may have chosen to put their country under the protection of Saint Brandane......" Brendon, Brendanus and Brandane seem to be interchangeable. Bill

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10538 Surname: ------------------------- Marylyn, Did you know that there was a Gaelic Singer named Jennie B. Currie who recorded quite extensively in the 1920s and early 1930s, mostly 78rpm records for the Parlophone label? She sang in a rather 'straight', as opposed to 'folky' style. She often recorded duets with Neil MacLean. Jennie won a Gold Medal at the Mod in 1923 and Neil had won a gold medalin 1921. Any Relation? Bill Dean-Myatt

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10537 Surname: Currie, Macdonald, Pearston ------------------------- Marilyn I noticed your inquiry re the Currie family. While searching my fathers (Hamiltons) Isle of Arran connections I had this Currie information given to me, it may be of some interest to you. My Fathers family has links back to the Currie name on Arran, my Grandfather J L Hamilton (born 1859) came to NZ in 1879 from his birthplace Largiebeg, Whiting Bay, Parish of Kilbride Isle Arran., He married a Catherine Alexandra Pearston in NZ. I have research done by a relative which takes us back to -- John Currie (bap. 30-7-1771)[son of Daniel Currie & wife] recorded at Corrierevie( Church records ?) birth approx 1765-1775 married Florence Nicol, same birth period (note shows records blank 1717-1762 They had six children at Bennicarrigan from baptism records Mary bap 5-8-1779, Neil bap 31 Aug 1794, Margaret bap 11 Aug 1799, Elspa bap 28 april 1802, and Catherine Bap 26 aug 1804 (my connection)Catherine Currie 1804-1898 married Alexander MacDonald (of Levencorroch) on 28 July 1831 at Kilmory. They subsquently had seven children one (Janet known as Jessie) who married a William Pearston of Glasgow in 30.4.1860. They had seven daughters and the whole family immigrated to Southland New Zealand. My grandfather married one of this family, Catherine Alexandra Pearston. In my research I have crossed the paths of other Curries from Arran, my fathers uncle James William Hamilton (1836-1897) married Elizabeth Currie in NZ 1865. Eliabeth and her sister Mary Currie came to NZ from Isle of Arran on the ship "New Great Britain" in 1862 I also have read of another family of Currie who also settled in new Zealand. Robert Currie arrived at Dunedin NZ from Arran in 1865. He was a bootmaker, married Mary Gordon of Kilmarnoch Scotland in 1872, then in 1882 took up farming in the Five Rivers area of Southland NZ and descendants still live in the area. The Isle of Arran is part of Buteshire. I hope you might find some information in this note. I would be pleased if you make a connection or can fill in some spaces to hear about it if possible. John Hamilton

-----Original Message----- From: Jennie Macfie <archive@culturalfantasists.co.uk> To: Buteshire List <ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, 19 May 2001 18:08 Subject: {not a subscriber} Brandane >It means "native of Bute" -I think it's after St Brendan >Jennie Macfie > > List Admin Message: If you have two (or more) e-mail addresses, you MUST use the one with which you subscribed for all postings to the list.

Hi Irene, Thanks for your help and suggestions. At 7:46 AM -0400 18/5/01, MrsIMacleod@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 5/18/01 12:30:12 PM GMT Daylight Time, steve@hts.com.au >writes: [snip] > > >> I have a couple of questions.. >> A few these are OPR entries, I would assume that the full extracts >> would not contain a lot more info than the search results, is this >> correct? >> ? > >The two deaths are post 1855 therefore they will be full certificates which >should give you the names of the parents of the deceased. These certificates >can be bought via Scots Origins, or you can pay an Edinburgh based reseacher >to copy them for you, or because they are between 1855 and 1875 you can order >the films of the certificates for these years from your nearest LDS. The LDS sounds like the best option :) > The 1851 >entry I sent you yesterday from the index should give you a parish of birth >for Agnes Glover. Thanks i'll look into it. > >The 1818 marriage entry is an OPR entry and therefore will not have a lot of >information; however if this is your direct line it is always worth looking >it up on the OPR film from your nearest LDS, just in case you get lucky. Yes this is what i thought. > >Your John is not mistranscribed in the index as Former..... presumably he was >somewhere other than Bute. Ahh yes sorry, both the marriage to Agnes Glover and birth of Agnes are at Neilston, Renfrew. > >Irene > I am wondering if there are any farmers at Rothesay today, I presume that the scottish phone books are online so i'll try to check there. Thanks again, Steve Farmer -- --------------------------------------------------- Researching Farmer Family history http://www.farmergroup.com/ Sydney, NSW, Australia Email: steve@hts.com.au Tel: +612 9982 6767 Fax: +612 9981 3081 Visit our Web Site at http://www.hts.com.au/ Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.

Hi everyone, I have found out a bit more information on the Farmers sojourn at Rothesay... John Farmer... Birth, 1803 , place unknown. There are about 3 or 4 possibilities in Scotland. Death, 1869, Aged 66, Rothesay, SI #13112738 from GRO Marriage... 31 Dec 1818, Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland (his name is mistranscribed as Former), OPR #6656590 - GRO Spouse... Agnes Glover... Birth ?? Death, 1860, Rothesay, SI #10879073 from GRO Children .. Agnes, 26 Sep 1824, Neilston William, 1834, Rothesay I have a couple of questions.. A few these are OPR entries, I would assume that the full extracts would not contain a lot more info than the search results, is this correct? Any other suggestions as to how i can proceed here ? Thanks Steve Farmer -- --------------------------------------------------- Researching Farmer Family history http://www.farmergroup.com/ Sydney, NSW, Australia Email: steve@hts.com.au Tel: +612 9982 6767 Fax: +612 9981 3081 Visit our Web Site at http://www.hts.com.au/ Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10534 Surname: Duncan, Campbell, Reid, Williams ------------------------- As a third generation of birth in Rothesay i have been told that i may use the title Brandane What does it mean?

In a message dated 5/18/01 12:30:12 PM GMT Daylight Time, steve@hts.com.au writes: > John Farmer... > Birth, 1803 , place unknown. There are about 3 or 4 possibilities in > Scotland. > Death, 1869, Aged 66, Rothesay, SI #13112738 from GRO > > Marriage...31 Dec 1818, Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland (his name is > mistranscribed > as Former), OPR #6656590 - GRO > > Spouse... > Agnes Glover... > Birth ?? > Death, 1860, Rothesay, SI #10879073 from GRO > Children .. > Agnes, 26 Sep 1824, Neilston > William, 1834, Rothesay > > I have a couple of questions.. > A few these are OPR entries, I would assume that the full extracts > would not contain a lot more info than the search results, is this > correct? > ? The two deaths are post 1855 therefore they will be full certificates which should give you the names of the parents of the deceased. These certificates can be bought via Scots Origins, or you can pay an Edinburgh based reseacher to copy them for you, or because they are between 1855 and 1875 you can order the films of the certificates for these years from your nearest LDS. The 1851 entry I sent you yesterday from the index should give you a parish of birth for Agnes Glover. The 1818 marriage entry is an OPR entry and therefore will not have a lot of information; however if this is your direct line it is always worth looking it up on the OPR film from your nearest LDS, just in case you get lucky. Your John is not mistranscribed in the index as Former..... presumably he was somewhere other than Bute. Irene

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/10533 Surname: JAMES ------------------------- Am searching for the family of John JAMES who married Eliza Maude LOVELOCK and thought to have originated at Kilmory. Later family went to New Zealand. Thanks for any leads

Hi all, I have found out some more details & dates regarding my Farmer Ancestors from Bute. William Farmer was born in 1834 at Isle of Bute, Lanarkshire. Father John Farmer, occupation Cotton Spinner Mother Agnes Farmer nee Glover. Immigration records state that in 1855 John and Agnes reside at Rothsay, Isle of Bute. It seems most likely that they were Presbyterians since William and his Wife are both buried in Presbyterian cemeteries. Their immigration records from Australia in 1885 list their religion as "C of E", that seems to have been true for most of the people on the register !! I guess the best place to start is the census records, can anyone suggest other avenues of research? Thanks Steve Farmer -- --------------------------------------------------- Researching Farmer Family history http://www.farmergroup.com/ Sydney, NSW, Australia Email: steve@hts.com.au Tel: +612 9982 6767 Fax: +612 9981 3081 Visit our Web Site at http://www.hts.com.au/ Minds are like parachutes, they work best when open.

Hi everyone Just found this message on another rootsweb list and the couple have possible Buteshire names. Do they belong to anyone? /cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall" <marshag@home.com> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:31 AM Subject: [Can-Ont-Simcoe] McBeth/MacBeth Family > Hi All, > > I am researching the McBeth/MacBeth Family which moved in 1819 from the Red River Settlement in Manitoba to West Gwillimbury Township, Simcoe County along with about 120 other Scots including, the Sutherlands, McKays and Mathesons. Many of the original settlers are buried in the Auld Kirk Church cemetery just West of Bradford. Included in this group was one Charles W. McBeth (McBeath), b. 1798, d. 1883, and his wife, Christina Gunn, b. 1802, d. 1885. They had nine children. > > If anyone has the MacBeths in their tree and would like to compare notes, please contact me privately. > > Thanks, > > George Marshall > marshag@home.com > > ______________________________