Welcome to Margaret and to Carole who have joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Pigot & Co Scotland 1825 Directory on CD This five CD set from http://www.archivecdbooks.com is split into 5 sections: 0201 Central East 0202 Southern Highlands 0203 Highlands 0204 Central 0205 Southern The CD which covers Buteshire (Bute, Arran and Cumbrae) is the Southern Highlands CD - this also covers the shires of Argyll, Perth, Forfar, Kincardineshire and Stirling. In addition it contains two files which are repeated on each of the other CD's : "Nobility, Gentry and Clergy", and a "Map of Scotland". {I have listed the contents of the other CD's at the end} Ease of Use : The CD requires Adobe Acrobat 4.0 (which is available for free download from the Adobe site for anyone who doesn't already have it), and it is simply a matter of putting the CD into the drive and the autorun file boots up Acrobat for you. Contents: The standard Acrobat split screen shows the Main Counties on the left, and the scanned page images on the right. On clicking on Bute in the main index, the Bute index is displayed. This covers Buteshire; Isle of Arran; Milport, Isle of Cumbrae; and Rothesay - checking the thumbnail (page outlines) shows that the information is on just five pages from 288 to 292. The section on Buteshire which takes up the first page, covers the entire county in of necessity some brevity, concluding with a table of Houses, Males, Females for the parishes of Cumbrae, Killbride, Kilmory, Kingarth and Rothesay, plus the Burgh of Rothesay. The remaining sections follow the standard Pigot directory format of Description, Post Office details; Institutions; Nobility, Gentry and Clergy; Merchants & Tradespeople, etc; and Shipping details. Arran and Cumbrae take about 2/3 of a page each, while Rothesay takes up just over two pages of which over a page is the merchant list. One ArchiveCD books feature which has not been implemented on this set of CD's due to the font size, is the Acrobat Search feature, however this is not a problem with the list sizes for Bute - might make searching say Glasgow a bit of a chore though. ##### ##### ##### The other CD's cover the following shires/areas: Central East : Edinburgh & Leith; Fife; Haddington; Kinross; Linlithgow Highlands: Aberdeen; Banff; Caithness; Elgin (Moray); Inverness; Nairn; Orkneys; Ross & Cromarty; Sutherland Central: Ayr; Clackmannan; Dumbarton; Lanark; Renfrew Southern: Berwick; Dumfries; Kirkudbright; Peebles; Roxburgh; Selkirk; Wigton [Note: The full set is available at a discount as item 0206] If you have interests in Edinburgh or Glasgow or at least two counties on a CD, then purchase of just that CD might be worthwhile, but for one County you could be better off talking your local society into purchasing the set, perhaps with the sweetener of a contribution towards the cost. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown@fast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wright, Dougherty, Mason, Dalton, McGuinness, McLindon, Markey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/433.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thankyou Chris so much for that. That gives me parent's names which is so helpful. I'm still not sure if this is them. They had a son William Ralston and daughter Jane Ralston Wright so I need to still find their parents records to link them. Thankyou very much again.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/433.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Liz, Here is the entry for the marriage record: MARRIAGE:Parish of Rothesay,Isle of Bute. William WRIGHT,Grocer,Rothesay,son of Robert Wright,Merchant there,and Jeannie RALSTON,daughter of the late William Ralston,Merchant,Follcrop(or something like that).Booked 27 April 1850,and married 30 April 1850. I've checked the Index for the 1851 Census for Bute,and neither of these two were listed as being there. Hope this is the couple you're looking for. Regards,Chris.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LOGAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/436 Message Board Post: I'd greatly appreciate any information about members of the Logan family resident in Rothesay in the mid to late 1800s.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wright, Dougherty, Mason, Dalton, McGuinness, McLinden, Markey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/433.1 Message Board Post: A Jean (Jeanie) Ralston and William Wright were married at Rothesay, Bute on 30 April 1850 but I don't know if this was my grandparents (of exactly the same names). They lived in the Argyll/Bute/Glasgow area and also in Strabane, Ireland where her mother also owned land. He was a cattle dealer between Scotland and Ulster. Their son William Ralston Wright b. 31/3/1853 and his wife Katherine Jean Dougherty b. 1854 Ballycassidy Co. Fermanagh were also married in Glasgow about 1880 but were from Ireland so there is some family link there. There was a sister Jane (who incidentally) married Ned (Katherine's brother). I would appreciate it so much if anyone can help me. I am in Australia and have exhausted all leads here. Thanks very much.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sillars, Currie, McAlister Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/393.408 Message Board Post: Hi, what info do you have on John Sillars, Lochranza? My Sillars seem to be from mostly the Machrie area but trying to establish if any moved, have names but no locations of some ancestors

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/368.1 Message Board Post: I also have Haig and Colledge ancestors from my mothers side of the family. They also resided in Rothsay, Isle of Bute. My great grand mother was Helen Haig, born 8 May 1870 and her father, my great great grandfather was Walter S L Haig. born 5 April 1840, hewas married to Margaret Reid on 4 Jan 1865. Walter and Margaret had 8 children named Andrew Haig b 5 Jan 1865, John Reid Haig b 18 Jul 1866, ?Haig b 6 Dec 1867, Helen Haig(my great grand mother) Robert Thomson Haig b 6 Aug 1871, Thomas Haig b 4 Mar 1873, William C L Haig b 1875 and Jane Haig b 1880. Walters parents were Andrew Haig and Jane Colledge and they married on 17 June 1821 at Milmory, Rothesay. Janes parents were Thomas Colledge and Janet Leyden. I am also trying to find out more about these families, if you can help, please Email me or write to me, my address is 24 Alba Way, Hamilton, Scotland ML3 7QT. Regards Colin Easton

I have details of a census entry for 1881 of an Isabella Robertson 35 fisherman's wife married (not a widow so the husband may have been away fishing); Malcolm 5, son b. Campbelltown; daughters Mary 3 and Isabella 1; plus father law Duncan Robertson 75. This family was living in N Newton, Bute, Argyll. If anyone can do a lookup for me I would like to find out where the family was in 1871 or more interesting 1891 and also what the father's name is. Also is anyone researching this family. Thank you Margaret Australia.

Welcome to Carol Post who has joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** While of limited direct Buteshire value, this site http://www.197aerial.com , posted originally to the Ayrshire List, does have one long distance view of Arran in the background at http://www.awm197.demon.co.uk/general_1.htm For those with interests in photography, definitely worth a browse. ****** ****** ****** Ian Murray had this to say about the W32.Nimda.A@mm Virus warning issued earlier in the week ... "You'll know if you have got it by the huge and increasing number of files appearing on your hard disk, Desktop and Start Menu ending with the extension .eml and/or .nms. How not to get it. If you look at a web page and it tells you to download a file called Readme. Don't. Close your browser immediately and don't go back there for a few days." Thanks Ian ****** ****** ****** Madeleine sent this in regarding the "Sons & Daughters" site mentioned a while back ... " ... I see that the Bute "Sons and Daughters" site is up and running. The address is http://www.isle-of-bute.com/sons&daughters/start.htm but there is also a link off the Isle of Bute site. I have only had a quick look, but at present perhaps one of the most interesting features for members of the Bute list is the list of farmers taken from The Farmers of Bute for Sixty Years and Beyond, published 1951." Thanks Madeleine Having taken a quick browse myself, another useful page has a table of the Population of the Island from 1801 to 1971. Enjoy. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown@fast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

If you intend to reply to the message by using the link, please use this one : http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/433 as the duplicated message has been deleted from the board.. Peter List Maintainer & board Admin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/435 Message Board Post: I have been told cousin Raydon Kelso Cox died 27 Jan 1948 and buried Lamlash,Isle of Arran.Can anyone confirm please? Ray was born 1888 Australia, married Jessie Wilson Mathie.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wright, Dougherty, Mason, Dalton, McGuinness, McLindon, Mackey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/434 Message Board Post: My great great grandparents were landowners there and in Ireland. They had a son William Ralston Wright, Strabane, Tyrone born 1853 and a daughter Jane. William married Katherine Dougherty of Ballycassidy and Jane married Katherine's brother Ned. They immigrated to New Zealand about 1882. Any help you could give me would be very much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Wright, Dougherty, Mason, Dalton, McGuinness, McLindon, Mackey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/433 Message Board Post: My great great grandparents were landowners there and in Ireland. They had a son William Ralston Wright, Strabane, Tyrone born 1853 and a daughter Jane. William married Katherine Dougherty of Ballycassidy and Jane married Katherine's brother Ned. They immigrated to New Zealand about 1882. Any help you could give me would be very much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HAMILTON CUMMING Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/432 Message Board Post: Does anyone know anything about a rope-making business, owned by ? Hamilton, my g.grandfather? I know very little of this side of the family, except that they came from Glasgow, so I assume that this business would probably have been located in this area. I do not know when the business was begun or when it ended, but it was in operation during the 1950s`. I believe it was carried on by his sons. I would dearly love to know the first names of my g.grandparents. Their children were, Jim, William, Mary, Anne, Elizabeth, Jenny, John, Harry, Catherine and Meg. I believe Jenny`s only child Jack, was lost at sea during WW2. My grandmother, Anne, was born in 1888.

>From a new Subscriber having a little trouble posting to the list ... -----Original Message----- From: Caroljpost@aol.com <Caroljpost@aol.com> To: buteshiregenweb-l-request@rootsweb.com <buteshiregenweb-l-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: McCaw family >Any information on a John Mc caw who married Elspeth Stewart in Rothesay on >27 Feb 1695. Thank You >Carol Post > >

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Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, and just use the -request@ address for subscribe and unsubscribe messages, thanks -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Macleod <macleod@netconnect.com.au> To: ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com <ButeshireGenWeb-L-request@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, 17 September 2001 13:10 Subject: Rothesay Burial >Hello Everyone, > I am a new subscriber, My name is Margaret MacLeod (nee >NICOLSON). I lived in Rothesay when I was very small. My mother's name >was Agnes Murie NICOLSON (nee SMITH). She worked in an hotel named >" BELLTREES". She died around 1945-47. I am not sure whether she was >actually buried in Rothesay or taken to Glasgow. Would anyone be able >to help me as to where I could some some information? Thank you >Margaret. > > >

I have just found the description of Bute Industrial School that Robert Lyons was asking for and thought that there might be other people on the list who might be interested in this particular 19th century institution in Rothesay. The quotation is from a letter from a friend who lives in Rothesay. I had discovered mention of the school while combing through old copies of The Buteman. "It is strange that the Ragged School has caught your eye. It opened in 1857 in the High Street (opposite side of the road to where the present Police Station is sited and a little higher up) and moved in 1862 to Colbeck Place--corner of Russell Street and Mill Street. One of the councillors .... [can't read friend's writing] information recently as there is a move about to pull down the building. It was "for orphan children, and a school of correction for those not amenable to school discipline"--sometimes called the Reform school (shades of a Borstal), but commonly known as the Ragged School. The school closed in 1893. In 1862 there were 64 boys and 30 girls on the roll. The school soup kitchen provided a hot daily meal for children of nearly 50 families. There seems to have been an active houseladies' committee involved. In 1879 there were 90 boys and 45 girls on the roll. The timetable is interesting: 6-8am Wash, dress. Senior boys & girls clean the house 8-9am Breakfast, worship, play 9-12noon Half school under instruction, 1/4 in play, 1/4 working noon-2pm Dinner, play 2-6pm Half under instruction, 1/4 play, 1/4 working 6-6.30pm Supper 6.30-7pm Worship 7-8.30pm Preparing lessons 8.30-9pm Preparing for bed "Quite a full day. There are accounts of concerts, picnics, etc. Earnings of pupils came from tailoring, sewing, laundry, gardening, shoe repairing and making, splitting wood, running errands. "Many of the pupils emigrated to South Africa and wrote back to the Headmaster or to other pupils." Pat Jeffs Buckinghamshire England Pat.Jeffs@btinternet.com

Peter, A little while ago I went through the indexes of Services of Heirs & picked out the ones for Buteshire. These two seem, in some way, to belong to you. Arran definitely is part of Buteshire but as none of my ancestors were from there, I have not studied that island at all. Heir Served. Detail Date Served Monthly Number Stewart – John To his Mother Christian McDouall (Wife of James Stewart of Quochay) who died January 1712 – heir Special in Kildonan, etc. in Arran with the Isle of Plodda – Buteshire – dated 29th September 1713 1714 July 1 1 Stewart – Janet Widow of Archibald Stewart, Late Surveyor of Customs in the Island of Cumbray, to her Brother John Stewart of Kildonan, who died June 1735 – Heir Special, in Kildonan in Arran, with the Isle of Pladda – Buteshire – dated 12th January 1764 1764 Feb. 21 14 Cheers Bill

Hello Folks, I have recently discovered 2 more daughters (and possibility of a 3rd) and new surname connections to my SMITH family of Lamlash, Kilbride Parish, Arran. George SMITH, Sr., b1802 Kilmaurs, Ayrshire, d1893 Lamlash, Kilbride Parish, Arran m 1st, 1828 Lamlash, Margaret CUNNINGHAM, b1804 Irvine, Ayrshire, d 1831 Lamlash, Kilbride. m 2nd, c1833 assume Lamlash, Janet NISBET, b1808 Blantyre, Lanarkshire, d1898 Lamlash, Kilbride. Newly discovered children of George SMITH and Janet NISBET: (1) Margaret "Maggie" SMITH, bc1839 Lamlash, d unknown but after 1894, m 1st, 1863 Lamlash, John MANSON, school teacher/master, b1833 Stewarton, Ayrshire, d 1868, after the 19th February, Kilbride Parish, Arran, though usual residence was Stewarton, Ayr, s/o John MANSON and Jane "Jean" WILSON. Margaret "Maggie" SMITH m 2nd, 1873 Lamlash, Kilbride, William Cunningham CLARK, mariner, b1832 Dundonald, Ayrshire, d1891 Irvine, Ayrshire, s/o David CLARK and Mary CUNNINGHAM. Mary CUNNINGHAM, mother of William Cunningham CLARK, was sister to the above Margaret CUNNINGHAM, 1st wife of George SMITH. They were daughters of William CUNNINGHAM and Jane "Jean" DEAN of Irvine Parish, Ayrshire. (2) (pending arrival of certificate) Catherine Paterson SMITH, bc1843 Lamlash, d1914 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, m 1871 Lamlash, Kilbride, Edward Hughes RONALD, draper, b1831 Ary, Ayrshire, d1902 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, s/o Hugh RONALD and Eloise HUGHES. (3) possibility - a Helen SMITH was a witness to 1st marriage of Margaret "Maggie" SMITH in 1863 in Lamlash. I cannot find anything else about her though. I suspect that she could be another daughter since Janet NISBET's grandmother was also a "Helen" SMITH. Connections Anyone? Kind Regards, Pat McCabe Ontario, Canada