The "Book of Arran" (Vol 2) is almost unhelpful on this topic ... "Some at least of the Murchies were Murphys in original; on a Kilmorie tombstone the erector is afterwards recorded as being buried, and his name is in one case Murphy, in the other Murchie, the latter after he was dead." The seven Murchie/Murphy entries for Kilmorie in "Pre - 1855 Gravestone Inscriptions in Bute and Arran" throw no more light on the date. Murphie 1819 (changed from Murchie to Murphie) Murphy 1829 Murchie 1829, 1844, 1864, 1866 Murphy 1873 (This one is changed from Murchy to Murphy) One possible explanation for the change, is the proximity to Ireland where "Murphy" is prevalent; the other more likely explanation is related to the educational background of whoever was recording the names in the registers. Regards Peter Cook List maintainer ButeshireGenWeb-L

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/554 Message Board Post: I am searching for information on Colonel Stuart (first name not known) who was born about 1690, had two sons and went to England. He was supposed to have been a cadet of the Stuart of Bute family and later in his career may have been Governor of Hurst Castle in Hantshire, England. One of his sons, Robert Stuart (my ancestor) became a shipwright at the Royal Dockyard in Woolwich, Kent, England. The other son married into a family in Shropshire, England. Any information on Colonel Stuart or his son who went to Shropshire would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/553 Message Board Post: I would like to know, when the Stuart of Bute Family changed the spelling of their name from "Stewart" to "Stuart" and which member of the family used the motto"Avito Viret Honore" for the first time in his armorial achievement. Can anyone help with these questions please?

No new members this week. Your list hosts noticed a 'blanket' single surname request posted earlier this week. This type of post is often counter productive, and we DO NOT encourage subscribers to resort to this method. If one has not had any luck with a detailed request to this list, please remember that this is only a small geographical area list with an equally small (but loyal) group of subscribers, so a better response may be obtained from the specific surname list (but NOT if the same 'blanket' approach is used). As always, if you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon - the notes below may help ... ****** ****** ****** Apart from requests for the odd look up, or to see if anyone else is researching the same family, there are numerous topics - directly related to family history and the islands which make up pre 1974 Buteshire - which are open to List discussion. Topics such as civil registration & parish registers (or lack of - either/both registers and registration), non conformist churches (and their records), apprenticeships, how census were conducted, why some Buteshire towns/villages/farms prospered (or not), modes of travel , militia/ naval service, activities around the Islands i.e on the water, naming conventions, etc, etc, etc.- the possibilities are almost endless. These topics will be of interest to many Listers, as they help to add meat to the bare bones of names & dates. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murphy/Murchie, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/482.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hello I have been tracing my Murchie roots in Scotland and have found that the family name changed from Murphy to Murchie in the late 19th Century. I have plenty of evidence of this but not the reason. Could anyone help me out ?? Duncan Murchie

I would like info on the TAYLOR family (past or present) from Buteshire and esp from the Isle of Arran (northern part)(spent summers there) Looking for the relatives of Neil or John or Donald Taylor and also may be relatives of Neil or John or Donald CLARK/E are they buried there? they should be on the 1841 1851 1861 1871 1881 1891 1901 census thanks audrey Bowne Seattle gregbowne@earthlink.net

I have been updating the site over the last week and it now holds - 9,383 Births 7,116 Deaths 5,835 Marriages 2,967 Baptisms 296 Burials 1,168 Banns 26,765 records in total Regards Sue www.sctbdm.com

Welcome to Phil Young who has joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** OK, the question last week was "What relation to me is my grand daughter's mother's mother-in-law" Solution 1 if the question is posed by a male and the grand daughter's mother is not his daughter, then the answer is "wife" 2 if the question is posed by a female and the grand daughter's mother is not her daughter, then the answer is "self" 3 irrespective of gender of questioner, if the grand daughter's mother is their daughter, then "no relation" FWIW the quiz answer was given as #3 So while we can sure of true blood relationships that go back to a common ancestor, then forward in time, we must be a lot more careful with any that jump forward to a common descendent then back in time. Nieces and nephews are another example of this need for caution - as they are often found as the informant in death entries, or as being resident during a census - but if the surname differs, which side are/were they on ? Can you give any interesting relationships from among your Bute ancestors? ****** ****** ****** NB - I haven't had time to visit this site, but there may be something there for you ... New Scottish CDs available - Family History Scotland The following CDs are now available to purchase online. Greenock Post Office Directory 1906 Paisley and Johnstone Commercial Directory 1848 Lothians Trade Directory 1878 Southern Counties Trade Directory 1878 Central Counties Trade Directory 1878 Lanarkshire Trade Directory 1878 Counties of Scotland Trade Directory 1878 Peebles Burgh Records 1652-1714 Coming Soon......1912 County Directory of Scotland ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Hello Edward, In the Preface to the book: While the impressions of the Great War are still fresh in the memories of those who have lived through the eventful time, it seems fitting that some permanent record should be made of these impressions. It is also due to the memory of the men who have gone through the great ordeal, to preserve a record of their services, particularly of those who have made the supreme sacrifice--"They went forth to the battle and never came back." Knowing the greater number of the lads personally, this compilation has been a work of pleasure; but I regret that in all cases I did not succeed in obtaining as many particulars as I would have liked, so that where details are somewhat meagre, it is not due to lack of effort., THE AUTHOR [James C. Inglis] Invbercloy, Brodick, 29th March 1919 The Introduction to the books tells about the Island (Arran) during the war, then goes on to list the servicemen and women.....some with more detail than others. I have just done a search of Abebooks http://www.abebooks.co.uk/ and found that it was reprinted in 2002 and available from bookshops in Sussex and Surrey :-) There is also a better description of it. Cheers, Ruth Adelaide, South Australia ----- Original Message ----- Would it be possible to explian a little more on the background and title of the book please? It seems very interesting and thank you for posting it. edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Part 2 of part 2 ... -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Broad <mbroad@chariot.net.au> To: Buteshire <ButeshireGenWeb-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:27 Subject: Surname Index to Brodick-Arran and the Great War 1916-1918,James C. INGLIS, 1919 - M to Z >Cont'd: >Page NoName >124NAIRN, Lieut-Com. J., Shiskine >80NATHAN, Sir Matthew, Ardeer >116NEIL, Pte P., Shiskine >103NICOL, Donald Brown, New South Wales, Australia >123NICOL, Engr-Lieut A.R., Whiting Bay >29NICOL, James H., A.B. >29NICOL, James, Cladoch >78NICOL, James, Douglas Row >69NICOL, James, Glasgow [x2] >78NICOL, James, Glasgow [x2] >114NICOL, Pte J., Corrie >111NICOL, Pte P., Southend and Kildonan >114NICOL, Pte, W. Whiting Bay >103NICOL, The late Archibald, New South Wales, Australia >109NOTMAN, John, Brodick >116ORR, Pte H., Lochranza >119PAISLEY, Pte T., Whiting Bay >93PATERSON, Staff-Sergeant Saddler John >115POOLE, Cpl J.N.S., Whiting Bay >114POTTS, Pte W., Lamlash >112PURDIE, Pte A., Shiskine >124PURDIE, Pte R., Shiskine >91REBBECK, Allan >120REID, Gnr, John, Southend and Kildonan >57REID, Hugh Miller >118REID, L-Cpl J., Corrie >118REID, L-Cpl John, Southend and Kildonan >114REID, Pte John, Southend and Kildonan >54, 57REID, Thomas, Schoolmaster, Brodick >53RESIDE, Corporal George >53RESIDE, John, Glasgow, late of Brodick >118RESIDE, Pte D., Shiskine >68RIBBECK, Adolph, Invercloy >80RIBBECK, Donald, Glasgow >69RIBBECK, Ernest Hope, Glasgow >90RIBBECK, Gunner Charles, Glasgow >68RIBBECK, Henry, Glasgow >83RIBBECK, Henry, Invercloy >90,91,93RIBBECK, Henry, senior, Invercloy >69RIBBECK, John, Glasgow >68,86,110RIBBECK, Kasper, Invercloy >80RIBBECK, Peter C.W. >69,80RIBBECK, The late Ernest, Invercloy >108RICHARDS, Lieutenant P.C., Town Clerk of Barkly West >76RICHER, Major F.A. >76RICHER, Major Stanley >111RITCHIE, Pte F.J., Shiskine >115ROBERTSON, Capt. S.D., Lamlash >120ROBERTSON, Cpl W., Shiskine >115ROBERTSON, Dvr A., Shiskine >88ROBERTSON, Lieutenant Guy B. >58,71ROBERTSON, Misses, Pollokshields, Glasgow & Millburn, Lamash >120ROBERTSON, Pte C., Pirnmill >115ROBERTSON, Pte D., Pirnmill >114ROBERTSON, Pte J., Pirnmill >119ROBERTSON, Pte N., Pirnmill >116ROBERTSON, Pte R., Pirnmill >116ROBERTSON, Pte R., Pirnmill >27ROBERTSON, Robert >88ROBERTSON, The Right Honourable John MacKinnon >22ROGERS, Nurse >110ROSS, James >116ROUGH, Pte W., Lamlash >49ROWAN, Messrs David & Co, Glasgow >123RUSSELL, O.S., C., Corrie >116RYRIE, L-Cpl A., Whiting Bay >111SAUL, Pte D., Lamash >119SAUL, Pte W., Lamlash >119SAUL,, Pte J., Lamlash >117SHARP, Gnr. J.A.C., Lamlash >93SHAW Neil, Glasgow >93SHAW Neil, Portpatrick >111SHAW, A., Whiting Bay >124SHAW, Gnr D.R., Whiting Bay >116SHAW, Pte N., Whiting Bay >119SHAW, Pte W., Southend and Kildonan >93SHAW, The late Robert, Douglas Row >122SHIELS, Pte J., Lamlash >92SILLARS, Alexander, 2nd Air Mechanic >88SILLARS, Archibald, Kilmichael >114SILLARS, Capt J., Lamlash >67SILLARS, Corporal John >88SILLARS, Driver Archibald >95SILLARS, Driver Neil >91SILLARS, John, West Mayish >121SILLARS, Lieut M., Lamlash >121SILLARS, Lieut N., Lamlash >91SILLARS, Lieutenant Victor >81SILLARS, Mrs Archibald, Kilmichael >48,55SILLARS, Robert, East Knowe >55,67,92,95SILLARS, Robert, East Knowe >48SILLARS, Sergeant Norman >123SIMPSON, Engr. T., Corrie >114SINCLAIR, Cadet J., Lamlash >117SINCLAIR, Pte J., Shiskine >119SINCLAIR, Pte J., Shiskine >116SINCLAIR, Pte M.D., Lamlash >54SKELTON, Andrew Watson >48SKELTON, John >48SKELTON, The late John, Low Glencloy >54SKELTON, The late John, Low Glencloy >113SKILLEN, Dvr J., Pirnmill >113SKILLEN, Dvr M., Pirnmill >95SMITH, Angus >95SMITH, Archibald, Douglas Row >108SMITH, Mrs D. >113SPIERS, Gnr R.A., Slidderie >112SPIERS, Pte A., Slidderie >122SPIERS, Pte R.H., Slidderie >122SPROWL, Cpl J., Southend and Kildonan >111SPROWL, L-Cpl T., Southend and Kildonan >113STEEL, Lieut. H., Shiskine >117STEVENSON, Cpl W., Lamlash >124STEWART, 3rd Engr J., Slidderie >66STEWART, Archie >121STEWART, Dvr J., Slidderie >113STEWART, Farrier John, Shiskine >117STEWART, Gnr D., Lamlash >113STEWART, Gnr D., Slidderie >117STEWART, Pte ., Shiskine >112STEWART, Pte A., Lamlash >116STEWART, Pte C., Slidderie >116STEWART, Pte D., Shiskine >111STEWART, Pte G., Shiskine >116STEWART, Pte J., Slidderie >112STEWART, Pte N.F., Lamlash >21STEWART, Sister Catherine >35,66STEWART, The late John, Invercloy >35STEWART, William, Douglas Row >118STIRLING, Pte C. Lamlash >122STIRLING, Pte J., Lamlash >119STORIE, Pte Samuel, Southend and Kildonan >119STORIE, Pte Stewart, Southend and Kildonan >112SUTHERLAND, Pte D., Lochranza >118SUTHERLAND, Spr D., Lochranza >121SWEET, Capt R., Lamlash >107SWEET, James Inglis, Australian Light Horse >107SWEET, John B, banker, Lamash >119SWEET, Lieut. J.B., Lamlash >120SWEET, Sgt J. Inglis, Lamlash >115SYM, Pte A., Shiskine >102TAYLOR, James Finlay, Melbourne, Australia >102TAYLOR, James, Glasgow merchant, Strathwhillan >113TAYLOR, Staff-Sgt A., Whiting Bay >109TELFER, Harry, Rowan Bank >113THOMSON, Bom. J., Whiting Bay >124THOMSON, Gnr J., Whiting Bay >111THOMSON, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >119THOMSON, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >115THOMSON, Pte D., Shiskine >`120THOMSON, Pte Jas., Pirnmill >124THOMSON, Seaman H., Pirnmill >118THOMSON, Sgt A., Lamlash >118THOMSON, Spr. D., Whiting Bay >118TIERNEY, L-Cpl J., Corrie >121TROW, Pte P., Lamlash >108WAKEFORD, Charles, South Africa >108WAKEFORD, George, Mayor of Barkly West >89WALKER, Gunner Thomas >111WALKER, Pte J., Lamash >117WALKER, Pte J., Lamlash >24WALKER, William >36WALKER, William, Invercloy >89WALKER, William, Invercloy >49WATSON, Alexander, Glasgow, late of Brodick >99WATSON, Corporal William, Vancouver, Canada >117WATSON, Gnr A., Lochranza >99WATSON, John, Vancouver, late Glencloy Farm, Brodick >118WATSON, L-Cpl A., Shiskine >123WATSON, O.S., A., Corrie >112WATSON, Pte D., Corrie >115WATSON, Pte E., Corrie >111WATSON, Pte J., Lamash >119WATSON, Pte J., Lochranza >49WATSON, Sergeant Andrew Edward >121WATSON, Sgt W., Lamlash >81WATT, Alexander, Glasgow >81WATT, Corporal Alexander >123WATT, O.S.A. W.C., Whiting Bay >116WATT, Pte T., Shiskine >124WEIR, Lieut-Com J., Shiskine >114WEIR, Pte C.M., Shiskine >61WEMYS, Earl of >122WESCOTT, Pte Chas., Southend and Kildonan >124WHITELAW, Pte G., Shiskine >53WILKIE & KENNEDY, Messrs, Glasgow >124WILSON, A.B. F., Slidderie >44WILSON, Alexander >30WILSON, James, A.B. >30WILSON, James, Douglas Row >109WILSON, Jessie, Rowan Bank >119WILSON, L-Cpl H., Slidderie >124WILSON, Pte F., Shiskine >116WILSON, Pte W., Shiskine >119WISHART, Pte R., Whiting Bay >27,50,55,66WOOLEY & Son, Messrs, Brodick >85WOOLEY, Alexander >60,61,65,85,98,102,109WOOLEY, Alexander, Invercloy >65WOOLEY, Archibald K. >102WOOLEY, Archie, Australian Royal Engineers >104WOOLEY, Charles, Fiji(?) >102,104,WOOLEY, Charles, harbour-master, Fiji >105WOOLEY, Donald, Fiji >85WOOLEY, Donald, Perthshire >60WOOLEY, Lance-Corporal T.F. >60WOOLEY, Thomas, Tain >112YOUNG, Pte R., Shiskine >20ZURCHER nee KELSO, Mrs > >Cheers, >Ruth, >Adelaide, South Australia > >

Part 1 of part 2 ... -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Broad <mbroad@chariot.net.au> To: Buteshire <ButeshireGenWeb-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:27 Subject: Surname Index to Brodick-Arran and the Great War 1916-1918,James C. INGLIS, 1919 - M to Z >Cont'd: >Page NoName >108MacCAULY, Katie Brown >104MacKINNON, Alexander G, Victoria, Australia >89MacKINNON, Miss, Low Glencloy >113MADDEN, Sgt A., Lamlash >117M'ALLISTER, Bom D., Slidderie >118M'ALLISTER, Capt. A., Shiskine >123M'ALLISTER, Lieut D., Slidderie >114M'ALLISTER, Pte A., Lochranza >120M'ALLISTER, Pte A., Lochranza >112M'ALLISTER, Pte A., Shiskine >115M'ALLISTER, Pte A., Shiskine >113M'ALLISTER, Pte A., Slidderie >121M'ALLISTER, Pte P., Slidderie >121M'ALLISTER, Pte W., Shiskine >113M'ALLISTER, Sgt-Sdlr. W., Slidderie >123M'ALLISTER, W.O. Engr H., Slidderie >120MARSHALL, Pte R., Shiskine >114M'ARTHUR, Pte J. >117MATHESON, Gnr M., Shiskine >113MATHIE, Dvr. J., Southend and Kildonan >114MATHIE, Pte J., Slidderie >115MATHIE, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >121MATHIE, Pte W., Slidderie >117M'BRIDE, Gnr. N., Shiskine >121M'BRIDE, Pte J., Pirnmill >111M'BRIDE, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >124M'BRIDE, Seaman L., Pirnmill >43,44McALLISTER John, >43McALLISTER, James, Fir Cottage >112M'CALLUM, Pte G., Pirnmill >112M'CALLUM, Pte N., Southend and Kildonan >114M'CANDISH, Pte R., Shiskine >29,31,43,87McARTHUR, Duncan, Merkland >29McARTHUR, Gunner Thomas R. >31McARTHUR, James B., O.S. >43McARTHUR, Malcolm >44McAUSLAN Sergeant-Major David >44,80McAUSLAN, David, Douglas Row >80McAUSLAN, Sapper William >47McBRIDE, Archibald >47McBRIDE, The late John, High Glencloy >83McCOLL, Corporal Saddler Donald >111McCUBBIN, Pte J., Lamash >99McDONALD, James, Alberta, Canada >101McDONALD, Lance-Corporal David, Alberta, Canada >99,101McDONALD, Lieutenant John, Alberta Canada >99McDONALD, Mrs, Invercloy >51McECHRAN Samuel >41McFARLANE, Alexander >56McINTYRE, Corporal Duncan >86McINTYRE, Gunner Duncan >30McINTYRE, James >96McINTYRE, John, Winnipeg, Canada >44McINTYRE, William >30,44,96McINTYRE, William, Douglas Row >81McKAY Sergeant William >96McKAY, James, Edinburgh >96McKAY, John >61McKAY, Lieutenant Alexander >70McKAY, Neil Curry >27McKELVIE Alexander >27McKELVIE, The late Andrew >37,39McKILLOP, Dugald >17McKINNON, Peter >103,104McKINNON, Peter, Victoria, Australia >17McKINNON, Sister >103,104McKINNON, the late James, East Gippsland, Victoria, Australia, late >Strathwhillan, Brodick >49McLELLAN, Messrs George & Sons, Glasgow >114M'CLUNG, Pte M., Corrie >98McNAUGHTON, Sergeant John, Canada >55McNICOL, Angus >55,87McNICOL, Colin, Douglas Row >87McNICOL, Gunner William >21McNICOL, Sister Bessie >123M'COLL, Engr-Lieut J., Lamlash >114M'COLL, Pte C., Lamlash >120M'CORMACK, L-Cpl J., Pirnmill >112M'CRANK, Pte P., Shiskine >32McWATTIE, Alexander >32,62McWATTIE, James, Glasgow >32,62McWATTIE, John, Low Glencloy >63McWATTIE, Lance-Corporal John >62,63McWATTIE, Sergeant Hugh, Glasgow >115M'DIARMID, Pte J., Shiskine >119M'DIARMID, Pte J., Shiskine >122M'DONALD, L-Cpl P., Southend and Kildonan >120M'DONALD, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >111M'DONALD, Pte J.A., Southend and Kildonan >111M'DONALD, Pte W., Southend and Kildonan >115M'DOUGALL, Lieut. D., Corrie >118M'DOUGALL, Pte A.C., Corrie >113M'DOUGALL, Pte J., Slidderie >111M'DOWALL, Pte John, Lamash >123M'DOWALL, Stoker D., Lamlash >119M'GIFFEN, Pte J., Whiting Bay >112M'GOWAN, Pte G., Lamlash >121M'GOWAN, Pte W., Lamlash >114M'GREGOR, Pte R., Shiskine >112M'HARDIE Pte A., Shiskine >118MIDDLETON, Spr. D., Lamlash >118MILLAR, 2nd A.-M., T.,Corrie >110MILLAR, Captain Matthew, Corrie, late of Corrigills >110MILLAR, Thomas, America >124MILLER, Artificer A., Lochranza >111MILLER, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >120MILLER, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >17MILNER, Private, H.T. >117M'INNES, Cpl A., Lamlash >123M'INTOSH, A.B. J., Whiting Bay >115M'INTOSH, Major C., Lamlash >119M'INTYRE, Cpl D., Whiting Bay >123M'INTYRE, Engr J., Lamlash >113M'INTYRE, Gnr D., Whiting Bay >113M'INTYRE, Pte A. Lamlash >113M'INTYRE, Pte A., Lamlash >111M'INTYRE, Pte C., Lamash >116M'INTYRE, Pte D., Slidderie >118M'INTYRE, Pte G., Lamlash >116M'INTYRE, Pte G., Shiskine >114M'INTYRE, Pte N., Lamlash >112M'INTYRE, Pte P., Whiting Bay >37,39MITCHELL, John >54MITCHELL, Malcolm Alexander >114M'KAY, Pte K., Lamlash >115M'KECHNIE, Pte R., Slidderie >113M'KELVIE, Bom. Jack, Whiting Bay >113M'KELVIE, Bom. Jas.,Whiting Bay >122M'KELVIE, Cadet P.H., Slidderie >117M'KELVIE, Gnr C., Slidderie >123M'KELVIE, Lieut D., Lamlash >114M'KELVIE, Pte P., Shiskine >116M'KELVIE, Pte R.., Whiting Bay >111M'KELVIE, Pte W., Southend and Kildonan >113M'KELVIE, Sgr. A., Whiting Bay >113M'KENZIE, Dvr. A., Shiskine >117M'KENZIE, Gnr P., Whiting Bay >119M'KENZIE, L-Cpl A., Shiskine >121M'KENZIE, Lieut D., Whiting Bay >114M'KENZIE, Pte A., Whiting Bay >115M'KENZIE, Pte A., Whiting Bay >119M'KENZIE, Pte D., Shiskine >121M'KENZIE, Pte R., Lamlash >118M'KENZIE, Spr D.M., Shiskine >118M'KENZIE, Spr. A., Shiskine >118M'KILLOP, Pte A., Corrie >121M'KINNON, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >120M'KINNON, Pte D., Southend and Kildonan >121M'KINNON, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >117M'LALUCHLAN, Pte A., Corrie >113M'LAREN, Pte J., Shiskine >112M'LAREN, Pte W., Shiskine >121M'LAUCHLAN, Pte J.C., Shiskine >117M'LEAN, Pte A., Lamlash >115M'LEAN, Pte D., Lamlash >120M'LEAN, Pte J., Lamlash >111M'LEAN, Pte W., Lamash >113M'LELLAND, Pte J., Shiskine >123M'LEOD, Capt Rev W., Shiskine >117M'LEOD, Gnr D., Shiskine >122M'MASTER, Pte J., Shiskine >117M'MILLAN, Cpl I., Lochranza >118M'MILLAN, Cpl J., Lllamlash >118M'MILLAN, Gnr R., Lochranza >124M'MILLAN, Lieut J.K., Lochranza >115M'MILLAN, Lieut-Col J., Lochranza >114M'MILLAN, Pte W.A., Corrie >115M'MILLAN,Sgt R., Lamlash >122M'MURTRIE, 2nd Lieut D.N., Whiting Bay >114M'MURTRIE, 3rd A.-M., W., Whiting Bay >117M'MURTRIE, Cpl Jas., Whiting Bay >117M'MURTRIE, Cpl John, Whiting Bay >118M'NEIL, 2nd Lieut. A., Southend and Kildonan >116M'NEIL, Pte R.J., Whiting Bay >117M'NEISH, Bom. R.S., Lamlash >115M'NEISH, Sgt J., Lamlash >123M'NICOL, E.R.A. D., Whiting Bay >123M'NICOL, Engr-Lieut D.s Lamlash >111M'NICOL, L-Cpl J., Whiting Bay >111M'NICOL, Pte A., Whiting Bay >71MONTEITH, 2nd Lieutenant William Albert Robertson >71MONTEITH, William & Elizabeth Robertson, Ayshire >112MONTGOMERIE, Pte A., Lamlash >116MONTGOMERIE, Pte J., Lamlash >117MONTGOMERY, Sgt A., Lamlash >114MOORE, Pte G., Lamlash >78MORRISON, Sapper John K. Cameron >78MORRISON, The late Angus, Douglas Row >52MOWATT, The late William, Millhouse, Brodick >112M'PHEE, Pte A., Shiskine >114M'PHEE, Pte W., Shiskine >122M'QUEEN, Pte A., Shiskine >111M'QUEEN, Pte J., Shiskine >115MULLHOLLAND, Pte A., Slidderie >113MULLHOLLAND, Pte J., Slidderie >117MURCHIE, Gnr J.B., Slidderie >23MURCHIE, Lieutenant-Commander, R.R., P.A. >122MURCHIE, Pte A., Pirnmill >111MURCHIE, Pte D., Southend and Kildonan >116MURCHIE, Pte J., Shiskine >115MURCHIE. L-Cpl R., Slidderie >113MURPHY, Gnr T., Whiting Bay >119MURPHY, Pte P., Lamlash >119MURRAY, Pte D., Whiting Bay >119MURRAY, Pte W., Lamlash > >Cheers, >Ruth, >Adelaide, South Australia > >

Part 2 of part 1 ... -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Broad <mbroad@chariot.net.au> To: Buteshire <ButeshireGenWeb-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 Subject: Surname Index to Brodick-Arran and the Great War 1916-1918,James C. INGLIS, 1919 - A to L >Page NoName >26HALLIDAY, James >113HAMILTON, Bom. J., Whiting Bay >32HAMILTON, Captain Gavin >32HAMILTON, Captain George >31HAMILTON, Captain James >115HAMILTON, Cpl A., Lamlash >124HAMILTON, Engr G., Whiting Bay >114HAMILTON, Farrier W., Southend and Kildonan >113HAMILTON, Gnr G., Whiting Bay >87HAMILTON, Gunner John >100HAMILTON, James, Canada >87,100HAMILTON, Lachlan, Dhunan >120HAMILTON, Lieut R., Lamlash >75HAMILTON, Lieutenant & Adjutant Guy S. G. >115HAMILTON, Major James, Lamlash >20HAMILTON, Mary, Duchess of >114HAMILTON, Pte A., Shiskine >111HAMILTON, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >111HAMILTON, Pte C., Whiting Bay >116HAMILTON, Pte J., Lamlash >121HAMILTON, Pte J., Lamlash >121HAMILTON, Pte J., shiskine >121HAMILTON, Pte J., Whiting Bay >122HAMILTON, Pte P., Southend and Kildonan >111HAMILTON, Pte W., Shiskine >75HAMILTON, Robert C. >124HAMILTON, Seaman J., Shiskine >123HAMILTON, Sgn. J., Lamlash >121HAMILTON, Sgt A., Lamlash >122HAMILTON, Sgt H., Whiting Bay >121HAMILTON, Sgt W., Whiting Bay >31HAMILTON, The late Captain Adam, Burnside >76HAMILTON, The late Gavin >87HAMILTON, William R. >33HASTIE & Co, Greenock >114HASTINS, Pte J., Corrie >98HAY, Corporal, William, Canada >109HAY, Piper Donald >123HENDERSON, A.B. W., Slidderie >55HENDERSON, Charles, Invercloy >101HENDERSON, Corporal George, Edmonton, Canada >117HENDERSON, Cpl C., Shiskine >55,59,101,110HENDERSON, Donald, Birchvale, Brodick >112HENDERSON, L-Cpl A., Slidderie >33HENDERSON, Patrick & Co, Glasgow >121HENDERSON, Pte J.H., Slidderie >116HENDERSON, Pte R., Pirnmill >116HENDERSON, Sgt N., Shiskine >116HENDERSON, Sgt-Maj J., Pirnmill >110HENDERSON, William, Sergeant, America >70HENDRY, Charles >30HENDRY, Charles, O.S. >28,30HENDRY, David, Low Glencloy >70HENDRY, John, Glensherrig >112HENDRY, Pte J., Pirnmill >28HENDRY, Robert, A.B. >94HILL, William Frederick >94HILL, William, Partick >94,96HOULISTON, The late James, Glensherrig, Brodick >121HUNTER, Cpl J., Lamlash >122HUNTER, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >53HUNTER, Sir Archibald >117HYSLOP, Gnr J., Whiting Bay >118HYSLOP, Pte J., Lamlash >120INGLIS, Dvr. W.A., Lamlash >105INGLIS, Gunner Robert F., Hobart, Tasmania, Australia >105,106INGLIS, John, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia >79INGLIS, The late Captain William, Brodick & Greenock >106INGLIS, William, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia >105,106INGLIS, William, James C., & Miss, Invercloy >115IRVINE, Capt. C.C., Shiskine >114JAMES, 2nd A-M. A., Corrie >95JAMIESON, Dr, Glencloy >114JONES, Pte J., Lamlash >118JONES, Pte R., Lamlash >36JOSS, Lance-Corporal Douglas, >60JOYCE, Sergeant John >114KEENAN, Cpl J., Corrie >114KEENAN, Pte W., Corrie >56,86KELLY, Mrs, Douglas Row >123KELSO, A.S., A., Corrie >99KELSO, Corporal Piper William, Montreal, Canada >117KELSO, Gnr A., Shiskine >117KELSO, Gnr, R., Lochranza >20KELSO, James >99KELSO, James, Alma Terrace >123KELSO, O.S. P., Lamlash >117KELSO, Pte A., Lamlash >115KELSO, Pte E., Corrie >112KELSO, Pte J., Corrie >112KELSO, Pte J., Shiskine >115KELSO, Sap. J., Corrie >124KELSO, Stoker J., Pirnmill >11KELSO, Thomas >121KENNEDY, B.E.A.Major W., Whiting Bay >124KENNEDY, C.M.M. D., Whiting Bay >79KENNEDY, John Alexnder, Greenock >79KENNEDY, Sapper Alexander >119KENNEDY, Sgt-Major A., Whiting Bay >116KEOUGH, Pte P., Lamlash >95KERR, Driver William, Invercloy >113KERR, Dvr J., Corrie >122KERR, Gnr R., Whiting Bay >114KERR, J., Lochranza >117KERR, L-Cpl A., Lamlash >121KERR, L-Cpl J., Lochranza >117KERR, Lieut. J., Lochranza >118KERR, Lieut. M.D., Lochranza >112KERR, Lieut. R., Lochranza >76KERR, Malcolm, Douglas Row >119KERR, Pte A., Lochranza >115KERR, Pte A.N., Lochranza >112KERR, Pte D., Lochranza >119KERR, Pte D., Lochranza >112KERR, Pte J., Lochranza >120KERR, Pte J., Pirnmill >119KERR, Pte J., Whiting Bay >117KERR, Pte M., Lamlash >124KERR, Seaman J., Lochranza >124KERR, Seaman W., Pirnmill >123KERR, Sgn., A., Corrie >115KERR, Sgt P.A., Lochranza >18KERR, Sister Elizabeth >118KERR, Spr Dugald, Lochranza >118KERR, Spr. A.K., Whiting Bay >124KERR, Stoker F., Lochranza >95KERR, The late Alexander, Dunfion >118KILPATRICK, Spr. R.N., Whiting Bay >113KING, Gnr R., Corrie >116KING, Piper W., Corrie >115KING, Pte J., Corrie >116KING, Pte W, Shiskine >124KINNER, L.S. G.S., Slidderie >116KIRK, Pte J., Whiting Bay >56,86KIRKPATRICK, Mr, Whiting Bay >12LAIDLER, George >95LAIDLER, Mr, factor, Strabane >17LAIDLER, Mrs >59LAING, Corporal Thomas, Glasgow >123LAMB, O.S. J., Corrie >111LANDSBOROUGH, Pte W., Corrie >119LANG, Pte W., Shiskine >118LANG, Pte Wm., Lamlash >93LANGLANDS, Corporal Duncan, Douglas Row >22,27,39LANGLANDS, Dugald, Invercloy >97,99LANGLANDS, Dugald, Invercloy >39LANGLANDS, Farrier-Sergeant John K. >99LANGLANDS, George, Canada >59,86LANGLANDS, Mrs Dugald, Invercloy >27LANGLANDS,Gunner Peter S. >92LATONA, Cosimo, 2nd Air Mechanic >92LATONA, Cosimo, Brodick >42LAWSON, Trooper Simon >112LEMON, Pte J., Shiskine >114LENNOX, 1st A.-M., J.A., Whiting Bay >38LINDSAY, Corporal D.K. >119LINDSAY, Cpl D., Southend and Kildonan >118LINDSAY, L-Cpl R., Southend and Kildonan >39LINDSAY, Robert, Dippen >45LINDSAY, Sergeant David >117LOGAN, Gnr R., Corrie >115LOGAN, Pte M., Corrie > > >Cheers, >Ruth >Adelaide, South Australia

Due to the e-mail Size Limit set for the Bute list, Ruth's two postings on this topic didn't make it to the list - I have split them again I.E. there are now 4 parts A-G, G-L, M only and N-Z. Part 1 of part 1 ... -----Original Message----- From: Ruth Broad <mbroad@chariot.net.au> To: Buteshire <ButeshireGenWeb-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 Subject: Surname Index to Brodick-Arran and the Great War 1916-1918,James C. INGLIS, 1919 - A to L >I bought myself the above Christmas present from an antique bookshop >in NZ and have created a surname index. The names up to pages 110 >have a bit of bio. e.g. one of my HENDERSONs: > >Charles HENDERSON, Invercloy, third son of Donald HENDERSON, >Birchvale, a gardener by profession, employed by the Brodick Public >Hall Company as hallkeeper and bowling-green keeper, attested under >the Derby Scheme and was called up in January 1917. While training >in Kent he was sent to farm work at Lockerbie, afterwards in >Kirkcudbrightshire. Demobilised in February 1919. > > >From pages 111-124 it only lists who they served with. If anyone >would like a lookup, just send me the page number and name. > >I might add that it is only Arran connected names and L to Z surnames >in separate email > >Cheers, >Ruth >Adelaide, South Australia > >Page NoName >109ACTON, Harold, South Africa >110ACTON, Lionel >110ACTON, Murray Adams >109ACTON, the late John Adams, London & Ormidale, Brodick >54ADAM, David, Glasgow, late of Brodick >49ADAM, David, West Mayish Farm >49ADAM, Lieutenant David >54ADAM, Thomas, Glasgow >72AITKEN, Jack, M.C. >112ALLAN Pte A., Lamlash >91ALLAN, Chief Mechanic John >114ALLAN, L-Cpl., P., Lamlash >114ALLAN, Pte C., Lamlash >79ALLAN, Sapper David >117ALLAN, Sgn. G., Lamlash >121ALLAN, Sgt J., Lamlash >79-80,91ALLAN, William, West Knowe >76ALLISON, John & the Misses, Invercloy >68ALLISON, Peter >118ALLISON, Pte R., Whiting Bay >36,39ANDERSON, John >121ANDERSON, Pte J., Shiskine >118ANDERSON, Spr J., Pirnmill >123ARMIT, Lieut W., Shiskine >124ARTHUR, Seaman W., Shiskine >117AULD, Gnr. J., Whiting Bay >114BAIRD, Pte A., Shiskine >118BANNATYNE, Pte C., Whiting Bay >123BANNATYNE, Pte D., Shiskine >112BANNATYNE, Pte J.S., Shiskine >116BANNATYNE, Pte P., Shiskine >118BANNATYNE, Spr G., Shiskine >64BARBOUR, James >64BARBOUR, James, Douglas Row >64BARBOUR, John >74BARRETT, Harry, Stud Groom, Brodick Castle >58BECKETT, Miss, Glenfoot, Ardrossan >119BELL, Pte J., Whiting Bay >124BLACK, Lieut W., Lamlash >119BOA, Pte J., Whiting Bay >120BOA, Pte P., Lamlash >112BOLT, 2nd Lieut. E., Llamlash >117BRIGGS, Gnr W.R., Lamlash >103,108BROWN, Alexander, Archibald and Miss, Invercloy >123BROWN, Capt Rev J.D., Whiting Bay >123BROWN, Gnr D., Lochranza >108BROWN, Katie >122BROWN, Pte J., Shiskine >111BROWN, Pte J., Shiskine >108BROWN, The late Neil, Invercloy >24BROWN, Warrant Officer (1st Class) William >113BRUCE, Gnr D., Corrie >86BRUCE, Gunner Duncan >59,86BRUCE, John, Sannox >59BRUCE, Sergeant Alexander >112BRUCE, Sgt A., Corrie >111BRYCELAND, Pte I., Lamash >114BUCHANAN, Pte G., Shiskine >114BUIE, 2nd Lieut. W., Lamlash >117BUIE, Cpl J., Lamlash >117BUIE, Gnr J., Whiting Bay >117BUIE, Pte H., Lamlash >117BURKE, L-Cpl C., Lamlash >112BURNS Lieut. J.C., Corrie >72CALDER, Captain John >122CAMPBELL, Cpl R., Southend and Kildonan >120CAMPBELL, Pte J., Lamlash >120CAMPBELL, Pte J.F., Lamlash >124CANNON, O.S. Michael, Lamlash >112CLARK, Pte N., Lochranza >57COATS, Messrs J. & P., Paisley >112COCHRANE, Pte A., Shiskine >111COCHRANE, Pte W., Southend and Kildonan >123CONACHAR, Capt Rev D., Southend and Kildonan >113COOK, Bom. J., Whiting Bay >123COOK, Chief Engr. W., Southend and Kildonan >117COOK, Gnr, G., Southend and Kildonan >119COOK, J., Southend and Kildonan >115COOK, Pte A., Slidderie >122COOK, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >124COOK, W.O. A., Whiting Bay >112CRAIG, Pte D., Shiskine >112CRAIG, Pte A., Shiskine >114CRAIG, Pte H.L., Shiskine >116CRAIG, Pte H.L., Shiskine >116CRAIG, Pte J., Pirnmill >124CRAIG, Seaman-Gnr C., Pirnmill >116CRAIG, Sgt P., Pirnmill >123CRAWFORD A.B. J., Lamlash >123CRAWFORD, L.S. J.A., Lamlash >123CRAWFORD, Lieut A., Lamlash >104CRAWFORD, Neil, Alma Terrace >112CRAWFORD, Pte R, Lamlash >111CROSSLEY, Pte A., Southend and Kildonan >116CUMMING, Pte D., Southend and Kildonan >116CUMMING, Pte J., Whiting Bay >120CUMMING, William, Southend and Kildonan >33,63,70,81CURRIE Archibald, piermaster >113CURRIE, Pte J., Southend and Kildonan >63CURRIE, 2nd Lieutenant Neil T., Glasgow >25CURRIE, Archibald >40CURRIE, Archibald, Rowan Bank >77CURRIE, Corporal John, Glasgow >113CURRIE, Dvr J., Shiskine >117CURRIE, Gnr J., Shiskine >40CURRIE, John Archibald, >33CURRIE, John S., Farrier-Quartermaster-Sergeant >77CURRIE, John, Glensherrig >33CURRIE, Kenneth >120CURRIE, Lieut. A., Shiskine >107CURRIE, Lieutenant Archibald, Australian Light Horse >70,81CURRIE, Miss, Low Glencloy Cottage >51CURRIE, Miss, merchant, Invercloy >39,42CURRIE, Miss, Rosaburn >46CURRIE, Peter >107CURRIE, Peter, Glenloag, Arran >120CURRIE, Pte A., Shiskine >115CURRIE, Pte Allan, Southend and Kildonan >113CURRIE, Pte J., Kildonan and Southend >115CURRIE, Pte J., Shiskine >121CURRIE, Q.M. Sgt J.S., Lamlash >124CURRIE, Seaman-Gnr J., Pirnmill >113CURRIE, Sgt W., Shiskine >25,33,46CURRIE, The late Archibald, Douglas Row >108CURRIE, the Misses, Invercloy >33CURRIE, William >44CURRIE, William, Douglas Row >51DAVIDSON, Corporal Alexander >85DAVIDSON, Driver James C. >31DAVIDSON, John >50DAVIDSON, Peter >93DAVIDSON, Robert >31,50,51,85,93DAVIDSON, The late Robert, Glenrosa >11DAVIDSON, William >58DEACON, Lieutenant Frederick J. >58DEACON, W.W.H. & Jessie R., Manchester >124DELARGEY, Seaman N., Shiskine >123DEMPSEY, A.B. W.G., Lamlash >123DEMPSEY, C.P.O. R., Lamlash >114DEMPSEY, Flight-Sgt I., Lamlash >123DEMPSEY, O.S. T., Lamlash >51DEWAR, Angus >26DEWAR, Hugh >66DEWAR, James >26,51,66DEWAR, The late John >115DOWNIE, Capt. J., Kildonan and Southend >118DOWNIE, Pte P., Whiting Bay >116DUNCAN, 2nd Lieut. J.B., Southend and Kildonan >111DYKES, Pte R., Whiting Bay >121ELLIOT, Pte R., Whiting Bay >119ERWIN, Pte E., Whiting Bay >119EVANS, Pte W., Whiting Bay >111FAIRLEY, Pte Robt., Lamash >118FERGUSON, Pte J., Slidderie >118FINGLAND, Spr., W., Lamlash >34FINLAY, Lieutenant James >116FINNEGAN, Pte N., Shiskine >32,64,65FLECK, Captain William, Pilot-master, Greenock, late of Brodick >65FLECK, John >64FLECK, Lance-Sergeant Alexander >32FLECK, William, Engineer >123FOREST, A.B. W., Southend and Kildonan >120FOREST, Pte G., Southend and Kildonan >119FOREST, Pte J.,, Southend and Kildonan >112FORSYTH, L-Cpl R.D., Corrie >113FORSYTH, Pte D. Corrie >113FOX, Pte D., Southend and Kildonan >115FOX, Pte D., Southend and Kildonan >120FRASER, Pte W., Southend and Kildonan >40FRASER, Sergeant Alexander >49FRENCH, Sir John >76FULLARTON, Archibald & the Misses, Alma >24FULLARTON, Captain Duncan >113FULLARTON, Gnr J., Lamlash >110FULLARTON, Lewis, America >112FULLARTON, Pte A., Lamlash >24FULLARTON, Surgeon-Commander, John >24FULLARTON, the Misses >116GARDINER, Pte M., Pirnmill >52,53GILLIES, Corporal David F. >52GILLIES, Daniel, Adrossan >45GILLIES, John >45,57GILLIES, Malcolm, Glenriggart >98GILLIES, Malcolm, Glenriggart >57GILLIES, Neil >43,44GOLDTHORPE, Sergeant George >120GORDON, Pte J., Lamlash >22GRAHAM, C.B., C.V.O., The Marquis of, Captain R.N.V.R. >113GRAHAM, Gnr J., Whiting Bay >16,18,20,66GRAHAM, O.B.E. The Marchioness of >111GRANT, Pte John, Lamash >122GRAY, Cpl J.M., Whiting Bay >111GRIEVE, Pte G., Southend and Kildonan >22GUTHRIE nee LANGLANDS, Mrs >97GUTHRIE, Sapper George, Alberta, Canada

Would it be possible to explian a little more on the background and title of the book please? It seems very interesting and thank you for posting it. edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCaw Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/79.213.1.2 Message Board Post: Have you corresponded with the Mercer County, IL McCaws? The primary researcher for my McCaw line is John E. McCaw of Des Moines. He has visited the Isle of Bute and the Garrochty farms and I know he has more information than I do.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/546.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My husband doesnt know to much about his family. He was a foster child born in Chicago. We do know that his father or his grandparents came from Germany. His fathers name was Jack or John. My husbands name is Lawrence. He has seven brothers and sisters but we dont know where they are. Im sorry it probably isnt much use to you Joan

Welcome back to Judy Finley,and a Happy New Year to all. ****** ****** ****** At this time of the year quizzes, puzzles etc appear in the media to keep us entertained. A recent genealogy quiz on relationships posed five questions, each starting with the phrase "What relation to me is ..." The first four were reasonably easy, however the fifth one continued: "... my grand-daughter's mother's mother-in-law" The given single solution generated some immediate "but what about ..." responses, so can you identify all the possibilities? No prizes, however I will give the full solution next week. ****** ****** ****** Here's the index for these postings for the last 6 months of 2003 ... #204 Index to first 6 months of 2003 #205 FreeCEN availability - Photography in RO's #206 'Audrey' warning - topics for discussion #207 Virus reminder | Archive CD Books Copyright #208 Interpretation of records - Indexer and Enumerator errors #209 19th century reading material #210 19th century clothing #211 19th century clothing - a response #212 Virus warnings - a cautionary tale #213 UK Schools History website update #214 Latest Scotland release from Archive CD Books #215 IGI - still need to consult original for dubious entries #216 Happy 5th Birthday (posted 29 Sept) #217 ' Census mini-essays by the "Dividers" ' #218 More on the above 'mini-essays' #219 RootsWeb problems - Archive address for catchup #220 Buteshire ED descriptions update #221 Scottish repositories - update #222 A response on Scottish Repositories #223 Pre festive season Anti-virus reminder #224 AncestorStuff - book site #225 Research in the UK / List Admin - AV problem some ISP's #226 Census Ages / List Admin - Spam Blocking #227 Census Dates #228 Happy Christmas #229 Buried Treasures at RootsWeb: Mining the Mailing Lists Archives ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McQUEEN, TAYLOR, McLEAN, McEWAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/msg/5538/SeC.2ACI/552 Message Board Post: born 10 June 1847 in North Bute Parish, Rothesay Parents were Neil McQUEEN and Flora TAYLOR (married 11 June 1839 in Rothesay). Neil married Mary (McLEAN) McEWAN, widow of John McEWAN, on 03 November 1873 at 8 Chapel Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire. Mary had two sons, Hector and John McEWAN, from her previous marriage. Neil and Mary had five children: 1. Flora, about 1874 2. Mary, about 1876 3. Catherine, 1881 4. Sarah, 1883 (my husband's grandmother) 5. Neil, about 1884 Neil probably died in 1924 at the age of 77 in Gorbals, Glasgow. I am still trying to document and confirm this. Anyone related to this family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/546.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Thank you Im trying to trace egners. Ive gone back as far as 1850s( then its off to germany) back I can not find siblings of my Great grandfather. What line of Egners are you? Thank You Anita

Oops, running a little late today, never-the-less, welcome back to Jean Reynolds, and to Stewart Gillies who have rejoined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** If you're thinking of having a truly merry time this Hogmanay, then don't drive, we'd like to have you back next year; and may your new year's resolutions be the kind that either come to fruition or don't matter if they are broken. ****** ****** ****** With Christmas over, and New Year fast approaching, this short article (previously published in RootsWeb Review, 9 Oct 2002) "Buried Treasures at RootsWeb: Mining the Mailing Lists Archives" - will, I hope, provide some holiday reading ... ------------------------------------------------------------ "The RootsWeb Mailing Lists archives contain the content of years of discussion that have been carried on among researchers of the subject matter of these various Mailing Lists. Thus buried in these archives could be some treasures that might benefit you in your quest to learn more about your ancestors. Someone at another time -- perhaps years ago -- might have posted just the information you seek today. Because the Mailing Lists archives' content is not included in the metasearch results when you type in a surname on the main RootsWeb page, a specialized search to find the treasures in the Mailing Lists archives must be conducted. Such searches may result in finding some sparkling gems pertaining to your genealogy that you will not discover elsewhere. The archives of the individual Mailing Lists are both browseable and searchable from two separate RootsWeb archives. Most Mailing Lists at RootsWeb are archived. The Threaded (browseable) Archives is at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and the Interactive Search (searchable archives) is located here: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Both of these links -- Interactive Search and Threaded Archives can also be found under the Mailing List section on RootsWeb's Home Page: http://www.rootsweb.com/ In the Threaded Archives, responses to an original message are displayed attached to the message to which they are replying in an outline format with responses indented from the original message. Thus you can follow an entire subject of discussion by tracing through a thread of messages in the archives. Browsing the Threaded Archives also benefits new Mailing List subscribers who may want to get a feel for the list before posting to it or wish to check out whether their ancestors have previously been discussed. It also aids current Mailing List members by enabling them to check messages they might have missed while on vacation, during e-mail delivery problems, or because of a computer crash. Starting at the Threaded Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ type in the Mailing List name of your choice to access an index page showing each month and year included in that particular list's archives. View an outline of the subjects of all messages posted to the Mailing List within a given month (including the poster's name and date posted, if desired) in either threaded (the default) or chronological order. Click on a subject of interest to view the full text of the message. The Interactive Search located here: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl allows you to search a single Mailing List one year at a time by marking the appropriate radio button. (Radio buttons are round circles which represent choices within an list of options on a form.) Select a keyword, name, or phrase to obtain results matching your search criteria. The Interactive Search supports some Boolean operators (AND, OR, ANDNOT) to help you establish the most effective searches to suit your needs. Boolean expressions are used extensively by Internet search engines. By default, your searches will include every field in a message, but you may narrow down your results by specifying that you want your search to apply only to matches in a specific field. In the following examples all Boolean operators are shown in capital letters while all search criteria are shown lowercase. This is for explanatory purposes only -- as both are case insensitive. You may search for john OR smith by using the OR operator. You will obtain all messages containing either the word John or Smith. However, if you search on "john smith" or john+smith the results will only yield instances where the words John and Smith appear in that exact sequence. The use of quotes or a plus sign creates a complete phrase. Searching for john AND smith (using the AND operator), or john smith (with a single space separating John and Smith) will yield results where John and Smith appear somewhere in the message, but not necessarily side-by-side. The ANDNOT operator may also be used as follows: john ANDNOT smith which would yield all messages where the word John was found unless the message also included the word Smith. Grouping search criteria and the applicable operators within parentheses will permit more complex searches. For example, (sarah AND jones) OR (john AND smith) will yield results where Sarah AND Jones OR John AND Smith appear somewhere in a message but the words are not necessarily side-by-side. Searching on a specific message field, such as searching for all messages posted to a list by a specific poster during a year, is accomplished by typing in the search criteria: from/johndoe@anyisp.net Only the "from" field will be searched. 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