Many of you are likely to be aware that a new worm has appeared over the last 24 hours or so that does NOT require an attachment to be opened in order for the virus to be activated. It's called by various names by different AV providers, many of the names "Beagle" or "Bagel", and there are a number of brand new strains, including -O, -P, -Q, -R, -S, and -T Microsoft users need to make sure the preview pane is turned off, and provided they have AV software running and keep it current by regularly updating it there shouldn't be a problem. For further information on this (and all other) virus threats, please see http://securityresponse.symantec.com/ or the web site run by your own Anti-Virus supplier. As usual, any comments to me off-list, please. Peter Cook List Maintainer

I have recently updated Baptisms and Deaths. The on-again off-again submission form has been 'fixed' and I don't expect any more problems. Submissions can be made at - http://www.sctbdm.com/submissions.htm With 27,577 records held in the database, we're well on our way to 30,000!!! Cheers Sue http://www.sctbdm.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/95.104.53.57.59.1 Message Board Post: An looking for a connection between Jane Scouler and John Duff. John was b abt 1854 and the Jane he married was b abt 1856 do you have anything Barbara

Great Idea. I don't know about others, but I am getting an interesting history lesson about Bute. I hope you all are enjoying them and I encourage others to participate. A little bit of knowledge pooled creates a creditable amount. Mike Morrison Oceanside, California

Hi Peter and List The Bute ancestor I would most like to have as a dinner guest is naturally the one I hope could tell me enough about our family so I could have a family tree going back to Adam and Eve! Hopefully he would be able to fill in my many gaps about his descendants too. It would be great if he would also tell me about his personal life and the way of life in general at the time. My ancestor of choice is DONALD(1) GILCHRIST, son of John (1), but I don't know when he was born nor when he died! He was a merchant of Rothsay, Notary and Chief Clerk of Buteshire and Sheriff deputy at the time of his death. He married Elizabeth BOYD and they had (at least) 2 children: Donald (2) and John (2). I don't know when Elizabeth died either. Donald(2) married Jane Simpsoun and they had a child Robert. I know nothing more about Jane but presumably she died as Donald married again to Phinguel STEWART in 1645. They had at least 2 children: John (3) and Helen (1). Donald (2) died in 1672 and Phinguel in 1688. They are buried at Kilmichael. John (3) born c1670 was a writer in Kilmichael. He married Joan BANNATYNE and they had 3 children John (3) born c1691, Donald born c1695 and James born c1699. Joan died and then John married a Miss Lamont. They had 5 children: Alexander, Dugald, Robert, Helen and another girl. Miss Lamont died and then John (2) married for the 3rd time to Elizabeth Kelburne. He died at Balliemore and his tomb is in the churchyard at Kilmichael. Helen (1) married John POLLOCK but that's all I know of them. JOHN (2) married Helen STEWART in 1645. He was a Sheriff clerk of Bute in 1639 and Town Clerk of Rothsay in 1649. He was also a Notary and baillie. ** In deed of Dalrymple reg July 20 1661, John MacGilchrist baillie of Rothsay, gives bond for a loan to Major William Campbell dated 4 December 1649 in which Donald MacGilchrist Town Clerk of Rothsay is termed ‘said John’s brother’ and is his cautr. The said John’s wife is named Helen Stewart as other deeds prove so he was the same John who, with consent of Helen Stewart his spouse, gives a loan to Ninian Stewart of Ascog in 1639 and is there called Sheriff Clerk of Bute (see Dalrymple April 10 1662) *** As you can see I have many gaps in my knowledge and would love to fill them in with the help of my dinner guest so, amongst other reasons, I could go one better than my husband's ancestry. He can trace his mother's Douglas family back to c770. That's the Red and Black Douglas families. On second thoughts, may I have ALL my ancestors to dinner and they could answer all my family history questions in one fell swoop! I'd love to meet my ancestor Christian Shaw, daughter of Christian GILCHRIST. Christian Shaw was a woman who knew how to get what she wanted - whatever the consequences! Born in 1685, the eldest daughter of the Laird of Balgarran, she was one of the earliest recorded Scottish female entrepreneurs, responsible for establishing the Paisley fine thread industry. Christian Shaw married comparatively late in life, at the grand old age of 32. She married respectably, especially given her history, a man of the cloth, Reverend Miller. He died three years into the marriage leaving Christian Shaw a modest amount of money. Accompanied by her mother, Christian set out on a tour of northern Europe. This was a relatively common activity for the moneyed single woman seeking a husband. But it was not a husband that interested Mrs. Shaw. The Dutch made the best thread in Europe and Christian set out to discover how they did it. A middle-aged woman and her elderly mother who expressed an interest in spinning would not have been regarded as suspicious. They should have been. Christian was an excellent learner and there is some suspicion that as well as observing and learning the techniques employed by the Dutch, there was an element of industrial espionage as crucial components of Dutch spinning equipment were smuggled to Scotland. Sma' Cots - Weavers Cottages in Paisley from c. 1740 On her return to Paisley, Christian set up in business, hiring staff and installing equipment. Possibly her shrewdest move was to use her connections with the aristocracy, who travelled to southern climes regularly, to set up a distribution network. These wealthy women would show the high quality goods that Christian's thread manufacturing now produced, to their equally wealthy and influential counterparts in Bath, or wherever else was fashionable that season. There was nobody else in the UK producing work of the quality of Mrs. Shaw and orders soon poured into Balgarran. By 1820, the industry started by Christian Shaw, would employ 7,000 people in Paisley alone. But her contribution to the industrialisation of her home town is not the reason that Christian Shaw is primarily remembered. She, at the age of 11, was responsible for the deaths, by strangulation, of seven members of this small Scottish community. The year was 1695 and Christian was 11, the oldest child in an expanding family. She started having severe fits. Retrospectively, it has been suggested that these were to get some attention for herself, as she was no longer the baby of the family. Whatever the reasons, the fits got worse and included vomiting all sorts of rubbish; hay, barley, straw, bones, rags. She was taken to the best doctors that family money could buy, but no cure was forthcoming. Until, Christian pinpointed the cause. It was witches putting a spell on her. She named 21 people, who were duly arrested and tried before a court of seventeen judges. Och, ye jist cannae beat a guid witch burnin' Fourteen of the accused were found not guilty and released. The remaining seven were sentenced to death by burning at the stake, the proscribed "cure" for witches. Six of the unfortunates met their end in this way on 10th June 1697. The remaining prisoner, John Reid, committed suicide in prison. And remarkably, the fits stopped afterwards. So, you didn't cross Christian Shaw. How much her reputation influenced her ability to transact business is open to speculation. SORRY - this is turning into a book. I'd love to meet my convict ancestors too and why oh why did my gt gt grandfather change his name - they were married under one name but soon after marriage changed it and all their children were registered under the new name. Regards Lori Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/555.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Peter, Most helpful! June

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/568 Message Board Post: Part 6 Family 31 arrived 1831 Widow Mrs William Stewart Children Donald – Came out on the Caledonia Robert – Came out on the Caledonia Alexander Mary Catherine – Donald Kerr Isabella Widow Stewart and 4 other children arrived after Donald & Robert. Family 32 arrived 1832 James McKinnon Catherine McKinnon Children Alexander – (1) Bell Ross, (2) Jane McGillvray Catherine – John McKillop (family 4) there 4 children were Mrs Hugh Jamieson Mrs Francis Rogers Neil Mrs Williamson Donald – Kate Kerr, killed in landslide 1893 Sarah – Neil McKillop (family 4) William Family 33 arrived 1842 Finlay Kerr Annie McPhee Children John - Mary Groves Donald – Margery Kerr Flora – Donald Kerr Elizabeth – William Greenlay Malcolm – Janet McKinnon James – buried at sea on passage Family 34 arrived 1843 Peter McKenzie Margaret Davidson Children Donald – Catherine McKillop, daughter of Donald “Valdie”(family 2) Robert John – died 2nd Apr 1901 Peter – Mary McKillop, “Valdie” There are a lot more names in the book and will post them after i have sorted them out

Donald This is excellent - thank you ever so much. edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/567 Message Board Post: Part 5 Family 24 arrived 1831 Donald Nichol Janet Currie – died on passage Children John – aged about 3 on passage out Donald later married Ann McKillop Family 25 arrived 1831 Archibald Cook Mary McKelvie Children James – Blacksmith, stayed in Arran, drowned 1870 near Isle of Man Robert – Esther McCammon Mary – John Dingwall John – Abigail Chesley, marr 1859 Illinois Catherine – Malcolm McKillop (family 1) Alexander – Mary Burns Archibald – Susan Ellis, marr 1852. Moved to Illinois where she died.He joined Northern Army and died in war leaving 1 orphaned daughter. Peter – Catherine Currie, she later married James Butler Elizabeth Family 26 arrived 1831 William Mckenzie Mary McKenzie Children John – died 1st year in country Donald Peter Margery – known as “Voolies” Family 27 arrived 1831 John Kelso Ann McMillan Children John Mary – Mr Douglas William – Miss Harvey Family 28 arrived 1831 James Stewart Mary Cook Children Mary – William McKelvie John – died when 20yrs of age *Robert – Merchant *Duncan – (1)Margery McKillop, daughter of Peter McKillop (2) Sarah Thompson (3) Margaret Peebles *Donald – died at Quebec *Catherine *Annie * Born in Canada Family 29 arrived 1831 John McKinnon Annie Robertson Children Mary – deaf mute Janet – deaf mute Catherine – Angus McKillop Donald John – Jane Campbell (family 19) Elizabeth Family 30 arrived 1831 Donald Hendry – Minister died 1848 Elizabeth Kelso – died 1850

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/566 Message Board Post: Part 4 Family 18 arrived 1830 on ship George Canning John McKillop Mary McKenzie Married in 1823 Children Mary Kate Alexander – School Teacher Elizabeth – William Mowat. Elizabeth born 1829 John – Mary Ann Hill. John born America 4th Apr 1833 died 5th Sep 1895 Family 19 arrived 1831 Dugald Campbell Mary McKillop Children Catherine Jane – John McKinnon Peter – Aimie McKenzie Donald – Catherine Ferguson Dugald or “A D” – Eliza Layfield. Dugald born in Canada Family 20 arrived 1831 Catherine McKillop – widow Children Angus – Ann McGillvray Archibald – Isabella Bannerman Alexander Donald – Mysie McKelvie Family 21 arrived 1831 John Kerr Janet Kerr Children Mary – Neil Fullarton Euphemia – John McGillvray Both children born in Canada. 1 child died on passage to Canada Janet Kerr later married James McKinnon Family 22 arrived 1831 Hugh Kerr Euphemia Kerr Children John Alexander – Margery McKillop Isabella – Donald McEachern James – Janet Hendry Malcolm Catherine Donald – Catherine Cameron Hugh Family 23 arrival 1831 Duncan McKelvie Mary Stewart Children Mary – Mrs Dunn Jane William – Mary Stewart Betsey – John McGillvray Flora – Donald Murchie Mysie – Donald McKillop, son of widow McKillop (family 20) Robert John – Mary Stewart

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/565 Message Board Post: Part 3 These families Sailed on the Albion, departed 5th June 1829, arrived 20th June 1829 Family 13 John McKillop - Deceased Mary Crawford – Widow Children Peter – mar Margaret Crawford, ( both returned to Arran) Donald – Ann Hamilton Catherine – Sinclair Goudie John – “Banker”, single Mary – Allan McLean *Malcolm – Eilen Martin *Alexander – Emma Gammage *Twin brothers Isabella – died young Family 14 Peter Gordon – deceased Isabella Crawford Child William – Mary Goudie Family 15 James Fullarton Janet Murphy Children James – Mary McMillan Mary Archibald Jane – John McKelvie *Peter *Neil *Alexander *John *Charles *Janet *Born in Canada Family 16 John McKenzie Margaret Robertson Children John Margery – Archibald McKillop Mary *Neil – Catherine Cook *Margaret *born in Canada Family 17 Peter Sillers Janet Kelso Children Margaret – John McKinnon Elizabeth – William Murchie Mary – Donald McKinnon Catherine Duncan – Jane Sillers John – (1)Janet McKillop, (2)Catherine McKillop, (3) a lady in Missouri Peter – Annie Stewart. Peter was 3 weeks old when he left Scotland Janet – Charles Campbell. Janet born in Canada, married in Boston

Linda Do you have any info from these films on Miller/McCurdie's from the Ballymeanoch/Dippon area? edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

Welcome to Drew & Wendy Pryke, and to Chas Monk who have joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Thanks to those who told us about their special dinner guest this week - just a reminder to the majority that there are still 2 1/2 weeks left in March - please don't all leave it until the last few days. For new subscribers this month's topic was "Who, out of all your Buteshire ancestors, would you invite to dinner today ?" That has expanded to "Who, out of all your Buteshire ancestors, would you invite to dinner, and when?" i.e. 'time travel' is permitted ! Linda's mention of the problem in Arran of bridging the gap between the early and late 1700's, reminds me that for subscribers with Arran roots, potential (non ancestral) dinner guests would be the Kilmory church officials from the 1761/2 period, when it is presumed a volume of the Kilmory Kirk Session records went missing - the particular volume started on or after 4 August 1749. There is a longer gap in the Kilmory registers which runs from about 1729 to again about 1762. It is perhaps not a coincidence that the death of the incumbent minister Mr Stewart (the father of Gershom Stewart, Minister of Kilbride) occurred in 1761 and the new minister (John Hamilton from Saddell) was not admitted until July 1762 ???? ****** ****** ****** Thanks also to Bill McKinlay for his update on the census project, specifically this week 1851. If you are thinking about assisting, but haven't taken the plunge, I endorse Bill's plea: " We are always looking for volunteers to help with this work so if anyone is in a position to help in this respect, I'd be delighted to hear from you." ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

I thought I would list the 1729 - 1762 records I have from the Kilmory film. At the end of each citation is the frame number on the film. There are also earlier records but these are not listed below. Mary 4 Aug 1747 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, COCK, (KM#366) John 18 Oct 1749 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, COCK, (KM#367) Malcolm 10 Apr 1752 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, COCK, (KM#368) Alexander 2 Jun 1755 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, LAGGAN, (KM#370) Donald 2 Sep 1756 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, (KM#371) Catherine 2 Jun 1759 Angus McKillop & Margaret Henry, LAGGAN, (KM#373) Alexander 1 Apr 1746 Archibald McKillop & ChristianCraig,THUNDERGUY,(KM#365) Mary 17 Jan 1748 Archibald McKillop & Christian Craig, THUNDERGUY, (KM#366) Anne 27 Sept 1752 xxxxxxx & Florance Currie, COCK, (KM#369) John 29 Jul 1740 Duncan McKillop & Catherine Kennedy, S SANNOX, (KM#364) Anne 29 Jul 1740 John McKillop & Grisel Kennedy, (KM#364) John 4 Nov 1751 John McKellop & Grizel Kennedy, N SANNOX, (IGI-OC) Malcolm 16 Oct 1756 John McKillop & Mary xxxxxxxxx, N SANNOX, (KM#371) Anne 5 Nov 1759 John McKillop & Mary Duncan, MID SANNOX, (KM#373) Mary 30 Oct 1763 John McKillop & Mary Duncan, N SANNOX, (KM#376) Mary 21 Nov 1758 John McKillop & Isabel Robertson, COCK, (KM#372) Malcolm 6 Jan 1761 John McKellop & Isabel Robertson, COCK, (IGI-OC) Catherine 29 May 1739 Malcolm McKillop & Janet Kerr, NEWTON, (KM#364) Kirstin 20 Jun 1747 Malcolm McKillop & Janet Kerr, NEWTON, (KM#366) Margaret 24 Oct 1744 Malcolm McKillop & Mary McMillan, COCK, (KM#365) Catherine 23 Mar 1760 Alexander McKillop & Janet Henry, NEWTON, (KM#373) Kirstin 15 Mar 1763 Alexander McKillop & Janet Henry, COCK, (KM#375) William 25 May 1765 Alexander McKillop & Janet Henry, BUTT, (KM#377) Malcolm 29 Apr 1768 Alexander McKillop & Janet Henry, BUTT, (KM#379) Archibald 23 Apr 1774 Alexander McKillop & Janet Henry, LENNIMORE, (KM#383) Linda

Concerning family number 9, Neil Mcmillan and Catherine Kerr. They were my ggg grandparents and my gg grandmother was Janet Mcmillan who married James McIntyre , not John as it is mentioned. Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: <donald.sillars@tiscali.co.uk> To: <ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:09 AM Subject: [BUT] Arran Families to Canada 1829 - 1843 part 2 > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/564 > > Message Board Post: > > Part 2 > > Family 7 > William Kelso > Mary McKillop > Children > Mary > Alexander > Catherine > James – died 1898 > Margaret > William – 3weeks old when sailed, died 11th Feb 1892 > > Family 8 > John McKinnon > Christina McKinnon > Children > James – Mrs Kerr > Donald – mar Mary Sillers > > Family 9 > Neil McMillan > Catherine Kerr > Children > Ann – mar Donald McKillop (family 2) > Duncan > Catherine > Mary – mar James Fullarton > John – Presbyterian Minister > Margaret > Janet – mar John McIntyre > Donald > Donald and Janet born in Canada > > Family 10 > Margaret McMillan (widow) > Children > Malcolm – mar Elizabeth Bellingham > James – miner in California > Cousins of Daniel McMillan founder of publishing house McMillan & Co, London & New York > > Family 11 > Angus Brodie > Isabella Walker > Children > Neil – mar Barbara Goudie > Catherine – mar Alexander McGillvray > Janet – mar Thomas McCammon > Marion – mar John ”Dugald” McKenzie > Neil Walker, Isabella`s father came to Canada aged 80 > > Family 12 > Dugald McKenzie > Isabella McKillop > Children > John – mar Marion Brodie > Neil > Dugald – born fall of 1829 > > > > > ==== ButeshireGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > For Websites or WebPages of Buteshire GenWeb subscribers see > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/homepage.htm > >

Hi Peter, On seeing your posting, I gasped and went running for my records to see what effect it might have on my McKillop database. I have numerous records from the 1729-1762 time period for Kilmory parish but have noted that many of these are not found in the IGI. My records came from the films. I am curious about what the difference is between baptism records from the Kilmory, Shiskine, Lochranza records and those labeled as Kilmory parish. I have assumed that the first were recorded at the main church at Kilmory and the second at Lochranza? Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/564 Message Board Post: Part 2 Family 7 William Kelso Mary McKillop Children Mary Alexander Catherine James – died 1898 Margaret William – 3weeks old when sailed, died 11th Feb 1892 Family 8 John McKinnon Christina McKinnon Children James – Mrs Kerr Donald – mar Mary Sillers Family 9 Neil McMillan Catherine Kerr Children Ann – mar Donald McKillop (family 2) Duncan Catherine Mary – mar James Fullarton John – Presbyterian Minister Margaret Janet – mar John McIntyre Donald Donald and Janet born in Canada Family 10 Margaret McMillan (widow) Children Malcolm – mar Elizabeth Bellingham James – miner in California Cousins of Daniel McMillan founder of publishing house McMillan & Co, London & New York Family 11 Angus Brodie Isabella Walker Children Neil – mar Barbara Goudie Catherine – mar Alexander McGillvray Janet – mar Thomas McCammon Marion – mar John ”Dugald” McKenzie Neil Walker, Isabella`s father came to Canada aged 80 Family 12 Dugald McKenzie Isabella McKillop Children John – mar Marion Brodie Neil Dugald – born fall of 1829

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/563 Message Board Post: Here is a list of Arran Families that were relocated to Canada between 1829 and 1843. The first 12 families arrived on the brig Caledonia which sailed on 25th April 1829. PART 1 Family 1 Donald McKillop Catherine Kelso Children Mary – mar John Cook James – mar Catherine Kelso (family 5) Margery – mar Alexander Kerr Catherine – unmarried Malcolm – mar Catherine Cook Archibald – mar Margery McKenzie Family 2 Archibald McKillop Janet McMillan Children Donald – “Valdie” died in Dakota Mary – located in Missouri Malcolm – died a few years after arriving Angus – located in Hamilton, Ontario Archibald Family 3 Archibald McKillop Flora McKillop Children Mary Catherine Margery – mar Donald McKillop (family 4) Flora Malcolm – mar Ann Kelso Archibald Jane – died at encampment 1829 Family 4 Neil McKillop Mary McKelvie Children Mary – mar Archibald McLean John – mar Catherine McKinnon Ann – mar Donald Nichol, James Whiteman Neil – mar Sarah McKinnon Catherine – mar Robert Stewart Donald – mar Margery McKillop (family 3) Mrs D McKenzie, family 12, called Isabella was part of this family. Family 5 Robert Kelso Catherine Kelso Children James – mar Isabella McKelvie Margaret – died encampment Mary – mar A.McGillvray Catherine – James McKillop (family 1) Elizabeth – A. Robertson Ann – mar Malcolm McKillop Family 6 Alexander Kelso Janet Kerr Children John Margaret Elizabeth – Mrs Baldwin, nee McEachern? Catherine Janet Mrs Kelso`s mother also came to Canada

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/562.1 Message Board Post: The "What's in the Database?" page on scotlandspeople promises that it will be available in Spring 2004. FreeCen coverage does not include it yet, either.

Hi June, I have a map of the North end of the island of Arran and would gladly send you a copy of it snail mail. I think it would answer all your place name questions. Please contact me off list. My great, great, great, great grandfather, Archibald McKillop was schoolmaster at Lochranza and all his children were born in the schoolhouse. These children later left for Inverness, Megantic, Quebec, Canada in 1831. The school house is located right next door to St. Brides Church. Now to join in on the dinner with an ancestor topic ..... I agree that more might be gained by talking to one of the woman folk. Archibald McKillop, schoolmaster, married Catherine McKillop, granddaughter of Daniel McKillop, tacksman at Cock, and Flora Currie. Gravestone inscriptions at St. Brides Church say that Daniel died 1797, age 67 (b.1730) and Flora died 1797, age 78 (b.1719). One question I would ask is whether the gravestone marker was correct in that Daniel was 11 years younger than she was and was a father at age 16 when his son Angus was born. I am curious about what circumstances would have enabled Daniel to support a wife and children at such a young age. Flora would have lived to see the "good times" and the bad and would have so many stories to tell about the people and times on the North end of the island. I have taken on the study of the genealogy of all the Arran McKillops and no doubt she would be a wonderful source of information on that topic. I consider myself lucky in being able to get my own family back to Daniel but I still wonder about who his father was. Most of the McKillops were located on the North end of the island from Corrie to Lochranza but there was a McKillop family in the early 1700s on the southend. I have wondered if there is any connection to the McKillops or McGilps of Knapdale where the name "Angus McKillop" is prevalent in the OPRs. I wish Flora was here to talk to. Linda Phillips email: QQLindy@aol.com