Hello All! Just got back to California from three lovely weeks in Scotland. My wife and I spent 8 days on Bute at the home of my second cousin. Weather? I got sunburned! I had prepared to exhibit over 100 of my grandfather's photos (My grandfather was a Brandane who emigrated to California via Hawaii after World War One). With the assistance of Mr. Ivor Gibbs of the Bute Museum and Mr. Jim Gallagher of the Bute Sons & Daughters, we got some good publicity from The Buteman and set up in The Discovery Centre (The Old Winter Gardens, I'm told) for a lovely Saturday and Sunday. The idea was for Locals to view the photos to try to identify people in them and/or provide any information to "flesh out" the stories surrounding them. Most of the photos were taken by my grandfather, Daniel Morrison of the Bute (Mountain) Battery, Royal Garrison Artillery, at the outbreak of the war, and of the Argyll (Mountain) Battery in action in Salonika. There were many other family photos, church photos, and photos with unknown participants and origins. The Bute Battery, the Argyll Battery and the Ross & Cromarty Battery were part of the 4th Highland (Mountain) Brigade, RGA, TF. These were unique units in the British Army and provided special fire support in Gallipoli, Egypt and Greece in places where conventional artillery couldn't go. The response was better than expected and I spent two days meeting some very special folks. While there were some identifications made, I learned a bit more about the Battery, and Rothesay and Bute history. I met some very special people. Mrs. May Russell just turned 100 years old shortly before my visit. Ivor from the Museum arranged for me to go to her flat on Battery Place and meet her. I took along the photos and she picked her father out of several of the photos as well as a few of the other men. She could also tell me where they lived and what they did for a living. I brought along my grandparents wedding photo taken in front my grandmother's home, Croft Lodge at 32 Argyle Street (no longer there). She looked at it, pointed at my grandfather and said, "Oh, there's Danny Morrison!" She then told me where my grandmother had worked as a seamstress before she was married and an interesting story about my granduncle (best man in the photo) and why he left Rothesay. (I won't go into that now, if you don't mind!) She's a lovely lady who is quite remarkable. I also spent some time with Commander Ian Hamilton of Ardbeg Road. He is only 94 years old and came down to the Discovery Centre on his own to see me before our visit. He is a retired Royal Navy officer and WWII vet who is interested in the 4th Highland (Mountain) Brigade and it's Batteries. We have kept up a wonderful correspondence for a couple of years now. I found out that my great grandfather lived at Stewart Villa on Belvue Road, around the corner from my great great grandfather at 17 Barone Road (then called Brandane Terrace) and that was next door to my grandUncle and GrandAunt. And, of course, this was next door to where my cousin lives now and where we stayed. Small world. That went on for two days and visits to and from various people interested in local history kept me busy (and fascinated) (and awake!) for the rest of the week. In the meantime, my cousin took my wife and a couple of friends who popped in from Germany on a sightseeing tour of the island, driving out to Ettrick Bay and going down the west side of the island. Great stories abounded about places like "Drunk Island" (Inchmarnock) and the Kyles of Bute during World War II when the submarines were based in and out of there and the Spitfire chased and shot down the German bomber who had participated in the raid on the Clyde. The bomber dropped his load of bombs on the west side of the island which knocked a few farmers out of their beds! My wife took our friends to Mount Stewart where they toured the house and walked the grounds. We had dinner at a wonderful new restaurant at The Discovery Centre next to the Island's newest celebrity, Richard Attenborough, who lives out by Rhubhodach. This is going on and I don't want to bore anybody. The island is still beautiful. The economy has improved in the last two years. Cars are still out of place in Rothesay (but they're there!). They're putting finishing touches on a new sea wall at the Pier. Let me know if you want more. We are already planning a longer stay in Rothesay next year. One of the nice things for someone like me is that Bute has changed so little that I can walk the streets of my ancestors and know what has change and what would look the same (without the cars!) If you have any connections, go! Mike Morrison

Running late due to clearing our bathroom, prior to onslaught by renovators from early tomorrow! No new subscribers this week, although there have been a few changes of address, and some departures for holiday breaks. For the rest, if you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** A reminder that there is still time to send your contribution on this month's topic: "Books & other written material you have found of use, enjoyable to read, that have given you an insight into village/family/working life within the communities your ancestors lived - or Genealogy books that you have found helpful to your research." For those with mainly Arran interests, the two most popular Sources for background are "The Book of Arran" originally published in 1900 (Vol 1) & 1914 (Vol 2) subsequently republished in 1978; and the David & Charles 'Islands' series 1970 publication ""The Isle Of Arran" by Robert McLellan. Both of these rely on the 2 volume Arran Journal of John Burrel - factor to the young Duke of Hamilton through his trustees, for the development of the island over the period covered by his journals: 1766-1773 & 1776-1782. At the time of their publication, Burrel's journals were only available for research through the then NRA (Scotland). They have since been privately published in 1982 as a limited (150 copy) facsimile edition in one Volume by Lady Jean Fforde of Brodick Castle, Arran. Copies very occasionally appear on the Advanced Book Exchange (http://www.abebooks.com/), but disappear almost as soon as they are listed, despite the price such a publication commands. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook <cookfmly@bigpond.com> List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara <babrown12@comcast.net> of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/571.1 Message Board Post: Hi Fioana, You may be thinking of Dobbies Nursery which then became Listers Nursery. Their premises were situated on Barone Road at the junction with Meadows Road. There were also 2 Potatoe Grain and Seed Merchants, viz; James Fisher & Sons, King Street Rothesay Duncan McEwan & Sons, Bishop Street Rothesay ( my late father worked with this firm for many years ) Hope this helps, regards, JIm

Welcome to Kyle Scott MacLea who has joined this week. ****** ****** ****** Thanks to Sarah for keeping the ball rolling on this month's topic: "Books & other written material you have found of use, enjoyable to read, that have given you an insight into village/family/working life within the communities your ancestors lived - or Genealogy books that you have found helpful to your research." Sarah's closing comments re look-up's lead me neatly into the next item ... ****** ****** ****** A reminder that copyright issues must be considered before posting internet sourced data to this list. One website we have all used from time to time is the one run by the GRO for Scotland - here are the copyright 'rules' from their website ... ------------------------------------------------- Copyright. General Register Office for Scotland indexes and digital images are Crown copyright and are reproduced with the permission of the Queen's Printer for Scotland. Permitted Use. Visitors to this website are granted permission to access this material, to download and copy such material on to electronic, magnetic, optical or similar storage media, and to make printed copies of any such downloaded material, provided that such activities and copies are for private research or study only. Restricted Use. Visitors to this website may not copy, distribute, sell or publish any of the Crown copyright material downloaded or copied from this website. Any other use of the material requires the formal permission of the Queen's Printer for Scotland. For the avoidance of doubt, no other permission is given for the transfer of any of this material to an open Internet site. ------------------------------------------------- Some may be asking "How does all this apply to a subscriber only mailing list?" It is because all posts to this list are archived, and thus become freely available to anyone searching the list archives. I.E. Your data posted to the list has effectively been placed on "an open Internet site". Therefore, please DO NOT send full details of copyrighted documents to the list. If one wishes to allow others to have access to the extra data that is of no use to their "private research or study", but may be of use to others for their "private research or study", this may be done via a posting which is limited to the source reference details, plus an informative but limited extract of the data. This extract could include event type, a surname (or list of surnames) with a date (or a date range), but nothing more. If others have an interest in the data, then they can either go to the website themselves [preferred method], or request details from the person who posted the extract. In this second case, details should only be provided if satisfying the request doesn't contravene the copyright. If one does provide the data, irrespective of whether the request was on or off list, the reply should always be off list, thus keeping the data off "an open Internet site". Requests for blanket information are, in my opinion, the type of request that would contravene the copyright rules. Such requests should be returned with the just the access details for the website. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook <cookfmly@bigpond.com> List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara <babrown12@comcast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McGilthighnich or Shaw, Galbreath, McMurdie, McMillan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/576 Message Board Post: Has anyone got any info on the following family or researching in Rothesay or Islay? Duncan McGilthighnich or Shaw born c 1771 in Rothesay? or Islay? He married Margaret Galbreath in Rothesay on 5 June 1791 and the family name continued as Shaw.They went on to have 11 children, Jean 1792, Neil 1794, Patrick 1796, Sarah 1799, Margaret 1802, Mary 1804, Marian 1804, Duncan 1807, Angus 1809, Catherine 1812 and Euphemia 1814. There's also a Niel McGilthighnich or Shaw who married a Janet Leitch on 19 Jan 1795 in Rothesay who could be Duncan's brother or cousin. On the IGI there's an Archibald McGilthignich born on Islay pre 1760 who could also be Duncan's father given the unusual surname. Would welcome any info - we hope to go to Scotland in July/August and would be grateful to know where to go to look up any records for Rothesay and Islay.

With thanks to the D&G list......... ...The BBC has just announced that the British Library has decided to put 100 years of 19th century newspapers online . http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3795631.stm The new website will be online within the next 18 months edward Limpsfield, Surrey Using Norton SystemWorks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Munn, McAlpin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/415.416.1 Message Board Post: Not certain where they came from, but I have info on James Munn and daughter Catherine Isabel and son Daniel who were in Cumberland County, NC late 1700's. "Bell" married Daniel McAlpin around 1792 and they baptized four children (Alexander, John, Daniel and Mary) between 1794 and 1802 at Old Bluff Presbyterian Church. Daniel Mcalpin died in 1818 and one of the people who posted bond to settle his estate was Daniel Munn. Daniel later went with a group of families to Mississippi to start a church. He died there. Jessie

It is a while since I posted my Arran interests, so here goes, in the hope that some of the newer list members may be able to help. The key person is Flora GALBRAITH, who was born in 1835 in Kent, England, while her father, Neil GALBRAITH (1812 - >1859) was with the coastguard there. Her birth record reads: 1835 Dec 9th; Flora, [Parish and day born] Worth; Kent, Nov 20th. [Parents] Neil GALBREATH, mariner & Elizabeth formerly HAMILTON [Abode of parents] No 2 Battery. From the coastguard records, we can see that Elizabeth HAMILTON was born in Arran. Ref PRO ADM 175/97 Nomination No 4519 Date of Nomination 7 May 1833 Date of Appointment from this office 3 Oct 1833 Name Galbraith, Neil ....Place of nativity of man Cameltown, Argylshire ***Place of nativity of wife Arran, Buteshire*** Neil was discharged for misconduct, from the Coastguard in 1836, and we next find Flora GALBRAITH nee HAMILTON in Lamlash, Arran in 1841 Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks GALBRAITH Elizabeth F 30 Housekeeper Bute GALBRAITH John M 7 (Son) Bute GALBRAITH Flora F 5 (Daughter) Bute [actually Kent, England] HAMILTON Margt F 25 (Sister) Bute Location Piece: SCT1841/553 Place: Kilbride & Lochranza-Bute Enumeration District: 5 Civil Parish: Kilbride Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 5 Page: 15 Address: Lamlash The family do not seem to be there in 1851. There are so many HAMILTONs in Arran, that I have not so far been able to identify 'my' Elizabeth HAMILTON with any certainty. The only family which seems to have had both Elizabeth and Margaret Hamilton as sisters, about the right time, is that of Alexander HAMILTON and Catherine MATHIE. Can anyone confirm or eliminate the possibility that these are the parents of Elizabeth GALBRAITH nee HAMILTON? I'd really welcome any advice or help with this long-standing brick wall. Best regards Sarah Galbraith

Spare births, 1790, Rothesay, Bute. No additional information available, but image possibly available upon request with notice. I am interested in this record because a pair of my ancestors (John McLEA and future wife Janet/Jessie McKAY) may have come to Glasgow from Rothesay. There is a possible John McLEA on this page, but he might not be mine. Names of Interest: McLEA, FISHER, SALMON, BANNALYNE, KENNEDY, GILLIES, STEWART, McKAY/MacKAY, BROWN, TAYLOR, McCONECHY/MacCONECHY, HILL, BURNE, McGILCHERAN/MacGILCHERAN, MITCHELL, THOMSON, MacINTOSH, DUNCAN, TELFER, McKECHAN Extract of entries in an OLD PAROCHIAL REGISTER Registration of Births, Deaths, and Marriages (Scotland) Act 1865, S. 47 Parish of Rothesay County of Bute SALMON (cut off at top) …Rothesay, and Margaret BANNALYNE, was born the 12th, Baptised the 18th. KENNEDY Archibald Son of John KENNEDY, Mason, in Rothesay, and Mary STEWART, was born the 19th and Baptised the 20th. GILLIES Margaret, daughter of John GILLIES in Rothesay, and Janet STEWART, was born the 19th, Baptised the 20th. McKAY Margaret, daughter of John MacKAY, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Christian BROWN, was born the 25th, Baptd 29th. BROWN Mary, daughter of Daniel BROWN, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Margaret McCONECHY, was born and baptized the 29th. TAYLOR Mary, daughter of Alexander TAYLOR, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Mary BROWN, was born 25th inst.? Baptd. 5th May. May 1790 McLEA John, Son of Duncan McLEA, Taylor, in Rothesay, and Margaret FISHER, was born the 2d and Baptised the 9th. HILL Archibald, Son of Robert HILL, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Eliza- -beth BURNE, was born the 3d and Baptised the 9th. McGILCHERAN Janet, daughter of Daniel MacGILCHERAN, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Jean RITCHIE, was born the 1st and Baptised the 9th. MITCHELL Andrew, Son of Andrew MITCHELL, Ship Builder, in Rothesay, and Janet THOMSON, was born the 3d and and Baptised the 9th. STEWART James, Son of John STEWART, Labourer, in Edinbrg. And Catharine MacINTOSH, Born 24th, April last, Bapd. 16th inst. McGILCHERAN Mary, daughter of Robert MacGILCHERAN, Merchant, in Rothsay, and Janet DUNCAN, was born 13th + Baptised 16th. BROWN Daniel, Son of Daniel BROWN, Seaman, in Rothesay, and Jean TELFER, was born 25th, April last, Baptised 16th, curt. STEWART Janet, daughter of Robert STEWART, Maltman, in Rothesay, and Katharine McKECHAN, was born the 12th, Baptised 16th. McCONECHY Grizel, daughter of Robert MacCONECHY, in Dunalant? And Jean MacKAY, was born 19th, Baptised 23d. The above particulars are extracted from a register of Births and Baptisms, dated 9th May 1790, Given under the Seal of the General Register Office, New Register House, Edinburgh on 19th May 2004.

Dear Buteshire GenWeb friends: Per the email I got from Peter, I wanted to introduce myself to you all. I'm Kyle MacLea, and I'm living here in Michigan, USA. As for the question of whether I'm retired or 'still working' -- I can tell you that I might at times wish I were retired, but being only 28, I've got quite a while to go yet! I work as a scientist during the day, for the US Dept of Agriculture. I've only been actively working on my genealogy for about 6 months now, but I've always had the interest. I've always known that my family came from Scotland, but only recently have I tried to find out WHERE. Which probably as well as anything leads me to my research interests, which I'll go ahead and list in case anyone has some suggestions! Probably like a lot of folks, the home from which my ancestors came to America was the city - Glasgow to be specific. I have a couple of generations in Glasgow, but I always thought that EVENTUALLY, I would find my way back OUT of Glasgow! My ancestor John McLEA is the stumbling block. I know he and his wife Janet/Jessie McKAY were married 27 Nov 1818 in Glasgow Parish by the Relief minister and that John was a blacksmith. I have found the births of 2 children: Margaret born 27 Dec 1819 in Glasgow, Duncan baptised 27 Aug 1824 in Gorbals Parish. From my ancestor Peter McLEA's death record, his birth to John McLEA and Jessie McKAY is listed, and puts him as being born in abt. 1828 (though I cannot find a birth Record for Peter anywhere). Census records from 1851 and 1861 also concur on his approximate age. I have all of the death records for these folks, except for John McLEA, who based on the census must have died pre-1851 but for whom no death cert exists that I can find. So, my problem is basically this: I don't know who John's parents are, or where he was from. I know that he ("John McLAE") married in 1818 and that his wife Jessie is listed as being from Rothesay, Bute, on the census from 1851 and 1861. However, in 1818 at the time of their wedding they were listed in Glasgow and no city of origin is listed (her death record says that she was born Abt. 1802, but only her father's name is given -- Peter McKAY). It would seem reasonable that they (John and Jessie) met in Rothesay, but I have no proof of this. Scotlandspeople does not have a death record for John that I can find. Similarly, there are enough John McLEAs in the birth records (and there were quite a few McLEAs in Bute, I believe!) that I can't really know for sure which one is him. Since the marriage record is uninformative about age or birthplace, I'm a little at a loss. One suggestion was made to me to wait for Scotlandspeople to put the 1841 Census online this summer and hope and pray that John was still alive in 1841 (especially since he was deceased by 1851, this might be a long shot!). So, I query you fine group of experts: Any other ideas on how to get more information on John that would be useful to me in going further up the tree? I have a potential birth to a Duncan McLEA & Margaret FISHER 09 May 1790 in Rothesay, which would make a great deal of sense given that I know two of John's children were Duncan and Margaret, but I don't have proof of the connection. And the age is not unreasonable, though maybe a little late (28 at marriage, and his wife maybe 12 years younger than him). Also, at the moment I have no proof of a connection to the Rev Dr. Archibald McLEA, who is found in numerous mentions in the list archives (and who seems like quite the character). I have not yet managed to connect my family with any other McLEAs (or how we spell it -- MacLEA) that weren't cousins on this side of the Atlantic, so any clues to connect with anyone else would be much appreciated! Any thoughts? Help very much appreciated and I'm glad to be a part of the group! Thanks so much, Kyle MacLea

For those with sea-faring family in Argyll and Bute, I'd like to recommend "Ferry Tales of Argyll and the Isles" by Walter Weyndling. My edition is ISBN 0-7509-1185-9, publ Alan Sutton Publishing. Phoenix Mill, Thrupp, Stroud, Gloucestershire GL5 2BU, England, 1996, but looking at Amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1841582700/qid=1086524695/sr=1-1/re f=sr_1_0_1/026-2561933-7191648 it appears that Birlinn have republished the book in 2003. Used copies are also available there, and on Abebooks at http://www.abebooks.com/ This 150 page, well-illustrated paperback describes the various ferry boats, and ferrymen which supplied the mainland of Argyll and its nearby islands, including Arran and Bute, which together cover 18 pages. For Arran, the book describes the setting up of the first proper ferry service in the 1770s, running between Brodick and Saltcoats. It covers various boats and skippers in the 19th century, and describes the ferries running right up to the time of writing. Names mentioned include Bannatyne, Burrell, Hamilton [of course!], Cook, Robertson and Currie. The chapter on Bute indicates that there was a regular ferry service from an earlier date, but gives most attention to 20th century incidents, some involving the author. For those with any family employed on the ferries, this book is a wonderful resource. Happy reading Sarah Galbraith (PS Authors of books such as these deserve support, and the book is readily available, so no look-ups on this occasion.)

No new subscribers, unless I missed some during my computer change over, in which case 'Welcome'. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Thanks to Madeleine for setting the ball rolling on this month's topic: "Books & other written material you have found of use, enjoyable to read, that have given you an insight into village/family/working life within the communities your ancestors lived - or Genealogy books that you have found helpful to your research." I don't have miller's in my ancestry (that I know of yet) although it is probable that my 4G grandmother Mary MILLER born Arran ~1740 is descended from one. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@comcast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. PS for those who asked, I've wholly gone over to Apple - a Mac seems quite appropriate for one with Scots ancestry - and has the advantage of one of the best if not THE best genealogy programs around.

Hello everyone, When Peter announced the topic for this month I knew at once what my choice would be - The Scottish Country Miller 1700-1900: A History of Water-powered Meal Milling in Scotland by Enid Gauldie. Maybe it is a cumbersome title for a book that is extremely easy to read. I found it as unputdownable as a thriller. Of course, you get what it says on the cover - it is packed with facts and deals with the origins of milling and various technical aspects. What I find most fascinating is the vivid picture it paints of the daily life of the miller and his changing status over the years. If your tree is packed with farm labourers and country folk, as mine is, this book gives some fascinating insights. Mrs Gauldie says at the beginning: "The central importance of the corn mill to the traditional Scots community is not easily grasped until it is understood that the mill used to be the supplier of almost every mouthful of food." There is also the question of thirlage, which by the eighteenth century meant tenants had bondage to a particular mill - ie tenants were bound to bring their corn to be ground at their landlord's mill and no other. In summing up the changing status of the miller, Mrs Gauldie explains how the eighteenth century miller enjoyed the awe with which an uneducated community had regarded his ability to make wind and water work on his behalf. "But in the nineteenth century these things became matters of common knowledge. Townsmen were accustomed to the wonders of steam power, and on the farms the ubiquitous threshing mill had introduced rural workers to the principles of mechanics ..... "What millers lost in social status, however, they may perhaps have gained to some extent in the regard of the community. With a properly agreed payment for their services there was much less occasion for contest about their profits and less need for unscrupulous millers to cheat their customers. The constant accusations of dishonesty and extortion died away." For family historians there are particularly interesting insights. Millers' sons, trained by their father, might have had to move to find work. "There does seem to be some evidence for considerable mobility among millers," says Mrs Gauldie. "Not only did they move with some frequency from one mill to another, but their sons, in setting up for themselves, might very well move to another district quite far removed from their father's mill." And in the 19th century, she says, millers' servants were not so very different from other farm servants "whose habit of shifting jobs at the term was notorious. Millers' sons sometimes took labouring jobs on farms until there should be a place in the mill for them, young ploughmen sometimes marrying millers' daughters and getting taken on at the mill in consequence." She adds mill servants did not, however, suffer the indignities of the feeling markets, where ploughmen lined up to have their muscles felt by selecting farmers. "They were in a position to make private arrangements with millers who were probably already known to them through family connections." I have a few millers among "possible" ancestors. I'd be very glad to hear from anyone who has miller ancestors on Bute with a view to sharing information, Regards Madeleine The Scottish Country Miller 1700-1900: A History of Water-powered meal milling in Scotland, by Enid Gauldie. Published by John Donald. ISBN 0859760677 In a message dated 30/05/2004 05:26:55 GMT Standard Time, cookfmly@bigpond.com writes: next months topic ... "Books & other written material you have found of use, enjoyable to read, that have given you an insight into village/family/working life within the communities your ancestors lived - or Genealogy books that you have found helpful to your research."

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/83.316 Message Board Post: I have just seen your very old message, but hope there is a link. My ggrandmother, Margaret McKechnie, was living at Ascog Bank Lodge with her son, Donald/Daniel McKecnie and family in the 1881 census.

No new subscribers this week, however as always if you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** I'm currently in the process of moving to a new computer, so things are a bit muddled here, however can set you thinking on next months topic ... "Books & other written material you have found of use, enjoyable to read, that have given you an insight into village/family/working life within the communities your ancestors lived - or Genealogy books that you have found helpful to your research." ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook <cookfmly@bigpond.com> List maintainer and co-host with Barbara < babrown12@comcast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Hi Liz, One source that is often helpful are the monumental inscriptions for pre 1855 S.I. deaths - not always totally reliable but better than nothing. Alison Mitchell's "Bute and Arran monumental inscriptions pre 1855" for example, records the headstone of a couple that could well be the ones that your marriage enquiry refers to; Duncan Currie native of north Bute d. Kames 6.9.1900 88 w. Mary MacIntyre 19.12.1909 81 by family. (St. Michaels) Another possibility is there may have been an obit in the "Buteman." You may need to employ a researcher however to look up the newspaper archives at Colindale north of London. Good luck, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Thompson" <lizthompson99@hotmail.com> To: <ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: [BUT] Bute deaths | Where can I find records of Bute deaths, especially North Bute,before 1855?

Hi Liz, Before civil registration, they are usually incorporated within the Parish records. Bonnie B Subject: Bute deaths Where can I find records of Bute deaths, especially North Bute,before 1855?

If anyone has the records for North Bute could htyey please check a marriage between Duncan Currie & Mary McIntyre in June 1850 for details of the fathers. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

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No new subscribers this week, as always if you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Well, we have the promise of a report in June, on his upcoming visit to Bute by Mike, so that leaves the Cumbraes unvisited - any takers. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@comcast.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.