Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/398 Surname: McLean, Taylor, Wilson ------------------------- Looking for information regarding my g-g-g-great grandfather Allan McLean.Born in Rothesay about 1823.Married Margaret Taylor in November 1842 in Rothesay. His occupation was "Harbour Waterman". Children Malcolm born about 1843 and Duncan birth date not known. Can anyone tell me which cemetary Allan would be buried in?He died between 1842-1880. Many thanks

This mirror site seems to be working. http://www.ofhs.org.uk/www.genuki.org.uk/big/index.html Cheers, Ruth Adelaide, South Australia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Dear Listmembers, Searching for information and parents of William BALLANTINE: I have hit the 'brick wall' with my immigrant ancestor, 6xGgrandfather, William BALLANTINE. He showed up in Boston ca. 1648-50, claimed to have been born in Ayr, Scotland,1627. He was a cooper, a respectable artisan. He then married the daughter of a prominant citizen, Hannah Hollard (Father was Angell Hollard, a shoemaker) after being in the area only 1-2 years. Tongues wagged and contemporaries could not trace his Ayr origins (neither can I) but they speculated that he may have really come from Glasgow and been a Jacobite sympathizer who needed to leave the Country quickly, as a civil war had recently been lost for that party's cause. Several parts of this story make it a bit creditable: 1) The Bannatyne family were a Sept of the Campbell's, rabid Covenenters 2) Bannatyne's were a one time Stewart sept, could William still hold Roman Catholic leanings? 3) Wouldn't a Cooper be more likely to be sent to a shipping town such as Glasgow, for his apprenticeship and practice of his trade? 4)Lack of evidence for birth in Ayr, slim, but people in the colonies did write frequently back and for across the pond. 5)The use of the name Ballantine at a time when most of this family used Bannatyne. Could this be a deliberate disguise? In short, It's possible that Wm.B. was born in Bute, sent to Glasgow and was provided with a means to escape by the Jacobites. If there is any record of his birth in Ayr, I would be grateful for that. I do know the family comes from Bute originally. Daphne Kilbourn-Jacob [email protected]

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/395 Surname: Black, Hamilton ------------------------- Lesley This family is connected by marriage to mine, and one researcher in particular has done a great deal of work on it. If you would like to e-mail me direct, I would be happy to pass on further details. Best regards Sarah

MAUCHLINE # 19; Killockhead Flora DICKIE, Wife, Married, 50, Farmers Wife, Buteshire - Arran (Wife of Gavin) MAYBOLE #148, Main Street E Margaret JARDINE, Wife, Married, 45, Buteshire - Arran #106, Smithy Brae Peter McCULLOUCH, Head, Married, 28, Joiner, Buteshire - Cumbrae #27, Tunnoch Catherine CURRIE, Servant, Unmarried, 23, Domestic Servant, Buteshire - Kilmorey #18, Minnishant - Blacksmith Forge William McCURDIE, Head, Widower, 37, Blacksmith emp 2 men, Buteshire - Kilmorey William McCURDIE, Father, Married, 69, Labourer, Buteshire - Kilmorey James McCURDIE, Brother, Unmarried, 20, Buteshire - Kilmorey #40; Garryhorn Farm John SHAW, Son-in-Law, Married, 26, Ploughman, Buteshire - Kilmorey (Wife - Agnes) (Head James McFadgean, 71, Farmer of 100 Acres) #49; Laigh Lagg Cothouse John ORR, Head, Married, 35, Ploughman, Buteshire - Kilmorey Jane ORR, Wife, Married, 39, Buteshire - Kilmorey #69, Rollspota(?) Cottage James WALLACE, Head, Married, 64, Ag Lab, Ireland Christina WALLACE, Wife, Married, 63, Buteshire - Kilmorey Elizabeth WALLACE, Daughter, Unmarried, 24, Ag Lab, Buteshire - Kilmorey Jane ORR, Grand daughter, 12, Buteshire - Kilmorey James W McHUTCHEON, Grandson, 8, Buteshire - Kilmorey #70; Do (possibly as above?) Alexander SINCLAIR, Head, Married, 63, Ag Lab, Buteshire - Kilmorey Ann SINCLAIR, Wife, Married, 62, Buteshire - Kilmorey #2; Fordhouse Thomas LOVE, Son, 5, Scholar, Buteshire - Arran #77; Laigh Kyleston Margaret WILSON, Wife, Married, 60, Butehsire - Kilbride MONKTON #91; Mary SMITH, Daughter, 6, Buteshire - Rothesay (Parents James <36> and Elizabeth <25> - Ag Labourers) #23; Adamton House George DOUGLAS, Head, Married, 56, Retired Major in British Army-A deputy Lieutenant and Magistrate for Bute, Buteshire - Rothesay Mariann MUIR, Neice, Unmarried, 26, Visitor, Buteshire - Rothesay Catherine HAMILTON, Servant, Unmarried, 40, Housemaid, Buteshire - Rothesay #32; Watson Hall John STEWART, Head, Married, 30, Ag Lab, Buteshire - Arran Alexander STEWART, Son, Unmarried, 5, Buteshire - Arran #86; 60 Kirk Street Margaret BULLION, Wife, Married, 40, Buteshire - Arran (Husband= James, 36, Quarryman of Stone, born Prestwick, Ayrshire) #95; 68 Kirk Street Ann HUNTER, Wife, Married, 48, Buteshire - Arran (Husband = James, 57, Ships Carpenter, born Prestwick, Ayrshire) #39; Prestwick Road Isabella HENDRY, Head, Unmarried, 42, Field Labourer, Buteshire - Arran #55; Maybole Row Janet JAMIESON, Head, Widow, 40, Householder, Buteshire - Arran (Son Gersham, 2, born Prestwick) #64; Prestwick Road Donald McKIRDY, Head, Married, 42, Railway Labourer, Buteshire - Arran Margaret McKIRDY, Wife, Married, 29, Buteshire - Arran William McKIRDY, Visitor, Married, Farmer 4 acres, Buteshire - Arran Jane McKIRDY, Visitor, Married, Farmers Wife, Buteshire - Arran #64, Prestwick Road Peter HAMILTON, Head, Married, 58, Farmer of about 7 acres, Buteshire - Arran Jane HAMILTON, Wife, Married, 54, Buteshire - Arran Mary HAMILTON, Daughter, Unmarried, 23, Buteshire - Arran James HAMILTON, Son, Unmarried, 19, General Clerk, Buteshire - Arran Donald HAMILTON, Son, Unmarried, 16, Genaral Clerk, Buteshire - Arran MUIRKIRK #171; Main Street John HUNTER, Head, Married, 75, Retired Lab, Buteshire - Kilmorey. That's it folks!!

LARGS #45; 15 Main Street Hannah McARTHUR, Head, Widow, 53, Baker, Buteshire - Millport Jane McARTHUR, Daughter, Unmarried, 24, Shopkeepers Baker, Renfrewshire - Greenock John McARTHUR, Son, Unmarried, 22, Baker Journeyman, Refrewshire - Greenock Alexander McARTHUR, Son, Unmarried, 18, Traveller Grain Merchant, Buteshire - Millport Archibald McARTHUR, Son, Unmarried, 16, Baker Journeyman, Buteshire - Millport James McARTHUR, Son, Unmarried, 14, Baker Apprentice, Buteshire - Millport Thomas Mc ARTHUR, Son, Unmarried, 12, Scholar, Buteshire - Millport #86, 4 Bath Street Daniel BLACK, Head, Married, 33, Gardener D.S., Rothesay Isabella B BLACK, Wife, Married, 34, Rothesay John BLACK, Son, 11, Scholar, Lanarkshire - Glasgow Alexander BLACK, Son, 9, Scholar, Renfrewshire - Greenock Daniel BLACK, Son, 7, Scholar, Argyleshire - Rim(?) Mary BLACK, Daughter, 3, Lanrkshire - ______nigston #88, 6 Bath Street Flora McMOTION, Servant, Unmarried, 20, Domestic Servant, Buteshire - Thimedesgy(?) #94, 11 Bath Street Margaret HILL, Servant, Unmarried, 14, Domestic Servant, Buteshire - Rothesay #19; 10 Gogo Side Street James KANE, Head, Married, 46, Gardener Master, Buteshire - Rothesay #1; Millburn House Flora CURRIE, Servant, Unmarried, 23, Domestic Servant, Buteshire - Angus #4, Gogo Side Street William BROWN, Head, Unmarried, 51, Dairy Man, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) Margaret BROWN, Married, Wife, 50, Buteshire - Kilbride Mary BROWN, Daughter, Unmarried, Dairy Maid of above, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) Robert BROWN, Son, Unmarried, 17, Grocers Shop Boy, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) Catherine BROWN, Daughter, Unmarried, 13, Scholar, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) David BROWN, Son, Unmarried, 11, Scholar, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) Mary BROWN, Visitor, Unmarried, 18, Buteshire - Lede Kanga (?) #30; Catburn Farm - Irvine Road Mary or May LANG, Wife, Married, 52, Buteshire - Arran #30; Row Archibald FISHER, Head, Married, 80, Retired Carter, Buteshire - Rothesay #43; Row Alexander MURCHIE, Lodger, Unmarried, 28, Tailor Journeyman, Buteshire - Kilbride #60; Bay Elisabeth DUNCAN, Wife, Married, 59, Blacksmiths Masters Wife, Buteshire - Rothesay #74, Bay John CURRIE, Head, Married, 43, Ag Lab, Buteshire - Kilmore LOUDOUN #20, Owlatburn(?) Janet DICKSON, Border, 9, Scholar, Buteshire - Rothesay #12, South side of street, East End of Village Findlay MURPHY, Head, Married, 56, Ag Lab, Buteshire - Arran Flora MURPHY, Wife, Married, 46, Porn Winder, Argyleshire - Tiree #76; Ronald Coup Street (East Side) Letitia McNAIR, daughter, 1, Buteshire - Rothesay Parents James and Ann - Student and Missionary, both of Ireland) #104; Manse Thomas MURPHY, Head, Married, 49, Labourer, Buteshire - Arran To be continued.........

Recently I had an enquiry about a possible Nicol/McNicol connection and thought that I had no information on this but now suspect I might. I have however recently "tidied up" my files and have lost the name of my correspondent so if you would care to get back in touch we can compare notes. Cheers Bill McKinlay [email protected]

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Welcome to Errol Nilson who has joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Three weeks ago I posted the following note: >Having added a link to Sharon's new Buteshire Family History >Project site last week, I have now developed a "List of Bute >Researchers Home Pages" page for the >ButeshireGenWeb site - direct link is >http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/homepage.htm > >NB: This page is NOT YET linked from the main page. You must >use the link or type in the address as given above. > >Once I have a few more entries, I will replace the link to >Sharon's site with a link to the new page. > >Over to you. >From the zero response, it seems that out of the current 138 subscribers only Sharon & I have websites with Buteshire content ??? ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook [email protected] List owner and Co-host with Barbara < [email protected] > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. List owner of the SCT-RENFREW and SCT-ARGYLL mailing lists.

Please would someone with access to the 1891 census look up the following family for me (my Grandfather and mother - James and Mary MAXWELL). Their entry for the 1881 census is as follows: Dwelling: Barone Road Second Floor Montgomerie Cott Census Place: Rothesay, Bute, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203565 GRO Ref Volume 558 EnumDist 7 Page 8 James MAXWELL, Head, Married, 52, Male, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Furniture Mercht Mary MAXWELL, Wife, Married, 52, Female, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Shopkeeper Katherine MAXWELL, Daur, Unmarried, 21, Female, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Housekeeper Mary MAXWELL, Daur, -, 6, Female, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, Scholar Jessie MAXWELL, Daur, -, 3, Female, -, Rothesay, Bute, Scotland Alexander MAXWELL, Son, -, 1, Male, -, Rothesay, Bute, Scotland Many thanks Lloyd Heys CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA RESEARCHING: HEYS (Lancashire, England -> South Africa) KEARNS (Mayo, Ireland) MAXWELL (Glasgow, Rothesay Scotland) WYLDE (England -> Australia & South Africa)

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Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/394 Surname: Cameron ------------------------- I'm looking to find out more about my great grandmother Jessie Walker Cameron. I believe she came from Lamlash on Arran, possibly born around 1870. She married John Skelly McGowan around 1890-2 and lived in Belfast, N Ireland. I think her father might be John Cameron who died at Lamlash 26 Oct 1910 aged 79. His parents were Alan and Margaret Cameron of Ballachulish, Argyllshire. I have a few more details if any of this is of interest to anyone.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/393 Surname: fleming ------------------------- Hi Rebecca Thank you for your reply,it sounds interesting as it's the first time that I,ve seen the name Fleming with conections in Bute. Though I must admit I've not had time to enquire to deeply. If there is a conection between the two it will be through Donald Fleming as Fleming was my grandmother's married name. I will certainly keep you in touch with any developements. Peter Fleming

Hi Someone asked me about this family and the letter has got lost in my morass of mail. Could they get back to me please? Irene

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/392 Surname: ------------------------- Hi Peter, I checked my great-grandmother's papers and I made a mistake in the spelling of her last name. It was Fleming. I would be very interested in knowing if there is a connection between your grandmother and my great-grandmother. Please keep in touch. Rebecca Owen

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/391 Surname: ------------------------- Hi there Thank you for you response to my enquiry regarding my grandmother "Elizabeth Jane Fleming". As far as I know the spelling with a single "m" rather than a double is correct. But we know my grandmother was a young widow and one explantion we,ve heard is that her husband died in WW1 as did Donald Flemming. And also Rothesay was a centre of naval operations in WW1. I will let you know if you information was of help. Peter Fleming

Errol I can't help you directly with your family, except to say that John Coombe Maddever MINEHAN would undoubtedly have been named after Dr John Coombe MADDEVER, for many years a well known Rothesay doctor whose name appears on many death certicates there (including some in my family). Don't expect therefore to find the name Maddever in earlier generations of your family - unless you know something that I do not. Martyn -----Original Message----- From: Errol Nilson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 13 August 2000 15:05 Subject: Rothesay, Bute, Minehan >Hi Listers, > > >I'm trying once again to sort out my elusive Grandmother >Alice Minehan, Married my Grandfather on 22.05.1911 in Proserpine, Qld. Australia, on her marriage certificate it shows birthplace, Rothsay, Buteshire, Scotland. age 27 yrs >maths show that she was born around 1884. Shows parents as Peter Minehan mother Alice Carrigan. Fathers profession, Merchant. IGI record : >Alice Minehan b. 8.02.1873 Rothesay, Bute, Scotland. >Father Peter Minehan, Mother Alice Kerrigan. 11 yrs too old although someone on the list did suggest that sometimes names were recycled if one died young???? >Maybee census 1891 might be revealing ??? Anyone outhere got a copy??? IGI also shows John Coombe Maddever Minehan, b. 4.04.1871, Rothesay, Bute, Parents >Peter Minehan, mother Alice Kerrigan. Carrigan ??? Kerrigan ??? same ??? >Also found Qld. State Archives, Alice Minehan age 28 yrs. >left London 28.10.1910, arrived Brisbane 26.12.1910 on board the "S S Perthshire " makes b. 1882 ???? >Any and all help greatfully received. > >Errol S. Nilson Mount Isa, Qld. Australia. > >

Hi Listers, I'm trying once again to sort out my elusive Grandmother Alice Minehan, Married my Grandfather on 22.05.1911 in Proserpine, Qld. Australia, on her marriage certificate it shows birthplace, Rothsay, Buteshire, Scotland. age 27 yrs maths show that she was born around 1884. Shows parents as Peter Minehan mother Alice Carrigan. Fathers profession, Merchant. IGI record : Alice Minehan b. 8.02.1873 Rothesay, Bute, Scotland. Father Peter Minehan, Mother Alice Kerrigan. 11 yrs too old although someone on the list did suggest that sometimes names were recycled if one died young???? Maybee census 1891 might be revealing ??? Anyone outhere got a copy??? IGI also shows John Coombe Maddever Minehan, b. 4.04.1871, Rothesay, Bute, Parents Peter Minehan, mother Alice Kerrigan. Carrigan ??? Kerrigan ??? same ??? Also found Qld. State Archives, Alice Minehan age 28 yrs. left London 28.10.1910, arrived Brisbane 26.12.1910 on board the "S S Perthshire " makes b. 1882 ???? Any and all help greatfully received. Errol S. Nilson Mount Isa, Qld. Australia.

Welcome to Faye and Brian Heany who have joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** This is a reworked response to a subscriber to a neighbouring list who wrote in part ... >could you tell me if the following postcode is correct >....Glasgow 633-ZBZ. In the examples below ( L = letter and n = number ) I have also had a number of recent messages (off list) on various UK postcode problems, due to confusion with either of the US "LL nnnnn", "LL nnnnn-nnnn" State plus Zip formats, or the Canadian "LnL nLn" postcode format, and the various UK ones. An Arran example which, as submitted looked like the first US format, was "KA 27800" Historically the first UK postcode were introduced for London. Examples include E1, SW6, etc. Next came single letter postcodes for the major cities - the obvious Scottish example is G for Glasgow. The nationwide introduction of postcodes to the UK saw "LLn nLL" chosen as the standard two group format, but for the historic reasons given above, and operational neccessity there are a number of variations. Note that the separator is always a space NOT a dash as used in the 9 digit US zip codes, and is always followed by nLL (this group does not AFAIK use the letters I or O) - the variations are all in the first group. So here are the possible UK formats that I know of : Ln nLL Lnn nLL (see solution to problem 1 below) LLn nLL (the most common form) LLnn nLL (see solution to problem 2 below) LLnL nLL Again AFAIK this last format is only used in London, as an extension of the first postcodes referred to above. Thus a fairly reasonable solution for the first problem code is G33 2BZ , and the second translates to : KA27 8DD Knowing the format will in many cases save you from having to search on line at www.royalmail.co.uk/paf/ or http://www.royalmail.com/paf/home.htm however, it's always an option if you still want to check your guess, and of course it's the place to go if you need to look up a full postcode. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook [email protected] List owner and Co-host with Barbara < [email protected] > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list. List owner of the SCT-RENFREW and SCT-ARGYLL mailing lists.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/389 Surname: Black ------------------------- My grandfather Gilbert H. Black b. March 1883 was I believe the son of a church minister on Arran, Scotland. I would be grateful for any info or contact addresses, church or other, that would help my search.