A Dr William PATERSON ran a 'baths establishment' in Rothesay c1840-60. Is anyone able to tell me anything about Dr Paterson in Rothesay and what/where his 'baths establishment' was? Any help/guidance would be appreciated. John Platt

Please remember to send ALL mail for the list to [email protected] no matter whether you are subscribed to List or Digest mode, thanks -----Original Message----- From: Walter Galica <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, 6 December 2000 06:01 Subject: Buteshire_page I am interested in the Rippies of Rothesay. My mother was Agnes Rippie her father was John Rippie, her mother was Jean Rippie . My mother left Rothesay when she was about 18 She came to Canada ,and then to Montana, and eventually settled in PA. in the States She died in 1951 I would appreciate any information. I think her father John Rippie is buried on Isle of Bute Rothesay. Thank you Loretta

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/468 Surname: HANNIGAN, MCLEAN ------------------------- Researching Hannigan and McLean from Rothesay. Agnes Hannigan was born July, 1912. Her mother was Catherine Hannigan. Her father unknown. It appears she was raised by the McLeans until she emigrated to Boston around 1930. She married John O'Brien, had three children and died at the age of 33 in 1945. Anyone having information about Agnes or her family please respond.

Reposting my Bute interests (Isle of Bute only - I don't think any of them were on the other islands). Relevant period would be from 1830s onwards. TAYLOR - particularly any relatives of: (1) Peter TAYLOR (b c.1789 d Rothesay 1861) m Julia ORR (2) John TAYLOR (1821-1856) m Ann SHARP in Bute in 1848 MALCO(L)M - usually without the second "L". This family came to Bute from Portencross or West Kilbride. HOGARTH - this family too came to Bute (in at least two "waves") from Portencross or West Kilbride. Martyn

Hello again everyone, I've just realised that I phrased my query about millers badly. I was asking about the occupation (grain millers), not the name. Sorry for the confusion, Madeleine

Would like to correspond with anyone who may have information on the Torry (Torrie) and/or Purcell families in this part of Scotland during the 18th century. Torrie given names that I am researching include: James, John, David, Beatrice, Elizabeth, Mary and George. Purcell given names that I am researching include: John, Daniel/Donald, Malcolm, Neill and Mary. Thanks in advance for any help offered. Doug Purcell 633 North Randolph Avenue Eufaula, AL 36027-1209 U. S. A. [email protected] or [email protected]

Hello list, Does anyone have any millers among their Bute ancestors? I'm collecting miller references and would be grateful for any additions. I'm also interested in ferrymen. Madeleine

Hello everyone, Like Mary, who posted the query about Ardmaleish Cottage, I'm keen to see a bit more post :-) In that spirit, I wondered if the following details about a tragedy involving the Cumbrae customs boat in 1786 might be of interest to someone. The info comes from "Clyde Coast Smuggling" by JRD Campbell. Mr Campbell writes: "On 28th May 1786 when the Cumbrae Wherry was away on a cruise, some of the crew seem to have gone over to Bute to borrow the Rothesay boat. The initial part of the journey took them to Inverkip, where they picked up Mr Thomas MACKINLAY, merchant; Mr Samuel MUNN, carpenter; Mr Archibald MOOR; and Mr Archibald BLACK Jr, bussmaster; who all wished to go back to Rothesay. "From a contemporary report a gale seems to have blown up against them, so finally, as they seemed unable to make Rothesay, it was decided to run for Cumbrae and approach Rothesay from the south. What happened next is not clear, but the vessel and its complement vanished without trace, taking with it not only the crew of five men (all living on Cumbrae) but also the four passengers. It was found the next day, about a hundred yards from the shore, and lying in about 11 fathoms of water." The chargehand John RITCHIE was single. The crewmen all left widows and children - William BANNATYNE, Archibald McIVOR, John McCONNECHIE, Hugh McKEON and Dungald LAMONT. One crew member, Andrew TAYLOR, had been left ashore sick. Mr Campbell writes "The Mr Ritchie referred to in the report was the son of the mate of the Cumbrae cutter and it is touching to note that his father insisted that the widows of the boatmen receive his son's share of prize money for a capture made before his death." Madeleine Wales *Clyde Coast Smuggling or a Hundred Years of Clyde Cutters and Smugglers by JRD Campbell is published by St Maura Press 1994

Hello, I have been having computer problems which I hope are now behind me but since I got back into function note that I have not seen any postings from Bute so thought I would just wake things up a bit. In 1841 my grgrgrandfather and his family were living in Ardmaleish cottage at Treehouse. Does anyone know if the cottage still exists? Mary H.

Seeking information on the Rev. Colin Lindsay (c 1744-1817) of Arran. He was a Presbyterian minister who was ordained in Ireland in 1779. He served the congregation of Dundalk until 1785. About 1790 he immigrated to North Carolina where he pastored a number of Presbyterian Churches in the Cape Fear area. He was married to Elizabeth Hamilton. I have located an IGI entry for a marriage on 25 February 1767 between Colin Lindsay and Bethia Hamilton in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland. Perhaps "Bethia" is a nickname for the given name "Elizabeth". If so this could be a record of the marriage between Rev. Colin Lindsay and Elizabeth Hamilton. I am also seeking information on the Lindsay family of Scotland in general. About 1786 a Mary Ellen (Nelly, Helen) Lindsay (c 1761-after 1820) married James Torry (c 1745-c 1816) in Glasgow, Scotland. This James Torry had immigrated to Cumberland County, North Carolina c 1770 and was a loyalist during the American Revolution. He had a wife (a Miss Hamilton) and three children who he had to abandon (after the Battle or Moore's Creek Bridge in North Carolina--February 1776) while he was serving in the Commissary Department as support for British troops. His wife died during the war. About 1785 he returned to England/Scotland where he remarried Mary Ellen Lindsay as noted above. They returned to Cumberland County, North Carolina c 1790--the same year that Rev. Colin Lindsay is said to have come to North Carolina. Is there a relationship between Colin Lindsay and Mary Ellen Lindsay? Any information on these individuals or the Torry family will be greatly appreciated. Doug Purcell 633 North Randolph Avenue Eufaula, AL 36027-1209 [email protected] or [email protected]

Welcome to Cheryl who has joined earlier this week, but is a bit disappointed that there's been no mail !, and to the Freumhan Family who have just joined this weekend. Oh, and oops, I've done it again - a belated welcome to Deb Chaney who joined and posted last week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** A recent thread of e-mails on the Lanark List referred to the McKirdy Death Indexes. Bute, being the birth place of many of McKirdy's ancestors, is well covered - 1855 to 1875. I am not going to repeat the whole story, as you can get the full details on the Indexes by searching the ButeshireGenWeb archive for "Sunday morning musings # 5", or for recent postings on the Lanark-L list by searching on "McKirdy Index" The archive is at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/ However, an example of a reconstruction of Index Year 1855 entry #54 for Kilmory Parish follows (NOT one of my COOK families more's the pity) :- 76,COOK,Neil,72,Farmer,,Mary MacKenzie,1783 238,MacKENZIE,Mary,,,,Neil Cook, 72,COOK,Charles,,Farmer,,Margaret McBride, 2xx,McBRIDE,Margaret,,,,Charles Cook, 73,COOK,Finlay,,,1832(Died Aged 23),Son of Neil Cook,1809 75,COOK,Margaret,,,1855(Aged 42),Daughter of Neil Cook,1813 71,COOK,Catherine,,,1855(Aged 41),Daughter of Neil Cook,1814 72,COOK,Charles,,,1855(Aged 39),Son of Neil Cook,1816 74,COOK,Jean,,,1855(Aged 36),Daughter of Neil Cook,1819 These fields are from my database: Index Page {just in case I need to have another look}, Surname, Forename, Age,Occupation,Given Year(Child's age at that Year), Spouse or relation and a calculated Birth Year. I stripped off the Register # (54), and the LDS film number as they are common to all entries. Note: Given Year is either Index Year if the child is alive, or Death Year, thus Birth Year is my calculation either for the children: from Age and Given Year, or for the deceased: from Age and Index Year. So ... Charles COOK (Farmer) and Margaret McBride are the parents of Neil COOK (Farmer) who died age 72 in 1855. His spouse was Mary McKenzie, and their five children are listed - all bar Finlay surviving their father. I have still to check the cross reference for Margaret McBride, but based on the information provided for Charles, I don't expect any further information. Notes: Just to restate that the birth years given above have been calculated from the entries - they are NOT given in the Index, all the other information is as given. If a person is deceased but is not the person who died, 'deceased' usually but not always appears in the Index Age column. Quite often the parents will not be shown as deceased, even though they obviously are from the death age of the child, as in the example above. The only thing this particular reconstruction does not clearly identify is the informant - probably surviving son Charles, but the death entry would need to be viewed to confirm this - could equally be a son-in-law, or one of the daughters, or the Doctor or a nurse if present. There are a number of entries for Charles COOK, Surgeon - the last is his own death, the rest are where he has reported a patient's death, as there are no other COOK entries for the given Register #. For entries in later years which only give one child, the assumption can be made that they are the informant. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook [email protected] List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < [email protected] > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Scotland/Bute/467 Surname: GIBB FAMILY ------------------------- Andy Potter - I have been trying to contact you but don't seem to have a correct email address. Can you please email me back? Thanks Rosemary Young

No new members this week, but a belated welcome back to Donald who rejoined us last week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Sorry about that hiccup with the message to Joe also going to the list early on in the week - must have clicked on "reply to all" by mistake - I think it must be time for a little humour ? ... Originally posted on the BC list ... > Last night as I lay sleeping > I died or so it seemed > Then I went to heaven > But only in my dreams > But then St Peter met me > There at the pearly gates > He said "I must check your record > Please stand here and wait" > He turned and said "Your record > Is covered with terrible flaws > On earth I see you laboured > for every losing cause > I see you drank alcohol > And used smokes and drugs too > Fact is you've done everything > A good man should never do > We can't have men like you up here > Your life is full of sin" > Then he read the last of my record > Grasped my hand and said "Come in" > He took me up to the big boss and said > "Take him in and treat him well > he used to search for ancestors > He's done his time in hell" ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook [email protected] List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < [email protected] > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

My ggg-gf was married in Rothesay on 29 December 1802 to Janet FINLAYSON. I have not been able to trace back from that date at all. I wonder if any of your listers has any further information that might help at all. Thanks, Wendy Morton http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/o/r/Wendy-A-Morton/

I am researching the following families CLARK - Scotland - Glasgow area 1800s 1900s TAYLOR - Scotland - Glasgow area Canada British Columbia and Alberta 1800s 1900s HODGE - Scotland - Glasgow area - Canada-British Columbia and Alberta 1800s 1900s. BOWNE - worldwide- gathering info for a famous BOWNE museum in NY City built in 1666 all NY children visit the museum plus I am trying to connect everyone I have 1500 names with the surname BOWNE and their spouses and children of I am just starting to get England,Canada Austrailia side of the family BOWNE OR BOWN is English CREE - England and Canada looking for William Hodge b aprox 1865 Scotland or Canada d spouse Catherine ? last name this family Lived in Innisfail Alberta in 1917 one son my grandfather Charles Frederick Hodge b 1890 Scotland d 1917 WW1 was in the Canadian Armed Forces died in Belgium looking for John Taylor father Neil Taylor b 1843 Isle of Arran Buteshire Co Scotland d spouse Isabella Clark father Donald Clark b 1848 Isle of Arran Buteshire Co Scotland d 1927 Isle of Arran had 12 Children this family was on th1881 British Census living in Hamilton near Glasgow on dwelling 52 Union street Parish 647 district 9 page 6 Children John Neil Robert Daniel Alexander Elizabeth Thomas their were 5 more Children should be on the 1891 census does anyone have the 1891 census for Hamilton next 5 children Archibald Edward Marie or Mary my grand mother married a Hodge Margaret Charles would like any info on these families CREE-Canada England Arthur Hamilton Cree b 1862/65 Sommerset Co England d 1918 New Westminister BC Canada spouse Muriel Romola Sudabby b England Canada this family lived in Toronto and Fernie BC Thanks for any info on the above families Thanks Audrey Bowne Seattle state of Washington USA [email protected] [email protected]

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/466 Surname: ------------------------- Cairn means of the mountains

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Scotland/Bute/465 Surname: ------------------------- An intresting historical book about a McCurdy Outlaw The Career of Elmer McCurdy Deceased By Richard J. Basgall Note: Elmer McCurdy, Shot by Sheriff's Posse In Osage Hills, on 7 October 1911. Returned to Guthrie, OK from Los Angeles Co., CA for Burial April 22, 1977 Buried Next to Bill Doolin's grave at the crest of Boot Hill

Hi Deb, My LOGAN forebears from Bute, were ; Alexander Logan married Janet RITCHIE or RICHARD 9 June 1810, West Kilbride, Ayr. They had the following children all born at Glenbowie, Bute. Hugh, born 23 June 1814, bap 17 July 1814 Mary, born 12 December 1816, bap 23 Feb 1817 John, born 10 September 1819, bap 14 Nov 1819, married Janet Alexander POLLOCK, 14 Dec 1847 Greenock, Renfrew (his father Alexander, is described as farmer, Ettington, Ayrshire) John and Janet emigrated to New Zealand in 1854 (on 1851 census at Mearns Street, Greenock) Agnes Richard, born 16 November 1822, bap 30 March 1824. Emigrated to New Zealand in 1858. Any connection ? Regards Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: Deb Chaney <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: New to list > Hi there > I have just joined the list and as suggested thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Debbie Chaney and I live in New Zealand. I have two children ages 1 and 3 so I fit my research in when I can. I am going to listen in for a wee while so I can hopefully work out how this all works. > > I am currently researching the LOGAN family who are listed in the 1851 Census as residing in County Bute, District Corrie, Parish Kilbride. > > Thats all for now > Debbie > > > ==== ButeshireGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > The Buteshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/ > >

Hi there I have just joined the list and as suggested thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Debbie Chaney and I live in New Zealand. I have two children ages 1 and 3 so I fit my research in when I can. I am going to listen in for a wee while so I can hopefully work out how this all works. I am currently researching the LOGAN family who are listed in the 1851 Census as residing in County Bute, District Corrie, Parish Kilbride. Thats all for now Debbie

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Scotland/Bute/463 Surname: Baillie, Robertson ------------------------- Margaret Robertson married Thomas Baillie. margaret's parents were James Robertson (died 1821) and Catherine Hunter (died 1843). Both died at Figgitioch Farm, Millport.