I had a little more problem with this list, as I know Daniel and Donald were interchangeable, but I copied them as they were listed and I can't tell you if the man is the same or not. The * indicates my interest. *Andrew CRAWFORD/Margaret FAULDS in Kilcatton-by 1798 Donald CRAWFORD in Mickle-Killiston 1749 Donald CRAWFORD in Mid-Sulag 1758 Daniel CRAWFORD/Mary CRAWFORD in Mid-Sulag 1762 Daniel CRAWFORD/Elizabeth STEWART 1763 Daniel CRAWFORD/Elizabeth CRAWFORD 1765 Daniel CRAWFORD/Margaret CRAWFORD in Kirriemenoch 1767 Isabella CRAWFORD/Alexander STEWART [I didn't copy any data] Janet CRAWFORD/Alexander McFIE [I didn't copy any data] Janet CRAWFORD/James HERON [I didn't copy any data] Jean CRAWFORD/John GILROY - illegitimate son- Robert 1789 John CRAWFORD/Janet McFEE in Kirtonlay 1780 John CRAWFORD/Margaret BARCLAY/BARKLEY 1783 John CRAWFORD/Mary McNICOL 1783 John CRAWFORD/Janet GILROY in Kiritonlay 1787 *Mark MARSHALL CRAWFORD/Jean HALL 1839 *Mark MARSHALL CRAWFORD/Jane WATT CRAWFORD 1850 [An interesting relationship- John McFEE/Margaret McKIRDY had a son, Mark MARSHALL McFEE. See John CRAWFORD/Janet McFEE] Mary CRAWFORD/John MUIR in s. Bruloch, ? Bruchait? 1777 Margaret CRAWFORD illegitimate son, Andrew 1821 Neil CRAWFORD/ ? McKELLAR had Malcolm in 1820 Richard CRAWFORD/Marion ALEXANDER, Illegitimate, Daniel 1775 Thomas CRAWFORD/Christian McKAY 1785 William CRAWFORD/Elizabeth mcCALLUM, illegitimate, Mary 1801 *Archibald HALL/Helen MARTIN 1844 James HALL/Mary BARBOUR 1833 [first time HALL shows up in the OPR] John HALL/Jane MARTIN in Arnahue 1846 [probably connected to *] Mary HALL/Archibald McMILLAN 1842 That's all for now. I will post other names that appear on the pages I photocopied, later. Lynn in Baltimore, MD USA [email protected]

To Bill McKINLAY: Many thanks for your list of parish names. As I was copying the names from the OPR, some of the place names had me wondering what they really were. Your list was very helpful in interpreting some of the writing of the Session clerk. To the list: I have been reading film # 833048, OPR # 555/1, Kingarth, Bute, and the quality of the film is atrocious. Believe it or not, the sesssion clerks thru the years had beautiful, clear, concise script, but the photographer did a poor job of filming. The left hand margin, with the all important dates, was in most instances, so black as to be unreadable. The births cover 1727-1819 and Deaths, 1768-1786. Vol II covers Births 1820-1854 and Marriages, 1837-1854 I have been searching for CRAWFORD, MARTIN and HALL and did find some of the people for whom I have been looking, and probably some that I don't know for whom I should be looking! Bill's list was extremely helpful as the place names are difficult to transcribe in any form that made sense. One name I did not find on his list, tho appears to be "Sergyne". Does that make sense to any of you who are knowledgeable about Bute? Here are the names I copied and years mentioned. If anyone has an interest, let me know and I will provide the details, which, in some cases are only one child's name and no more. Alexander MARTIN in Dungill 1734 Alexander MARTIN in Ardnahue 1735 Alexander MARTIN/Catherine McKENZIE 1793 Andrew MARTIN in Gallachan 1759 Archibald MARTIN/Margaret JAMIESON in Lergain 1807 Archibald MARTIN/Margaret CRAWFORD 1814 Bryce MARTIN/ Ann McFEE in Lubas 1778 Bryce MARTIN/Jean McDOUGALL in Kilchatton Bay 1834 Elizabeth MERTYNE/MARTIN/Thomas SCOTT 1780 James MARTIN in Sergyne (?) 1741 James MARTIN in Ardinhue 1745 James MARTIN in Gallachan 1747 James MARTIN/Jean CRAWFORD in Lubas 1810 Janet MERTYNE/MARTIN/John McKIRDY in Branser 1780 John MARTIN/Mary STEWART in Ardrach 1755 John MARTIN/Helen SHARP 1834 Hellen MARTIN/James McCONOCHY 1762 Nelly MARTIN/ James MacKINLAY 1778 Robert MARTIN in Dungill 1736 Robert MARTIN in Kingarth 1745 Robert MARTIN in Branser 1756 Robert MARTIN/Mary McCORK 1763 Robert MARTYNE/MARTIN/Elizabeth GLASS in Branser 1781 Robert MERTIN/Margaret MILLER in Sculaig-shore 1796 Robert MERTIN, shipmaster/Margaret McFEE 1800 CRAWFORDS and HALL on next posting Lynn in Baltimore, MD USA [email protected]

Thanks to all. I suspect you are right that indeed Baranald is a mis-spelling in the OPRs. Not, sadly, an uncommon occurrence for any of us to come across. Bill

Wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to track down a distant relative, Robert MCNICOL, son of the late Robert McNicol, tenant in Baranald. This was from a marriage proclamation in 1810 but can not find out where it was. Thanks Bill [email protected]

Bill, I wonder if this could be Baranald - on Ordnance Survey sheet 53 (Landranger Series) a building (possibly derelict) is marked at map ref 076603 and named on the map as Barnauld. It is just east of the southern end of Loch Fad. The 1996 Transactions of the Buteshire Natural History Society has a map of Bute settlement names attested before 1600. Barnauld also appears there, Madeleine Wales In a message dated 12/14/00 9:43:31 PM GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Wonder if anyone can help me. I'm trying to track down a distant relative, Robert MCNICOL, son of the late Robert McNicol, tenant in Baranald. This was from a marriage proclamation in 1810 but can not find out where it was.

Thank you, Bill And the very best wishes to you for the New Year. Like a good Scot I don't bother about Christmas. Mary H.

G'day, Just reposting what little info I have. Catherine RUTHERFORD bc 1877 Rothesay, Isle of Bute Father - Joseph RUTHERFORD Mother - Jessie (nee YATES) Cheers, Chris from Canberra, ACT

Thought that others may be interested in the following list of names and places in Bute. It comes from Blains History of Bute and gives the Gaelic and meaning. Parish of Rothesay Breckock Tigha-Breachdaich The house of the speckled field Craigbiorach Craig Bhiorach The pointed rock Meikle Barone Ban-roin-mhoir The womans share or division Balelone Baileanloine Town or hamlet of the meadow Achamore Achamor The great field Chapeltown Baile-a-Chaibil The town of the chapel Gleanchromaig Gleanchromaig Glen of the little hook or crook Woodend Ceann-na-Coille The end of the wood Barmore Barmor The great top or headland Quien Cuithean A little trench or mound Scalpsie Scalasaig A small bason or bay[basin?] Ardscalpsey Ardscalaig Height or promontory of the bason Mecknoch Beachd-chnoc The hill view or hillock Kilmory Macneil Cilmhoire MhicNeil Macneil's Virgin Mary's burying ground Kilmory Chapel Cilmhoire Chaibil The Virgin Mary's burial ground with a chapel Meikle Kilmory Cilmhoire Mhor The great Virgin Mary's burial ground. Tighnleanan Tighanleanan The house on the plain Kerryfern Ceathramhfern The alder-tree quarter Cuagach or Cullach Coalachadh Lean or narrow field Kilwhinleck Cillchumhangleag Cell of the narrow flag or stone Milntown Baile-a-Mhuilinn The town of the mill Dowloch Dubh-loch The black loch Grinan-miln Muilean Ghrianan The mill of the sunny place Eskechraggan Eascachragain The frog wet ditch Leanetesken Leanantshragfona Meadow or plain of the barren land Achantirie Achaindireadh The field of the rising ground. Largievrechtan Largivrechtan The rocky declivity Tighaghavil Tigh-a-Ghavil The strangers house. Dunalunt Dunaluinn The beautiful fort or hillock. Balecaul Balecaul Strengthening ground Balanly Baile-Fhionlaidh Finlay's town Bailycurry Baile-Churaidh The champions town Taystraid Tigh-na-Sraide The house of the walk or street Ardroscadale Ardroscadale Rich or fertile height of the point. St. Ninians Point Rubh-an-'tohlinnnean The point of the shoulder Kneslagvourarty Crioslach-Mhurachaidh Murdoch's border or limits. Kneslagloan Crioslacheanlaine Border of the bog or meadow. Acholter Achacholtoir The ploughshare field. Kneslagvory Crioslachmhoire Virgin Mary's limit or border. Glenbuy Gleann--buidhe The yellow glen. Easter Kames An Camus Mor The large bay. Gortans Goirteain The small patches of land. Teyrow Tigh-an-Rudh Point house. Treehouse Tigh-na-Craoibh The house of the tree. Wester Kames An Camus Beag The little bay. Edenbeg An Eadain Bheag The little face or front. Edenmore An Eadain Mhor The large face or front. Teynibeiny Tey-na-beinne House of the hill or mountain. Kilmahalmaig Cill-Math-Chalmaig The chapell of St. Calmaig. Aitrick Atrig The shallow water. Kilbride Cill-a-Bhrighde St. Brides cell. Glenmore Glean Mhor The large glen. Achawilig Ach-a-Bhuilg The field of the belly or bulge. Drumachloy Drum-a-Chlaidh The ridge of the churchyard Kildavanan Cill-da-Mhanan St Manan's cell. Scarel Sceir-Gheal The white shelvy rock. Lechtan Leachdunn Rocky, steep or hanging ground. Leinhall Lean-a Choill The field of the wood. Glecnabae Gleuc-na-Beithe The birch hollow or glen. Lenichuiline Lean-a-Chuilleann The field or plain of the holly. Kilmichael Cill-a-Mhicheall Michael's church. Balnakelly Baile-na-Choille The town of the wood. Row Rudh or Rudh-Mhodach The Bute point. Tawnie Tamh-Nighe A resting point for cattle. Bulocreg Buaile-chreig The fold of the rock. Shalunt The beautiful wood. Culnashambreg Cuil-na-Seamrog The circular clover hollow. Stuck Stuick The jut out. Ardmaleish Ard-Ma-Ghil-Iosa The point of Jesus' servant son. Teyntudor Tigh-an-Dudoir The trumpeter's house. Hillhouse Tigh-a-Chnoic. Knockanrioch Cnocan-Riach The grey eminence. Ardbeg Ard-Bheag Little height or rising ground. Craiguail Creag-a-Ghuail The rock of the shoulder. Lenimolach Leana-Mholach The rough field. Drumchoney Drum-a-Choaineadh The lamentation ridges. Gartnakelly Gart-na-Coille The field or enclosure of the wood. Culdonias Cuil-Donias The mischief corner. Lochly. Bardarach Bar-Darach The oak top or point. Bush Tigh-an-tuin The house of the bush. Bogany Both-an-Ach The hut or cottage field Craigmore Creag-Mhor The great point. Rosland The land of the point. The Parish of Kingarth. Barnal The apple top. Birgadaleknock The hill covered with brushwood Ambrisbeg The little trough. Ambrismore The great trough Ardnahuath The height above the cow. Gallachan Where tussilage grows. Kerimenoch The middle quarter Stravanian The smooth-running, white-bottomed rivulet. Laubhuinidh The profitable field. Caochag The windy farm. Largihean The daisy field. Lubas A small bay. Dunaghoil The foreigner's fort. Garbh-thidh The rough or rocky end. Glencallum Malcolm's glen. Kianaghabhain Arable spots among rocks. Branser The farm with brittle ground Kelspag The burying point of land. Kilchattan The burying place dedicated to St. Cattan. Coilevan The delightful hollow. Langalchorad A plain fauld. Keritonliadh The low grey quarter. Bruchait A pleasant precipice. Kerilamont Lamont's quarter. Sculaig The natural harbour. Kerrycroy The hard quarter. Ascog The cuckoo's retreat. Kerrycrusach The gaping quarter. Craignafearn The shallow marsh. Nahoiran The sandy field. Ardnlot The fail shillin houses. Butt-curry The champions butt. Ballach-na-Muick The sea-pig's slap. Butt-Glencallum Malcolm's butt. Drumtrodden The quarrelsome height. Cullaive The back of the hand. Creaganlea The grey rock. Knock-na kannub The hemp hill. Leany The wet field. Butt-n-tuilk The wet butt. Glenduin The steep glen. Butt-blair The plain butt Butt-na-madda The dog's butt. Butt-na-menna The mess butt. Fortunately, I do not have to pronounce them !!!! A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL Bill.

Jan Does your LEES family throw up any connection with Annie LEES from Shotts (daughter of Robert LEES and Margaret FOOTE) who married Archibald MALCOM, a Rothesay boat hirer, in Bathgate on 17 Dec 1886? The name "Lees" was continued in the name of a son, Robert Lees MALCOM who died in Port Bannatyne, North Bute, in 1898 at the age of 3. Martyn -----Original Message----- From: Jan Stapleton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 13 December 2000 00:10 Subject: LEES >Hi, >I am new to this list details of my interest are as follows. > >I am researching LEES <snip>

Hi, I am new to this list details of my interest are as follows. I am researching LEES. I have found that Flora Campbell LEES b. 1832 in Mauchline to John LEES and Margaret MUIR was living in Rothsay Bute in 1862 when her son Robert Valance LEES was born 23Jan. 1862. Would SKS with access to the 1861 census be able to look up to see if Flora was living with Family , I have found the Son on the 1881 census living back with his maternal Grandmother in Govan. but no mention of Flora. Wondering if Flora was sent to Bute to relatives because she was pregnant or the family was living there at the time. Or if the Son was sent back to Grandmother maybe because Flora died.. The Paternal Grandmother's name was Janet ARMOUR. Grandfather William LEES. Would love to hear from anyone researching the same Families. Jan Brisbane.

Posted on: Buteshire Scotland Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/Scotland/Bute/469 Surname: HOWIE, HOWEY, HUIE ------------------------- The Howie Genealogy Society would like to hear from all persons bearing the above names, and descendants of same. Link: Howie Family URL: <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~howiefamily>

Welcome to Doug Purcell, "errol83" and "greateau" who have joined this week, and welcome back to Dee Schaffer. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** This is my last posting for a while - my wife and I are off to Germany next weekend to visit our younger daughter for Christmas and New Year, then on to England to visit the rellies, and maybe just maybe fit in a little research. You will be in the capable hands of co-host Barbara from next Friday until I return, so to you and yours, best wishes for the coming festive season and for the New Millennium (Now we'll all be in it <G>) ****** ****** ****** Apologies to those who have seen this already on other lists ... Voices In My Heart It was the first day of census and all through the land each pollster was ready, a black book in hand. He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride, his books and his quills were tucked close by his side. A long dusty ride down a road barely there, toward the smell of fresh bread wafting up through the air. The woman was tired, with lines on her face and wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place. She gave him some water as they sat at the table, and she answered his questions the best she was able. He asked her of children. Yes, she had quite a few. The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two. She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red. His sister, she whispered, was napping in bed. She noted each person who lived there with pride, and she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside. He noted the sex, the colour, the age, the marks from the quill soon filled up the page. At the number of children, she nodded her head, and he saw her lips quiver for the ones that were dead. The places of birth she "never forgot"... Was it Carolina, or Tennessee, or Georgia or not? They came from Scotland, on that she was clear, But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here. They spoke of employment, of schooling and such. They could read some and write some...though really not much. When the questions were answered, his job there was done, so he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun. We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear, "May God bless you all for another ten years." Now picture a time warp...it's now you and me as we search for the people on our family tree. We squint at the census, and scroll down so slow, as we search for that entry from long, long ago. Could they only imagine on that long ago day that the entries they made would affect us this way. If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel and the searching that makes them so increasingly real? We can hear if we listen, the words they impart through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart. Courtesy of the author Darlene Stevens ****** ****** ****** Meanwhile, as always, feel free to join in and present your own items - I look forward to reading the Digests on my return. Peter Cook [email protected] List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < [email protected] > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Sorry, think that address should have been [email protected] Cheers Bill

The last time I contacted them I got a reply - sadly long since filed in the circular filing cabinet in my office - to the effect that the records were then in the process of being catalogued and that that process, as it was being undertaken by volunteers was likely to take a couple of years. That was back in February and if memory serves me correctly, I believe that some of the Bute library staff were involved and if one had a specific enquiry, they may be able to help. You may like to contact the estate. Email is [email protected] I am sure there will be a flood of enquiries if records were ever accessable over the web!

Are the archives of the Bute estate available to the public somewhere?

Buteshire Co scotland and Hamilton and Glasgow area and BC area and Innisfail Alb Canada HODGE-Charles Frederick b 1980 TAYLOR-John b 1843 CLARK-Isabella b 1844 BOWNE worldwide thanks Audrey Bowne [email protected]

Regarding the below inquiry about millers I can perhaps provide just a little. My ancestor, Hugh McBryde, was Factor to the Earl of Bute. In his capacity as "Baillie Deputy in this Baillery of Bute" he heard a case in March 1753 involving an "Andrew Gillie Tacksman of the miln of Drumochley". The case also refers to "Ascog Mill". I hope this helps. Bill Lankford in Maryland Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 6:47 AM Subject: re millers > Hello again everyone, > > I've just realised that I phrased my query about millers badly. I was asking > about the occupation (grain millers), not the name. Sorry for the confusion, > > Madeleine > > > ==== ButeshireGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > For Websites or WebPages of Buteshire GenWeb subscribers see > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/homepage.htm > >

I know I have come across references to Rothesay Baths in reading 19th century copies of the local newspaper, The Buteman. Looking through the 1881 census I am wondering if you are referring to Glenburn House, which at that time was a spa, run by a Dr Moffat, or the Hydropathic Establishment on Swanston Hill, Port Bannatyne, where the person in charge on the night of the census was Elizabeth Malcolm, supervisor and manager. There is no William Paterson at either place. Both these places eventually became hotels. I think Glenburn House is still in business, but the Hydropathic Establishment was torn down during the 1990s. If no one else on the list can come up with more relevant information for you, I suggest getting in touch with the History Group at Rothesay Museum by snail mail. I am sure one of the people in the group can come up with some details. /cheers Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "greateau" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 9:54 PM Subject: Dr William PATERSON, Rothesay > A Dr William PATERSON ran a 'baths establishment' in Rothesay c1840-60. > > Is anyone able to tell me anything about Dr Paterson in Rothesay and what/where his 'baths establishment' was? > > Any help/guidance would be appreciated. > > John Platt > > > ==== ButeshireGenWeb Mailing List ==== > *********************************************************************** > The Buteshire GenWeb page is at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/ > >

-----Original Message----- From: Betty Candy <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 7 December 2000 15:09 Subject: {not a subscriber} Laidlaw family seeking information about Agnes Allen Laidlaw of Rothesay, Bute. She gave birth to a daughter, Janet at 36 Bishop Street, Rothesay on 6 November, 1909. Agnes Laidlaw had married David Hillhouse Eaglesham of Dalry, Ayr Any information regarding Mother Agnes or the marriage to David Eaglesham appreciated. >----------------------------------------------- >Regards >Betty Candy >

If you have two (or more) e-mail addresses, you MUST use the one with which you subscribed for all postings to the list. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, 7 December 2000 12:41 Subject: {not a subscriber} Wilson/Barr-Rothesay Hello, My name is Dee Schaffer. I was a subscriber to Buteshire before, left, and now I am back. I am still looking for the same elusive relatives. Especially looking for Margaret BARR, born about 1869, perhaps in Rothesay. Her husband was John WILSON. John's parents (Andrew WILSON and Catherine MC DOUGALL) moved to Rothesay from Greenock about 1888, and lived at Roslin Cottage, Canada Hill. Two of John and Margaret's children were reportedly born in Rothesay, but I have been unable to find their registration. Andrew was born 1890, and James 1895. They made trips to the US in between when my Grandmother, Mary was born in PA in 1893. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Dee Schaffer [email protected]