Hello Listers, I am currently researching NEIL JAMIESON who was born 1832 in Bute, probably Rothesay. He obviously migrated to Australia as he married in 1857 in a suburb of Melbourne, Victoria. I wondered whether there was any organised or unorganised migration programme operating in Bute during the 1850's. In different parts of the UK this was so, with people being attracted by the lure of land, or the hopes of finding gold. Since Neil Jamieson seems to have lived his Australian life in a Melbourne suburb, neither of the above reasons for migrating seem relevant. If I can narrow down when Neil may have left Bute, my chances of finding him on a shipping list would be greater. TIA, Janet from Sydney Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BALLANTINE/BANNATYNE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/495.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Jim, Thank you for the information, I'm having a difficult time with this particular ancestor, William BALLANTINE. Also, in the US, it is hard to get placenames for a century ago, let alone 4 C's. I have Lewis' Gazeteer but it is not helpful in this respect. Any other data you have would be gratefully recieved. Thanks again, Daphne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/495.2.1 Message Board Post: Just noticed your post while surfing, re; Bannatynes of Port of Bannatyne in 1600. I t may be of some help if you knew that at that time period, Port Bannatyne was known as " Kamesburgh" and did not become Port until some 200 years later

At last I have broken down the brick wall surrounding Annie SHARP who married John TAYLOR, my great great uncle, in Bute, in 1848. I knew that they had moved to Glasgow and had a daughter, Mary, before John died in 1856, but what happened to Annie subsequently, and who her parents were, were both unknown. It now turns out that Annie SHARP was born in Kingarth on 28 Feb 1823, one of 11 children of Hugh SHARP, a Sawyer, Gardener and Forester at Scoulag, and Margaret BANNATYNE (Hugh and Margaret were married in Rothesay on 9 Jun 1814). After John's early death Annie married again in Glasgow in 1858 - the marriage was hard to trace as she used only her maiden name. Her second husband was Francis BOWIE, a Warehouseman, and later Pattern maker; she had four children by him, before he too died in 1868. She died in Glasgow in 1895. Does anyone connect with these SHARP or BANNATYNE families? I would be glad to exchange further information. Martyn

Welcome to Ross Holmes who has joined this week. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Looking over the messages for last week, its nice to see Charles McCormick has found another cousin, or should I say the cousin found Charles. By the time I had gone through the stack of e-mails that piled up while we were away, I was thinking we need to go away more often - found 4 new cousins for our lines. Spare a thought for the way our ancestor's communicated - back in the 19C it would take up to 3 months for letters to get from the UK to Australia, goodness knows how long from Canada (where one new cousin resides) to Australia - the suggestion of a system that allowed daily (or faster) exchange of written communications would probably just about have qualified as witchcraft certainly supernatural. Well, must get back to preparing some more Gedcom's - a lot easier than printing the info out to send out by snail mail - and saves a few trees! ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/188.303.1 Message Board Post: Hello Linda, 1. Peter Hamilton and Isabella McKelvie were my ggg grandparents as well. The Archibald Hamilton who married Elizabeth McMillan would have been my gg grandparents. They had a son Peter who married an Elizabeth Hamilton. They in turn had a daughter Elizabeth (Bessie) who was my grandmother and she married Duncan McCormack. 2. I don't have any information on who the parents of Peter Hamilton and Isabella McKelvie might have been. 3. You may be interested in my home page: http://members.rogers.com/chasmccormick/ 4. It would appear that we are at least 3rd cousins. charles

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/188.303 Message Board Post: Hi Concerning Peter Hamilton and Isabel McKelvie - they are my great great great grandparents. I do not know how many children they had, but one son was Archibald Hamilton, who married Elizabeth McMillan. If you have any information on Peter Hamilton's parents (or Isabel's) I would be interested.

The latest threat is a variant of W32.Bugbear@mm; a full description can be found at: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.bugbear.b@ mm.html This variant first surfaced on 4 Jun, so it's very new, but already doing damage !!!!! If case you've forgotten, this is the one that forges the sender's name (and e-mail address) - if you find bounced mail in your box that you did not send, then this virus has probably picked up a junk mailers e-mail address from it's real victim, added you as the sender and sent it off. As most of the junk mail senders e-mail addresses are made up, replies of any sort will get bounced - in this case back to the forged address. A reminder that you CANNOT become infected through e-mails from RootsWeb Lists, but you CAN become infected through mail received directly from other correspondents - and also remember that often the victim does not know about it..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/539 Message Board Post: I printed off birth certs from the Scots site and these were also on it - here are the details:- ANNIE MORRISON McFIE born 16 May 1897 at Post Office Buildings, Kingarth Father: Daniel McFie - carriage hirer Mother: Margaret Caldwell Parents married in Paisley WILLIAM McKAY born 20 June 1897 at Bruchag? Farmhouse, Kingarth Father: Archibald Martin McKay - Farmer Mother: Margaret McAlister Parents married in Kingarth ELIZABETH McKELLER SPEIRS born 21 November 1893 at ......dale Butt, Kingarth Father: John Speirs - Farm Servant Mother: Mary McKeller Parents married in North Bute HANNAH MACHRIE ORR born 30 October 1893 at Glenarch, Kilchattan Bay, Kingarth Father: William Orr - Tailor Mother: Hannah Machrie (Mochrie?) Parents married Paisley Hope this will help someone in their research

Welcome to all those who have joined or rejoined us since my last post, and thank you to Barbara for keeping an eye on things over the last nine weeks or so. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** The topic "Cemeteries on Isle of Arran" was raised via the Query Board while I was away - if your interests are on Arran, and you have the chance to visit the island, then you will find a copy of the 1985 transcriptions at the Heritage centre. These transcriptions were completed under the 1985 UK government's 'Manpower project' scheme (another name for "Work for the Dole"). ****** ****** ****** There was also a request for assistance re software choice - I hope this was (quite rightly) answered off list - if the enquirer is still looking for information, then please contact me off list. The same enquirer asked about sources such as ancestry.com and legacyfamilytree.com - these sources are on a par with the IGI - they all depend on the accuracy of the original research. All such information should be checked, either by contacting the submitter where known or by checking with the original sources. With the availability of the whole of Scotland Old Parish Registers (OPR) on microfiche at LDS Family History centres and at many FHS's, as well as on the pay for use Scotlands People site; there is no reason why most of the errors in the earlier mentioned sources cannot be eliminated from one's own Family Tree. One thing to be extra careful of is the year when working pre 1752. This is when England, Wales & Ireland changed to the Gregorian Calendar (and lost 11 days in September) Scotland had already changed over in 1600 while Europe had changed in 1582. The main impact in Scotland was the change in the start of the calendar year to 1 January from 1752 - prior to that date the years ran from 25th March to 24th March - thus 1751 was a "short" year running from 25 March to 31 December. Many date transcriptions for the pre 1752 period need to be checked, as many researchers, unaware of the change simply recorded January February and early March dates as the given year which put the event a year earlier when calculating by post 1752 standards. Remember that where a pre 1752 date for these three months gives two years, the year you need to work with for age calculations will generally be the SECOND one. One other thing with dates - if they are all numerals, then check both day/month and month/day combinations especially where they are ambiguous. E.G. 1-12-1855 : for UK this was 1st December 1855, but in the US it was 12 January 1855. Easiest solution is to use the three character abbreviation for the month. ****** ****** ****** There is yet another virus doing the rounds that is aimed at Windows users ... it's an e-mail worm known as either W32/Palyh or W32.HLLW.Mankx@mm If you get an e-mail message from the address support@Microsoft.com -- no matter what the subject or title -- delete it immediately. Do not open it. The subject lines vary, but include: Re: My application Your password Approved (Ref: 38446-263) The attached files have different names, too, but all have a .PIF extension. Examples include password.pif, doc_details.pif, and ref-394755.pif. The virus will only be unleashed if you download the file and click on it Unlike many viruses, this one does not need Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express to run; it only needs the Windows operating system. A special code in the virus allows it to send its own e-mail messages without Outlook. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

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This site has had a few updates today - Births - 7,959 records Deaths - 4,619 records 19,748 records in total!! (And growing as time permits) http://www.sctbdm.com/ Cheers Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/538 Message Board Post: Searching for John ROBERTSON, born C1785 Rothesay, Bute. Daughter Elizabeth ROBERTSON born C1822 Perth Kincardine. Would welcome any help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ROBERTSON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/499.2 Message Board Post: I have a photo of the gravestone of your Florence REID, wife of Jonathan ESKDALE, b C1898, died 23.9.1934. Yongest daughter of Angus ROBERTSON. Whilst in Rothesesay recently, I was looking for a John ROBERTSON, b C1785 and photographed those ROBERTSON headstones that I could find in St Mary's Chapel Cemetary (on a very wet and windy day!) My John ROBERTSON had a daughter Elizabeth, born in Kincardine, Perty C1822. I'd welcome any info you may have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McTaggart McIntaggart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/27.35.1 Message Board Post: Hi, My interest is back a little further than your current line but I will give you the details for future reference. My 5 x great-grandmoter is Christina McIntaggart or McTaggart - both is give in the OPRs. She married in Rothesay in 1798. He father is Duncan Mc(in)Taggart. He was stated in 1798 as late In The Parish Of Kilcalmonell, Argyll. Here are a few notes in case of interest: MCINTAGGART – MISCELLOUS NOTES >From “Book of Arran” Page 244 Rothesay Castle in the charge of Ronald McTaggart. Argyll Strays in 1851 census MCTAGAART CATHRIN 1851 ARL RFW MCTAGGART CATHRINE 1851 ARL RFW MCTAGGART MARGARET 1851 ARL RFW MCTAGGART MARY 1851 ARL LKS CHRISTENINGS OPR Parents: Duncan and Mary McIntaggart Donald 7 Apr 1799 Rothesay Christian 23 Jul 1805 Kingarth Neil 5 Apr 1810 Kingarth Parents: Malcom and Margaret Turner Margaret 17 Feb 1798 Rothesay Parents: Neil and Mary Leitch Duncan 4 Aug 1823 Rothesay Isobel 16 Aug 1818 Rothesay Janet 29 Nov 1811 Rothesay Janet 19 Nov 1815 Rothesay Thomas McLachlane 23 Apr 1826 Rothesay Parents: Geoffrey and Jean McFarlane John 25 May 1806 Rothesay Parents: Donald and Mary Shaw or McGilshighnich George 6 Jan 1799 Rothesay

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mackirdy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/66.222.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I've just found this website and your message. I'm a direct descendant of the Mackirdys in your family tree. My late uncle, Donald Mackirdy, did a great deal of research into the Mackirdy ancestors in and around Rothesay and I believe he had several contacts among the Miller family (possibly your parents). Have you found the GenesConnected website? I have copied my family tree there. Please feel free to contact me direct by email. John Mackirdy (Bedford, England)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/27.35 Message Board Post: My 5x grandfather Neil McTaggart, according to my family history book, was "a showman" (I don't know what that would be) who married Margaret Montgomery and moved to Culevin farm in the south of Bute. Their son Alexander was born in 1832, their twin sons Duncan and Robert in 1834. The family then moved to Illinois in 1854. The McTaggart sons who moved to Illinois (plus their first cousin Alexander Montgomery) all married into the Carswell family, who apparently moved at about the same time from Bute. Neil's brother Daniel apparently came to the United States to work for a Mr. Rankin on the Sculkhill Canal and married Rankin's daughter, Margaret. Neil's two sisters were Isabella and Elizabeth, who never married and presumably stayed on Bute. I have been unable to find any information on Neil McTaggart before his marriage. Do you have information?

Hi John Bunting (1819-1881) In 1846, John, my great grandfather, lived in Milton Street, Cowcaddens (where my grandfather was born). In 1864, he lived in 43 Victoria Street, Rothesay where his wife, Agnes died. I would like to know more about when he and the family moved. Has anyone easy access please to the 1851 Census who will be willing to look up any details from that source? Warmly - Ian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/536.1 Message Board Post: Cunningham District Council surveyed all of the Cemetaries in North Ayrshire and Bute in 1985.I have seen the volumes for Arran at The Scottish Genealogical Scociety in Edinburgh.Copies are probably also held by Ardrossan Library which has a small Family History Unit attached.If you are outside the UK contact the SGS, I am sure they could do a search for you for a fee.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/537 Message Board Post: Hello, My name is Andrew H. Young and I have started a Surname Project for males with the surname YOUNG (all spellings). The Y chromosome is passed through the generations unchanged from father to son. You and/or other males within your family with the surname YOUNG can benefit greatly from participation in this project. LADIES, encourage male YOUNGs in your family to join this project and your family is involved and will benefit from the genealogical information and relationships discovered. Family Tree DNA is offering the test to us at a group rate discount. Among the benefits possible through participation are the opportunities to: 1. Identify others who are related 2. Prove or disprove theories regarding ancestors 3. Solve brick walls in your research 4. Determine a location for further research 5. Validate existing research This systematic, proven method of determining paternal relations can be very cost effective in proving genealogical relationships from the distant past and leapfrog you back to a wealth of substantiated data. I encourage you and/or male YOUNGS in your family to participate in and benefit from this opportunity to learn more about our ancestors. For more insight into the DNA project you may go to this site: http://www.familytreedna.com/ I will receive NO benefits other than those received by other participants. I am looking forward to hearing from males with the surname YOUNG. Thank you, Andrew H. Young