You will probably have had a warning direct from your ISP about this one, (I have) but just in case, there is a new mass mailing Worm on the loose named W32/Mimail The worm arrives in an e-mail that may appear to come from Admin @ your Internet Service Provider and has a Subject header: "Your Account- (followed by variable wording)". There is an attachment which should not be opened under any circumstances. There is little point in trying to contact the Sender's address as this will be forged. As usual, no on-list discussion on this topic, thanks. regards Peter

I quick note to let you know I've updated the 'Deaths' section today. http://www.sctbdm.com/index.htm The site now holds 21,392 records: 8,175 - Births 5,428 - Deaths 4,009 - Marriages 2,654 - Baptisms 101 - Burials 1,025 - Banns Cheers Sue.

Welcome to B & J Mulqueen who have joined this week, and welcome back to Christine Mladen. If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Thanks to Bill for the 1841 update - must make time to get on-line and check things out properly now Kilmory is up! The issue of interpretation of 'weird' entries is one that often appears on lists south of the border. I could fill this page with examples from my wife's side (all Sassenach). The primary rule I have used in interpretation of ambiguous lower case entries is to count the number of vertical strokes, ignoring the horizontal bits and see if they fit the name in question [e.g. Lonlett for Scarlett - once the 'S' is interpreted incorrectly as 'L' (a common error and equally so vice versa), the 'c' has to become 'o' as 'Lc' just doesn't compute - the rest follows suit.] When the household was literate the enumerator had to translate their writing in the same way that we/indexers now interpret the Enumerator's writing - we know the indexers get it wrong on occasion - the enumerators ditto. Where the enumerator only writes the surname once and uses ditto's we have less chance than when it is written on every line. I have a classic case when the ditto was used, but the family spread over two pages - the enumerator took an each way bet and spelt the surname one way on one page and the other on the next - the indexer faithfully recorded the two variants - I wasn't able to confirm the extra family members until I viewed the film. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Hi Graeme, Thanks for your comments, the team has done a great job. My suspicion is that this is possibly an error by the census enumerator and should be F.S. - female servant. (They were, after all, human, and like the rest of us, prone to the occasional error.) The enumerators did have a list of abbreviations that they could use however this wasn't one of them and in all such cases with the transcribing, it is recorded "as is" and left for the researcher to ponder on. Standard abbreviations have been expanded in the database. Grace was the last listing in a household with professional members and it would have been rather uncommon in those circumstances if there was not a domestic employee. While on the subject of the census, Kilmory parish in Arran is now in the database and Kilbride will be available in about 2 days.(Both 1841) Regards Bill Coordinator for Buteshire 1841 FreeCensus Project Link to Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buteshire1841/index.htm

Hi everyone A while ago, Peter mentioned he was having problems with Spam as the holidays were starting. For several months now, I have been using an anti-Spam program that has been working very well. I hasten to add that I have got nothing to do with this program apart from using it. The program works by checking what is in your email mailbox at your ISP, lets you preview any messages and then delete any that you don't want to read, before they actually reach your inbox on your computer, so you don't have to pay to download lots of garbage. You can also block addresses so that any mail from that sender is automatically deleted. This morning when I logged on, there were a total of 45 messages in my 3 separate email addresses. Within 2 mins, I was able to reduce that to 4 messages that I actually wanted to read. Best thing of all, if you only have 1 email address, the program is totally FREE!!! If you have multiple addresses, you need to buy a more up-market copy of the program but it is still fairly cheap (c $20 US). If you are interested in having a look at it, go to www.mailwasher.net for the free version, or www.firetrust.com for the commercial version. Good luck Graeme

I have managed to get the submission form working again at SCT BDM Exchange - what a nightmare!! But in the process have wiped out the Forum. It never rains.. :( I've also updated the site - Births and Marriages, there are now 21,151 records held. http://www.sctbdm.com So keep those names coming in.... Cheers Sue

Hi all Just been looking at the 1841 census & I'm now more confused than I was before :-). Seriously though, thank you to Bill & all his helpers for the work they've done in getting this census on-line. One question regarding an occupation that's listed. Grace GILLIES is shown, aged 21, at Princes St, with an occupation of F.M. Does anyone have any ideas on what that means? A surgeon, James SIMPSON, is also listed for the same address - could F.M. be linked to surgery somehow? Thank you for any suggestions, Graeme Fitzpatrick Gold Coast Queensland Australia

Hello list, I am trying to trace the beginnings of one of my relatives Isabella Hay (nee Orr) Isabellas parents were James Orr and Agnes Pettegrew. From what I can gather the Orr family moved to Maybole, Ayrshire prior to 1841 as they were on the Maybole Census for 1841 but the section for where they were born were all out of the county. Anges Orr 45 William Orr 21 yrs occ seaman Isabella Orr 19 yrs occ Agricultural Labourer Mary Orr 12 yrs James Orr 9 yrs Daniel Orr 6 yrs James Orr does not appear on the census so I assume he has died or living elsewhere. Looking through the LDS site I found this information James Orr b abt 1802 Kilmory Bute Married Agnes Pettegrew 1 Nov 1819 Kilmory Bute Agnes Pettegrew b 1796? Children William Orr b 1821 Isabella Orr b 1823 John Orr b 1827 Mary Orr b 1830 James Orr b 1833 Daniel Orr b 1835 So I suppose the question I am asking does anyone know of this family's history in Kimory, Bute? Also does anyone have details on the parents of James Orr and Agnes Pettegrew, or their siblings? Hope to hear from someone.. Thanks Jenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/99.1 Message Board Post: John I am also researching Alexander Mulholland born July 10th, 1810 at Rothesay, Isle of Bute, Firth of Clyde. Alexander went to Glasgow to work and in 1826 went to England where he married Mary Sanderson. They came to Australia in 1852 and settled in New South Wales. I would assume they are different Alexanders but maybe related in some way. Jenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: shankland Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/544 Message Board Post: My mother's maiden name was Shankland and family legend links two cottages named Mount Stuart in Dumfriesshire with the Crichton-Stuarts. There were early Shanklands on Bute but looking for links.

Hi List, Further to some recent entries on the list re being descendants of Kings of Scotland etc, my family "story" handed down over the years is that we are direct descendants of Mary Queen of Scots! So, I am trying to find if this is possible and if so, which Scottish family it refers to. I have Donald CAMERON, born 1822 near Ballachullish, Argyle, parents Angus CAMERON and Christina MCINTRE (Christina's family goes back to John [of Brecklet] MCINTYRE and John [of Culloden] MCINTYRE). I also have Jane WILSON, born 1828 in Rothesay, Bute, parents Thomas WILSON and Ann FERGUSON (Ann's mother was Catherine STUART). And one more - Dugald CAMPBELL born ca 1812 -17 near Dunoon, possibly Ardintinny or Gle(a)n ferre (a)nt - but as yet I don't know his parentage. Does anyone have any suggestions re which line may have the Mary Queen of Scots connection? Many thanks in advance, Cathy, Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia. Scanned by PeNiCillin http://safe-t-net.pnc.com.au/

No new subscribers this week, as always, if you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon. ****** ****** ****** Having been accidentally blamed earlier this week for sending someone the Bugbear Virus, it is perhaps appropriate to reissue the warning on Virus protection, and to remind new subscribers that 1: you can not get a virus directly from RootsWeb as it strips out ALL attachments, and 2: that with viruses such as Bugbear, the infected machine sends out messages using a false Sender name, so ... a DO NOT open unsolicited attachments b Invest in and install a good Anti-Virus product (eg Nortons / McAfee etc) c Keep that product current with regular updates ****** ****** ****** Copyright - the latest Archive CD Book products come with a detailed and clear Copyright warning, which specifically bans advertising lookups or supplying data from the CDs to second parties. As some of the general Scottish CDs do have items of interest to specific area lists such as this one, I have to ask that subscribers who have purchased such CD's refrain from action which contravenes the Copyright. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

Hi Janet, Work is progressing on putting the 1841 census on-line. The database can be found at; http://freecen.rootsweb.com If you go there you will find on the left-hand side the access to the database. At the time of writing Cumbrae, Kingarth and half of the burgh of Rothesay are on-line and probably within the next 24 hours the second half of the burgh will be added. Work has still to be completed on Arran and the landward part of the Rothesay parish which includes North Bute. Please note that the database is still in its initial setup and there is a phased access to it. You may be able to get on it right away or you will be told how long a delay to expect. Happy hunting Bill Coordinator for Buteshire 1841 FreeCensus Project Link to Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buteshire1841/index.htm

Hi Listers, Could somebody help please. I have tried to access the 1841 Census for Rothesay to find the family of which Neil Jamieson, born 31.12.1832 was the youngest member, born to William Jamieson and Elizabeth King at Barrumore, but I have had no success. I understood that the information is on line, but I cannot find it. Can anybody help please? Any advice? I am researching from Sydney, Australia so would appreciate any assistance. Regards, Janet

No welcome to Audrey who joined and already posted this week as "BUT] TAYLOR SCOTLAND 1800s" - this person, well known as a RootsWeb spammer, unfortunately got under my guard - thanks Barbara for spotting her post. Please do not respond to her messages, and certainly DO NOT send her information - she is simply obtaining the information to 'sell on'. Needless to say, she has been put on the reject list. As always, for the rest, If you haven't already contributed, we hope to hear from you soon - the notes below may help ... ****** ****** ****** Apart from requests for the odd look up, or to see if anyone else is researching the same family, there are numerous topics - directly related to family history and the islands which make up pre 1974 Buteshire - which are open to List discussion. Topics such as civil registration & parish registers (or lack of - either/both registers and registration), non conformist churches (and their records), apprenticeships, how census were conducted, why some Buteshire towns/villages/farms prospered (or not), modes of travel , militia/ naval service, activities around the Islands i.e on the water, naming conventions, etc, etc, etc.- the possibilities are almost endless. These topics will probably be of interest to many Listers. ****** ****** ****** Feel free to join in and present your own items. Peter Cook cookfmly@bigpond.com List maintainer and Co-host with Barbara < babrown12@optonline.net > of the ButeshireGenWeb mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SeC.2ACI/543 Message Board Post: Colin Mackenzie from Stornoway married in 1878 in Rothesay to Lilias Bremner. Several children born in Rothesay - Murdo, William, Margaret, Isabella, Archibald. I'd be please to hear from anyone who has information on this family and its descendants.

Someone in Scotland gave me info on my grandmothers family this info came from 1891 and 1901 Scotland census I would like to extend all these families out all birth dates aprox birth dates and where marriage dates and where death dates and where name of cemetery where buried name of spouse name of children does Ancestry have Scotland info John Taylor (his father Neil Taylor) (his mother Mary McKenzie) b aprox 1844 Isle of Arran county of Buteshire Scotland m 2X 1866 and 1875 d spouse #1 Ellen Jenkins 2 children Neil Taylor b 1870 Ardrossan (Saltcoats?) county of Ayrshire Scotland m d spouse ? children ? Alexander Taylor b 1873 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland (traveled to Africa many times and wrote a book) m d spouse ? children ? spouse # 2 Isabella Clark (her father Daniel or Donald Clark) (her mother Elizabeth Murchie) 8 children Elizabeth Taylor b 1878 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m d spouse ? children ? Thomas Taylor b 1880 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m d prob near Santa Barbara Calif USA (came to US by 1938) Is he on the 1930 census ? spouse ? children ? Isabella Taylor b 1881 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m d spouse ? children ? Mary Taylor (middle initial A = Alice ?) my grandmother b 1884 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m 1913 Innisfail Alberta Canada d ? on year prob 1950 in Regina Sask Canada and body sent to greater Vancouver BC Canada I can not find where she is buried spouse Frederick Charkes Hodge b 1884 ? Grennock or Glasgo Scotland d WW! Belgiun (Flanders Field?) 1917 2 children Catherine Isobel Hodge b 1914 Innisfail Alberta Canada (my mother) Gertrude Mary Hodge b 1916 Innisfail Alberta Canada Margaret Taylor b 1886 Hamilton county of Laanarkshire Scotland m d spouse ? children ? Edward Taylor (went by Ned) teacher b 1888 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m never married d 1988 Victoria BC Canada no children Archibald Taylor b 1889/1890 was 10 mo on the 1891 census m d may have died in Toronto Canada spouse ? children ? Charles Taylor b 1893 Hamilton county of Lanarkshire Scotland m d 1965 England prob London spouse children 1 child Frances Taylor (female) (went by Bunty) b prob 1918 still living 1997 England and never married thanks for any info on these families Audrey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SeC.2ACI/542 Message Board Post: Hi, My name is Shirlyn and I live in the United States in Rochester, New York. I am looking for a Tyre who would been in the United States in the early to mid 1800's, resided in Virginia and had children with a an Black women. My great-grandmother was Julia Tyre. She was born 2/23/1889 or close to that year. Could that someone be one of your family members.

I'll see if I can find out and let you know. My suspicion is that, because AOL is one of the largest ISPs with so many clients, the organizers are concerned that the system may not yet be able to cope with a massive number of hits on the site at one time. (I am however no expert on the subject.) Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <CaledonC@aol.com> To: <ButeshireGenWeb-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: [BUT] 1841 Census : Why AOL delay ??? | Dont quite understand why AOL subscribers seem disadvantaged ?? | | Col frae Crieff | | | ==== ButeshireGenWeb Mailing List ==== | ***************************************************************** ****** | For Websites or WebPages of Buteshire GenWeb subscribers see | http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbutes/homepage.htm | |

Further to Peter's posting I can now report that the first parishes in the county are now in the database (Kingarth, Cumbrae, and Rothesay ED#1-10) By the time those AOL users are able to use the system we should be fairly close to having the entire 1841 census available. Regards, Bill Coordinator for Buteshire 1841 FreeCensus Project Link to Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~buteshire1841/index.htm