Marian: Remember, my lineage: Sadona Hancock (KY) m 1. John Brown in Bartholemew Co, IN 1838 1 child Martha Brown b 1839. He died right afterwards..haven't seen his obit yet. m2. 1840 Decatur Co William Butcher (1804 VA- 1868 IN) -m 1. 1825 Sarah Love: she died . They had 5 sons ) My great grand fatherJohn Bryant Butcher was b 1843, 2 other brothers. They moved to Kokomo, in 1850.where my family is from.. Haven't we talked, I think that I think I'm from a George Butcher line.? You do corresp with Col George Butcher USAF in TX, don't you? He knows a lot . The other lady is a Ray desc but she isn't one of those whom you mentioned. I'll get back to you on this. Aliclia