Hi to all, Two sources give a different line. One source (History of Bucks Co. Pa.) gives as follows (see below). The other source (www.ancestry.com) on the Internet says that 6.4. Elinor Vandergrift is daughter of John, son of Folkert Watson, son of Nicholas. Which is correct? Please kindly help correct if you see any erroor(s). As always, your help will be greatly appreciated. 1. Jacob Leendertszen - Rebecca Frederickse 2. Nicholas Jacobsz.Vandergrift - Barentje Verkerk 3. Foulkard Vandergrift -Elisabeth VanSant (error ?) 4. Foulkard Vanergrift - Elizabeth Watson 5. Jacob Vandergrift m. Ann Walton. Children as follows: (error? Should he be John ? ) 6.1. Levi 6.2. Jacob 6.3. Eliza 6.4. Elinor married BENJAMIN BOUTCHER 6.5. Jane m. William Atkinson. 6.6. Anna m. Adam Vandergrift Sources: "A Genealogical and Personal History of Bucks County, Pennsylvania," by William W[atts] H[art] Davis,Edited by Warren S. Ely and John W. Jordan (1975) [Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1975], p. 641 IGI : www.ancestry.com Regards, Jean ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Shirley, I have UNVERIFIED information that gives a 1649 marriage for Elizabeth BUTCHER and Edward PERKINS of New Haven CT. The only portion I have verified (secondarily) is from Donald Lines Jacobus' book "Families of Ancient New Haven" which confirms a marriage date of 20 Mar 1649. There is no birthdate given for Elizabeth and she is the only BUTCHER listed in the entire index. The book lists children: John, Mehitabel, Jonathan, and David. If this sounds like it may be your Elizabeth, please let me know, I'll be happy to scan the pages and e-mail or snail-mail them to you. Nikki Allen AtlsShrggd@aol.com

From: "David & Eunice Boucher" <dlb613@mindspring.com> To: BOUCHER-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 19:11:58 -0500 Subject: [BOUCHER-L] answers to questions ------------------snip---------------------------------------------------------- >4. John Boutcher Jr. had four sons: John, Samuel, Joseph, >and Benjamin. This is shown by John Jr's will which Jean >posted, dated 17 Dec 1775. >5. Montgomery Co. Orphan's Court Records 707 and >708 (which I have not yet posted) indicate that Benjamin >Boucher (John Jr's son) died in 1786, leaving a son Joseph >and a wife pregnant with a second son. The second son, >also named Benjamin, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Are you referring Benjamin Boucher who died in 1786 to the father of Benjamin Boutcher who was born on February 11, 1786 in Abington township, Philadelphia (now Mont. Co.), Pennsylvania, who was married in 1810 to Elinor Vandergrift who was born in 1771? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >What follows I infer from other records: >John Boucher (III) is probably the one who married Rachel >Bener in Philadelphia on 5 May 1787. There was also a >"Benajmin Butcher" who married Lydia Benner in Feb 1776, >probably John III's brother. (These records in "Pennsylvania >Marriages prior to 1810"). ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Again I believe that you are referring Lydia Benner as ~probably~ mother of Benjamin who was born in 1786??? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > Joseph Boucher married Rachel Walton. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Unless there are two different Josephs, a history of Bucks County, Pennsylvania, gives Elizabeth Killey for Joseph's wife. He is said to have been born on 15 September 1811, the eldest son of Benjamin Boutcher & Elinor Vandergrift. The book goes on saying that Joseph had six children: Children 1. Adeaide S.Boutcher of 2. Cordelia Boutcher Joseph 3. Edward Boutcher 4. William (or Guilelma) Boutcher 5. Natalie Boutcher 6. Benjamin W. Boutcher, b. Dec. 17, 1848, m. 1877 Catharine Cryer Joseph's siblings: 2. Ann, b. 1813, died early in life 3. Jacob, b. 1815 4. Enos, born May 30, 1817; died Dec. 15, 1888; married Elinor Vandergrift 5. Ann Eliza, b. 1819; d. 1902 6. Monroe, b. 1822 7. Washington, b. 1824 8. Robert, b. 1828 9. Elinor, b. 1830 Is this Joseph who m. Rachel Walton different from Joseph who m. Eliz Killey. A record in the same source [Bucks.Co. PA] shows that Joseph Boutcher, who m. Eliz Killey, had an uncle Jacob Vandergrift who married an Ann Walton. It sounds complicated since there were a number of Waltons, Watsons, and Vandergrifts marrying into the Boutcher family. For example, you wrote below: >There is also a marriage record for a >Samuel Boucher and Ann Walton. Regards, Jean-------- 10" blizzard-like snow and still snowing with 35 mph gust and -5 wind chill. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I am looking for the parents/siblings of Augustus Israel Butcher born 1870 in MO. He married Annie Grimes in 1890, place unknown. They had 3 children- Ira, Harry and Bertha, all born in OR. He died in Henrietta, Okmulgee, OK. 1922. any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Kathie Shedd

Benjamin W. Boutcher of Bucks Co. PA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Benjamin W. Boutcher, of Bensalem township, was born in a township December 17, 1848. He traces his ancestry back to Benjmain Boutcher, who emigrated to this country in 1578, and settled on a large tract of land iin Abington township, Philadelphia (now Montgomery county, Pennsylvania. Benjamin Boutcher, son of Joseph Boutcher, and grandson of Benjamin W. Boutcher above mentioned, was born in Abington township, February 11, 1786. He was a wheelwright by trade, but engaged extensively in agricultural pursuits. He married in 1810 Elinor Vandergrift, daughter of Jacob and Ann (Walton) Vandergrift, who was born in 1771 and died October 25, 1850, at the age of eighty years. Nine children were the issue of this marriage, namely: Joseph, born September 15m 1811, mentioned hereinafter. Ann, born 1813; died in early life. Jacob, born 1815. Enos, born May 30, 1817, died December 15, 1888; he married Elinor Vandergrift. Ann Eliza, born September 13, 1819, died July 1, 1902; she was the wife of William M. Vandergrift. Monroe, born 1822. Washington, born 1824. Robert Bickley Boutcher, born 1828. Elinor, born 1830. Benjamin Boutcher, father of these children, was an active and influential man in the community. He was one of the principal factors in the establishment of the public school at Andalusia and the petition circulated by him for that purpose bearing date November, 1822, is still in the possession of his grandson Benjamin W. Boutcher, whose name heads his sketch. On January 15, 1813, Mr. Boutcher purchased of his father-in-law, Mr. Vandergrift, a tract of land in Bensalem and settled thereon. Nicholas Vandergrift, the ancestor of the family of which Mrs. Benjamin Boutcher was a member, was the father of a son, Foulkard Vandergrift, who married Elizabeth Vansant, and they were the parents of a son, Foulkard Vandergrift, who died October 24, 1775, ageed eighty years. He married Elizabeth Watson, and their children were: 1. Jacob, who married Ann Walton, and their children were Levi;Jacob; Eliza, never married; Elinor Vandergrift, wife of Benjamin Boutcher; Jane, who married William Atkinson, died 1887, aged eighty-seven years; and Anna, who married Adam Vandergrift. 2. John, who died March 25, 1805, aged eighty-two years. 3. Foulkard, Jr., who died October 10, 1795, aged sixty-one years. 4._______, who became the wife of Barnet Van Kirk, who died September 12, 1817, aged seventy years. The old graveyard in Maud owned by Foulkard Vandergrift was deeded by him to his four children aforementioned. Joseph Boutcher, eldest son of Benjamin and Elinor (Vandergrift) Boutcher, was born September 15, 1811. At the age of fourteen years he took up the trade of a wheelwright with his father, and followed it during the active years of his life. He married Elizabeth Killey, daughter of Captain Edward and Elizabeth (Kennard) Killey, who was born in Douglass, Isle of Man. Captain Killey was a native of the Man, and came to this country when a young man and learned the trade of a sail maker. During the war of 1812, he was captain of the ship, "Roebuck," and was captured by the British, who claimed him as a British subject, but after the close of the war he returned to Philadelphia and followed his trade. Joseph and Elizabeth (Killey) Boutcher were the parents of six children: Adeaide S., Cordelia, Edward, William, Guilelma, Natalie, and Benjamin W. Benjamin W. Boutcher, son of Joseph and Elizabeth (Killey) Boutcher, was born in Bensalem township, December 17, 1848. He was educated at the local schools, and on arriving at manhood took up the vocation of farming and teaming. In 1877, he was married to Catharine Cryer, daughter of William Cryer, who came from England and settled in Bensalem township. Source: "A Genealogical and Personal History of Bucks County, Pennsylvania," by William W[atts] H[art] Davis, edited by Warren S. Ely and John W. Jordan [1975 [Baltimore: Genealogical Pubishing Co., Inc., 1975] 641. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Looking for information on Elizabeth Butcher (b 1607) who married Edward Perkins in New Haven, CT on March 20, 1629. Thank you. Shirley

To all our wonderful cousins, in-laws or out-laws, as Dickens Tiny Tim said: God bless us everyone! In his introduction to A CHRISTMAS CAROL, 1938 Edition, I quote Lionel Barrymore, the great actor: "To contemplate Charles Dickens' A CHRISTMAS CAROL is to stand in awe before a mighty edifice of heroism and cowardice, anchored deep in the soil of all humanity. Its pinnacle is the homemade crutch of Tiny Tim, bright in a florescent beam of tenderness which touches heaven; while far below, in subterranean darkness, at the foundation a human termite bores at the shoring timbers of charity. " His portrayal of heroic qualities and human frailties.. .Let us not forget those in need all over the world, in mind, body AND estate. This is an exciting time..just think of those who have gone before us...when their 00 year changed! Lets' hope we can make this world a better place and peace will return to us all. . Alicia in Jacksonville, FL ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Does the surname, "MARPLE," ring a bell? I think I have seen it somewhere. Is there a Susannah Marple who was married to "Samuel Boutcher (now Butcher). Happy holidays, Jean --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: Sue Godefroy <godefroy@clara.net> To: Huguenot-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Huguenot] Reposting interests Date: Wed, 22 Dec 99 13:41:51 GMT Message-ID: <991222134151.n0001786.godefroy@mail.clara.net> Hello all and Merry Christmas. I have not posted my interests for some time, but have been watching this space. My interests are; Jean GODEFROY who married Francoise MARPLE when/where probably Rouen Normandy, I have found one son JEAN baptised 14 aug 1707 at Rouen,Jean (2) has son Jean Augustin (de Bolbec) born approx 1740 where?,fled France c.1760 and went to London, married Ester Morrison from Jersey in 1769 at Christchurch Spittlefields. I have confirmed the link through Huguenot Soc records. This is my direct line. Any help/information would be appreciated, I would also love to know/find out how and when Jean Augustin fled France, I think he came with a couple of Brothers, not yet proved ,who may have gone back to France. Robin Godefroy England. --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Noticed we've been a bit quiet of late.... Do anyone else's Butchers here cross the path of Surry County, North Carolina, at any time? Megan "Piglet" Zurawicz piglet@rootsweb.com RootsWeb Community Mentor and Freepmumble http://communities.rootsweb.com

Hello, I am looking for the family of Leo "Buck" Butcher he married Irene Farmer, they were living in Shaniko,Ore. Buck owned a gas station in Shaniko, they had the following children: Lemoin,Maralind,Harold,Calvin,Linda? I am working on the family tree and this branch of the tree I do not have, I would like to find some family members of this side of the tree, so I can share our family with them. Sincerely Mrs.Jody Farmer mystic@kalama.com

I am looking for infromation on Emma Butcher. She was listed in her fathers obituary and being in Gas City, IN. which would be Grant, Co. IN. The obitury was of Coleman Butcher who died August 20,1907 at Hartford City, Blackford Co. IN. Would appreciate hearing form anyone who knows anything about this Emma Butcher. Robert Miles rmiles@bloomingdaletel.com

Good luck to you! From Yakima, Washington, (about 130 miles east of Seattle. Hello! We are in Grade 5 at Bill Arp Elementary School in Douglasville, GA which is about 20 minutes west of Atlanta, GA USA. We have decided to map an email project. We are curious to see where in the world our email will travel between the period of Sept. 21 - Nov. 19, 1999. We would like your help. If you receive this message, we would like you to do two things: 1) Email us and tell us where you live. 2) Forward our message to as many people you can. Thank you for any help that you can give! Our email address is class5a1999@yahoo.com Your friends, Mr. Blevins' Grade 5 Class Bill Arp Elementary School Douglasville, GA USA

I was looking at the 1856 January to March General Records Office Index of marriages and thought I might as well extract all the Butchers and put them on this list, just in case they were of any use to anyone. (Always check the original - as mistakes are often made during copying and some of the text is not very readable) The exact marriage date is not given in the index, you have to order the marriage certificate for that, but it at least tells us that the marriage was registered in Jan, Feb or March of 1856 and I assume that marriages are registered at the time of the event. Maybe someone can confirm that or not for me. Layout is :- Surname, Forenames, District, Volume, Page Butcher, Abraham, Mildenham,4a,619 Butcher, Alice, Fylde, 8e,575 Butcher, Ann,Rotherham,9e,420 Butcher, Anne,Risbridge,4a,457 Butcher, Brighton,Ursbech,3b,844 Butcher, Caroline,Alverstone,2b,643 Butcher, Charles,Mildenhall,4a,615 Butcher, Charlotte,E Ashford,2a,601 Butcher, Eleanor,Alverstone,8e,690 Butcher, Eliza,Maldon,4a,228 Butcher, Elizabeth,Portsea,2b,491 Butcher, Elizabeth Ann,Gravesend,2a,285 Butcher, Ellen,Hoyu?,4a,721 Butcher, Ellen,Kaynn?,4b,636 Butcher, Ellen,Warminster,5a,198 Butcher, Frederick,Halsleud?,4a,379 Butcher, George,Kensing~~,1a,83 Butcher, George,Sheffield,9c,243 Butcher, Hannah,Clifton,6a,215 Butcher, Hannah Love,Medway,2a,338 Butcher, Harriot,Bethnal G,1c,560 Butcher, James,Leighton B,3b,582 Butcher, James,Ely,3b,781 Butcher, James Freeman Edwards, Stow, 4a,647 Butcher, John,Islington,1b,272 Butcher, Judith,Sudbury,4a,501 Butcher, Mary Reynolds,Maidstone,2a,503 Butcher, Paul,Birmingham,6d,157 Butcher, Samuel,Poplar,1c,919 Butcher, Susanna ?oster, Stoke G?, 5b 610 Butcher, William,Chorlton,8e,484 Butcher, William John, Bethnal G,1c 487 Butchart, Janet, Manchester, 8d,77 Boucher, Emma, Lincoln,7a,6?? Boucher, Frederick,Camberwell,1d,56? Boucher, Mary,?llerby,8b,4? Boucher, Mary,Nellington,5e,541 That's it. The question marks are where I couldn't make out what it said. The ~~ is my representation of a squiggly line that was on the original. This also raises the question in my mind as to whether I am wasting my time because someone may have already extracted the Butchers from the GRO indexes. Does anyone know if this is so or not? Graham Butcher West Midlands England

Looking for any information on Leopoldine (Pauline) Butscher b1839 in Baden,Germany and d1909 in New Orleans,La. She married Alouise Weiss 1861 in NewOrleans Pauline had a sister Elizabeth who was married to Alexandre Watzke. Other names I've come across but don't know how related: William, Franceaca, Remigus, Charles and Clara Butscher. Thanks for any help, Joy ===== joywinn@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

Robert Miles Where is Blackford CO, IN ? My Butchers : 2 great-grandfather WILLIAM BUTCHER's son, my great- grandfather was John Bryant Butcher b Howard Co 1843, son of 2 wife SADONIE/A Hancock Brown. m Sarah Jane THOMAS, in Poplar Grove, Howard Co, IN near Kokomo. William's 1st wife was Mary Butcher.. I don't know anything about them. Mine: William Butcher (b 1804, VA) m 2. Sadonie/a Hancock Brown (b 1810 KY) --settled first in Decatur CO, IN 1853, moved to Howard Co and farmed til 189 4-5 when he died. I read his name in 1830 & 1840 census Decatur CO, WILLIAM and WILLIAM C...? My g- grandfather JOHN Bryant, was born there along with his 2 older brothers(?) (step(?) don't know who is who yet. Saul Theodore(b 1834) , George Washington,(b1830) step brothers: Abraham P. and Isaac M. and 3 more--- These 5 names were the .only ones listed in MORROW"S "HISTORY of Howard CO. and in Blanchard's " History of Howard Co, 1883. Ervin Township I don't know the others' names-- Abraham, Isaac T, Saul T, John B, George W. BIll Butcher had 5 sons by his first wife, 3 by Sadona. Which ones are hers, I don't know. I think George and Saul cause they're listed in 1860..but...? Perhaps your names are related? 1860 Census: Kokomo, HOWARD CO William Butcher 56 yr old ( VA born) Sadona 50 yr old ( KY born) George W. 30 yr old Solomon (Saul T) 24 yr old John Bryant 17 yr old Sadona A . 8 yr old. Don't know what happened to the daughter, Sadona A. either. I only went back for the first time in 1994. Alicia in jacksonville, FL.

Last Name, Bride or Groom First Name, Bride or Groom Last Name, Spouse First Name, Spouse County Date Remarks BUTCHER COLMAN POWELL FRANCES E Blackford 01-25-1849 BUTCHER ELIZA JANE POWELL LEWIS Blackford 01-04-1849 BUTCHER ELIZABETH FLORY SAMUEL Blackford 07-21-1841 BUTCHER MARY ANN HUDSON T HEOPHILLUS H Blackford 12-09-1849 BUTCHER NANCY GARROTT JOHN Blackford 01-20-1842 Here are the only other Butcher Marriages from Blackford Co. IN. Before 1850. Does anyone have any of them in their family history. If so then I would like to hear form you. Robert Miles rmiles@bloomingdaletel.com

Last Name, Bride or Groom First Name, Bride or Groom Last Name, Spouse First Name, Spouse County Date Remarks POWELL FRANCES E BUTCHER COLEMAN Blackford 01-25-1849 POWELL LEWIS BUTCHER ELIZA JANE Blackford 01-04-1849 These two marriages was taken form the Indiana State Library. Indiana State Library Genealogy Division Indiana Marriages Through 1850 The top marrriage was my my GGGGrandparents. Does anyone know who the other Powell marriage is? Does anyone have them in their family history??? . Was Lewis Powell a brother of Frances Ellen Powell???. Does anyone know if Coleman and Eliza Jane Butcher were brother and sister??? Looking for some answers and anyone with them in their family history.. Robert Miles rmiles@bloomingdaletel.com

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Just adding to the roll-call. Huldah Mary Butcher, straw bonnet maker married George Willerton Brown on Ist August 1846 at Christchurch, St-George-in-the East,London, England. She was the daughter of Robert Butcher, market gardener. Huldah died in the Bromley sick asylum in 1880 of bronchitis aged 53. She was born therefore about 1827,but (thoughtless wench!) apparently didn't get herself registered or baptised anywhere. Looking for more details on this disobliging gt-granny of mine. Glenda Burkett in N.Z.

Thought I would post my BUTCHER interest. Looking for Emma BUTCHER born 1833 in England. Daughter of Charles BUTCHER, sister of Ephram. Charles, immagrated to the United States with Emma and Ephram, leaving other children in England. Not sure when they came to the States. Charles married a Caroline GAGE in Benton, NY. According to Charles's will Emma was married to a FISK. If this information rings a bell with anyone I would love to hear from you. Thank you Sheila