I was reading a 2/20 message from Marian Dunlap about Shelby Co., In. She mentioned a George and William Butcher. I am researching a George Butcher (born 1803 in Pittsylvania County, Va.) whose grandfather was named William (born 1750 in Prince William, Va. George and his family moved to Hancock County, Ind and George later moved to Shelby County Illinois. Williams father was John (born about 1705 and died 1778 in Loudon County, Va. I was wondering if this is the same family and if you know any more about John. Thanks, Nora Crauthers

I have Butcher's In New Orleans. Who are you looking for? Cyndi ----- Original Message ----- From: <R1DEWFO@aol.com> To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Butcher] Butcher/Clayton > There are some Butcher in New Orleans, I know, I can't think of there e-mail > sorry. Doris > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

'm sorry but, my Butcher were in TN, IN, Ill & Ia from 1808-NOW. Maybe someday we will connect. Doris

There are some Butcher in New Orleans, I know, I can't think of there e-mail sorry. Doris

I'm sorry but, my Butcher were in TN, IN, Ill & Ia from 1808-NOW. Maybe someday we will connect. Doris

Posted on: BUTCHER Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries/10048 Surname: ------------------------- I am looking for Helen Mae Butcher, b. abt. 1865 in Pass Christian, Miss. to Will Butcher and Mary Clayton. I know about Wil and little about Mary. I have a picture of her that was taken in Starkville,Miss. I believe she was born abt.1847. Helen Mae married J.Jones abt.1900 and had 2 sons, Wallace Boone Jones and Douglas Snedecor Jones. She married again to J. Wason. Helen Mae lived the last 24 years in Galveston Co. Tx. where she died in 1944. She may have been married before she married J. Jones. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Alicia, I agree that your William Butcher (of Clinton Tp, Decatur Co IN) is descended from the George Butcher whose probate was in Decatur Co IN. I don't know anything about the George Butcher you say you correspond with. Do you think he might know about the two children Samuel and Hannah Butcher who belong to your younger William Butcher and my Deborah Jane Ray? Deborah is in the 1860 mortality schedule for Decatur Co IN which says she died with the ague, and your young William Butcher is listed with no wife and the two young children. Deborah was the younger sister of my James H. Ray who married MY William Butcher's (Fugit Tp Decatur Co IN) daughter Margaret R. Butcher in Decatur Co IN. Sure gets complicated, doesn't it? Nothing like finding four William Butcher's in the same county in the census! Marian

Marian: Remember, my lineage: Sadona Hancock (KY) m 1. John Brown in Bartholemew Co, IN 1838 1 child Martha Brown b 1839. He died right afterwards..haven't seen his obit yet. m2. 1840 Decatur Co William Butcher (1804 VA- 1868 IN) -m 1. 1825 Sarah Love: she died . They had 5 sons ) My great grand fatherJohn Bryant Butcher was b 1843, 2 other brothers. They moved to Kokomo, in 1850.where my family is from.. Haven't we talked, I think that I think I'm from a George Butcher line.? You do corresp with Col George Butcher USAF in TX, don't you? He knows a lot . The other lady is a Ray desc but she isn't one of those whom you mentioned. I'll get back to you on this. Aliclia

Alicia, I went back to my file to see what I could find on the Shelby Co IN connection. It was for the RAY family, and not the Butcher family. If the lady you have reference to was descended from either Samuel or Hannah Butcher, Samuel's name would be Butcher and Hannah's would be who knows what! The lady I wrote in Shelby Co Indiana was Mrs. Dorothy Plymate, and there was a reference to her in a DAR magazine I had found at our library. I think it was a write-up of the dedication of a DAR marker for Thomas Ray, her ancestor. It was she who then gave my letter to Mr. Steven Ray who lived at Shelbyville. I found another Ray descendant from my Margaret R. Butcher who married James H. Ray in Decatur Co IN. He had a lady helping him with some research and it turned out that she had found where Margaret had applied for a widow's pension from her third husband who had served in the Civil War! She sent me a copy of it, and Margaret names her parents as William S. Butcher and Christena Hildebrand. She also named and gave dates for her siblings, which included the Moses Butcher I had found a Civil War Pension application for, but had not proved he belonged. In Decatur Co IN I had found marriages for two more Butcher girls older than Margaret R., who didn't seem to fit the George Butcher family, and had believed they no doubt were older children of my William Butcher, Sr. That leaves those two ladies unidentified! Unless my William had been married before and they were his from an earlier marriage and Margaret didn't name them! There are always more questions when we find a few answers, aren't there? There is no hurry--it will take you a while to get situated if you are as slow as I am about these things! Thanks. Marian

Posted on: BUTCHER Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries/52 Surname: Butcher, Schubert, Shubert, Newnam, Bussey ------------------------- Trying to locate any UK or connected to UK Butcher family members. Henry and Ella Mae (S) Butcher immigrated to US (NY, Ellis Island) circa 1923, possibly from SW London. Grandfather Henry Frederick Butcher may be from Walthamstowe, Eng. His wife was Ella Mae Bussey Newnam (?), poss. from SW London. Henry had 3 siblings, Elsie (not married), Robert(not married) and George(no info). Wife Ella Mae, poss. no siblings, may have been adopted by Newnam family ( George Albinus and Nell Newnam ). Need info ASAP! Thanx! S.Sanders

Hi I was wondering if anyone had information on these two Benjamin BUTCHER'S that are in Ste. Genevieve County, MO. Divorces and Separations in Missouri 1808--1853 by Lois Stanley-George F. Wilson and Maryhelen Wilson page 4 BUTCHER< Thodise (Divorce) Ste Genevieve CO. INP Aug 1824 by next friend Charles Guffier vs. Benjamin INP means= Independent Patriot, Jackson (Cape Giradeau CO.) Wide area SE. MO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MO PIoneers Vol 19: Abstracts of Wills and Admrs. 1807-1855 Butcher, Benjamin intestate. Admr. Jane Butcher widow of the dec'd 08 Oct 1819 Sec. Elisha Belsha and Jas. Preston vol A page 75 Thanks, Theresa Cate Richardson http://www.geocities.com/alwysrunnin

Posted on: BUTCHER Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries/51 Surname: Butcher ------------------------- I went to school with Mary Ann Butcher she married and the last name I have for her Was Deaver she devoriced and has possibly remarried. The last contact I had with her was in Bartlesville Ok. I know she had at least three child all should be grown by now. She had one brother Jody Butcher I have not heard from him after he came back from Vietnam.

No, sorry I don't.

Marian: I thought the lady said she was one of the children's desc..or was that you? She was president of a DAR chapter... I am moving into my new ly-restored (2 1/2 years work) 1910 house and all the files are over at "My Old House"...in the butcher listing and when I get to them next month I'll see. Ok? Alicia

Alicia, Early on I had made a connection with a Ray family in Shelby Co IN I had found in the DAR magazine, but who said they weren't our line, and she passed it on to another Ray line in the county and he also said they didn't belong to us. I don't know who the Deborah there might be, do you? Marian

Marian: We are cousins -in-law but I never found the Ray kids either There is a lady, DAR in Selby who is of that line RAY. Deborah ....I think. Did you find her? Alicia

--- Marian Dunlap <mdunlap@effingham.net> wrote: > Alicia, > Early on I had made a connection with a Ray > family in Shelby Co IN I > had found in the DAR magazine, but who said they > weren't our line, and > she passed it on to another Ray line in the county > and he also said they > didn't belong to us. I don't know who the Deborah > there might be, do > you? > Marian > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, > Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Dear Tom, The following was obtained from researchers on PaBucks-L@rootsweb.com HUGUENOT -- The original ancestor for this BESSONETTE line was either Charles de Bessonet, Huguenot who went to England or Ireland following the revocation of the Edict of Nantes and who came to America about 1685, with his son John. He settled in Bensalem Township, Bucks County, Pennsylvania and purchased land in Bucks County in 1690. Another sources says: Huguenot Pioneers, Pennsylvania Huguenot Society, 1956, page 4, Bessonnett, Claude, came from Southern Franc e, Ch: Charles John, 1685 settled Bensalem Twp., Bucks Co., Pa. John m.Sarah Dye in 1720 Will of John BESSONETT of Burrough of Bristol File 1580-dated March 4, 1774-Proved October 26, 1778 wife Joyce Son John (of New York City) and son Charles of Bristol Exrs. Son Catherine [must be typo and probably is Daniel by transcriber] Daughters Catherine GOHEEN Anne BOUCHER Martha JOHNSON Children of late daughter Elizabeth LARZALERE, dec'd Children of deceased daughter Mary MITCHELL Children of late daughter Sarah BODINE John, son of son John Martha BRELSFOARD, dau of wife Joyce Witnesses: Sims BETTI John BROWN Pioneers of the 18th Century Bucks County, PA, Williams, Richard T. and Mildred C., Danboro, PA, 1974, pg. 19 John Bessonet his family was in Bensalem as early as 1729, for on 6th of January of that year, John Rodman made a conveyance to John Bessonet. His will was proved 1778 and, names his children Daniel, John, Charles, Catharine, Martha, Anne and Elizabeth.Jeanne Larzalere Bloom Chicago, jebloom @mcs.net392;Thomas BUTCHER of the County of Bucks in the Province of Pennsylvania, yeoman, and Richard JOHNSON of the City of Burlington ...bound to]...William FRANKLIN, Governor...New Jersey...500 pounds... 19 June 1765... Thomas BUTCHER... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Anne BISNETT of the same place. From: Jeanne Larzalere Bloom mailto:jebloom@mcs.net" mailto:jebloom@mcs.net To:PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com PABUCKS-L Boucher Boutcher Butcher Hi Jean- Here is tidbit for your files. ANNEÇBESSONNETT probably married BOUCHER. Pioneers of the 18th Century Bucks County, PA, Williams, Richard and Mildred Danboro, PA, 1974 pg. 19 John Bessonet...his family was in Bensalem as early as 1729, for on 6th of January of that year, John Rodman made a conveyance to John Bessonet. His will was proved 1778 and, names his children Daniel, John, Charles, Catharine, Martha, Anne and Elizabeth. Material received August 5,1997 from Stephen Ludwell Larzelere Family Name Search: Larzalere, Miscellaneous Data from New York, New Jersey and Bucks County, Pennsylvania", from the files of Mildred Corson Williams, P.O. Box 776, Newtown, Pennsylvania 18940, unnumbered page Will John BESSONETT of Burrough of Bristol File 1580-dated March 4, 1774 Proved October 26, 1778 wife Joyce John NewYork City) Charles Bristol, Catherine Daughters Catherine Anne BOUCHERMartha JOHNSON Children of late daughter Elizabeth LARZALERE, dec'd Children of deceased daughter Mary MITCHELL Children of late daughter Sarah BODINE John, son of son John Martha BRELSFOARD, dau of wife Joyce Witnesses: Sims BETTI - John BROWN Jeanne Larzalere Bloom Chicago,IL From: "Jim and Cathy Gaw" <gawlair@azstarnet.com> To: PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 20:03:33 -0700 Subject: Re: [PABUCKS-L] Bessonett The following is taken from: "The trail of the Huguenots in Europe, the United States South Africa and Canada" by G. Elmore Reaman, page 131. "Huguenots came in to Bucks County as early as 1738 and, on the banks of the Delaware, the Bessonet from Dauphine, France, settled along with numerous other Huguenot families." No other information given. Hope this helps. Jim Gaw, a voice from the Arizona Desert. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Daniel" <bamabunny@gcronline.com> To: <PABUCKS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 19:13 Subject: [PABUCKS-L] Bessonett > Does anyone have any information on the Bessonett family(Huegunots) who settled in Bucks county in the early 1700's? Charles Bessonett ran an inn, I believe called George II, and a ferry. He had a daughter named Martha who married a Richard Johnson

Dear Tom, Here are the marriage records of your ancestors. John Bessonet was unquestionably related to your ancestor Anne Bessonette. Perhaps it might be possible that Jonathan Butcher was connected with your Thomas? Please see more information in my following email. Regards, Jean Boutcher Vitals: Marriages: Bucks Co. residents listed in Early NJ Marriage Bond Abstracts 1711-1797, Bucks Co PA Contributed for use in the USGW Archives by Patricia M. Bergener PA Marriages catalogued by Sonja. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nj/njfiles.htm Note: Identified Philadelphia and Bucks County residents are separately listed under those counties in these archives. Vol. B (1711-1797) Vol. B #392 - Thomas Butcher of Bucks County, Pa., Yeoman... 19 June 1765...obtained license of marriage for himself and for Anne Bisnett, also of Bucks County, Pa., spinister. Vol. B. #402 - John Bessonet (Besonet) (Note: the spelling of the surname in parentheses is that of the signature) of Middleton in the County of Bucks in Pennsylvania...21 December 1765... obtained license of marriage for himself and for Joyce Bransford, widow, in the Burrough and Proivince of af'sd. Vol. B #517 - Jonathan Butcher of Bucks County, Pa...6 June 1771 ...obtained license of marriage for himself and for Anne Bowne, also of Bucks County, Pa. __________________________________

Alicia, If you get any response on your query about your Wm. Butcher's son William Butcher who married (1) Deborah Jane Ray and was in the 1860 census still in Decatur Co IN with children Samuel and Hannah I hope you will let me know. I have never had a clue as to what happened to the two children after that census. Just that you thought they all moved to Howard Co. The Deborah Jane Ray Butcher was in the Mortality Schedule for 1860 and it said she died of ague. Deborah was the youngest sister of my GrGrandfather James Harvey Ray. Marian