Hi Mary, Some of my Butcher cousins and I have had this conversation many times. What we have found is that the surname "METZGER" is German for Butcher. To our knowledge there is no connection between the German and English Butchers. I have a two-fold interest in the surname Butcher as that is my husbands surname and also I have a Butcher that popped up in my Ingram line. Also I would like to say hi to Bette. Long time since I've heard from you also. Haven't found anything new on the our Butcher line in a long time. Great web page. Take care and have a great Easter. Diane M. Butcher ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Young <tom@conknet.com> To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Butcher] Butcher Family > Bette, > > I find this German part of the Butcher family very interesting. I came from > John, then Gabriel Butcher, > a Quaker from England. To your knowledge is there any connection between > the German Butchers and > the English Butchers? It might have been just a name that was easy to > acquire. Just curious? Thanks! > > Mary > > PS: You did a great job on your web page!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@home.com> > To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 11:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Butcher] Butcher Family > > > > Well, how are you? It has been a long time, since have heard from you. How > is your research > > going for you? I get on the lists and then get tired of all the mail and > drop off again. I > > noticed that a bunch of the "old gang" dropped off the Hacker's Creek list > after a while. I > > got so sick of hearing them rave about ramps, that I thought I would > scream. And really got > > nothing worthwhile from it. I hear from Joy every now and then. I don't > know who is all on > > this Butcher list anymore. > > > > Have a great Easter. Are your folks around right now? Jim generally tells > me when they leave > > for the Islands and I haven't heard from him in some time, come to think > of it. > > > > Bette > > > > -- > > Bette Butcher Topp - > > > > Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to > > visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm > > > > My ahnentafel chart may be found at > > http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm > > > > > > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > > > > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Bette; Good to see you back on the lists. Jim Bartlett jimbartlett@mindspring.com (new) Gaithersburg, MD On Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:56 PM, Bette Butcher Topp [SMTP:toppline@home.com] wrote: | I am new to the list but have been researching since 1976. I descend | from Paulser Butcher who was born 26 Jan 1753 in Frederick Co.,MD as | Balthaser Metzger. He was the s/o Georg Valentin Metzger b. 19 Apr 1715 | Mainzweiler, Germany and Maria Elisabeth Kieffert, who m. 6 Dec 1739 | Niederlinxweiler, Germany (Saarland area). | | We have this family back two more generations. Paulser went into | western VA and the Butcher family remained in WV forever. Happy to | exchange material. | | Bette | | -- | Bette Butcher Topp - | | Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to | visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm | | My ahnentafel chart may be found at | http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm | | | | ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== | Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at | http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries | | ============================== | Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Sorry list, I replied to a private email from my cousin, and inadvertently sent it right to the list. Excuse it please. Bette

Well, how are you? It has been a long time, since have heard from you. How is your research going for you? I get on the lists and then get tired of all the mail and drop off again. I noticed that a bunch of the "old gang" dropped off the Hacker's Creek list after a while. I got so sick of hearing them rave about ramps, that I thought I would scream. And really got nothing worthwhile from it. I hear from Joy every now and then. I don't know who is all on this Butcher list anymore. Have a great Easter. Are your folks around right now? Jim generally tells me when they leave for the Islands and I haven't heard from him in some time, come to think of it. Bette -- Bette Butcher Topp - Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm My ahnentafel chart may be found at http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm

Do you have a Russell Kirt Butcher 1897 to 1965 Wv Or his father David L Butcher he came form Md and setteled in Grafton Wv Thanks David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@home.com> To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:56 PM Subject: [Butcher] Butcher Family > I am new to the list but have been researching since 1976. I descend > from Paulser Butcher who was born 26 Jan 1753 in Frederick Co.,MD as > Balthaser Metzger. He was the s/o Georg Valentin Metzger b. 19 Apr 1715 > Mainzweiler, Germany and Maria Elisabeth Kieffert, who m. 6 Dec 1739 > Niederlinxweiler, Germany (Saarland area). > > We have this family back two more generations. Paulser went into > western VA and the Butcher family remained in WV forever. Happy to > exchange material. > > Bette > > -- > Bette Butcher Topp - > > Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to > visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm > > My ahnentafel chart may be found at > http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm > > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Sorry, did not find one. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Jones <djones2@ec.rr.com> To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [Butcher] Butcher Family > Do you have a Russell Kirt Butcher 1897 to 1965 Wv Or his father David L > Butcher he came form Md and setteled in Grafton Wv > Thanks David > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bette Butcher Topp" <toppline@home.com> > To: <BUTCHER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:56 PM > Subject: [Butcher] Butcher Family > > > > I am new to the list but have been researching since 1976. I descend > > from Paulser Butcher who was born 26 Jan 1753 in Frederick Co.,MD as > > Balthaser Metzger. He was the s/o Georg Valentin Metzger b. 19 Apr 1715 > > Mainzweiler, Germany and Maria Elisabeth Kieffert, who m. 6 Dec 1739 > > Niederlinxweiler, Germany (Saarland area). > > > > We have this family back two more generations. Paulser went into > > western VA and the Butcher family remained in WV forever. Happy to > > exchange material. > > > > Bette > > > > -- > > Bette Butcher Topp - > > > > Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to > > visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm > > > > My ahnentafel chart may be found at > > http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm > > > > > > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

I am cleaning out my Butcher files that I have accumulated over the years and have found documents not relating to my Butcher line. If anyone out there would like the following, just let me know and I will forward to you. Here is what I found. One page document - BUCKEYE CEMETERY Susan, wife of J. Butcher, born Sept. 22, 1816, died Jan. 19, 1855; Jeremiah Butcher, born Mar. 20, 1824, died Apr. 14, 1887; Lucretia E., wife of J. Butcher, born Sept. 15, 1814, died June 4, 1888. (Veterans Flag on Grave). Outline Report: 5 generations chart listing descendants of Isaac Butcher, b. 12 Dec. 1784 Va sp- Narcisus Rebecca Rentfro b. 24 Jan 1785 VA Copy of a letter written to Harriet C. Fausett Bean Quincy, Hickory Co., Mo. 9 March 1891 It is signed A.J. Butcher (son of Isaac Butcher, Jr.). This letter has family information about this Butcher family. Family Group Sheet for Isaac Butcher b. 12 December 1784 in Loudon, Va. and Narcissus Rebecca Rentfro b. 24 Jan. 1785 Va. It lists 11 children with sources and LDS ordinances. E-mail I received in 1997 list descendants of George Valentine Metzger (Butcher) b. April 1715 in Mainzweiler, Germany. Family Group Record for David Clark b. 06 March 1866 in SLC, Utah and Sarah Elizabeth Butcher b. 28 June 1872 in Upper Caldecott, Bedford, England. List children, marriages of children. Family Group Record for Michael Clark and Eliza Smuin who were the parents of the above David. This group sheet contains copies of photo's of the family. Not real clear but clear enough to see what they looked like. Family Group Record for Eli Butcher b. 15 August 1777 m. to Elizabeth Hart d. 18 April 1825. List children, some dates and other info. Incomplete but a start. Let me know if you are interested. Please send fax number if available. Good luck on your research. Diane M. Butcher Anchor Point, Alaska dbutcher@ptialaska.net Family History Research on the following Surnames: BRUCE > Scotland, Utah. BUTCHER > England, Virginia, Illinois, Missouri and Utah. DAVIS > Wales, Pennsylvania HAWLEY > England, Pennsylvania. HICKMAN > England, Virginia, Utah. EMPEY > England, Utah. MINNOCH > England, Utah. INGRAM> England, Pennsylvania. KOLLER > Bayerdilling, Bavaria, Germany, Pennsylvania. STOW/STOWE > England, New England States, Utah.

I am new to the list but have been researching since 1976. I descend from Paulser Butcher who was born 26 Jan 1753 in Frederick Co.,MD as Balthaser Metzger. He was the s/o Georg Valentin Metzger b. 19 Apr 1715 Mainzweiler, Germany and Maria Elisabeth Kieffert, who m. 6 Dec 1739 Niederlinxweiler, Germany (Saarland area). We have this family back two more generations. Paulser went into western VA and the Butcher family remained in WV forever. Happy to exchange material. Bette -- Bette Butcher Topp - Please use my new email toppline@home.com and be sure to visit me at - http://www.members.home.com/toppline/homepage.htm My ahnentafel chart may be found at http://www.members.home.com/toppline/antafl.htm

According to material that I myself did not reseach there was a Lewallen Butcher who was born December 3,1860 and died May 19,1953. However, according to this material he was both born and died in Wright County Missouri.But his father Prior Butcher was born in Anderson County Tennesse March 9, 1831 and died in Wright County Missouri November 25, 1880. He would have been my Grandfathers first cousin as his father and my great-grandfather were brothers. Could this be the same man you were asking about? Don Butcher

George Archer. Can you help with names of Samuel 's children? My William,ba 1803 VA" son of George-- William has son, George WIlliam and another -"my" John. Alicia in FL

>I agree that 1732 was not Samuel's birthyear. >Was he born ca. 1680? Who knows. I have no evidence of an exact birth date. Please provide your descendancy from Samuel on or off list. George Archer

Hi, while looking through ship lists for my BURTCHER/BURTSCHER family I ran across Jn BUTCHER and thought it might help someone on the list. Theresa Cate Richardson http://www.geocities.com/alwysrunnin List of Passengers on Board the Ship Nassau, Josiah Hunt, Master. [October 11, 1786.] Names: Mr Apple, wife & son Jno Eatman, wife & 2 daughs Peter Salcon, wife & son Fredk Riderband George Paysel Jno Chirstian Wm Kennick Michl Harpers Ludwick Jack Henry Shrouder Tobias Shipherd Adam Symons Jn Butcher Jn Farrell Joh Feyil Jon Suvers

Alicia, No, but I think that the best informant would be George Archer since he is a direct descendant of Samuel who "went to Loudoun from Pennsylvania". Regards, Jean On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:16:18 -0400 alicia d frank <alicia.df1@juno.com> writes: > Sealover: > Do you have any inkling what Samuel of VA's children were named? or > when > he went to VA? > ALicia > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Nora: My William BUTCHERs lived in Decatur Co,then moved in 1850 to Howard Co, IN. They were son and a grandson of the GEORGE BUTCHER whom Marian Dunlap referenced. The CLINTON twp,Decatur Co, IN WILLIAM is "mine". He m 1825 1. Sarah Love and 1840 2. Sadona (Hancock ) Brown - Mom of my great-grandfather John Bryant Butcher. b 1843 Do you have any dates for their ancestor GEORGE BUTCHER in VA? William Sr was born in VA, ba 1804-d 1868 Kokomo, Howard Co, VA. Regards, Alicia

Sealover: Do you have any inkling what Samuel of VA's children were named? or when he went to VA? ALicia

Hello everyone, My great grandfather on my fathers side was an Edward BUTCHER b:abt 11 Jan 1887 - d:1929. He married a Rosetta HILL and they had ten children, Edward (eldest son) - b:1 Mar 1909 - d: 24 Apr 1956 Rose Ann (eldest daughter) - b:27 Nov 1911 - d:1976 Charlotte Ada Elsie ( only living) - b:1915 William Gladys Horace Joseph (JOE) Daisy Betty (maybe Elizabeth) died in infancy George died as baby My g.g.grandfather was also called Edward and he married a Charlotte but I have no dates for these as yet. Would be eternally grateful for any info received. Thanks in advance Angela MAYCOCK, Birmingham, England

Alicia, I would love to learn more about William's roots. There was no name "William" in the John Boucher/Boutcher family in Pennsylvania before the Revolutionary war. The names they used for generations were John, Benjamin, Samuel, Joseph, and Enos. Enos, who married Eleanor Vandergrift, named his son, "William," in honor of his father-in-law William Bloomfield Vandergrift. (Source: History of Bucks Co. PA by Davis (look for Benjamin Boutcher and William Bloomfield Vandergrift). William Bloomfield Vandergrift's grandson was a Democratic senator for Pennsylvania. Incidentally, Samuel lived in a town called "Bloomfield." Samuel, who went to Loudoun County, Virginia, was the only member in the family whose surname was spelled as Butcher (deed paper). (It is a blessing in disguise, so to speak, that he dropped "o" from the surname Boutcher so as to help researchers distinguish Samuel Butcher of VA from his nephew, Samuel Boutcher of PA.) One of the Virginia papers shows something like "Sama Bussa" as the name of Samuel of Loudoun. Below "Sama Bussa" is the name of his wife, "Susanna Butcher." Maybe a clerk wrote down exactly what his ear heard Samuel say his full name and what Samuel's wife Susanna say her full name. Jean SeaLover2@Juno.Com J.Boutcher.1@alumni.NYU.edu (lifetime forwarding mail) On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:38:34 -0500 alicia d frank <alicia.df1@juno.com> writes: > Sealover: > > Have you a family/ who had a William ba 1803 in Loudon? > His children were George William, a John and many others. Who > were the > Sma Jr's sibs . > Alicia in FL > > > ==== BUTCHER Mailing List ==== > Visit the BUTCHER GenConnect boards at > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Sealover: Have you a family/ who had a William ba 1803 in Loudon? His children were George William, a John and many others. Who were the Sma Jr's sibs . Alicia in FL

Sorry I cannot help you. My line came from Rockingham Co. Va 1700 into Ohio early 1800 and oninto In. Iate 1800. Good luck. Jim

Posted on: BUTCHER Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/u/BUTCHER/queries/10053 Surname: BUTCHER, BLAKE, JOBE, FLANNERY, FLANARY ------------------------- I'm looking for anyone who knows anything about the John Butcher who is on 1840 Ripley Co., MO census and 1850 Oregon Co., MO. I know that he was married at least 3 times. 1) Thirzy Blake on Nov 25, 1832 Lawrence Co., Arkansas 2) Dorcas Jobe on May 17, 1840 Ripley Co., MO 3) Susan Flannery on July 18, 1844 Oregon co., MO I'm researching the Jobe family of this area and both Dorcas Jobe and Susan Flannery are related to me. Susan Flannery was the d/o ? Flannery and another Dorcas Jobe (also related to his 2nd wife). Trying to find out what happened to John after 1850 and what became of his his children by Dorcas and Susan? According to census records, John Butcher was born about 1810 in TN. Thanks for any help! Ann (Jobe) Brown abrown@isys.ca Link: Jobe, Job, Jobes - Links to Great Information! URL: <http://members.tripod.com/~ajobebrown/Jobe.html>