This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DBH.2ACEB/59.1 Message Board Post: hi gordon.it origin is anglo/saxon about 400 ad.noted in domesday book in 1086. the most ancient coat of arms granted was;onared background,an ermine chevron on whichther are 3 blue circles between 3 water carriers. the crest is; awater carrier between 2 wings. ancient family motto; "dum spiro spero" bye for now,lol.