I agree with you. I have been for several years trying to make a connection between these BUZBEE's. They also seem to visit each other from Lexington Co. to Edgefield. The only plausible reason I can make, is to visit relatives. Travel back and forth, even this short distance (short as we know it but certainly not for them) probably wasn't as easy as we know it today. So I feel sure they just weren't out for a Sunday ride. I also think old man Benjamin BUZBEE had several wives, thus several families (children), and it appears to me that they sort of went their own way (the oldest children). Some went west and some went south. This has been a tough brick wall to surmount. WOW!, and don't forget I could be all wet with my humble hypothesis. Boy if we only had a time machine. Does anyone out there have actual copies, (not transcripts) of Benjamin's old will, land grants or deeds or anything at all? If yes, would it be possible to secure a copies Julius H. BUSBEE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaila & James Merrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese Busby > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censc.htm > > I think Benjamin had children besides Benjamin Jr, Miles and Reese. In the > 1820 Census from the Busbee page, I find these names of people that came to > Central Georgia and all living near each other and Ned's Emancipation papers > prove that Benjamin, Sr has a daughter who was married to Lewis Sawyer. I > think the children of Benjamin were given a portion as they married or reach > a certain age. There is a record of the Busby Census on the Busby Webpage > and that is where I took the following: > > Buzbee > Mary, SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 42 / 0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Hampton, SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 0-1-0-1-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Elisha,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 0-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Reese,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 1-0-0-1-0-1-1-1-0-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Fedrick,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Nathaniel,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 49 / 0-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Needham,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 49 / 0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-2-2-1-0 > > Buzbee > Demsy SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 50 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-0 > > > Males: 0 to 10 then 10 to 16 then 16 to 18 then 16 to 26 then 26 to 45 then > 45 & up > snip > > So since I believe that Reese the son of Benjamin, Sr was born about > 1770-1775, he fits into the 45 years category in 1820 SC Census and also > matches with the person William Reese Busby in Georgia and also the right > age to be the father of James born circa 1800. If Reese is a younger son > of Benjamin, Sr he lived to be about 70 years old. Not an overly old age. > So by asking for holes in your story, I guess I am asking for more > substantiation on why in your scenario you have all of the brothers die so > closely together and what brought you to that conclusion without obituaries, > wills or family tradition of that happening. > > I am trying to see what brought you to this conclusion? > > Is anyone else seeing something I am missing? > Gaila > > > > > > > > I think part of the identification hinges on setting the three sons > of old Benjamin in their right age range. That is extremely difficult. > They one fact that we have for certain is that the son Benjamin died before > June 1817. Old Benjamin might have lived to a very ripe old age but perhaps > his sons lived to a more normal age. Thus Benjamin Jr. died soon after his > father. Thankfully he died before the terms of his father's will were > settled so we have documentation to help roughly settle his death time. > There are so many men by the name of Benjamin on the various censuses in > S.C. that it is almost impossible to find old Benjamin and his son on any. > Of course we are only talking about the 1790, 1800, & 1810. None of those > set the person in a very helpful age range any way. Thus Benjamin, Jr. is > not going to help us in establishing age range for the three sons. > > > > That is the reason I am looking at Miles. I cannot find Miles Sr. on > the 1820 census but do find Miles Jr. age range 45 & up. Miles Sr.'s son > William is near by in age range 26-45. Now, a lot depends on if I am > reading two documents correctly. That is a huge if!!! The 1825 land deed > where some of Miles Sr.'s children are selling their right to his land to > two of the other children is significant. I think they are dividing his > land because he had died. Of course, that could be wrong and I admit that. > However, I find it hard to understand why they would be dividing his land > otherwise. It is similar to some of the heirs of William Reese selling his > land to other heirs after his death . > > > > If I am correct, then the Miles Busby on the 1830 S.C. census for > Orangeburg, age range 60-70 is Miles Jr. He no longer needed to go by Jr. > since his father is dead. As I look at the 1830 Georgia census for Bibb > County, I find Reace Busby, age range 50-60. They are the same generation, > if you follow where I am going. > > > > The estate papers I have for a Miles Busby dated November 14, 1831 > lack the names of all the known children of Miles Sr. except for a John. > Thus I feel these are the estate papers for Miles Jr. Miles Jr. died age > range 61-71. William Resse died probably some time in 1844, age range > 64-74. My point in all this is that I place Miles Jr. and William Reese in > the same generation, both most likely grandchildren of old Benjamin. > > > > Do you follow my thinking? Where are the holes??? > > > > One more thing, I feel that Reese died in S.C. before March of 1822. > I don't think he ever went to GA. I feel that William Reese is the one on > the S.C. 1820 census and that he went by Reese since his dad was dead. I > think that William Reese usually wnet by William Reese but sometimes by > Reese after his dad's death. > > > > I am collecting documentation like crazy. You mentioned some land > deeds, I assume for S.C. that I have not been able to obtain yet. May I ask > for the documentation so I can order them from S.C. Archives? From your > email, they are: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was > a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same > plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by > William R. Busbee in 1826." Thank you. I have no land deeds for Reese in > S.C. > > > > I look forward to your further input into this question. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb Resource Cluster > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames > > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Primary Record Transcriptions > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/prtindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Julius By not transcripts, do you mean the Original or microfilm of the original handwriting of a court clerk. That's what I have, I got them from the SC Archives or Howard or Wayne or Sandra or Charles . Hard to remember and I now have a policy to write it on the pages where I got it from- My copy is poor and I am going to see if my new HP scanner cleans the photocopy "noise' from the image without taking the actual handwriting away. Kathy, is your copy clear? Gaila

Gaila, Thank you for responding. Yes, I would like to have copies of the actual document rather than transcripts, if at all possible. I am trying to gather up as many copies of the originals as possible to pass on to my daughter. Especially before something happens that they are no longer available. Thanks again for responding, Julius ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaila & James Merrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese Busby > Julius > By not transcripts, do you mean the Original or microfilm of the original > handwriting of a court clerk. That's what I have, I got them from the SC > Archives or Howard or Wayne or Sandra or Charles . Hard to remember and I > now have a policy to write it on the pages where I got it from- > My copy is poor and I am going to see if my new HP scanner cleans the > photocopy "noise' from the image without taking the actual handwriting away. > Kathy, is your copy clear? > Gaila > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >