All said and done. RootWeb is fixing the problem, we are not the only list hit. This guy was good and I do mean good. For those of you who are new, I am the old warhorse who runs this list but only the techie stuff. This list is for you to make contact with cousins, relatives, complain, moan and groan. We try to keep it to research only, if you want to pass the time with each other, please take it private. How many times you went to the bathroom and the like is just a bit more than I want to know and I am sure there are other who feel the same way. I am here to help you in any way I can, this is your list, and I only have one thing that really will get me going and that is flaming and being a horse's petunia. If you must be this way, please take it private, otherwise I step in and I am, sorry to say, not going to be a nice person. For those of you who have wondered where I have been these last two months, my health has not been the greatest and I just returned Wednesday home from having surgery. Nothing serious and life threatening, just a pain. I will be having it done one more time in the near future, but that is iffy. I am going to try to catch up with everything and see if I can't get back on track. Later Barbie (the grump today 8*) )