I enjoyed your genealogy lesson....that is why I'm trying to ask others if they have certain proof to connect certain people I "think" may be the parents of a definite ancestor :) A quick question.... I have an elusive gr grandfather in another part of my family line. I know his name because other family members knew it, and the approximate area they lived, but he died just before or just after my grandfather was born and the boy's mother remarried. Then she died and the step father remarried. To complicate things they moved from Indiana to Illinois; this all happened between censuses and the surname spelling was changed in this generation. I'm up a creek without a paddle! I know the date and place my grandfather was born, but there were no birth certificates in Indiana at this time (1871). There is no family Bible, only the names and dates as older family members recall. If you can give me some advice and post it to the list....I'm sure we all could benefit. If I can't get my grandfather's birth certificate, how can I prove his parent's names and get dates for them? I have his death certificate and parent's names from that, but it's only names. No one knew where they were born to fill it in properly. It's actually easier to get birth dates in Britain because they all recorded things in parish churches and the LDS recorded much on microfilm. Researching in the U.S. can be much more difficult - either that or I just don't have the hang of it :) Any help and advice would be appreciated :) Lonna Searching for: FURLONG, MAISE, RAMSEY, BUSBY, POLAND, PENN, KENNA, MORBY, NEALE My Genealogy: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lpoland Furlongs of Pembrokeshire, Wales: http://members.xoom.com/furlongs Lonna's House (Christian site): http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4299 Lightning Web Designs: http://www.lightningwebdesigns.com

Hi Howard, This is your 2 e-mails in one!! First, do you have an abstract (typed in computer)of the will that you could send to me, please?? Second-I checked the marriage index for Mobile County and I see a Simeon Wheeler married a Rebecca Maples on July 16, 1850 (Book 11;Page 74). The following was gleaned from newspaper articles in the Mobile Register (circa 1890-1905), and other documents/sources. Wheelerville, Alabama Simian (Simeon) Wheeler established the legal precinct of Wheelerville in 1828. Wheelerville ran west on Old Shell Road/Tanner-Williams Road from what is now the University of South Alabama to the vicinity of Big Creek Lake reservoir. It soon gained the the reputation of "the murder capital of Alabama." In the late 1830s, a teen-age outlaw, James Copeland, born near Pascagoula, Mississippi in 1823, joined the wages Clan, dominated by Gale Wages and Charles McGrath. The clan used Wheelerville as one of its staging areas, and from there "spread terror through a wide area of the middle Gulf Coast in general and Mobile in particular." In 1839, Copeland and his associates, with key members employed as Mobile city guards, started a fire in the Mobile shopping district, looted most of the stores and burned down the entire downtown business area. Copeland went on to form his own gang and engaged in the robbery of slaves, livestock and even flatboats, accompanied by numerous shootings and murders until his arrest in the vicinity of Mobile in 1849. After four years in the Alabama Penitentiary, he was released, only to be arrested by Mississippi authorities. He was tired and convicted of murder. On October 30, 1857, the 34-year-old outlaw was hanged in Augusta, Mississippi. His body was not claimed, so he was buried in a pauper's grave in Perry county, Miss. Three days later his body was secretly dug up and disappeared. A story (undocumented oral tradition) has persisted for more than 140 years in the Wheelerville community that Copeland's remains were brought back and buried in the old Wheelerville cemetery (now New Hope Gardens) in the heart of the area that was the rendezvous and hideout for his clan. The woods near the New Hope gardens cemetery were the headquarters of the Copeland gang. A list of the Copeland and Wages clan was given in 1857 by Copeland to Mississippi sheriff J.R.S. Pitts, who recorded it in his 1858 book, The Life and Confession of the Noted Outlaw James Copeland. On January 7, 1875, Thomas Fincher, a deputy sheriff who had a warrant for his arrest on a charge of forgery, shot John E. Allen. A posse was collected and at Fincher's home when Allen walked into the room with a musket on his shoulder, and defied them to arrest him. Fincher closed with him and took the gun away. Allen seized another gun and turned to fire. Fincher fired at Allen hitting him in the left side, killing him. The body was brought in and placed in the jail by Fincher, who gave himself up to wait the result of the inquest. In 1868, Tom Fincher assassinated Simon Wheeler. This started the beginning of the feud and "general acceptance of the doctrine of vengeance by the old families of Wheelerville." Wheelerville, according to a 1905 Mobile Register article, is famed as the only feud center in Alabama. Fincher was convicted, but after a series of appeals and reversals, the case was dropped by the State. Fincher, supposedly, went on to murder again, but was later shot from ambush and the killer was never discovered. Both Wheeler and Fincher are buried in the Wheelerville cemetery, which, before 1828, was known as Mount Mariah. "Jabe, Thanks. This is some kind of proof for me. Now, how about Elizabeth's parents? Was she related to Simeon Wheeler, the purported founder of Wheelerville? Howard" -----Original Message----- From: HBusby@aol.com [mailto:HBusby@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 12:17 PM To: BUSBY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: surnames I'm searching In a message dated 1/29/00 4:58:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, jabef@netpathway.com writes: << George, Micajah, Nathaniel, Benjamin, Jr.(b. 1730), Thomas, Henry, John, another Benjamin (born 1738), Needham, Jeremiah, and Zachariah. Does any of this match your records? I also have a >> Jabe, I have come across most of those names in various postings from the list, plus other records in print form, but I never was able to associate them as siblings. One puzzle here: why are not Miles and Reese( also known as William Reese) listed here as Benjamin's sons? The will indubitably states they were sons, along with Benjamin (possibly the second one). Another perplexity: why are there no females in this family? Were they left out of the records or was it simply that none were born? I would appreciate having the information on marriage records in Mobile County AL, especially as regards the Wheelers. My great great grandmother , Elizabeth arista Wheeler married Richard Tillman, b. 1822, d. 1869 Mobile Co., AL. Is their marriage listed in your records? I am also looking for Elizabeth's parents. Thanks and best regards, Howard ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== RootsWeb Resource Cluster http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames Listowner: Barbara Peddicord mailto:nashoba@cdsnet.net

Hi there, I have a reference to A William Henry Busby (b. 1805), son of unknown and Zachariah Busby (b.1768). Zachariah was son of Benjamin Busby (b.1699, d.1815) and Susannah. There is some doubt/wonder about whether Zachariah was son of Benjamin due to the age of Benjamin at Zachariah's birth. I have a lot of Busby information from the Mobile, AL/ Miss area. Jabe Fincher HTH -----Original Message----- From: Genderspepper@aol.com [mailto:Genderspepper@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:26 AM To: BUSBY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Roll Call Busby, William H. b-c1805 SC or GA. died 5-27-1870 Mobile, County, Ala. Married 1st: Lou Etta Ennis (?) married 2nd Phoebe Grimes. Migration path is SC-GA-MS-Ala. He is possibly the son of Zachariah Busby who is listed on the 1820 MS census in Lawrence County, MS. ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Busby Family Homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/index.htm Listowner: Barbara Peddicord mailto:nashoba@cdsnet.net

Hello :) Seeking ANY information on ZACHARIAH H. BUSBY, born about 1810 in Baltimore or Carroll County, MD, died 9 June 1871 in Emmitsburg, MD. He married RACHEL CONAWAY on 27 January 1842 in Carroll County, MD. Their children: Eliza Ann Conaway Busby (b. 28 March 1837) and Margaret Mary Josephine ("Ellen") Busby (m. Daniel G. Adelsberger on 29 January 1861 in Westminster, Carroll County, MD). Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide :) Merri Adelsberger "He who knoweth not from whence he came, careth little whither he goeth." (Daniel Webster)

lonna i'm looking for busbys tenn and ark as far as i can go back is 1842 any help would be grateful thanks janetta

My Husband, James A. Busby's family is: Buzzbee, Seaborn William about 1810 S.C.>MS.>AR., St. Frances Co. 1810-1944 Hi Marilyn ! :) Valeria Mae (Edmundson) Busby

Likely, there is no connection, but your ggf story sounds like mine. Mine was Algernon Wilkins Buzby, born in PA 1869, but no birth cert. He died in 1905, five years after his son (my gf) Jason Buzby was born in Phila. He also had another son in 1902, named Dudley, but wife Elizabeth thought someone else might be the father. At any rate, as a widow, she remarried a Mr. Petrie, and moved to Indiana-I guess he, being a military man, was stationed there or something. They had a son named Bliss, and some one of them moved to TX. Oh, to find living ancestors! Melanye Buzby Winterbottom

Vernon Edward (went by the name of Fred )- b. November 24, 1903 - Florala,Ala. Co./Ms/Fla/Al Documentation: daughter's birth record

In a message dated 1/30/00 12:13:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kyelsew@aol.com writes: << Seaborn Busbee/Busby b. abt 1830 Crawford County, GA d. 1864 from Civil War Wounds, m. 1st Frances Dawsey January 24, 1847 Houston County, GA. Their child was Susan Busbee b. abt 1850. 2nd Wife was Frances sister Nancy Dawsey Reeves m. abt 1851 in Crawford County, GA. their children George W. Busbee (also used nickname Doc) b. abt 1852, Elias B. Busbee b. 1856, Seaborn B. Busbee b. 1858 >> Proof: for Seaborn b. abt. 1830 Marriage record of Frances and Nancy: Census Records 1850, 1860 Civil War Records Proof for Seaborn b. 1858 Census Records listing first wife and children 1900, Census Records listing 2nd wife & children 1910 & 1920 Marriage Record to Minnie Lee Joiner/Joyner Cemetery photos showing Sarah W. Busbee, Seaborn Busbee, & Minnie Busbee Family accounts with daughter of Seaborn & Minnie Lee Busbee kathy kendrick

If you guys want, why not do a roll call say for this week only. All we need to give is given name, place where located if known, and timeframe. Mine would read James W., GA>TN>Desoto Co MS 1810-1902 Just a thought, will give the new members a chance to post their elusive Busby/Busbee/Buzbees. Be sure to make subject line read Roll Call so that those who do no want to take part can filter them out to their trash bins. Barbie

Howard, there is a listing for a Sim Boy Wheeler who married Mollie Wheeler on 12-26-1906 in Mobile County, Ala. Book no. 40 Page no. 221 Also: Maudie Mae Wheeler to E. R. Busby on 6-4-1934 in Mobile County, Ala. Book no. 62 Page no. 211 and: Luther Wheeler to Wllie Emily Busby on 5-28-1916 in Mobile County, Ala. Book no. 47 Page no. 360 Hope you can use this too. Denny

I have been observing the postings real close. While the older members know to post their source a lot of the newer members don't. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with speculation but if you are going to post the data as your direct line, you also need to include the source of the data that proves it. Unless the source is posted, it is mere speculation and guess work. If you don't want to do that much typing then put at bottom sources available on request. Never accept what you pick up on a list as the gospel, always prove it out by obtaining a photocopy or printout of the document or the document its self. It will sure cut down on the wild goose chases and hitting dead ends. "Twinkles" email address may be a source but not documentation that proves the line. And in order to claim direct descent you must prove the line with birth certificates, marriage licenses, death certificates, bible records, wills and etc. (letters, announcements, census, directories) In the future, a lot of you will want to join a group like DAR or the like, and without this documentation you will be rejected. Or you may want to write a book, no documentation means no sales. So please include your source so that others may obtain the documents necessary to prove the line. Class over. 8*) Barbie

1. Zacharian, b. 1768, SC>TN(?)>MS(Lauderdale, Jasper, Wayne Co), d. ca.1850 2. Jeremiah, son of 1) Zachariah, b. 1795, SC>GA(Twiggs Co.)> MS (Wayne Co), d. 1870. 3. Jeremiah, son of 2) Jeremiah, b. 1823, MS> LA> MS, d. 1897, MS Documentation: 1&2: SC federal census records 1800 and 1810 1: MS census records 1820, 1830, 1840 2: MS census records 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860 2: Church records, Baptist Church Twiggs Co., GA 3: MS census records 1830, 1840, 1870, 1880; Burial records (Shirley Place Cemetery, Wayne co., MS) Howard

In a message dated 1/29/00 4:58:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, jabef@netpathway.com writes: << George, Micajah, Nathaniel, Benjamin, Jr.(b. 1730), Thomas, Henry, John, another Benjamin (born 1738), Needham, Jeremiah, and Zachariah. Does any of this match your records? I also have a >> Jabe, I have come across most of those names in various postings from the list, plus other records in print form, but I never was able to associate them as siblings. One puzzle here: why are not Miles and Reese( also known as William Reese) listed here as Benjamin's sons? The will indubitably states they were sons, along with Benjamin (possibly the second one). Another perplexity: why are there no females in this family? Were they left out of the records or was it simply that none were born? I would appreciate having the information on marriage records in Mobile County AL, especially as regards the Wheelers. My great great grandmother , Elizabeth arista Wheeler married Richard Tillman, b. 1822, d. 1869 Mobile Co., AL. Is their marriage listed in your records? I am also looking for Elizabeth's parents. Thanks and best regards, Howard

New Lead for me; scant information: Philadelphia, Pa. Buzby Family - Jeanette, James, Marie, Ann (Slick), Theresa (Lister), Lillian, Richard - some still living and of Catholic Faith. Lea Simitz Buzby

Jabe, What is your reference to William Henry Busby b-1805? Thanks, Denny

Busby, William H. b-c1805 SC or GA. died 5-27-1870 Mobile, County, Ala. Married 1st: Lou Etta Ennis (?) married 2nd Phoebe Grimes. Migration path is SC-GA-MS-Ala. He is possibly the son of Zachariah Busby who is listed on the 1820 MS census in Lawrence County, MS.

Buzby, Isaac 1802-?, Philadelphia, Pa. general area, possibly Quaker. Married Mary Greenwood 1806-1868. Lea Simitz Buzby leabuzby@aol.com

Seaborn Busbee/Busby b. abt 1830 Crawford County, GA d. 1864 from Civil War Wounds, m. 1st Frances Dawsey January 24, 1847 Houston County, GA. Their child was Susan Busbee b. abt 1850. 2nd Wife was Frances sister Nancy Dawsey Reeves m. abt 1851 in Crawford County, GA. their children George W. Busbee (also used nickname Doc) b. abt 1852, Elias B. Busbee b. 1856, Seaborn B. Busbee b. 1858 kathy kendrick

John, 1747, Antrim, Ireland>Hampshire Co., (W)VA, d. 1810, Hampshire Co., VA Elizabeth, 1766, Ireland?>Hampshire Co., (W)VA, d. aft. 1855, Miami Co., OH Patsy Skeels