I'm searching for the parents of Drusilla BUSBY who married David Allen SHIRLEY. I have searched extensively through all the sources I can access from home, and I can't find her. I thought she might have had a different maiden name, then married a Busby, but it seems more likely that she was a Busby since she named children Zachariah and Hamilton and maybe had a child named Phebe ("Feebe"). The sources on David Allen SHIRLEY are confusing, especially because he seems to have had so many children. If I believed all that people have put online, David would have 17 children and 4 stepchildren. Sorry my info is not perfect here David Allen Shirley b. May 22, 1810 d. June 10, 1892 Father: Richard Shirley? John Shirley? Mother: Birth: SC Death: 1892 DeRidder, Beauregard Par., LA Spouse 1: Drusilla BUSBY (b. ? d. 1856 near Columbia, Caldwell Parish LA) Children: 1. Zachariah Shirley 2. Elizabeth "Lizzie" Shirley b: BET 1828 AND 1847 3. Jemima Shirley b: BET 1831 AND 1860 4. Hamilton Shirley b: SEP 1837 5. Daniel W. Shirley b: 8 SEP 1839 in Wayne County, Miss 6. Edward Shirley b: 1 AUG 1845 in Wayne County, Mississippi 7. Alexander Shirley b: 4 MAY 1848 in Wayne County, Mississippi (8. Laura Shirley b: 1855 ? ) (9. "Feebe" ? ) Spouse 2: Mahalia (or Mahaley, Mehalley, Mahalla, Mahala, Mabala) EASON b. 1832 in MS, d. 1911 (Parents from GA) Children: Mahalia's Father: James Abram EASON b: 1790 in GA Mahalia's Mother: Winnie Lewis MAY b: 1800 in GA Marriage 1 Thomas JACKSON Children 1. John JACKSON b: 1852 2. Mary JACKSON b: 1854 3. Thomas JACKSON b: 1856 4. Andrew JACKSON b: 1858 (1. Martha Louisa SHIRLEY (Martha's mother from SC) b: 20 JUL 1860 (Census says 1862) in Louisiana m. John L. Austin ??) 2. Mary Azzeline (Azaline) SHIRLEY b: 1865 in Calcasieu Parish, La m. Joseph Simmons (Azzilene on gravestone, bur. in Pleasant Hill Cemetery) 3. David Allen "Little Dave" SHIRLEY b: 1867 in Calcasieu Parish, Louisiana m. Ella Holliday (Drygoods salesman) 4. John T SHIRLEY b: 19 MAR 1869 m. Mattie Holliday 5. Susan (Sousan) L SHIRLEY b: 1875 in Louisiana m. Carrol Sanders 6. Walter D SHIRLEY b: 29 JAN 1878 in Louisiana m. Mary Lewis (7. Jefferson SHIRLEY ? ) (8. Joseph SHIRLEY ? ) I think that Burrell "Allen" Shirley, who is supposed to be David Allen Shirley's brother, married Nancy Busby, dau. of Jeremiah and Phebe Busby of Wayne Co. MS. One person says that's right, another says it's wrong. At the very least, Burrell "Allen" Shirley and Nancy lived near Jeremiah and Phebe Busby in Wayne Co. Jeremiah and Phebe had an Elizabeth Shirley in their household at one point (1860 or 70). These are not the David and Burrell Shirley or Mahalia Eason tried in SC for murder, theft, or having bastard children--these are their cousins. Any help appreciated! I can return the favor by doing lookups in the census (1790, 1810, 1820, 1850, 1860, 1870, 1910, 1920). I can also access some books in a database that you might not have checked yet. Tracy Kirk

In reference to my previous message Busby Roll Call I read my notes wrong..... Claborn Busby had a sister Rhoda, a brother John and a SISTER, EMMA E. Rhoda married a Leonidas Harden and Emma married a Benjamin Riggs.

I am new to the list and also to Busby research. I descend through Nimrod B. Busby, s/o Sampson, s/o Nimrod. I descend through Nimrod and Elizabeth's son Claborn H. Busby and his wife Martha "Mattie" (Cottrell). I do not know anything about Nimrod B. and his wife, I think Elizabeth(?) except for a little info that Barbara has given me. Would love to know more about this Nimrod and his parents and siblings. I don't know a lot about my gggrandfather Claborn, except that my great aunt told me he was known as CLAY. On he and Mattie's marriage record he is C.H.J. and have no idea what the H and the J stand for. I know he had a sister Rhoda who married a Leonidas Harden and a brother John and a brother Emmer (?), but that is it. As you can see I need a lot of help!!! Thanks, ~Leanna Burgess Veazey [email protected]

Kathy & Sandra, I would have to say none of us are experts on this list, except for Barbara Peddicord and we are all ready to learn. So please feel free to share. I was looking through a copy I have of pg 65 of the 1810 Lexington District Census and there are so many lines from the old microfilm, not to mention my copy seems a bit faded, so I have complete sympathy with trying to read from the Census pages and decipher the marks. It can be the luck of the draw who gets a clear copy to read, let alone a clear print. This page of the 1810 Lexington Census has Hampton Busby and possibly William or Needham Busby. At least there are several letters that are unready in the first name and it ends in "am". Does anyone go back to these Busbys? Sandra and I are descendants of Charity Busby Scofield and Lillian Busby Johnson. Joyce is a descendant of Nimrod and Elizabeth Busby, Wayne and Roger are descendants of Allen. Kathy, you are descended from Easter and Wheaton Jones. I think we have a descendant from every branch of Reese's children, except Inman. Does anyone know of any descendants of Inman Busbee and Penelope? So to me this is exciting, that we have so many descendants from the one family. Now we have to tie into the South Carolina Busby families that match closely with us Howard goes back to Zachariah Busby b 1768, and shares Y DNA with the descendants of Benjamin Busby d 1815, SC. Vohn can trace back to Seaborn Busby born circa 1815 and shares the Y DNA as the above descendants of Benjamin. Then there are all the others on the list that connect to Busbys in Houston- Bibb-Crawford Counties, Georgia. Kathy Kendricks and her Seaborn, Barbara connects to Reese - who else connects to these Busbys? Time for a roll call to introduce ourselves to Kathy and each other- Let's change the subject line please Gaila snip I have been introduced seperately to Kathy and can give evidence to how well she researches, so let me welcome you to the Busby list. Joyce is not on the list right now, but she also spends time looking for facts, documents and information. I have looked at it over and over and over again. Nimrod is in the 26 to 45 age range. The 45 and upward range is completely blank. Reading right through it looks like this: > 1 male to age 10, blank (male, age range 10-16), blank (male, age range 16-18), blank (male, age range 16-26), 1 male age range 26-46, blank (male, age range 45 & up), 2 females to age 10, blank (female, age range 10-16), blank (female, age range 16-26), 1 female age range 26-45, blank (female, age range 45 & up), blank (foreigners not naturalized), 1 person engaged in agriculture, everything else blank (i.e. no slaves). > > According to Joyce's birthday (Oct. 22, 1795) , Nimrod would have been around 25 in 1820. That is close to what is listed (26-45). I am sure all know that the census is seldom accurate in giving correct ages for people. I am still convinced that the 1820 census lists Nimrod Jackson, and other members of his family. > > Kathy

Gaila, One of my ancestors, Jeremiah Busby, b. 1795, SC, son of Zachariah Busby, b. 1768, SC, relocated to Twiggs County, GA around 1815 and stayed a few years before moving on to MS. I note that Twiggs County, GA is adjacent to Houston County and catercorner to Bibb County, where several SC Busbys settled. This makes me almost sure that Jeremiah was related to those Busbys. Did not your William Reece Busby settle in that area? Howard

Barbie, I noticed you made references to Choctaw words; for example, Nashoba and Chahta. Are you part Choctaw? Howard

That would be John Zachariah Busby, b, 1797, SC, son of Zachariah Busby, b. 1768, SC. Correct ?

Hi Sandra! Please do forward the mesage to Joyce for me. I am trying to do email but may not last long. I had nose surgery this morning and am not suppose to lean over any. I think the mistake Joyce made was in forgetting that there was a special category for men age 16-18 on that census. That throws off the columns by adding an extra one. Kathy

Our line is Zacariah Busby and Sarah Street form Mississippi.

I am still looking for James William b 1810 GA. While I bask in the glory of being an expert I have to admit I have, am and will make a lot of mistakes. The phrase coined, "To err is to be human". hehehe!!! Gosh, I am getting really profound in my old age. Hope everyone had a good holiday and a safe New Years. Barbie

Kathy weather we are new or old to genealgoy we all make mistakes or overlook something and I think Joyce would be the first ot agree with this. Have you wrote to her directly?? or do you want me to forward this to her. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde P. Stickney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [GAHOUSTO] Fw: [Busbee Busby] parents of Nimrod Jackson > Hi Sandra! I hate to be new to this group and start off by disagreeing with an "expert." However, I have a xerox copy of the 1820 census I mentioned. I have looked at it over and over and over again. Nimrod is in the 26 to 45 age range. The 45 and upward range is completely blank. Reading right through it looks like this: > 1 male to age 10, blank (male, age range 10-16), blank (male, age range 16-18), blank (male, age range 16-26), 1 male age range 26-46, blank (male, age range 45 & up), 2 females to age 10, blank (female, age range 10-16), blank (female, age range 16-26), 1 female age range 26-45, blank (female, age range 45 & up), blank (foreigners not naturalized), 1 person engaged in agriculture, everything else blank (i.e. no slaves). > > According to Joyce's birthday (Oct. 22, 1795) , Nimrod would have been around 25 in 1820. That is close to what is listed (26-45). I am sure all know that the census is seldom accurate in giving correct ages for people. I am still convinced that the 1820 census lists Nimrod Jackson, and other members of his family. > > Kathy > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Family Histories > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/historiesindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Hi Sandra! I hate to be new to this group and start off by disagreeing with an "expert." However, I have a xerox copy of the 1820 census I mentioned. I have looked at it over and over and over again. Nimrod is in the 26 to 45 age range. The 45 and upward range is completely blank. Reading right through it looks like this: 1 male to age 10, blank (male, age range 10-16), blank (male, age range 16-18), blank (male, age range 16-26), 1 male age range 26-46, blank (male, age range 45 & up), 2 females to age 10, blank (female, age range 10-16), blank (female, age range 16-26), 1 female age range 26-45, blank (female, age range 45 & up), blank (foreigners not naturalized), 1 person engaged in agriculture, everything else blank (i.e. no slaves). According to Joyce's birthday (Oct. 22, 1795) , Nimrod would have been around 25 in 1820. That is close to what is listed (26-45). I am sure all know that the census is seldom accurate in giving correct ages for people. I am still convinced that the 1820 census lists Nimrod Jackson, and other members of his family. Kathy

Wayne Thanks Buz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] UK and Austrlian Busby's > Bret can be reached at - [email protected] Wayne > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Family Histories > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/historiesindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

I forwarded the email about Nimrod to Joyce she is researching Nimrod and Elizabeth Busby Jackson and has for years and I have sent her reply back with her email address in case you want to contact her. Sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "James O. Harrison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [GAHOUSTO] Fw: [Busbee Busby] parents of Nimrod Jackson > Hi Sandra, > Thanks for thinking of me. Hope you and yours are all well and that y'all > had a most joyous holiday season. > > I had found the 1820 SC census record for one Nimrod Jackson, but if you > will check it out you will see that this Nimrod was evidently "45 and > upward", so that means he was at least 20 years older than the Nimrod who > married Elizabeth Busby. I have Nimrod's date of birth listed as Oct. 22, > 1795. I have tried to find some document that would connect "my" Nimrod with > the 1820 SC Nimrod - but, no luck. I figure that the SC Nimrod may have > been "my" Nimrod's father or perhaps an uncle. In fact, the earliest record > of Nimrod/Elizabeth that I have been able to find is a Bibb County, GA deed > dated Dec. 10, 1824. I just can't find him between his 1814 marriage to > Elizabeth and this 1824 deed. and I've checked SC and GA records for that > time period. > > I don't get the BUSBY-L emails. I did at one time but unsubscribed because > there was never anything "new" being discussed. I'm still doing research but > on a limited basis since Jim had a stroke and I don't like to leave him > alone for long at the time. If I ever find anything new I'll be sure to > share it with you. And, again, thanks for thinking of me. > > Love, > Joyce > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne and Sandra" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 8:34 PM > Subject: [GAHOUSTO] Fw: [Busbee Busby] parents of Nimrod Jackson > > > > Joyce I didn`t know if you was on the Busby list or not but thought you > > would be interested in this and I had rather you see it twice then not at > > all and anyone else on the list that might be researching Nimrod Jackson > or > > Busby > > Sandra > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Clyde P. Stickney" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:01 PM > > Subject: [Busbee Busby] parents of Nimrod Jackson > > > > > > > Hi everyone! I posted this to Rootsweb and thought it would appear on > the > > email list but it did not. Thought I would try again. > > > Kathy > > > > > > Here is a question for all of you. I have been researching Nimrod > > Jackson, husband of Elizabeth Busby who was the daughter of William Reese > > Busby. I found Nimrod Jackson on the 1820 U.S. census for the state of > S.C., > > Orangeburg Co. Others by the name of Jackson are listed on the same page > > with Nimrod, meaning they most likely lived close together. They are: > Henry > > Jackson (age 45 & up), Arthur Jackson (age 45 & up), and John Jackson (age > > 26-45). Does anyone know if there is a family relationship here? My > biggest > > interest is in Henry Jackson. He was born in 1769 and died Oct. 6, 1858. > He > > married Rachel Busby. She was born in 1773 and died June 4, 1853. They are > > both buried in the Quattlebaum Family Cemetery. One of their daughters > > (Hepsey - b. Jan. 17, 1821 - d. Jul 14, 1908) married Thomas Quattlebaum. > > Are Henry and Rachel the parents of Nimrod? Who were the parents of > Rachel? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Census Records > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censusa.htm > > > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > > > > > ==== GAHOUSTO Mailing List ==== > > Visit Houston Co., GAGenWeb, the parent site for > > this list at http://www.rootsweb.com/~gahousto/ > > and check out the offerings > > > > > > > > ==== GAHOUSTO Mailing List ==== > To unsub / sub from the mail mode, send a message with > only the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the message > area to: [email protected] >

Bret can be reached at - [email protected] Wayne

Hi Guys Can anyone out there please put me in contact with Brett Busby (Australia), as I would like to have a yarn about UK and Aussie Busby's with him Buz

Hi Kathy, I received your post so I guess you're on. Welcome!! I sent you a packet today. If you have questions. let me know. Wayne

Hi everyone! I posted this to Rootsweb and thought it would appear on the email list but it did not. Thought I would try again. Kathy Here is a question for all of you. I have been researching Nimrod Jackson, husband of Elizabeth Busby who was the daughter of William Reese Busby. I found Nimrod Jackson on the 1820 U.S. census for the state of S.C., Orangeburg Co. Others by the name of Jackson are listed on the same page with Nimrod, meaning they most likely lived close together. They are: Henry Jackson (age 45 & up), Arthur Jackson (age 45 & up), and John Jackson (age 26-45). Does anyone know if there is a family relationship here? My biggest interest is in Henry Jackson. He was born in 1769 and died Oct. 6, 1858. He married Rachel Busby. She was born in 1773 and died June 4, 1853. They are both buried in the Quattlebaum Family Cemetery. One of their daughters (Hepsey - b. Jan. 17, 1821 - d. Jul 14, 1908) married Thomas Quattlebaum. Are Henry and Rachel the parents of Nimrod? Who were the parents of Rachel? Any help would be appreciated.

>From George Busby in Belfast, Northern Ireland. To all concerned. I have been looking for anything on this Charles Busby for some months now and I regret to say that he is proving difficult to find. As I stated earlier, I have been trawling the name of Busby as recorded within the various Irish records and this gentleman is no where to be found as yet. Notes on his trade as a Boilermaker. Belfast was once the biggest ship building centre in the world and Harland & Wolf (builders of Titanic) had their main operation there. One should also know that Harland & Wolf had another smaller yard on the river Clyde, Glasgow. It was not uncommon for men to move or should I say work between the two yards. This could explain how he came to marry in Glasgow. Tyneside, Newcastle, England was another major centre for shipbuilding and Charles would have found his trade skills their also. Charles's Orange Connection. The orange order has very strong links with Ireland, but one should not forget that it is a worldwide organization. In days gone bye orange lodges would have been common in many parts of England, Scotland and I believe also Wales. So Charles could have belonged to a lodge anywhere in the United Kingdom. I know lodges existed in Belfast, Glasgow and Newcastle. Charles's Religion. If your information is correct on Charles's association with the Orange Order, it is more than likely he was a Protestant. The Orange Order is a Protestant organisation and would bar a member of the Roman Catholic faith from joining. I cannot say for certain, but a Roman Catholic who denounced his faith and became a Protestant may have been permitted to join, but I am not sure. You would need to check this with someone who is or was in the Orange Order. If Charles was in the Orange he may also have been a member of the Masonic Order. Family Names Passed On From Generation to Generation. >"The IGI does show a birth of an Elizabeth Busby 16.March 1830 daughter of >Charles Busby at Carnmoney/Templepatrick could this be his family." This could be a link, but it needs proved. I have some other information which I will need to look out, but it concerns a family of Busby's who lived in this area "Carnmoney/Templepatrick" moved to Glasgow, and then went on to America. Give me a few days and I will share everything I have with you all. Hope this helps. George Busby Belfast, Northern Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Senior" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: [Busbee Busby] BUSBY > I always read with interest the BUSBY mail especially when it mentions the Irish Busbys. > My great grandfather was Charles Busby who was born about 1860 Ireland. Where in Ireland remains a mystery (as on the census he always gives his place of birth as Ireland), his wife's family came from Antrim though they must have met & they did marry in Glasgow in 1884. > I wish I had asked my grandmother more questions about her family, what I do know however is that her father Charles Busby served his time in the shipyard as on her birth certificate his occupation is given as a Boilermaker, when they moved from Glasgow to Newcastle he worked at the Naval yard in Walker as a boilermaker. I also know that he was an Orangeman as he marched every year in July for the Orange Day march. > Family hearsay says that he was orphaned & was taken in by an uncle who was anything but kind to him, finally resulting in him running away. > Charles was born about 2 years prior to the start of civil registration in Ireland so there is no birth registration for him. On his marriage in 1884 he gave his father as Charles Busby farmer deceased & his mother as Mary Ann Lansley/Lamsley deceased or a similar name ( His marriage certificate is a photocopy & his mothers surname is not that clear) as his parents would appear to be non Catholics the marriage if it took place before 1843 should have been registered but where? > I have visited the Mormon Research centre at Billingham as they are my nearest who hold copies of the registers for birth deaths & marriages for Ireland up until 1901. > I sent for the only listed Mary Ann Busbys death certificate she died at Ballycraiggy (District of Belfast No8) 28 Oct 1874 she was aged 48 Mechanics wife but no name of husband given the death was registered on Dec 21 1874 by a William McMillen. > I have every Busby listed in Griffiths valuations but I am unable to match anything up with Charles. I have several MI & also all the PRO have on Busbys again nothing ties in. > The IGI does show a birth of an Elizabeth Busby 16.March 1830 daughter of Charles Busby at Carnmoney/Templepatrick could this be his family. > If anyone out there can help I will be very grateful > > Best wishes > Sheila Senior > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

HI Sheila There is a Busby -UK list too. There aren't so many Busby's, not like the names Smith or Howards, so most of us Americans just haven't gotten back to the UK far yet. We are trying and to that effect, several American Busby men have taken Y Chromosone DNA tests and we hope to connect back to UK, when some UK Busby men take Y DNA tests, and it might help us to fill in the gaps. Brett Busby from Australia, has just sent his test in and we hope to connect Brett to one of the lines in America and back to the UK as well. So if you know any Busby men who would be interested get them to have a look at the archives and look at the web page. Wayne Busbice is the Busby DNA genealogy co-ordinator, Wayne can be accessed via the webpage or the list to answer any questions. Recently I copied the Busbys from the Domesday book and there were several. You will find that post in the archives too. My advice is don't give up, with more records being unearthed, with DNA telling us we are from the same lines and with good old Busby tenacity, we will prevail. If you have UK Busby records, please share them with the list. Best regards, Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Senior" <[email protected]> > I don't know anything about Charles Busby I would love to know if he had > siblings, I am very surprised at how little family interest there has been > on the Busby list for the Irish Busbys. > Griffiths valuations list everyone who owned an acre of land or above & > according to the list there were a fair few Busbys but no one seems to be > related to them. > I just keep hoping. > Sheila Senior