So, if someone wanted a copy, just send $29? thanks, Julius ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRENDA LEWIS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Re: BUSBY-D Digest V04 #12 > Ernie, I would love a copy of this. I will be glad to send you a check or > money order. You name it. Thank you for the offer. Brenda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:50 AM > Subject: [Busbee Busby] Re: BUSBY-D Digest V04 #12 > > > > I have 2 extra copies of the Zachariah Busby and Sarah Street Family line > > already copied if anyone want to purchase them. There are approx. 125 > pages 8x11 > > we had transcribed and reprinted. The copies + paper fee cost us .20 each > at > > the library so if anyone want to get these just reimburse us for our cost > and > > shipping fee probably be around $4. Let me know if you're interested since > I > > only have 2 extra sets available at this time. > > > > Ernie Smith > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Brenda is going to get one copy so there is still one copy left. Email me if you're interested in this typed version of: I have 1 extra copy left of the Zachariah (John or Jack) Busby and Sarah Street Family line already copied if anyone want to purchase them. There are approx. 125 pages 8x11 we had transcribed and reprinted. The copies + paper fee cost us .20 each at the library so if anyone want to get these just reimburse us for our cost and shipping fee probably be around $4. Let me know if you're interested since I only have 1 extra set available at this time. Thanks Howard I know this can get confusing these Busbys were busy folks, lol Ernie Smith

Hi Gaila! First, and foremost, thank you for your kind consideration about how you sound over email. I too understand it is very impersonal. Until you talk with a person face to face, you cannot really understand their emotion. I hope some day to have that joy of talking with you face to face as cousins. I understand your wanting to dig deep into the truth. I tend to go like gangbusters when on the trail of someone and do not let up. Thus I need to ask for your understanding if I sound argumentative. I am mostly extremely curious and love solving (or at least trying to) a mystery. Thus, let us dig together knowing we each are just aiming at a goal of trying to find out about these (two) men. I too have an example from my family. Also in S.C. were my Kirkland family. Two of the most infuriating people to reasearch were named Richard Snowden Kirkland. Their relationship was uncle and nephew. To make it worse, there was also a Richard Snowden Kirkland, Jr. (son of the uncle)! Also added to the mess was the fact that they were in S.C. living in burned out counties where the surviving records are slim to say the least. The nephew evidently tried to get around the confusion of names and went by Snowden Kirkland most of the time, but not all of the time. Of course, I have to descend from the nephew and nearly go crazy trying to sort out all the documentation. I feel we have a similar situation here with Reese Buzbee and William Reese Buzbee. To answer your first question, there is absolutely positively no proof that I have seen that William Reese was the son of Reese. I am only going by the simialr name and making a guess for now. It is only a guess, nothing more and may not stand the test of more documentation. I have a sneaking suspicion that Reese was either the maiden name of old Benjamin's mother or of his wife who bore his son Reese. Again, absolutely no documentation. That is just a guess from similar experience of many years of genealogical research. I think part of the identification hinges on setting the three sons of old Benjamin in their right age range. That is extremely difficult. They one fact that we have for certain is that the son Benjamin died before June 1817. Old Benjamin might have lived to a very ripe old age but perhaps his sons lived to a more normal age. Thus Benjamin Jr. died soon after his father. Thankfully he died before the terms of his father's will were settled so we have documentation to help roughly settle his death time. There are so many men by the name of Benjamin on the various censuses in S.C. that it is almost impossible to find old Benjamin and his son on any. Of course we are only talking about the 1790, 1800, & 1810. None of those set the person in a very helpful age range any way. Thus Benjamin, Jr. is not going to help us in establishing age range for the three sons. That is the reason I am looking at Miles. I cannot find Miles Sr. on the 1820 census but do find Miles Jr. age range 45 & up. Miles Sr.'s son William is near by in age range 26-45. Now, a lot depends on if I am reading two documents correctly. That is a huge if!!! The 1825 land deed where some of Miles Sr.'s children are selling their right to his land to two of the other children is significant. I think they are dividing his land because he had died. Of course, that could be wrong and I admit that. However, I find it hard to understand why they would be dividing his land otherwise. It is similar to some of the heirs of William Reese selling his land to other heirs after his death . If I am correct, then the Miles Busby on the 1830 S.C. census for Orangeburg, age range 60-70 is Miles Jr. He no longer needed to go by Jr. since his father is dead. As I look at the 1830 Georgia census for Bibb County, I find Reace Busby, age range 50-60. They are the same generation, if you follow where I am going. The estate papers I have for a Miles Busby dated November 14, 1831 lack the names of all the known children of Miles Sr. except for a John. Thus I feel these are the estate papers for Miles Jr. Miles Jr. died age range 61-71. William Resse died probably some time in 1844, age range 64-74. My point in all this is that I place Miles Jr. and William Reese in the same generation, both most likely grandchildren of old Benjamin. Do you follow my thinking? Where are the holes??? One more thing, I feel that Reese died in S.C. before March of 1822. I don't think he ever went to GA. I feel that William Reese is the one on the S.C. 1820 census and that he went by Reese since his dad was dead. I think that William Reese usually wnet by William Reese but sometimes by Reese after his dad's death. I am collecting documentation like crazy. You mentioned some land deeds, I assume for S.C. that I have not been able to obtain yet. May I ask for the documentation so I can order them from S.C. Archives? From your email, they are: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by William R. Busbee in 1826." Thank you. I have no land deeds for Reese in S.C. I look forward to your further input into this question. Kathy

Kathy, I think I also have the full probate court packet, with the probate and the will and also Ned's petition for Emancipation. (Please don't read any negativity into the email, I am just looking for the truth too, emails always sound harsh.) I don't agree with you that William Reese and Reese are different people. But if they are different people, then I feel there is no proof to say who is the father of William Reese. With so many Busby's in SC, how would you able to assign him to one family? At that time, it was very common to name children after their paternal grandparents, then possibly their father or the father's older brother. If Reese and William Reese were two different people then it would be hard to say who the father was, as I have never seen William Reese named in a will or a land deed, or deed of gift in South Carolina. The governor's genealogist speaks to the question of Reese and William Reese, since his explanation is clearer than mine I will transcribe it here: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by William R. Busbee in 1826. All of the Busbys are listed in either Houston, Crawford or Bibb County in 1830. Since William R. sold land in Bibb County in 1829 and 1836, he should have been listed in the 1830 Census of Bibb County. However the only Busby's in Bibb County are James and Reace. There is no William Busby in the entire state of Georgia (census) in 1830. Another item of interest is that James and Elizabeth named their oldest son William R. Busbee. He was probably named in honor of James' father, William Reace. Because of the circumstantial evidence herein explained, we feel it is safe to assume that Reace, William R. and R. William Busby are one and the same person -- William Reese Busby, the father of James." I have a record of a grandchild of William Reese Busby, Reese Busby Schofield, said his mother's father's name was Reese Busby. So while this is something that we will continue to look at, I will stay with the notion that they are one and the same person. Two items in my life this week also point out how these things can occur : at my friend's mother's funeral, a woman I have known for over 20 years as Betty was actually Kathleen. My own Mother told me her name was Lois Emma and when I collected her birth certificate, Mama had never lied about her age, but she was Emma Lois. And as an aside about Benjamin siring children into a ripe old age on the news yesteday there was an item about an 80 year old man and his 40 year old wife having their first child. regards, Gaila > As you know, I feel that Reese Buzbee and William Reese Buzbee were two different people. I strongly suspect that Reese Buzbee was the father of William Reese Buzbee. Looking at all the documents, Reese Buzbee is definitely mentioned in the body of the will as the son of old Benjamin. The other two sons mentioned were Benjamin, Jr. and Miles. The "Account of the sale of the personal estate of Benjamin Senr. of Edgefield District deceased sold to on the 20th of November 1815," lists each purchaser, the article sold, and the amount in dollars and cents. Each purchaser was listed individually with all the items they bought. In order, the purchasers were: Susanah Buzbee, Stephen Norris, John Gosset, William Dent, Reese Buzbee, Lewis Sawyer, Thomas Rawls, Drury Fort, Ansil Sawyer, Thomas Spraggen, Matthew Witherson, Philip Buzbee, Micheal Reach, Willliam B. Norris, Charles Warren, Nathan Norris, Allen Bodie, John Howard, James Eidson, Drucilar Buzbee, Miles Buzbee, Ben! > jamin Hartley, and W. Reese Buzbee. I find it highly significant that Reese Buzbee and Wm. Reese Buzbee were listed separately making me conclude that they were two different people.

Halito Barbie, How interesting! Family legend says I am Choctaw/Cherokee from my fraternal side. My great great grandmother was Sarah Ann Bell from NC. My great grandfather, John Wait, was said to be Choctaw from AL/MS. I am still working on those lineages, with very little luck in finding clear documentation. Yakoke, Howard

Ernie, This Zachariah Busby is actually John Zachariah Busby, b. 1797, SC, son of Zachariah Busby, b. 1768, SC. John Zachariah is a brother of my Jeremiah Busby, b. 1795, SC. I thought I would let you know this to prevent confusion. My family records show that John Zachariah migrated to Mobile, AL, while his brother Jeremiah, remained in MS. Thanks, Howard Busby

Ernie, I would love a copy of this. I will be glad to send you a check or money order. You name it. Thank you for the offer. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 4:50 AM Subject: [Busbee Busby] Re: BUSBY-D Digest V04 #12 > I have 2 extra copies of the Zachariah Busby and Sarah Street Family line > already copied if anyone want to purchase them. There are approx. 125 pages 8x11 > we had transcribed and reprinted. The copies + paper fee cost us .20 each at > the library so if anyone want to get these just reimburse us for our cost and > shipping fee probably be around $4. Let me know if you're interested since I > only have 2 extra sets available at this time. > > Ernie Smith > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > >

I have 2 extra copies of the Zachariah Busby and Sarah Street Family line already copied if anyone want to purchase them. There are approx. 125 pages 8x11 we had transcribed and reprinted. The copies + paper fee cost us .20 each at the library so if anyone want to get these just reimburse us for our cost and shipping fee probably be around $4. Let me know if you're interested since I only have 2 extra sets available at this time. Ernie Smith

Hello Shelia As promised I have been reviewing some letters I received back in 1994 when I first had contact with a gentleman called Michael Busby. Michael was searching for his Irish connection and he put the following information in a letter. Quote, "The distant relative (who is related to my family) received information from another relative who travelled to Ireland quite some time ago. They give the father of Andrew Montgomery Busby Sr. as a William Busby, born about 1779 in Ballyutoage, Antrim, Ireland. They received the information from the public records office in Belfast. They say Andrew was born July 1801 in Ballyutoag and christened 25 Aug 1805 at Old Presbyterian Church, Templepatrick, Antrim. His mother (wife of William) was born 1783 in Ballyutoag. He had two sisters (Isabella born in Mallusk and Agnes Elizabeth also born in Mallusk). This Ballyutoag place is different than the name Ballyvassesy which I have in my records. This confuses me and I do not know which is correct or if this is the correct family." The place names all fall within the greater Carnmoney/Templepatrick area. You may know of this gentleman his wife is called Maria. At the time of writing (1994) Michael Busby was a United States Customs Officer. I hope this helps. George Greer Busby Belfast. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Senior" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: [Busbee Busby] BUSBY > The IGI does show a birth of an Elizabeth Busby 16.March 1830 daughter of Charles Busby at Carnmoney/Templepatrick could this be his family. > If anyone out there can help I will be very grateful > > Best wishes > Sheila Senior > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Valleri There is a triangle where Houston Bibb and Crawford County come to meet. The deed that I just transcribed was from Crawford County, but refered to land in Houston County, perhaps it was land originally from Houston but taken into Bibb County. Someone had written a note that Denis was on the 1850 Bibb Census. Sandra, do you remember whose handwriting it is on that deed? Yours? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valleri Collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:45 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [Busbee Busby] Jeremiah Busby b 1795, SC son of Zachariah > Gaila, Denis G. Is mine!!!!!! Where was he before > 1860? > > Valleri

Note 1850 Bibb County, Ga Census D.G> Busby Age 43 from SC Crawford County, GA deed { this is very cloudy and hard to read] This indenture made between Denis G Buzbee of the State aforesaid & the county of Houston on the one part & John H. Powell of the county and state aforesaid of the other part. Wistnesseth that the said Denis G Buzbee for & in consideration of the sum of $550.00 to him in hand paid, the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, hath bargained, sold & conveyaed unto John H Powell, his heirs and assigns one lot of land lying in the sixth District of Houston County, known by number 220 containing 202 1/2 acres, according to Lot 9 [?] Grant. ETC Wm Roberts Benjamin Barnes DG Buzbee {LS} Regards, Gaila

Hi Wayne! Thank you for your kind introduction. Now I am blushing!!1 Thank you also for the information you sent. It arrived yesterday and today I am pouring over it and am fascinated by several items. I decided to post this to the group to get other's comments as well as yours. I read carefully the letter from Dennis Bryant to you. It made me pull out the probate court packet I have on old Benjamin and read and reread it all over again. As I mentioned, I had the entire box number 4, package number 118 copied for me by the Archives. I wanted more than the will. Now, I don't begin to understand legal documents so want to be completely frank up front. I am only guessing at a lot of this. Dennis comented that: "The various fragments of Benjamin Busbee's will designate Reese Buzbee, son, in the body of the will and the Executor's accounts name him W. R. and Wm. Reese Buzbee." As you know, I feel that Reese Buzbee and William Reese Buzbee were two different people. I strongly suspect that Reese Buzbee was the father of William Reese Buzbee. Looking at all the documents, Reese Buzbee is definitely mentioned in the body of the will as the son of old Benjamin. The other two sons mentioned were Benjamin, Jr. and Miles. The "Account of the sale of the personal estate of Benjamin Senr. of Edgefield District deceased sold to on the 20th of November 1815," lists each purchaser, the article sold, and the amount in dollars and cents. Each purchaser was listed individually with all the items they bought. In order, the purchasers were: Susanah Buzbee, Stephen Norris, John Gosset, William Dent, Reese Buzbee, Lewis Sawyer, Thomas Rawls, Drury Fort, Ansil Sawyer, Thomas Spraggen, Matthew Witherson, Philip Buzbee, Micheal Reach, Willliam B. Norris, Charles Warren, Nathan Norris, Allen Bodie, John Howard, James Eidson, Drucilar Buzbee, Miles Buzbee, Ben! jamin Hartley, and W. Reese Buzbee. I find it highly significant that Reese Buzbee and Wm. Reese Buzbee were listed separately making me conclude that they were two different people. The pages that have me most confused are the pages listing amounts paid out to different people by Nathan Norris, over a long period of time. Some were probably debts incurred by the estate but several look like payments to family. Let me list some of the latter. On November 20, 1816 Miles Buzbee received $30. On November 20, 1816 Drucillar Hartley received $30. [Now, that one makes you stop and think!! Drucillar Buzbee was one of the purchasers at the estate sale. Here is a Drucillar Hartley. Did she get married some time between November of 1815 and November of 1816???] On February 27, 1823 Jeremiah Buzbee received $29.40. On August 13, 1816 Susannah Buzbee received $37.07 & $60.00. On May 15, 1821 Burrell Buzbee received $24.00 [Remember that by June 1817 Benjamin Buzbee, Jr. had died. I think Burrell received the money as the oldest som of Benjamin, Jr.] On March 6, 1822 Wm. R. Buzbee received $30.00 [I think his dad Reese had died by this time and Wm! . R. was receiving the money as the oldest son of Reese. This was much the same as Jeremiah and Burrell receiving the money for thier dad's.] I have a copy of the deed where the children of Miles Buzby (William, Benjamin, Mary Ann, Rebecca, Miles, and John) were selling land that had belonged to Miles Sr. in 1825. I feel that Miles had died by this time and his children were dividing his land. I believe the estate papers I have for a Miles Buzbee, dated November 11, 1831, are that of the son Miles, Jr. as a John Busbie is mentioned as executor. The only Busbee purchaser was a Susannah (wife of Miles?). If this had been for Miles, Sr. one would expect William, Benjamin, Mary Ann, Rebecca, Miles , Jr., and John to also be purchasers. Thus I feel that the three sons of Benjamin Sr. listed in his will died: Benjamin, Jr. by June 1817, Reese, by 1820, and Miles by 1825. Dennis also mentioned that he had Wm. R. Buzbee living on land in south Bibb Co., adjoining Houston Co., in 1827. I have a copy of an indenture for a purchase of land by Rese Buzby from Jesse McNeil on January 8, 1824. In that indenture Rese Buzby is listed as being from Bibb County so we know he was there before that date to be considered to be from there. Perhaps he left S.C. soon after receiving the money from his grandfather's estate. Better close before I raise too many more questions. I look forward to responses. Kathy

Howard, Yes Jeremiah was in Twiggs and Bibb which share a border and Busbyville in Houston County Georgia is very close to Bibb and Crawford Counties and you will find many Busbys in that Central Georgia area circa 1821 and the decade following, when it opened up. We are sure many made the move so quickly because they were in Twiggs County, Georgia. Nathan Busby, son of Jeremiah, was in the area, as well as Jacob, Denis G, Seaborn, Elisha, Frederick, William H & Sampson. Also in Busbyville, were Daniel, and Matthew. In Bibb County, there was Reese, Allen and James. Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] South Carolina Census 1810 Lexington > Gaila, > One of my ancestors, Jeremiah Busby, b. 1795, SC, son of Zachariah Busby, b. > 1768, SC, relocated to Twiggs County, GA around 1815 and stayed a few years > before moving on to MS. I note that Twiggs County, GA is adjacent to Houston > County and catercorner to Bibb County, where several SC Busbys settled. This > makes me almost sure that Jeremiah was related to those Busbys. Did not your > William Reece Busby settle in that area? > Howard

Did this make it to the list? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "James O. Harrison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Nimrod Jackson - 1820 census > First, an apology to Kathy. Second, a thank you. My information on the 1820 Orangeburg Co., SC census record for Nimrod Jackson was "second-hand" information. I should know better. Anyway, I went to the library this P.M. and using the LDS microfilm for the 1820 census, I found Nimrod Jackson, as Kathy said, in the 26/45 age column. I have his date of birth recorded as Oct. 22, 1795. The date of the census is listed as "...this first ~ day of Febu'ry in the year one thousand eight hundred and twenty..." So, now I'm wondering if I have the correct date of birth. Nimrod should have been listed in the 16/26 (4th) column if the census was actually taken on Feb. 1, 1820. > > The male child listed in the "under ten" column (if this is actually Nimrod/Elizabeth Busbee Jackson), would have been Felder Jackson, b. July 29, 1819. The two female children listed in the "under ten" column would have been Parmelia Jackson, b. March 2, 1815 and Martha Caroline Jackson (my g.g.grandmother), b. Nov. 26, 1817. The date of marriage that I have for Nimrod Jackson and Elizabeth Busbee is April 14, 1814, in Orangeburg Dist., SC performed by Elkanah Sawyer, J.P. > > If anyone has any leads to the ancestry of Nimrod Jackson, I would be most appreciative of hearing from you and would be happy to do some more research. > > Joyce Harrison > Macon, GA > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >

Did this message make it to the list? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valleri Collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:44 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [Busbee Busby] Roll Call > I'm a decendant of Dennis Busby who lived all over > Wilkinson Co Georgia and said he was born in SC on the > 1860 census. Only thing earlier in Georgia that I've > found that could be him is a DG Busby in Bibb County, > but even though the children with him have ages that > are somewhat correct, the names are waaaay off. > > Valleri Collins > > > > ===== > Valleri Collins > Bringing you fine sarcasm since 1983 > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > >

Me too especially a cousin and new blood is a good thing like we all just found out!! Sandra > Hi all, Kathy and I have met. I would like to say that she is a dedicated, > hard working, genealogist and I welcome new blood to our group. > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Hi Howard! This is only a small piece of information but thought I would share it with you. I was looking up my Daniel Pines on microfilm of the Twiggs County, GA Tax Digest for 1818. He was in Captain Bozeman's District. On the same page I noticed a Busbee, looks like J.W. This might well be your Jeremiah. The name Pines most likely means nothing to you. However, the name right after Daniel Pines on the tax list is J.W. Busbee. The Pines married into my Jones family and into the Hartley family (who also married into my Jones family). However, every where I find the Hartley and Pines family, I also find the Busbee family. They made the same move from S.C. to GA at about the same time. I strongly suspect a marriage some where in those families but cannot prove anything yet. Keep your eyes open for those families. Kathy

Hi all, Kathy and I have met. I would like to say that she is a dedicated, hard working, genealogist and I welcome new blood to our group. Wayne

According to my grandmother my family is Chahta and Cherokee, maternal side and Chickasaw and Shawnee on the faternal side. My great grandmother was Rebecca Elizabeth Bell. Barbie >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:52:12 EST >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Roll Call >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Barbie, >I noticed you made references to Choctaw words; for example, Nashoba and >Chahta. Are you part Choctaw? >Howard

I just saw a DG Busby page in my Busby notes, I will look it up and send it to the list. Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valleri Collins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:44 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [Busbee Busby] Roll Call > I'm a decendant of Dennis Busby who lived all over > Wilkinson Co Georgia and said he was born in SC on the > 1860 census. Only thing earlier in Georgia that I've > found that could be him is a DG Busby in Bibb County, > but even though the children with him have ages that > are somewhat correct, the names are waaaay off. > > Valleri Collins