May libraries now have access to the Mormon Records, and can order the microfilm. Often less expensive than then LDS local libraries. edwina -----Original Message----- From: Clyde P. Stickney [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Jeremiah Busby b 1795, SC son of Zachariah Hi Julius! The S.C. Archives has so many documents. Best of all, they have an index to some of their materials on line. It is easy, but quite expensive to order from them. There is a $15 out-of-state charge and then a research charge and then a copying charge. I get to the S.C. Archives once a year but in between order from them. Also, do you have a local Mormon Family History Center? They have so many documents on microfilm that you can borrow and copy what you need from them. See if you have one near by. Their library catalogue is on line which makes it easy to see what you might want to order. Kathy ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Busbee Busby and Variations Database Census Records http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censusa.htm Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Gaila, Thank you for responding. Yes, I would like to have copies of the actual document rather than transcripts, if at all possible. I am trying to gather up as many copies of the originals as possible to pass on to my daughter. Especially before something happens that they are no longer available. Thanks again for responding, Julius ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaila & James Merrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese Busby > Julius > By not transcripts, do you mean the Original or microfilm of the original > handwriting of a court clerk. That's what I have, I got them from the SC > Archives or Howard or Wayne or Sandra or Charles . Hard to remember and I > now have a policy to write it on the pages where I got it from- > My copy is poor and I am going to see if my new HP scanner cleans the > photocopy "noise' from the image without taking the actual handwriting away. > Kathy, is your copy clear? > Gaila > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Hi Julius! The S.C. Archives has so many documents. Best of all, they have an index to some of their materials on line. It is easy, but quite expensive to order from them. There is a $15 out-of-state charge and then a research charge and then a copying charge. I get to the S.C. Archives once a year but in between order from them. Also, do you have a local Mormon Family History Center? They have so many documents on microfilm that you can borrow and copy what you need from them. See if you have one near by. Their library catalogue is on line which makes it easy to see what you might want to order. Kathy

Hi Gail! Now let's consider what I have gathered on Miles. Just to lay on the table for now and come back to later. According to the book by Bobby Gilmer Ross, South Carolina Roster of Patriots in the American Revolution, page 127, a Miles Busby is listed. "He served in the militia during 1781 and 1782 under Generals Sumter and Henderson." Can I prove that was Miles Busby, son of old Benjamin? - not yet. I need to look up more references before doing that for certain. Do I think that was Miles Busby, son of old Benjamin? - yes! Miles Busby had land in Craven County on the North East side of Broad River. [Craven County was one of the 4 original counties. In 1769 the Cheraws District, one of the 7 original judicial districts, was created from it. By 1798 that district was discontinued to form Chesterfield, Darlington, & Marlbobo Counties.] Some of his land came from old Benjamin and other by grant. The important document fo me is Edgefield County Deeds, Vol. 46, pp 202-203. It is dated December 12, 1825. In the deed, William Buzbee, Benjamin Buzbee, Mary Ann Buzbee, and Rebecca Buzbey sell and release to Miles Buzbee and John Buzbee their right title and interest in a tract of land containing 100 acres, part of a tract of land conveyed from Benjamin Caffield to Miles Buzbee Sr. What does this document mean? Why were the children of Miles Sr. selling some of his land to each other? I think the best explanation was because Miles Sr. was dead and his children were dividing his land. I found Miles Buzbee Jr. on the S.C. 1820 census but not Miles Sr. I only found a Miles Busby on the S. C.1830 census. (I think that is because Miles Sr. is dead and his son no longer needs the Jr. next to his name). Now look at the age of Miles on the S.C. 1830 census. It is age range 60-70. That means he was born in the year range 1760-1770. No one born around 1770 could have served in the militia from 1781-82. (Of course the close you get to 1760 the more likely it becomes.) Miles was obtaining land in 1773 (and some was from his dad). No one born even in 1760 would have been obtaining land in 1773, and this is the correct Miles Busby. Thus there has to be a generation in here. The Miles Busby on the 1830 census is Miles Jr. I have estate papers for a Miles Busby dated October 17, 1831 [Edgefield County Probate, Box 5, Package 150.] The only two Busby purchasers were Susannah and John Busby. I think Susannah was the wife of Miles Jr. and John was his son (or brother). If these papers were for Miles Sr., then where were William, Benjamin, and Miles his known sons? Miles Busby, son of old Benjamin, is my "mile marker" for determining the generation to which Reese and William Reese belonged. Reese was with Miles Sr. and William Reese was with Miles Jr. I think the documentation is fairly good. Does this help with your question? We are dealing with some Sherman burned counties (not Edgefield thankfully) so documentation is not what we may want. We are also dealing with men who died intestate so there never was a will. Yes, more documentation needs to be unearthed but thus far I am feeling fairly good about my call on Reese and William Reese. Kathy

I thinks its refreshing to see a list work on a line like this list does. Many list are dead and non imformative but you guys are doing some great research, keep up the great discussion of info. Ernie Smith

Hi Gaila! You asked: "So by asking for holes in your story, I guess I am asking for more substantiation on why in your scenario you have all of the brothers die so closely together and what brought you to that conclusion without obituaries, wills or family tradition of that happening." That is a good, and important question. Let's consider Benjamin Jr. first. The document I had copied is from Edgefield Equity No. 2189. I have 12 pages so cannot transcribe it all for you. It is a petition for Sale of Sale, B. Buzby VS Nathan Norris. Again, I am dealing in legal documents so am a bit over my head. I can only explain what is straight forward to me. The petition deals with land that George Sawyer sold to old Benjamin and old Benjamin left in his will to Benjamin Jr., with the understanding that Benjamin Jr. would give $400 to Reese. Now the petition. In the petition, Burrel Buzby mentions the last will and testament of his grandfather which gave a piece of land to Burrel's father with the charge that his father give Rease Buzby, the uncle of Burrel, $400. Burrel states that his father has since died intestate without having discharged the division of the legacy to Rease. Burrel was the administrator and heir of Benjamin Jr., and stated that the $400 could not be paid out of the heirs of the estate of his deceased father without great injury and inconvenience to them. On behalf of his sisters and brothers, he asked that the tract of land be sold in order to discharge the said legacy. The petition is signed by Burrel but mentions his mother Eliza and John Bond, guardian ad litum for Elizabeth Buzby, Bartholemew Buzby, Artimisa Hariot and Louisa Buzby. Included in the packet is the original land deed and survey. The next document in the packet is by the guardian John P. Bond. He stated that the tract of land in the petition is small and poor and the greater part of it cut down. He felt that by the time the minor children were of age that by cultivation the land would be of little value. He felt the sale of the land would promote the interests of all. Thus the petition was granted and the land was sold. Included in the packet is the indenture for the sale of the land on October 6, 1817 between Nathan Norris and Whitfield Brooks. Based on those documents, I feel completely confident claiming that Benjamin Jr. died before October 1817. I am also confident that there was no will for Benjamin Jr., as clearly stated by his son Burrel. I also see Burrel Buzby receiving a payment of $24 from the estate of his grandfather on May 15, 1821, most likely as the oldest son of Benjamin Jr. who was deceased. This email was long so let me go to another for other documents. Kathy

I haven't researched Stephens line a lot but have used it to try and find out our Buzbee lineage. I read and printed out somewhere that William Buzbee sr. was on a 1810 census in S.C. with a couple of sisters who were older and a older brother which the 1796 date closely matches,the 4 other siblings our more known about there younger, Jinsy Buzbee,Jeremiah,Jacob and Joshua. Jinsy and Jeremiah born in S.C. moved to Georgia for a short time? Then to St. Clair co.Al. and both died in Coosa co. near Hissop. Jacob and Joshua moved on to Ark. and there families spread out from there Miss.-Ok.-Tex.-Fla.This is buy memory now but there is a lot on the internet about them.My gut feeling is Stephen is the oldest brother. William Buzbee married Elizabeth Key and lived near Stephen.Stephen moved first and I think William Followed later for better farm lands.Your J.T. and L.M. were in the Ala 28th inf. during the cival war is this right?We had 2 Buzbees also that served in the 28th as we! ll as a Key. We were told when we were down there By a relative to Joe C. Buzbee that all the Busbys/Buzbees/Busbees are related way back.I have been intrigued by the Stephen Busby and William Buzbee connection for some time but we haven't found anything to tie them together yet.When and where did Stephen marry Betsy Swindle? William Married Elizabeth Key in 1821 in St. Clair co. I think the Swindles, Keys and Busbys traveled together. Williams father Jacob was in the Rev. war. and from Newberry and Abbville co. S.C. and born in the Orangeburg district ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:05 AM Subject: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL I have been watching the activity on this mailing for a long time now. Haven't had a lot of time to spend on genealogy, but always read what others are saying in hopes that I will have some luck with my Busby brick wall. Maybe now is the time to ask if others have stumbled on any information on my Stephen Busby since I haven't mentioned him in a long time. My Stephen Busby (listed on 1860 Walker County, AL census as Steven Busbee) was born in SC in about 1796. His was one of the first marriages in Tuscaloosa County, AL to Elizabeth Swindle on 9 Mar. 1823. He and Elizabeth had the following children: John Taylor Busby - b. 25 Nov. 1829 Harriet Elizabeth Busby - b. 30 October 1832 or 1836 in Mississippi Leroy Madison Busby - b. 28 Dec. 1838 Emilie Busby - b. 1839 in Alabama Charlotte Busby - bc 1841 Julia Ann Busby - b. 18 Jan 1849 The names Sampson and Dempsey were given to grandchildren, and I have seen those names scattered in your emails. The fact that one of the children was born in Mississippi makes me think that close kin was probably there. I have a sneaky suspicion that the Nimrod Busby listed on the Oktibbeha County, MS census in 1840 might be a brother but it's only a gut feeling. Does anyone have any info that might help me. These Busby's are the hardest to trace of any of my lines!! Jean Coan ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Busbee Busby and Variations Database Primary Record Transcriptions http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/prtindex.htm Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Hi again Howard! Back to the not-too-helpful 1818 tax digest. Remember I said there were 5 men with initials that looked like JW? One was a JW Miles. Did your Phebe Miles have a brother (or dad) who was a John or Jeremiah who traveled with them to GA? Kathy

Hi Howard! Please forgive me for being so tardy in correcting a mistake - don't go back to the drawing board yet!!! I have been reading over that 1818 Twiggs County Tax Digest that I copied on Tuesday. I am looking for other names that might go along with my Daniel Pines. The copy is not that great for the old tax record was a bit blurry. The infuriating person who copied it abbreviated first names (my Daniel was Danl.). However, as I read each name over and over, I suddenly was hit by the fact that there were several men with initials JW. (5 on that page). That does not seem possible. I kept looking and did find one man who must have been James. If you can try to picture it, his name was listed as Ja with a high curly s at the end of the a. I have seen that before. Now back to the 5 JW.'s. I got my husband to study it with me and we can almost see Jn with the end of the n a high curly thing. Was the name Jeremiah so common that there could have been 5 in o! ne district? Or was this an abbreviation for John? Was there a John Busbee in Twiggs County, GA in 1818? Perhaps I should never have mentioned it in the first place. I raised more questions than answers. I am sorry. Kathy

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censc.htm I think Benjamin had children besides Benjamin Jr, Miles and Reese. In the 1820 Census from the Busbee page, I find these names of people that came to Central Georgia and all living near each other and Ned's Emancipation papers prove that Benjamin, Sr has a daughter who was married to Lewis Sawyer. I think the children of Benjamin were given a portion as they married or reach a certain age. There is a record of the Busby Census on the Busby Webpage and that is where I took the following: Buzbee Mary, SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 42 / 0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0 Buzbee Hampton, SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 45 / 0-1-0-1-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-0 Buzbee Elisha,SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 45 / 0-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-1-0 Buzbee Reese,SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 45 / 1-0-0-1-0-1-1-1-0-0-1-0 Buzbee Fedrick,SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 45 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 Buzbee Nathaniel,SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 49 / 0-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0 Buzbee Needham,SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 49 / 0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-2-2-1-0 Buzbee Demsy SC 1820 Lexington Dist p 50 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-0 Males: 0 to 10 then 10 to 16 then 16 to 18 then 16 to 26 then 26 to 45 then 45 & up snip So since I believe that Reese the son of Benjamin, Sr was born about 1770-1775, he fits into the 45 years category in 1820 SC Census and also matches with the person William Reese Busby in Georgia and also the right age to be the father of James born circa 1800. If Reese is a younger son of Benjamin, Sr he lived to be about 70 years old. Not an overly old age. So by asking for holes in your story, I guess I am asking for more substantiation on why in your scenario you have all of the brothers die so closely together and what brought you to that conclusion without obituaries, wills or family tradition of that happening. I am trying to see what brought you to this conclusion? Is anyone else seeing something I am missing? Gaila > I think part of the identification hinges on setting the three sons of old Benjamin in their right age range. That is extremely difficult. They one fact that we have for certain is that the son Benjamin died before June 1817. Old Benjamin might have lived to a very ripe old age but perhaps his sons lived to a more normal age. Thus Benjamin Jr. died soon after his father. Thankfully he died before the terms of his father's will were settled so we have documentation to help roughly settle his death time. There are so many men by the name of Benjamin on the various censuses in S.C. that it is almost impossible to find old Benjamin and his son on any. Of course we are only talking about the 1790, 1800, & 1810. None of those set the person in a very helpful age range any way. Thus Benjamin, Jr. is not going to help us in establishing age range for the three sons. > > That is the reason I am looking at Miles. I cannot find Miles Sr. on the 1820 census but do find Miles Jr. age range 45 & up. Miles Sr.'s son William is near by in age range 26-45. Now, a lot depends on if I am reading two documents correctly. That is a huge if!!! The 1825 land deed where some of Miles Sr.'s children are selling their right to his land to two of the other children is significant. I think they are dividing his land because he had died. Of course, that could be wrong and I admit that. However, I find it hard to understand why they would be dividing his land otherwise. It is similar to some of the heirs of William Reese selling his land to other heirs after his death . > > If I am correct, then the Miles Busby on the 1830 S.C. census for Orangeburg, age range 60-70 is Miles Jr. He no longer needed to go by Jr. since his father is dead. As I look at the 1830 Georgia census for Bibb County, I find Reace Busby, age range 50-60. They are the same generation, if you follow where I am going. > > The estate papers I have for a Miles Busby dated November 14, 1831 lack the names of all the known children of Miles Sr. except for a John. Thus I feel these are the estate papers for Miles Jr. Miles Jr. died age range 61-71. William Resse died probably some time in 1844, age range 64-74. My point in all this is that I place Miles Jr. and William Reese in the same generation, both most likely grandchildren of old Benjamin. > > Do you follow my thinking? Where are the holes??? > > One more thing, I feel that Reese died in S.C. before March of 1822. I don't think he ever went to GA. I feel that William Reese is the one on the S.C. 1820 census and that he went by Reese since his dad was dead. I think that William Reese usually wnet by William Reese but sometimes by Reese after his dad's death. > > I am collecting documentation like crazy. You mentioned some land deeds, I assume for S.C. that I have not been able to obtain yet. May I ask for the documentation so I can order them from S.C. Archives? From your email, they are: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by William R. Busbee in 1826." Thank you. I have no land deeds for Reese in S.C. > > I look forward to your further input into this question. > > Kathy > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb Resource Cluster > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > >

Kathy, Please allow me it make an input. I have seen your "Jn" associated with Jonathan many times also. I collect old documents from the 18th century and early 19th century and have seen the "Jn'" in the body of a document and then have a "Jonathan as the signatory. Hope this helps. Also can I ask where you guys find all these old BUZBEE documents to get the copies? I am a BUSBEE and live in CA and it is extremely difficult to run these down from here. That's how I got started collecting old documents. I purchased a few hoping they might be related to my family, they weren't but I just held on to them. Thus a new collection started. :>) Thanks, Julius H. BUSBEE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde P. Stickney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Jeremiah Busby b 1795, SC son of Zachariah > Hi again Howard! Back to the not-too-helpful 1818 tax digest. Remember I said there were 5 men with initials that looked like JW? One was a JW Miles. Did your Phebe Miles have a brother (or dad) who was a John or Jeremiah who traveled with them to GA? > > Kathy > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Primary Record Transcriptions > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/prtindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > >

I agree with you. I have been for several years trying to make a connection between these BUZBEE's. They also seem to visit each other from Lexington Co. to Edgefield. The only plausible reason I can make, is to visit relatives. Travel back and forth, even this short distance (short as we know it but certainly not for them) probably wasn't as easy as we know it today. So I feel sure they just weren't out for a Sunday ride. I also think old man Benjamin BUZBEE had several wives, thus several families (children), and it appears to me that they sort of went their own way (the oldest children). Some went west and some went south. This has been a tough brick wall to surmount. WOW!, and don't forget I could be all wet with my humble hypothesis. Boy if we only had a time machine. Does anyone out there have actual copies, (not transcripts) of Benjamin's old will, land grants or deeds or anything at all? If yes, would it be possible to secure a copies Julius H. BUSBEE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaila & James Merrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese Busby > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censc.htm > > I think Benjamin had children besides Benjamin Jr, Miles and Reese. In the > 1820 Census from the Busbee page, I find these names of people that came to > Central Georgia and all living near each other and Ned's Emancipation papers > prove that Benjamin, Sr has a daughter who was married to Lewis Sawyer. I > think the children of Benjamin were given a portion as they married or reach > a certain age. There is a record of the Busby Census on the Busby Webpage > and that is where I took the following: > > Buzbee > Mary, SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 42 / 0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Hampton, SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 0-1-0-1-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Elisha,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 0-0-1-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Reese,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 1-0-0-1-0-1-1-1-0-0-1-0 > > Buzbee > Fedrick,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 45 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Nathaniel,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 49 / 0-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-0-0 > > Buzbee > Needham,SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 49 / 0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-2-2-1-0 > > Buzbee > Demsy SC > 1820 > Lexington Dist > p 50 / 3-0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-1-0-0 > > > Males: 0 to 10 then 10 to 16 then 16 to 18 then 16 to 26 then 26 to 45 then > 45 & up > snip > > So since I believe that Reese the son of Benjamin, Sr was born about > 1770-1775, he fits into the 45 years category in 1820 SC Census and also > matches with the person William Reese Busby in Georgia and also the right > age to be the father of James born circa 1800. If Reese is a younger son > of Benjamin, Sr he lived to be about 70 years old. Not an overly old age. > So by asking for holes in your story, I guess I am asking for more > substantiation on why in your scenario you have all of the brothers die so > closely together and what brought you to that conclusion without obituaries, > wills or family tradition of that happening. > > I am trying to see what brought you to this conclusion? > > Is anyone else seeing something I am missing? > Gaila > > > > > > > > I think part of the identification hinges on setting the three sons > of old Benjamin in their right age range. That is extremely difficult. > They one fact that we have for certain is that the son Benjamin died before > June 1817. Old Benjamin might have lived to a very ripe old age but perhaps > his sons lived to a more normal age. Thus Benjamin Jr. died soon after his > father. Thankfully he died before the terms of his father's will were > settled so we have documentation to help roughly settle his death time. > There are so many men by the name of Benjamin on the various censuses in > S.C. that it is almost impossible to find old Benjamin and his son on any. > Of course we are only talking about the 1790, 1800, & 1810. None of those > set the person in a very helpful age range any way. Thus Benjamin, Jr. is > not going to help us in establishing age range for the three sons. > > > > That is the reason I am looking at Miles. I cannot find Miles Sr. on > the 1820 census but do find Miles Jr. age range 45 & up. Miles Sr.'s son > William is near by in age range 26-45. Now, a lot depends on if I am > reading two documents correctly. That is a huge if!!! The 1825 land deed > where some of Miles Sr.'s children are selling their right to his land to > two of the other children is significant. I think they are dividing his > land because he had died. Of course, that could be wrong and I admit that. > However, I find it hard to understand why they would be dividing his land > otherwise. It is similar to some of the heirs of William Reese selling his > land to other heirs after his death . > > > > If I am correct, then the Miles Busby on the 1830 S.C. census for > Orangeburg, age range 60-70 is Miles Jr. He no longer needed to go by Jr. > since his father is dead. As I look at the 1830 Georgia census for Bibb > County, I find Reace Busby, age range 50-60. They are the same generation, > if you follow where I am going. > > > > The estate papers I have for a Miles Busby dated November 14, 1831 > lack the names of all the known children of Miles Sr. except for a John. > Thus I feel these are the estate papers for Miles Jr. Miles Jr. died age > range 61-71. William Resse died probably some time in 1844, age range > 64-74. My point in all this is that I place Miles Jr. and William Reese in > the same generation, both most likely grandchildren of old Benjamin. > > > > Do you follow my thinking? Where are the holes??? > > > > One more thing, I feel that Reese died in S.C. before March of 1822. > I don't think he ever went to GA. I feel that William Reese is the one on > the S.C. 1820 census and that he went by Reese since his dad was dead. I > think that William Reese usually wnet by William Reese but sometimes by > Reese after his dad's death. > > > > I am collecting documentation like crazy. You mentioned some land > deeds, I assume for S.C. that I have not been able to obtain yet. May I ask > for the documentation so I can order them from S.C. Archives? From your > email, they are: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was > a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same > plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by > William R. Busbee in 1826." Thank you. I have no land deeds for Reese in > S.C. > > > > I look forward to your further input into this question. > > > > Kathy > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > RootsWeb Resource Cluster > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames > > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Primary Record Transcriptions > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/prtindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

1820 SC, Lexington, No twshp M33, Roll 121, p97 John Johnson - - - 1 - - - - 1 - - - 1 p88 Reace Busbee 1 - - 1 - 1 1 1 - - 1 - 2 Also 1820 SC Lexington: Jacob Busbee p82 Mary Busbee p82 Isaiah Johnson p85 Joel Johnson p85 Stephen Johnson p86 Samuel Busbee p86 Elisha Busbee p87 Fedk Busbee p87 Micajah Johnson p94 Hampton Busbee p96 Nathaniel Busbee p96 Nedham Busbee p96 Demsy Busbee p98 Wayne and Sandra wrote: > With so many questions going on and so many are researching the 1810,1820 cencus would you please keep your eyes open for any Johnson`s, my John Johnson married Lillian Busby [Reece`s daughter] and I can`t find him till 1824 when he and Allen are buying land in Bibb Co Ga. So if anyone sees any Johnson`s in Sc around these Busby`s please keep me in mind. > Thank you so much > Sandra > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Census Records > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/Census/censusa.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Kathy- is this what you are asking me about: Gov George Dekle Busby of Georgia had his genealogy done by a Genealogist and these were the genealogist's notes. I have checked Houston County Land Deed CD and I can't find this entry, so I think it is referring to a Crawford County deed. Sandra, do you have the Crawford County, Ga Land Deeds? "The governor's genealogist speaks to the question of Reese and William Reese, since his explanation is clearer than mine I will transcribe it here: "An interesting item to notice is that R. William Busby was a witness to Nathan Busby's land purchase in February of 1823 and the same plot of land that Reece purchased (lot 14 in the 4 District) was sold by William R. Busbee in 1826. All of the Busbys are listed in either Houston, Crawford or Bibb County in 1830. Since William R. sold land in Bibb County in 1829 and 1836, he should have been listed in the 1830 Census of Bibb County. However the only Busby's in Bibb County are James and Reace. There is no William Busby in the entire state of Georgia (census) in 1830. Another item of interest is that James and Elizabeth named their oldest son William R. Busbee. He was probably named in honor of James' father, William Reace. Because of the circumstantial evidence herein explained, we feel it is safe to assume that Reace, William R. and R. William Busby are one and the same person -- William Reese Busby, the father of James." [end Governor's Genealogist report]

I have been watching the activity on this mailing for a long time now. Haven't had a lot of time to spend on genealogy, but always read what others are saying in hopes that I will have some luck with my Busby brick wall. Maybe now is the time to ask if others have stumbled on any information on my Stephen Busby since I haven't mentioned him in a long time. My Stephen Busby (listed on 1860 Walker County, AL census as Steven Busbee) was born in SC in about 1796. His was one of the first marriages in Tuscaloosa County, AL to Elizabeth Swindle on 9 Mar. 1823. He and Elizabeth had the following children: John Taylor Busby - b. 25 Nov. 1829 Harriet Elizabeth Busby - b. 30 October 1832 or 1836 in Mississippi Leroy Madison Busby - b. 28 Dec. 1838 Emilie Busby - b. 1839 in Alabama Charlotte Busby - bc 1841 Julia Ann Busby - b. 18 Jan 1849 The names Sampson and Dempsey were given to grandchildren, and I have seen those names scattered in your emails. The fact that one of the children was born in Mississippi makes me think that close kin was probably there. I have a sneaky suspicion that the Nimrod Busby listed on the Oktibbeha County, MS census in 1840 might be a brother but it's only a gut feeling. Does anyone have any info that might help me. These Busby's are the hardest to trace of any of my lines!! Jean Coan

With so many questions going on and so many are researching the 1810,1820 cencus would you please keep your eyes open for any Johnson`s, my John Johnson married Lillian Busby [Reece`s daughter] and I can`t find him till 1824 when he and Allen are buying land in Bibb Co Ga. So if anyone sees any Johnson`s in Sc around these Busby`s please keep me in mind. Thank you so much Sandra

Gaila, The Nathan who was a son of Jeremiah, was born in 1817, according to census of 1850 in MS, so I am wondering if that Nathan you mentioned was another Nathan. Were there two different Jeremiahs in GA at that time? Prior to 1820, Jeremiah and Phebe (Miles) Busby had two sons, named Miles and Nathan, both born in GA. They settled in MS sometime between 1820 and 1830. Nathan was there with them on the 1830 MS census. He could have hardly been of majority age to buy and sell land in GA. Then again, why would two different Jeremiahs name sons Nathan unless they were closely related, like cousins? Hardly coincidence. Here I go scratching my head and puzzling evermore about those devious Busbys. Howard

Kathy, For quite some time, a group of listers and others have surmised that Zachariah was the son of Benjamin (pere) of SC. Long before I got into genealogy via the web, I had a note, from some long forgotten source, that Zachariah was the son of William Busby of NC. Now, you come up with a JW Busby, who is possibly my Jeremiah, son of Zachariah. Now with the old custom of naming first sons after paternal grandfathers, I wonder if that W stands for William. So, back to the drawing board for me, I guess. Yet, the Busby DNA project shows I have a distinct relationship to those who are related to Benjamin, pere. Perhaps I should go for the 25 or even 37 marker DNA test. I have been procrasting long enough, so will try to get on this within the week. And, thanks for that bit of information. Best regards, Howard

Kathy, thank you for sharing your Busby lineage findings with our cousins on roots web. I am really impressed that you and Gaila are engaged in an in depth information exchange. It is very interesting to read how each of you reach conclusions, or at least, best guess conclusions. As for me, either way I can be certain that thru Allen, Reese or William Reese, I go back to Benjamin, Sr. The Y DNA tests we had completed indicates relatedness among us and several participants' paper trails leads back to old Benjamin. However we need more participants to help lead us back to England, Scotland or elsewhere in Europe. The mysteries of locating ancestors sometimes gets about as complicated as "Cold Case Files". LOL! Keep up the good work. Wayne

Ernie, Certainly, they are confusing enough to keep me busy sorting them out the rest of my life.:0 Howard