Thank you, Thank you. I knew Jacob was at one time in Walker County but unable to find him and family. Most of my info has come from my grandfather who was son of Martha Pairlee Busbee. You can add the following to the list of children that were found in Walker County Census: Jacob Latin Busbee Jr. Martha Pairlee Busbee Pauline Busbee Teresa

There is a Jacob Busbee - 36 years old, married to Rebecca on the 1860, Walker County, Alabama census. Children are: William H. - 12 Tillitha E. - 10 Vicy J. - 7 Louisa - 5 John A. - 2 Jean

Jacob Latin Busbee married Rebecca Wood and they lived in Lincoln Co., TN. Some offspring moved to TX and some stayed in TN and North AL. Teresa Wilbanks

Martin V. Buzbee is son of William and Elizabeth Key Buzbee.

Lots of good info, thanks. I have found the Busby/Buzbees in census records living close to one another in 1860. I have found your William, Jr. listed as Bushbee on the 1860 census. LeRoy M. and John T. Busby are sons of Stephen living close by. So, Martin V., Jacob, and Hutson, who are also listed close by must be brothers of William, Jr.? Elizabeth is living with William, Jr. in this census. And poor Silas! Why on earth would the world need to know that the census taker judged him Idiotic!!! The only other clue I have, as I said in an earlier email, was that Stephen's daughter, Harriett, is listed as living with Stephen in 1860, having been born in Mississippi in 1835 or 1836. I haven't been able to find Stephen on any MS census records yet, so he must not have stayed there long. Jean

Martin v. And Hutson Hall Buzbee were brothers As well as Jacob latin, Silas poor Silas what happen to him? ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL Lots of good info, thanks. I have found the Busby/Buzbees in census records living close to one another in 1860. I have found your William, Jr. listed as Bushbee on the 1860 census. LeRoy M. and John T. Busby are sons of Stephen living close by. So, Martin V., Jacob, and Hutson, who are also listed close by must be brothers of William, Jr.? Elizabeth is living with William, Jr. in this census. And poor Silas! Why on earth would the world need to know that the census taker judged him Idiotic!!! The only other clue I have, as I said in an earlier email, was that Stephen's daughter, Harriett, is listed as living with Stephen in 1860, having been born in Mississippi in 1835 or 1836. I haven't been able to find Stephen on any MS census records yet, so he must not have stayed there long. Jean ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

That is fine Kathy, apology accepted they may be words that can`t be taken back but they can be forgotten and all is forgotten. Thank you for caring Sandra > Hi Sandra! I offer my sincere apology if I in any way offended you, or someone else on this list. You are absolutely right. I should never comment on something I do not understand or believe. I was completely out of line. Unfortunately, I cannot take back what my big mouth (in this case fingers) wrote. Once spoken (or written) words are out and do not come back. Please, please forgive me. I promise to be more guarded in what I say from now on. > > kathy > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > This is a very friendly list, so please feel free to ask for help or see if you connect with Busbys/Busbees/Buzbees/Busbices on the list. >

Hi Sandra! I offer my sincere apology if I in any way offended you, or someone else on this list. You are absolutely right. I should never comment on something I do not understand or believe. I was completely out of line. Unfortunately, I cannot take back what my big mouth (in this case fingers) wrote. Once spoken (or written) words are out and do not come back. Please, please forgive me. I promise to be more guarded in what I say from now on. kathy

We didn't Know Jacob Latin Busbee was in the war but heven't research him much,But we have Jacob Latin born feb 1824 followed by an Elizabeth 1829 then William jr about 1830.William jr. enlisted in the Ala Calvalry in Arkadelphia with brother Dock, but I also have info that William jr. was in 32nd Ala. Calv. at end of war A lot of units were moved around during the war, and confederate records are hard to find. I'm still researching this through Stanford U.I thought Jacob left Ala. when he got married andnever went back to Ala. and his offspring Eventually ended up in Ark. I believe. I had a note on my papers Lawrence county Tenn, so I checked the map and theres a town called Busby there.Somebody thought that maybe some of these Busbys might have gone to Tenn after the war to find work for a couple a three years. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL I also watch the boards for any info that might be related to my Buzbee line. I believe that we may be researching some of the same. Of course all are probably related. Are you saying that Stephen is the older brother of William Buzbee (m. Elizabeth Key)? William is my 3rd g-grandfather. William had a son Jacob Latin Busbee. I did not know that Jacob was the name of William's father until I read your post. Jacob Latin Busbee named his oldest son William and he named his son Jacob. Which gives me Jacob - William - Jacob - William - Jacob. Each named their oldest son after their father's. Oh, what a confusing concept. :) William's two sons, Jacob and Martin (he died during the war) were in the Confederacy. Jacob lived to collect a pension. I haven't been able to discover why Jacob Latin Busbee left Walker County and moved to Lincoln County, TN. Could someone tell me where I can find the info that William Buzbee and Elizabeth Key were married in St. Clair County in 1821. I too believe that the Keys and Buzbee's travelled together. A few of William and Elizabeth's children married Keys. Teresa Wilbanks ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

We have not seen any evidence of any of Stephens offspring Marrying Keys,But several of William sr. Buzbees offspring marrying Keys for at least 4 generations. this is our Family line,Love those Key researchers. ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL I think we are on to something here. I grew up in the part of Walker County, AL where Stephen Busby lived and died. In fact the Busby cemetary where Stephen and Elizabeth and other Busbys are buried is only about a mile from my Mom's home. I was transferred on my job last June to Little Rock, AR where I now live - outside of Alabama for the first time in my life. I think I'll make a list of all the headstones there the next time I visit and see if that helps anybody - and in the process maybe me too. I do know that Key was a very prominent name in the Goodsprings, Walker County, AL community that I grew up in. In small communities like that most folks who have lived there for a few generations are usually related somehow, but the Keys were one surname that I have never found evidence of a strong connection with. Maybe the Busby men who married them moved elsewhere. I do know that Stephen's daughter Julie Ann married Thomas Jefferson Sanford (my great grandparents). Thomas Jefferson's Uncle, also named Thomas Jefferson Sanford moved to St. Clair County and is listed there on the 1860 census. I am looking in Heritage Quest census records and have been unable to find William Busby in St. Clair County. Could you tell me which census year lists him there? Jean Coan ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Busbee Busby and Variations Database http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

There are several typos in this info, but there is other info to back up the marriages and names, as far as we know there is only one William Buzbee in Walker county matching these dates the only other one is his son William BuzbeeJr. born feb. 1833 and this william is some 30 years later William sr. MarriedElizabeth Key Daughter of John Key and Belinda Milstead this is all heavily Documented through the Key family.A census I believe in 1810 showed this family had more children then just the five we know about there were two older sisters and an older Brother Stephen fits the Dates, but what happened to the sisters? did they stay in S.C. they were certainly old enough, as well as Stephen. Jacob moved to St. Clair about 1820, And he's not on the census in either state for that year, maybe Ga.John Jacob is also buried at Ashville with his wife. Somebody on the internet has all the info on these folks and in the book of Buzbees there a lot. But you really have to know your Buz! bees. When they get back to S.C. it seems allthe Busbys other than a few are related and seem to come from Henrico Va. 1600 the Busbys start floating over from England, but knowbody for sure can tye the England - Va. thing together as well as Va. to S.C. but of course were talking before 13 colonies.All the St. Clair Busbys/Buzbees are ours/yours all same family line 100% The not so famous ones went to Walker county and the famous ones went to coosa co. But unfortunately none of this generation or the previous have gravestones and we haven't even found William jr. stone so that's 4 gens of Know Stones.We think William and Elizabeth are either Buried in unmarked graves at Busby cem or with John and Belinda Milstead Key at Drummond Cem. (unmarked) or at Mt. Hope (most probable) or even at Ashville in St. Clair.(least probable being all the Buzbees were already dead or moved far away by the time William sr. died around mid 1850's Elizabeth following soon after mid 1860's, I thi! nk there at Mt. hope where a lot of there offspring are buried including there kids, Since Elizabeth lived with William jr. when sr. Died Also William jr.s infants are buried there along with Docks Kids and infants.Joe C is living on the land that William jr. owned then Will jr. moved to Nauvoo area? (recent info)William Buzbee has a land patent along with his son Martin V. But originally they married Keys and that was Key land, So the land might have been gifts for wedding those Keys.The area is only a mile or so from Stephens Land.(Tuscaloosa Steve)Dock owned land in Arkadelphia which I believe was Walker Co. then in 1900 it was Blount co. and in 1910 it was Cullman co.He didn't move any where just every thing else changed.That 20.00 investment to genealogy.com gave us unlimited census for all states and a lot of it was indexed. So you can use ther search to even track down misspelings Busby/Buzby/Buzzbee/Bussbee/Bisbee.One other note Jacob was a rev. War vet and its docum! ented several Busbys have joined DAR for it he attained the rank of private, But the highest ranking Busby was his Son Jerimiah who attained the rank of 2nd. Lt in the Civil War 2nd. Reg. Ala. Cavalry Co. G and 1st. Lt. in logans Co. Alabama mounted reserves. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda Mayo To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL Jean, I don't have a census listing William Buzbee in St. Clair County, only the record of William Buzbee marrying Elizabeth Key or the record has Elizabeth Rey and the records on the history of St. Clair County. It just happened that the month I visted St. Clair County there was a story about Jacob Buzbee in the St. Clair Magazine (October 2003) The article titled "Marion's Man" was about Jacob Buzbee serving in the Revolutionary War. In that article it states that Jacob Buzbee came to St. Clair County with his wife Jane and their four sons to live in St. Clair County in 1820. It states his sons married there - William to Elizabeth Rey in 1821 Joshua to Susan Moore in 1829 Jacob, Jr. to Lauren Allman in 1831 Jeremiah to to Alla T. A. Elliot in 1833 There is a first person account of Jacob Buzbee's 19 months of service in Birmingham/Jefferson County Library which is reviewed in the article (there is also a website with Jacob Buzbee's family information and first person account). Jacob Buzbee was born in 1762 Orangeburg District of South Carolina and died August 22, 1839. Jacob Buzbee and his wife Jane are believed to be buried in Ashville Cemetery although their graves are unmarked. It is too bad that no one knows the exact grave and that there is no grave marker for this soldier. Jacob Buzbee is listed as Jacob Bugby in the 1830 census of St. Clair County, AL at ancestry. (don't know if William went on to Walker County after his marriage or not, but to add to the confusion, there is another William Buzbee in Walker County area about the same time frame as William who married Elizabeth Key) Glenda ---- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > I think we are on to something here. I grew up in the part of Walker County, > AL where Stephen Busby lived and died. In fact the Busby cemetary where > Stephen and Elizabeth and other Busbys are buried is only about a mile from my > Mom's home. I was transferred on my job last June to Little Rock, AR where I now > live - outside of Alabama for the first time in my life. I think I'll make a > list of all the headstones there the next time I visit and see if that helps > anybody - and in the process maybe me too. > > I do know that Key was a very prominent name in the Goodsprings, Walker > County, AL community that I grew up in. In small communities like that most folks > who have lived there for a few generations are usually related somehow, but > the Keys were one surname that I have never found evidence of a strong > connection with. Maybe the Busby men who married them moved elsewhere. I do know that > Stephen's daughter Julie Ann married Thomas Jefferson Sanford (my great > grandparents). Thomas Jefferson's Uncle, also named Thomas Jefferson Sanford moved > to St. Clair County and is listed there on the 1860 census. I am looking in > Heritage Quest census records and have been unable to find William Busby in > St. Clair County. Could you tell me which census year lists him there? > > Jean Coan > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== RootsWeb Resource Cluster http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

hmmm the governor's genealogist slipped up there...I would say we are lucky to have more information more easily sourced that genealogists in the 50& 60's and before. I don't think it matches William Reese Busby in any case, in age or land plot. Thanks Gaila Are there any Busbys on the list that are descended from Thomas-Jeremiah-Nathan Busby we discussed earlier, who is in contact with a Busby male from this branch -someone who might lend us dna? What about the Nathan of Falls County Texas line? Stephen Busby line? Which other lines can we test and see who they match up with? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese > In a message dated 1/16/2004 8:09:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > There is no William Busby in the entire state of Georgia (census) in 1830. > > > > > > There is a Wm. C. Busbee listed on the 1830 Crawford County, GA census. > Living next to Fredrick Busbee and not fae from Elisha Busbee. > > William Busbee dwelling # 164 > Males: 2-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 Females: 1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > Fredrick Busbee dwelling # 176 > Males: 3-0-2-0-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 Females: 2-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > Elisha Busbee dwelling #163 > Males: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 Females: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0 > > kathy > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > This is an open forum so please keep postings to the Busbee/Busby and related families. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > >

Kathy I think the remark about the mormons was uncalled for. Their are people on this list that are LDS including myself, and I for one didn`t appreciate it. Sandra > > Please allow me to digress a moment in case some readers do not know about Family History Centers. Part of the Mormon religion is to do family research. They think they can then pray all their ancestors into becoming Mormons. I will make no comment on that at all. The good thing for other genealogists is that because it is a part of their religion, the Mormons have spent millions going all over the world and copying records (church, county, government, etc.). I could not even begin to guess the vast amount of microfilm, not to mention books they have. The really good thing is that you do not have to travel to Salt Lake City to take advantage of their vast collection. The local Family History Centers can borrow almost all rolls of microfilm for you (at a $3.75 per roll charge). They cannot borrow books. There are volunteers at the centers to help you with your research. One thing I seldom use is their computer ancestor files. I have looked at far too many ance!

I did not catch the remark about the Mormons, but I have been able to access, Wills, Deeds, Land Grants, excerpts from books copies of military and church records through the Family History Centers that I would not have found through any other source. I will say that I have found some information that was submitted by individual families to be incorrect. However, I have found this to be true in the Ancestors and Descendants posted on family trees and websites. Many Libraries now have connections with LDS and can order the Microfilms. Edwina -----Original Message---- Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Doing research Kathy I think the remark about the mormons was uncalled for. Their are people on this list that are LDS including myself, and I for one didn`t appreciate it. Sandra > > Please allow me to digress a moment in case some readers do not know about Family History Centers. Part of the Mormon religion is to do family research. They think they can then pray all their ancestors into becoming Mormons. I will make no comment on that at all. The good thing for other genealogists is that because it is a part of their religion, the Mormons have spent millions going all over the world and copying records (church, county, government, etc.). I could not even begin to guess the vast amount of microfilm, not to mention books they have. The really good thing is that you do not have to travel to Salt Lake City to take advantage of their vast collection. The local Family History Centers can borrow almost all rolls of microfilm for you (at a $3.75 per roll charge). They cannot borrow books. There are volunteers at the centers to help you with your research. One thing I seldom use is their computer ancestor files. I have looked at far too many ance! ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Folks- Just wanted to let you all know that I can freely use Heritage quest online census records with my William F. Laman Public Library card # here in Little Rock, AR. The website is www.heritagequestonline.com. Don't know whether your library is a subscriber or not, but it might be worth a try. Heritage quest has census records for 1790, 1800, 1810, 1820, 1860, 1870, 1890, 1900, 1910, 1920, and it's use is free to me even at home, using my library card number. I assume every state in the union is included. All that I have tried have been. There is a search engine, and, if I am looking for all the Busbys in Alabama, I just type in Busby, the census year and Alabama. I get every county in Alabama that has a Busby listed on that particular year. I can click on each person individually and the scanned copy of the original document comes up to scroll through here at home. The quality is also quite good. It has made research a lot easier. Thought those of you who don't know about it might be interested. Jean Coan

Hi Gaila! You wrote: "My copy is poor and I am going to see if my new HP scanner cleans the photocopy "noise' from the image without taking the actual handwriting away. Kathy, is your copy clear?" Yes, Gaila, my copies are fairly clear. I do not make my own copies when at the S.C. Archives. I always let them make copies, though it is hard to have to wait 2-3 weeks for the copies. However, it is worth it in that they make the clearest copies possible. Kathy

A cousin recently sent me this website and it may be helpful for those who are trying to transcribe documents written in the 1600s, 1700s and early 1800s. Joyce Old English Handwriting Von Stachon recently transcribed about 600 court records, deeds and wills for several counties in Virginia. She made images of many of the common words found in these old documents, and has prepared a table showing the handwriting with the transcribed word. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/oldenglish/oldenglish.htm

Here's the link to Busby info from my cousin Jabe Fincher, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jabe0321/pafg21.htm#422 Ernie Smith Charleston,SC

Hi Gaila! First, let me confess that genealogy is not only my hobby but my passion. I really get into it. Fortunately, my husband is as bitten by the genealogy bug as I am so we both are having a ball with it. My research can be divided by home, near home, and trips. When at home (Ormond Beach, FL) I use the Family History Center in Daytona Beach. They have a really good one there. I always have a stack of microfilm in and on order. For example, the Twiggs County, GA Tax Digest I mentioned was from film borrowed from the FHC. Please allow me to digress a moment in case some readers do not know about Family History Centers. Part of the Mormon religion is to do family research. They think they can then pray all their ancestors into becoming Mormons. I will make no comment on that at all. The good thing for other genealogists is that because it is a part of their religion, the Mormons have spent millions going all over the world and copying records (church, county, government, etc.). I could not even begin to guess the vast amount of microfilm, not to mention books they have. The really good thing is that you do not have to travel to Salt Lake City to take advantage of their vast collection. The local Family History Centers can borrow almost all rolls of microfilm for you (at a $3.75 per roll charge). They cannot borrow books. There are volunteers at the centers to help you with your research. One thing I seldom use is their computer ancestor files. I have looked at far too many ance! stor files that are riddled with errors to rely on them. They can be a helpful first step though but always follow up with your own research. The web address for the Mormons is: www.familysearch.org. It is an easy web site to use and I always look first at the library catalogue to find out what I want. Examples of what I order on microfilm are: land deed books, will books, estate records, marriage records, tax records, and court records. You really do not have to travel all the time to do research with those kinds of records at your finger tips. Hope that helps those who might not know about it. Now, back to answering your question. At home I also write for copies of documents either from county offices or state archives. I find sites for state archives on line and email them for help. In the past I have borrowed microfilm from state archives through interlibrary loan. That was because we were living in New Hampshire and as a faculty wife, I had access to Dartmouth College's fantastic Interlibrary Loan Department. Now that we have moved to Florida, I will lose that opportunity. Near home, I am only an hour and 15 minutes from Orlando Public Library. They have a top notch genealogy department. In addition to countless books, they have all of the U.S. census. That is where I do all my census searching. I make copies of everything and then bring it home to study. As far as trips go, we go to the Alabama Archives and the S.C. Archives about once a year each. Since Georgia is so close now, we have taken several genealogy research trips through those counties. The same is true of Alabama. We have been to the N.C. Archives also but they are further away. We have taken trips to Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana for me to research my mother's side. I find that nothing can beat actually getting into the counties where your ancestors lived. It always takes weeks to go through all we collect on those trips. The trip to Indiana included three days at the fantastic Fort Wayne Library. When living in New Hampshire, we took frequent trips to Boston to use the great New England Genealogical Society Library. Right now we are planning a trip to Vidalia, GA to use the Ladson Genealogical Library which is suppose to be great for southern research. Hopefully we will go early February. Those of you researching in S.C. or GA know the complete frustration of visiting a county for research only to find it was one burned by Sherman. On one trip to S.C., I was so angry about that whole situation that when the people in Orangeburg said they were a Sherman burned county, I angrily blurted out, "It's a good thing that man is dead or he would be when I got my hands on him!" My husband was mortally embarassed but the clerks were rolling on the floor in laughter. Sorry that was a much too long an answer. Kathy

Hi Gaila! You wrote: "Kathy can you read the name on your copy of the person above William Dent? He could be a neighbour or relative." Well Gaila, do you like to tease?!? My best guess is John Gosset. Back then they wrote a "p" when there was a middle "s" though I have never figured out why. Kathy