Agreed, how old was he? Is he censuses before and after and marked in anyway? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHERRY neal" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > It also could have meant insane, but I don't think we will ever know

James Buzbee was listed as appointed as an administrator of Rutland Academy. This is probably James Busbee, son of William Reese Busby, as this is the area in Bibb County that he lived. Gaila ACTS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE State of Georgia, PASSED IN MILLEDGEVILLE AT AN ANNUAL SESSION IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, 1832. [missing title] ACADEMIES. > 1837 > > BIBB Sec. 33. And be it further enacted, That Thomas > Gates, Henry Newsome, Joshua Jordan, Simon Parker, and > Lewis Laushe be, and they are hereby appointed > Trustees for Warrior Academy, in the county of Bibb. > > BIBB Sec. 34. And be it further enacted, That Aaron > Lessel, James R. Buzbee, James McElmurry, Zachariah > Cowart, and Green McDonald be, and they are hereby > appointed Trustees for Rutland Academy, in Rutland's > district, in the county of Bibb. >

Hello In some census records there is a box ticked to show this and it was used to note dependency. In other words this was a person who was never going to be productive but always be dependent. Look at Silas's age compared to his brothers and sisters - is he the youngest and his parents are older? Perhaps he was a mongoloid baby, which sometimes happens with older Mothers. If he is in the middle of many children, he may have had a difficult birth. Sounds so harsh now, but would simply mean that Silas was retarded. Gaila

You also have to be careful that they put the remarks by the right person, they put deaf and dumb on the wrong girl on one of the cencus and on the right one the next it was through research that I found which was right. Sandra > From what I remember reading about the terms for the 1860 Census, the term Idiotic means what we now call Developmentally Disabled or mentally handicapped. It was used to describe the segment of the population that appeared to not have the ability to function "normally". It did not usually mean insanity. The polite euphemisms and politically correct phrases we currently use were not used in the 19th Century. > Regards > freedom has its price > Support our Troops > http://opbrightsaber.dizdame55.net

Your right! I found this in the "Your Guide to the Federal Census" by Kathleen W. Hinckley Schedule 1:insane inhabitants,Insane persons were described as suffering from mania(Delirium),Melancholia(Depression),paresis(General paralysis),Dementia,epilepsy, or Dipsomania(uncontrollable desire for spiritous liquors) Schedule 2:Idiots,An idiot was defined as a person with extreme mental deficiency in infancy or childhood. Causes of Idiosy could include Scarlet Fever, Measles,Meningitis, a blow to the head, a fall, or a fright.Demented persons were to be classified as insane. ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne and Sandra To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL You also have to be careful that they put the remarks by the right person, they put deaf and dumb on the wrong girl on one of the cencus and on the right one the next it was through research that I found which was right. Sandra > From what I remember reading about the terms for the 1860 Census, the term Idiotic means what we now call Developmentally Disabled or mentally handicapped. It was used to describe the segment of the population that appeared to not have the ability to function "normally". It did not usually mean insanity. The polite euphemisms and politically correct phrases we currently use were not used in the 19th Century. > Regards > freedom has its price > Support our Troops > http://opbrightsaber.dizdame55.net ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

From what I remember reading about the terms for the 1860 Census, the term Idiotic means what we now call Developmentally Disabled or mentally handicapped. It was used to describe the segment of the population that appeared to not have the ability to function "normally". It did not usually mean insanity. The polite euphemisms and politically correct phrases we currently use were not used in the 19th Century. Regards freedom has its price Support our Troops http://opbrightsaber.dizdame55.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > Silas was 20 in 1860. The word "Idiotic" was written by the census taker > beside his name. > > Jean > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Silas was 20 in 1860. The word "Idiotic" was written by the census taker beside his name. Jean

It also could have meant insane, but I don't think we will ever know ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL I don't know what happened to Silas, but the census taker has him listed as Idiotic. I assume he was retarded, but I have never seen that added on a census record. Jean ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== Send an email to [email protected] with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the subject and/or body of the email. Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

Dave, The only one I have anything on is John b. 1814 in VA or W.VA listed on St. Tammany Parish LA 1840 and 1850 Census. He is my great grandfather. He was John Hamilton Busbey. I am trying to prove that his parents were Esther Shinn (A Quaker dismissed from the Church) and Samuel Busbey. Samuel died about 1816 in Va or WVA and Esther remarried twice. I can't figure out how or when John migrated to LA or how or where he met and married Mary Anna Miller, who was born in Switzerland in 1824. John moved to Caddo Parish, after the 1850 Census where he died in 1854. I, also, feel that there may be a connection THE WILL OF JOHN BUSBY,Hampshire Co., VA Will Book 5, 1809-1815, p. 178 - 180 Transcribed by Patsy Skeels 10/11/00, with the following children: Elizabeth, Matthew, Samuel, John, Benjamin and Hamilton? See http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/bio13.htm I have wondered about the William Busby in Washingon Parish, since my John had a son, William born in Caddo Parish. Hope I can make a connection to prove John's Ancestry. Edwina Searching: MILLER/BUSBY/DEAL/COLE/SHIVERS/PILKINTON Dave wrote all below are taken from census Hi, my busbys are from bladen co. nc. 1790 census ezekiel busby 1800 ezekiel busby over 45 wife over 45 4 sons 1 daughter william busby under 45 wife under 45 4 sons 1 daughter 1810 bladen co. nc. wm. busby & E. busby 1820 " " " Ezekiel Busby jr. 1820 meklenburg co. nc. Wm. busby m. mary morrow 1830 northhampton co. nc. wm. busby 1830 washington parish la. wm. busby 1840 st. tam. parish la. john busby 1860 jackson parish la. ezekeil busby age 42 b. Tn. ira age 11 b. Al sarah busby " 40 b. Al. george age 8 b. la. andrew busby " 14 b. Al. elizabeth age ? la. Please, do you have any thing on these folks?? my wife was a busby. dave guillory e-mail [email protected]

Continued from earlier message: BUSLEY ABRAHAM NC NEW HANOVER WILMINGTON DIST 1790 BUSLEY JOHN MA BARNSTABLE BARNSTABLE 1790 BUSLEY JOHN NC ROWAN SALISBURY DIST 1790 BUSLEY ROBERT NC BLADEN WILMINGTON DIST 1790 BUSLEY SOLOMON NC NEW HANOVER WILMINGTON DIST 1790 BUSLEY THOMAS NC NEW HANOVER WILMINGTON DIST 1790 BUSLEY AUSTIN NC DUPLIN NO TWP LISTED 1800 BUSLEY MICHAEL PA ADAMS FRANKLIN 1800 BUSLEY JACOB NC BUNCOMBE NO TWP LISTED 1810 BUSLEY JNO KY PULASKI NO TWP LISTED 1810 BUSLEY JOHN PA PHILADELPHIA W NORTHERN LIBERTIES 1810 BUSLEY THOS SC LAURENS NO TWP LISTED 1810 BUSLEY WILLIAM PA ALLEGHENY ELIZABETH TWP 1810 BUSLEY ABRAM IN WAYNE NO TWP LISTED 1820 BUSLEY CORNELIUS VA JEFFERSON COUNTRY 1820 BUSLEY ISAAC IN WAYNE NO TWP LISTED 1820 BUSLEY LEE VA ISLE OF WIGHT NEW PORT PARISH 1820 BUSLEY LEMUEL ME KENNEBEC FARMINGTON 1820 BUSLEY MARTTHEW NY ORANGE MONTGOMERY 1820 BUSLEY MARY VA ISLE OF WIGHT NEW PORT PARISH 1820 BUSLEY MEREDITH TN GILES PULASKI 1820 BUSLEY ROBERT TN GILES PULASKI 1820 BUSLEY SAML NY NEW YORK 10-WD NEW YORK 1820 BUSLEY SHERWOOD TN GILES PULASKI 1820 BUSLEY THOMAS OH FAIRFIELD AMANDA 1820 BUZBIN HARRIET 30 F W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1870 BUZBIN MILLY A C 39 F W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1870 BUZBIN RICHARD 38 M W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1870 BUZBIN TEMPERANCE 74 F W NC GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1870 BUSBIN STEPHEN PA PHILADELPHIA E NORTHERN LIBERTI 1800 BUSBIN ISAAC 54 M W GA AL CHEROKEE 2-DIST 1860 BUSBIN ISAM 23 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE LEXINGTON P O 1860 BUSBIN JACOB 66 M W SC GA OGLETHORPE LEXINGTON P O 1860 BUSBIN JAMES M 44 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE LEXINGTON P O 1860 BUSBIN JANE 25 F W GA GA ELBERT ELBERTON P O 1860 BUSBIN JOHN 70 M W SC GA OGLETHORPE LEXINGTON P O 1860 BUSBIN JOHN F 38 M W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1860 BUSBIN TEMBA 60 F W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1860 BUSBIN WM O 27 M W GA GA MADISON DANIELSVILLE P O 1860 BUSBIN ASHBELLE 30 M W NY NY MONROE BRIGHTON 1870 BUSBIN DAN 26 M W IL IA LINN PRAIRIEBURG 1870 BUSBIN J F 43 M W GA GA FAYETTE FAYETTEVILLE P O 1870 BUSBIN JAMES 36 M W PA OH FAIRFIELD RUSH CRK TWP 1870 BUSBIN JAS J 22 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE MAXEYS P O 1870 BUSBIN JAS M 54 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE MAXEYS P O 1870 BUSBIN JOHN 50 M W NY NY CHENANGO OXFORD 1870 BUSBIN MARY 40 F B GA GA CHATHAM SAVANNAH 1870 BUSBIN WM D 23 M W GA GA FAYETTE FAYETTEVILLE P O 1870 BUSBIN ALLICK 36 M W AL GA FLOYD 919-MILITIA DIST 1900 BUSBIN BRACE F 31 F W IL NE YORK NEW YORK TWP 1900 BUSBIN ELLEN C 64 F W GA GA HEARD WALNUT 1900 BUSBIN FRANK C 29 M W PA PA LACKAWANNA 17-WD SCRANTON 1900 BUSBIN FRANK L 18 M W WI WI MILWAUKEE 15-WD MILWAUKEE 1900 BUSBIN GEO 74 M W PA PA CLEARFIELD OSCEOLA MILLS 1900 BUSBIN J C 39 M W GA DOUGLAS DOUGLASVILLE 1900 BUSBIN J M 46 M W GA GA DOUGLAS DOUGLASVILLE 1900 BUSBIN JAMES T 53 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE BEAVERDAM 1900 BUSBIN JOHN E 33 M W GA GA FAYETTE 496-MILITIA DIST 1900 BUSBIN JOHN F 45 M W GA GA CHATTOOGA SEMINOLE 1900 BUSBIN MARY J 51 F W AL AL CHEROKEE DIXON 1900 BUSBIN PIERCE 29 M W AL AL ST CLAIR SHEEDON 1900 BUSBIN RUTH A 65 F W GA SC SPARTANBURG SPARTANBURG TWP 1900 BUSBIN SARAH E 69 F W PA PA LEBANON 3-WD LEBANON 1900 BUSBIN SIDNEY 27 M W AL AL CHEROKEE DIXON 1900 BUSBIN WILLIAM 65 M W NY NY CLINTON MOOERS 1900 BUSBIN WILSON 59 M W GA GA FLOYD 2-WD ROME 1900 BUSBIN CHARLEY 37 M W GA SC GREENVILLE GREENVILLE TWP 1910 BUSBIN ELLEN 74 F W GA GA HEARD WALNUT HILL 1910 BUSBIN EMMA F 35 F W NC NC RUTHERFORD HIGH SHOAL TWP 1910 BUSBIN HENRY H 26 M W GA GA HEARD WALNUT HILL 1910 BUSBIN J F 54 M W GA GA CHATTOOGA SEMINOLE 1910 BUSBIN J M 23 M W AL AL MADISON DALLAS 1910 BUSBIN J W 38 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE BEAVERDAM 1910 BUSBIN JAMES M 55 M W GA GA DOUGLAS 1271-MILITIA DIST 1910 BUSBIN JOHN E 42 M W GA GA FAYETTE STARRS MILL 1910 BUSBIN JOSEPH H 49 M W GA GA HEARD WALNUT HILL 1910 BUSBIN M BERNADEBBE SISTE 52 F W PA NY MONROE 9-WD ROCHESTER 1910 BUSBIN MARGUERITE 22 F W MT PA FRANKLIN GREEN TWP 1910 BUSBIN MARY E 73 F W GA AL CHEROKEE SPRING CRK 1910 BUSBIN MAYBELL 27 F W GA LA OUACHITA 16-TWP 1-PCT 1910 BUSBIN SIDNEY 35 M W AL AL ETOWAH HOLLIS 1910 BUSBIN W J 27 M W GA GA FLOYD 1-WD ROME 1910 BUSBIN WILLIAM 25 M W OH OH HAMILTON 20-WD CINCINNATI 1910 BUSBIN WILLIAM P 51 M W AL MS MONROE BOYD'S PCT 1910 BUSBIN WILLIAM T 38 M W GA GA FAYETTE STARRS MILL 1910 BUSBIN CHARLES B PVT 20 M W SC GA WALKER FORT OGLETHORPE 1257-MILITIA D 1920 BUSBIN CHARLEY 26 M B MS IL COOK 2-WD CHICAGO 1920 BUSBIN CHRISTOPHER 23 M W GA FL DESOTO ONA 23-PCT 1920 BUSBIN EDDIE G 28 M B GA GA BALDWIN STATE FARM STATION; GEORGIA ST 1920 BUSBIN HENRY H 36 M W GA GA IRWIN FLETCHER 1760-MILITIA DIST 1920 BUSBIN HERBERT 33 M W IN IN MARION 5-WD; INDIANAPOLIS; CENTER TWP 1920 BUSBIN J M 65 M W GA GA DOUGLAS CROMIES DIST 1920 BUSBIN JAMES M 33 M W AL AL MADISON HUNTSVILLE 1920 BUSBIN JIM 29 M W GA GA FAYETTE WOOLSEY DIST 1920 BUSBIN JOHN F 64 M W GA GA CHATTOOGA SEMINOLE DIST 1920 BUSBIN JOHN F 22 M W GA GA MADISON ILA; POCATALIGO 262-MILITIA DI 1920 BUSBIN JOHN W M 49 M W GA GA OGLETHORPE BEAVERDAM 226-MILITIA DIST 1920 BUSBIN JOSEPH 63 M W CANA NY NIAGARA 5-WD LOCKPORT 1920 BUSBIN JOSEPH H 56 M W GA GA WORTH WARRIOR 1576-MILITIA DIST 1920 BUSBIN LECLAR L 21 M W OH NE LANCASTER LINCOLN 1920 BUSBIN LILIAN D 47 F W GA GA MADISON ILA; POCATALIGO 262-MILITIA DI 1920 BUSBIN LONIE 38 M B GA GA MADISON CARLTON; FORK DIST 203-MILITIA 1920 BUSBIN MARY ETTA 31 F W GA AL CHEROKEE 5-PCT 1920 BUSBIN MATTIE 12 F W AL AL WALKER CORDOVA 1920 BUSBIN RAYMOND 26 M W PA GA FULTON 10-WD; ATLANTA 1920 BUSBIN ROBERT L 19 M W GA GA WORTH WARRIOR 1576-MILITIA DIST 1920 BUSBIN W P 60 M W MS MS CLAY 2-BT 1920 BUSBIN WALTER C 35 M W GA GA CHATTOOGA SEMINOLE DIST 1920 BUSBIN WILLIAM E 25 M W GA GA DOUGLAS CROMIES DIST 1920 BUSBIN WILLIAM L 26 M W GA GA IRWIN FLETCHER 1760-MILITIA DIST 1920 BUSBIN CHARLES B 28 M W GA MD BALTIMORE 26-WD BALTIMORE & CAMP HOLABIR 1930 BUSBIE ??? 34 M W OH OH CUYAHOGA OLMSTED TWP 1910 BUSBIE ANDREW 31 M W IREL UT SALT LAKE 10-WD SALT LAKE 1870 BUSBIE B L 29 M W NC FL LEON TALLAHASSEE P O 1860 BUSBIE BENJAMIN SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE BIRDIE 13 F M LA LA ST LANDRY 4-WD POLICE JURY 1910 BUSBIE CHARLES C 63 M W IN IN FLOYD 1-WD; NEW ALBANY 1920 BUSBIE CHARLES W 33 M W MS MS PERRY 2-BT 1910 BUSBIE CHARLOTTY 24 F W KY KY ALLEN SCOTTSVILLE P O 1860 BUSBIE CHAS 66 M W IREL NY KINGS 7-WD BROOKLYN BORO 1900 BUSBIE CURLEY 19 M B LA AR PULASKI 7-WD; LITTLE ROCK; BIG ROCK 1920 BUSBIE DALLAS B 25 M W FL FL HILLSBOROUGH 12-PCT 1910 BUSBIE DRUSILLA SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE ELISHA SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE ELIZABETH S 70 F W IN IN HUNTINGTON METHODIST MEMORIAL HOME 1920 BUSBIE FERRYBY SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE FLORIDA 46 F W AL FL SANTA ROSA PEA RIDGE 1910 BUSBIE FREDERICK SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE GEORGE A SR 40 M W VT MA MIDDLESEX 4-WD CAMBRIDGE 1910 BUSBIE GEORGIA A 70 F W AL AL CULLMAN EBENEZER 1920 BUSBIE IRA 24 M W GA GA MITCHELL PELHAM; MEIGS 1194-MILITIA DIS 1920 BUSBIE J C 36 MW AL FL ESCAMBIA PALMETTO BEACH 24-PCT 1920 BUSBIE JAMES 27 M W IL IL MCDONOUGH HIRE TWP 1860 BUSBIE JAMES 28 M B FL FL PUTNAM 1-PCT 1900 BUSBIE JAMES 54 M W GA GA MURRAY 8-DIST 1910 BUSBIE JAMES M 31 M W AL TX TARRANT 2-PCT 1910 BUSBIE JOHN SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE JOHN 38 M W IREL UT SALT LAKE 10-WD SALT LAKE 1870 BUSBIE JOSEPH 39 M W NY NY ALBANY 13-WD ALBANY 1920 BUSBIE JOSEPH E 30 MW PA NJ UNION 2-WD ELIZABETH 1860 BUSBIE LARKIN 37 M W NC NC WAKE MIDDLE CRK TWP 1900 BUSBIE LEE T 24 M W GA SC SPARTANBURG SPARTANBURG TWP 1900 BUSBIE LETITIA 80 F W NY OH CUYAHOGA OLMSTED TWP 1910 BUSBIE MARTIN 26 MW TNTN RUTHERFORD MURFREESBORO P O 1870 BUSBIE MATTA 31 F W KS KS ANDERSON LINCOLN 1900 BUSBIE MICAJAH SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE NATHAN SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON1800 BUSBIE NATHANIEL SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE NEEDHAM SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE PATSEY VA GLOUCESTER GLOUCESTER 1810 BUSBIE ROBERT SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE ROBERT S 45 M W CANA MA SUFFOLK 12-WD BOSTON 1910 BUSBIE SEABORN B 42 M W GA GA CRAWFORD 529-MILITIA DIST 1900 BUSBIE SHERROD SC ORANGEBURG LEXINGTON 1800 BUSBIE THOMAS 34 M W CANA MA NORFOLK BELLINGHAM 1910 BUSBIE WESLEY 26 M W GA GA MURRAY 8-DIST 1910 BUSBIE ZACK H 35 M B SC GA EFFINGHAM 11-MILITIA DIST 1900 BUSBAY CARLYLE 33 MW MO MO SCOTLAND JOHNSON 1920 BUSBAY CLIDE 35 M W MO AR CLAY CACHE 1920 BUSBAY FANNY 72 F W SC SC NEWBERRY NEWBERRY 1860 BUSBAY HENRY 40 M W GA FL WALTON EAST RVR P O 1860 BUSBAY JAMES 70 M W MS LA WASHINGTON WARD 5 1900 BUSBAY JOHN 30 M W GA CAMPBELL CAMPBELLTON P O 1860 BUSBAY JOHN M 38 M W MD TALBOT CHAPEL DIST 1900 BUSBAY JOHN M 43 M W MD MD BALTIMORE 8-WD BALTIMORE 1920 BUSBAY LEROY 27 M W SC NC GASTON 2-WD GASTONIA 1900 BUSBAY MAGEN 36 F W IN IN ALLEN 2-WD; FORT WAYNE 1920 BUSBAY MICHAEL J 35 M W CANA ME OXFORD RUMFORD 1910 BUSBAY ROLLEY 62 M W KY IN DEARBORN CLAY TWP 1860 BUSBAY WID PA PHILADELPHIA W DIST SOUTHWARK 1800 BUSBAY WILLIAM 64 MW KY MO SCOTLAND JOHNSON 1920 BUSBAY WILLIAM G 54 M W KY MO SCOTLAND JOHNSON TWP 1910 BUZBAY ANDREW 59 M W NJ NJ ATLANTIC BUENA VISTA TWP 1900 BUZBAY DERRELL 44 M W AL AL JACKSON BIG COON P O 1870 BUZBAY JAS A 27 M W AL MS MARSHALL CHULAHOMA P O 1860 BUZBAY MICAJAH SC SPARTANBURG NO TWP LISTED 1800 BUZBAY MILES 28 M W GA FL HOLMES CERROGORDO P O 1860 Tracy Kirk (Still looking for Drusilla Busby b. abt 1810)

Can you tell us what the famous ones are famous for? We know through DNA that there seem to be 4 seperate lines of Busbys - some with the same Christian names. Where is Nauvoo? Which State? Thank you Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHERRY neal" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > There are several typos in this info, but there is other info to back up the marriages and names, as far as we know there is only one William Buzbee in Walker county matching these dates the only other one is his son William BuzbeeJr. born feb. 1833 and this william is some 30 years later William sr. MarriedElizabeth Key Daughter of John Key and Belinda Milstead this is all heavily Documented through the Key family.A census I believe in 1810 showed this family had more children then just the five we know about there were two older sisters and an older Brother Stephen fits the Dates, but what happened to the sisters? did they stay in S.C. they were certainly old enough, as well as Stephen. Jacob moved to St. Clair about 1820, And he's not on the census in either state for that year, maybe Ga.John Jacob is also buried at Ashville with his wife. Somebody on the internet has all the info on these folks and in the book of Buzbees there a lot. But you really have to know your Buz! > bees. When they get back to S.C. it seems allthe Busbys other than a few are related and seem to come from Henrico Va. 1600 the Busbys start floating over from England, but knowbody for sure can tye the England - Va. thing together as well as Va. to S.C. but of course were talking before 13 colonies.All the St. Clair Busbys/Buzbees are ours/yours all same family line 100% The not so famous ones went to Walker county and the famous ones went to coosa co. But unfortunately none of this generation or the previous have gravestones and we haven't even found William jr. stone so that's 4 gens of Know Stones.We think William and Elizabeth are either Buried in unmarked graves at Busby cem or with John and Belinda Milstead Key at Drummond Cem. (unmarked) or at Mt. Hope (most probable) or even at Ashville in St. Clair.(least probable being all the Buzbees were already dead or moved far away by the time William sr. died around mid 1850's Elizabeth following soon after mid 1860's, I thi! > nk there at Mt. hope where a lot of there offspring are buried including there kids, Since Elizabeth lived with William jr. when sr. Died Also William jr.s infants are buried there along with Docks Kids and infants.Joe C is living on the land that William jr. owned then Will jr. moved to Nauvoo area? (recent info)William Buzbee has a land patent along with his son Martin V. But originally they married Keys and that was Key land, So the land might have been gifts for wedding those Keys.The area is only a mile or so from Stephens Land.(Tuscaloosa Steve)Dock owned land in Arkadelphia which I believe was Walker Co. then in 1900 it was Blount co. and in 1910 it was Cullman co.He didn't move any where just every thing else changed.That 20.00 investment to genealogy.com gave us unlimited census for all states and a lot of it was indexed. So you can use ther search to even track down misspelings Busby/Buzby/Buzzbee/Bussbee/Bisbee.One other note Jacob was a rev. War vet and its docum! > ented several Busbys have joined DAR for it he attained the rank of private, But the highest ranking Busby was his Son Jerimiah who attained the rank of 2nd. Lt in the Civil War 2nd. Reg. Ala. Cavalry Co. G and 1st. Lt. in logans Co. Alabama mounted reserves. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Glenda Mayo > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > > > Jean, > I don't have a census listing William Buzbee in St. Clair County, only the > record of William Buzbee marrying Elizabeth Key or the record has Elizabeth > Rey and the records on the history of St. Clair County. > > It just happened that the month I visted St. Clair County there was a story > about Jacob Buzbee in the St. Clair Magazine (October 2003) The article > titled "Marion's Man" was about Jacob Buzbee serving in the Revolutionary > War. In that article it states that Jacob Buzbee came to St. Clair County > with his wife Jane and their four sons to live in St. Clair County in 1820. > It states his sons married there - > > William to Elizabeth Rey in 1821 > Joshua to Susan Moore in 1829 > Jacob, Jr. to Lauren Allman in 1831 > Jeremiah to to Alla T. A. Elliot in 1833 > > There is a first person account of Jacob Buzbee's 19 months of service in > Birmingham/Jefferson County Library which is reviewed in the article (there > is also a website with Jacob Buzbee's family information and first person > account). Jacob Buzbee was born in 1762 Orangeburg District of South > Carolina and died August 22, 1839. Jacob Buzbee and his wife Jane are > believed to be buried in Ashville Cemetery although their graves are > unmarked. It is too bad that no one knows the exact grave and that there is > no grave marker for this soldier. > > Jacob Buzbee is listed as Jacob Bugby in the 1830 census of St. Clair > County, AL at ancestry. (don't know if William went on to Walker County > after his marriage or not, but to add to the confusion, there is another > William Buzbee in Walker County area about the same time frame as William > who married Elizabeth Key) > Glenda > > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > > > > I think we are on to something here. I grew up in the part of Walker > County, > > AL where Stephen Busby lived and died. In fact the Busby cemetary where > > Stephen and Elizabeth and other Busbys are buried is only about a mile > from my > > Mom's home. I was transferred on my job last June to Little Rock, AR > where I now > > live - outside of Alabama for the first time in my life. I think I'll > make a > > list of all the headstones there the next time I visit and see if that > helps > > anybody - and in the process maybe me too. > > > > I do know that Key was a very prominent name in the Goodsprings, Walker > > County, AL community that I grew up in. In small communities like that > most folks > > who have lived there for a few generations are usually related somehow, > but > > the Keys were one surname that I have never found evidence of a strong > > connection with. Maybe the Busby men who married them moved elsewhere. I > do know that > > Stephen's daughter Julie Ann married Thomas Jefferson Sanford (my great > > grandparents). Thomas Jefferson's Uncle, also named Thomas Jefferson > Sanford moved > > to St. Clair County and is listed there on the 1860 census. I am looking > in > > Heritage Quest census records and have been unable to find William Busby > in > > St. Clair County. Could you tell me which census year lists him there? > > > > Jean Coan > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb Resource Cluster > http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Primary Record Transcriptions > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/prtindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > >

Nice to meet you Leanna. We may not be close kin, but, nonetheless, we are bound to have some of the same blood! Jean

all below are taken from census Hi, my busbys are from bladen co. nc. 1790 census ezekiel busby 1800 ezekiel busby over 45 wife over 45 4 sons 1 daughter william busby under 45 wife under 45 4 sons 1 daughter 1810 bladen co. nc. wm. busby & E. busby 1820 " " " Ezekiel Busby jr. 1820 meklenburg co. nc. Wm. busby m. mary morrow 1830 northhampton co. nc. wm. busby 1830 washington parish la. wm. busby 1840 st. tam. parish la. john busby 1860 jackson parish la. ezekeil busby age 42 b. Tn. ira age 11 b. Al sarah busby " 40 b. Al. george age 8 b. la. andrew busby " 14 b. Al. elizabeth age ? la. Please, do you have any thing on these folks?? my wife was a busby. dave guillory e-mail [email protected]

Yes, this is my John Hamilton Busbey, b. in 1814. The only info I have on John Hamilton's parents is in Josiah Shinn's book. I think his parents are Esther Shinn and Samuel Busbey, but Shinnn's book does not have sources, so I am reluctant to accept this as proof. I know we have talked before, but was it on the Busbey, Miller, Shinn or Quaker list? Subject: [Fwd: [Busbee Busby] FW: MILLERs will do lookups] Tracy wrote I thought this might be your John Hamilton Busby: "Edwina B. Owen" wrote: > Can any of you Busbey's help me. > > I have a Catholic Mass Notice for a Mary Anna Millor. "A native of France, > who departed this life April 13,1848, aged 57 years, 5 months and 27 days" > Have no idea from where it came. > > I believe she may be the mother of: > > Mary Anna Miller BUSBEY > 1850 U. S. Census, Population Schedule, Louisiana, St.. Tammany Parish, Page > 295, HH 770 J. H. Buzby Age 36 Carpenter Property $500 . born Va. > Mary A. Age 36 > born Switzerland > J. H. Age 4, > born in FL > Zacariah Age 2 > born in LA > Joseph Age 1 > born in LA > > Joseph F. Miller Listed on the 1850 Jefferson CO, FL Federal Census Page 3a > Line 20 Age 24, born in Switzerland with/ Auscillla (misspelled) Age 21, > born in Switzerland. Note different spelling for Aurelia. > > Would love to determine where in France or Switzerland they were born and > when and where they entered the U.S. Edwina > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 9:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [MILLER-L] Bunch of MILLERs will do look ups in my stuff > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > This is an open forum so please keep postings to the Busbee/Busby and related families. > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected]

LOL, no not teasing, my copy is a multiple photocopy and is blackened over the name to such an exent that I can't read it. Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyde P. Stickney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: [Busbee Busby] Name above William Dent > > Hi Gaila! > You wrote: "Kathy can you > read the name on your copy of the person above William Dent? He could be a neighbour or relative." > > Well Gaila, do you like to tease?!? My best guess is John Gosset. Back then they wrote a "p" when there was a middle "s" though I have never figured out why. > > Kathy > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > This is a very friendly list, so please feel free to ask for help or see if you connect with Busbys/Busbees/Buzbees/Busbices on the list. > >

I don't know what happened to Silas, but the census taker has him listed as Idiotic. I assume he was retarded, but I have never seen that added on a census record. Jean

Anyone got any info on these folks form Mobile,Al Elizabeth Gasaway m. 1856 John Russell Busby Email me directly,thanks Ernie Smith

Hey Jean! I live in Sheridan, AR which is about 45 minutes south of Little Rock. Wow, although I don't think that we are from the same line it is great to know another fellow Busby researcher is not far away!! ~Leanna Burgess Veazey ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Stephen Busby - AL > I think we are on to something here. I grew up in the part of Walker County, > AL where Stephen Busby lived and died. In fact the Busby cemetary where > Stephen and Elizabeth and other Busbys are buried is only about a mile from my > Mom's home. I was transferred on my job last June to Little Rock, AR where I now > live - outside of Alabama for the first time in my life. I think I'll make a > list of all the headstones there the next time I visit and see if that helps > anybody - and in the process maybe me too. > > I do know that Key was a very prominent name in the Goodsprings, Walker > County, AL community that I grew up in. In small communities like that most folks > who have lived there for a few generations are usually related somehow, but > the Keys were one surname that I have never found evidence of a strong > connection with. Maybe the Busby men who married them moved elsewhere. I do know that > Stephen's daughter Julie Ann married Thomas Jefferson Sanford (my great > grandparents). Thomas Jefferson's Uncle, also named Thomas Jefferson Sanford moved > to St. Clair County and is listed there on the 1860 census. I am looking in > Heritage Quest census records and have been unable to find William Busby in > St. Clair County. Could you tell me which census year lists him there? > > Jean Coan > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/ > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

Hello, If someone can clue me in as to if "Old" Nimrod f/o Sampson f/o Nimrod B. f/o Claborn (of the Crawford Co., GA Busbys) has been proved as the son of Thomas and brother of Jeremiah and Zachariah then I might can get my Dad to join the DNA test, as we descend from this line. Claborn is my Dad's great grandfather. I am new to the Busby research as I just recently found my Busby connection, so I am not clear as to who is from what line. ~Leanna Burgess Veazey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gaila & James Merrington" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese > hmmm the governor's genealogist slipped up there...I would say we are lucky > to have more information more easily sourced that genealogists in the 50& > 60's and before. > I don't think it matches William Reese Busby in any case, in age or land > plot. > Thanks > Gaila > > Are there any Busbys on the list that are descended from > Thomas-Jeremiah-Nathan Busby we discussed earlier, who is in contact with a > Busby male from this branch -someone who might lend us dna? > > What about the Nathan of Falls County Texas line? > > Stephen Busby line? > > Which other lines can we test and see who they match up with? > Gaila > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Busbee Busby] Reese and William Reese > > > > In a message dated 1/16/2004 8:09:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > There is no William Busby in the entire state of Georgia (census) in > 1830. > > > > > > > > > > There is a Wm. C. Busbee listed on the 1830 Crawford County, GA census. > > Living next to Fredrick Busbee and not fae from Elisha Busbee. > > > > William Busbee dwelling # 164 > > Males: 2-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 Females: 1-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > Fredrick Busbee dwelling # 176 > > Males: 3-0-2-0-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 Females: > 2-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 > > > > Elisha Busbee dwelling #163 > > Males: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 Females: 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0 > > > > kathy > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > > This is an open forum so please keep postings to the Busbee/Busby and > related families. > > Listowner: Gaila Merrington [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== BUSBY Mailing List ==== > Busbee Busby and Variations Database Family Histories > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~busby/historiesindex.htm > Listadmin: Gaila Merrington [email protected] >

I am sure everyone is aware of this website but in case you were not, thought you might want to look over the Busby information on it. It is Pam Roland's site http://www.geocities.com/misteshado/Roland.html There is a family tree of descendants of John Busby born Abt. 1659 in East Claydon Burkinghamshire England. There is also marriage certificates for Jacob Buzbee, Jane Buzbee, Jeremiah Buzbee, Joshua Buzbee, Charlotte Buzbee and William Buzbee. Also several pages out of Buzbee Book with Jacob Buzbee's Revolutionary War Accounts. Glenda