Does anyone have information about GUY MOORE BURNS and descendants or ANCESTORS? rob <madbadrob@robburns.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:John, The records do survive in the local churches if you have any idea where to look. Only the documents held at the main Irish records Office were destroyed in the fire of 192? but slowly records in private hands that did survive are being used to reconstruct what they can. So no not everything is lost in Ireland. As for the variants in the surname one should consider BURN also which is the Scottish/ Northern English original spelling. The S being added at a later time. Rob Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [BURNS] One of possibly the greater byrnes tribe is bouncing > > > G'day Susan, > > > At 16:33 30/12/04 -0500, "Rick and Susan" > wrote: > > >Thank you for the most entertaining post I've read in a while, LOL > >Susan in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia > > > Thank you. And yes I think I am supposedly "in charge" of this list in > some way but I do not (yet) have a clue what to do. I'm fairly experienced > in running mailing lists, but my experience relates to the Yahoo ones and > various older types. > > It's just that I don't yet understand the Rootsweb ones properly and have > no experience per se of them. > > I don't even know what URL to go to for one's own list. Or is there an > URL? Can anyone tell me that? > > I'm of largely-celtic ancestry I think, and so am interested in these things. > > There are at least half a dozen diffent (clan and even spurious) origins of > the Burns/Byrnes surname. But I think everyone generally agrees that they > are at root a celtic crowd. > > Masses and masses of them emigated to Blue Ridge type places and became the > so-called "Hillbillies". There's much resemblance in early Irish-type folk > music between colonial Aus, eastern USA mountains country (Appalachia?) and > Eire itself. > > On my mother's side I also have a major German element ("Steiner" surname) > but I have not traced that beyond that fact that it came from "Germany". > > On my father's side we are a family that cannot trace (on surname side > anyway) more than 200 years of history (virtually the Aus part only) > because of the state of records in Ireland .. they managed unfortunately to > set fire to them in the final semi-successful revolt in Dublin in the early > 1900s (around WWI time). > > My family comes from David Burns (a patriot/rebel[?probably/?possibly] but > who also was in the government militia [?maybe drafted, maybe freely > enlisted - nobody knows] from which he deserted) exiled from Ireland as > political prisioner after the 1798 war of independence (in which the native > side of the Irish were rapidly crushed by vast English military superiority > .. as you probably know). His wife, from whom he was separated of course > when transported, wrote to the then Lord Lieutenant in Ireland saying that > he was really highly faithful to the English overlords and should be set > free so that he could help her and the six children escape starvation or > the poorhouse or whatever might befall them without a provider. But in > Dublin in 1798 he was given a life sentence and was thereafter sent here on > the ship "Friendship" which carried a load of political prisioners being > sent out of Ireland. > > Here David married another convict by the name of Ann Reffin, who was from > England (Leicestershire Wolds south of Nottingham). > > That's my family history in a nutshell and there is more about Ann Reffin > (my results of trying to backtrack in that direction) viewable at > http://www.geocities.com/doctorjohn72/reffin.htm > > There you can see that the town where she was baptised, Walton on the > Wolds, is very nicely preserved. > > Please send along any URLs of any websites you know about by Burns/Byrnes, > especially if of a family history or general historical flavour ... Perhaps > could make a compilation of those .. Or has somebody done that already? > > > Happy New Year, > > > > John Byrnes > > (Sydney, Australia) > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx *** Scripture to live by: A wise man's heart directs him toward the RIGHT, but the foolish man's heart driects him toward the LEFT. Ecclesiastes 10:2 Bill & Eva Mosley 3743 W. Robinson Ave. Fresno,CA 93722 559-271-2226 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com