The earliest record we have of John Sr. is the June 18, 1766 land grant in Pittsylvania Co., Va of 400 acres between Long Branch of Sandy River and WIlliam Burns Branch, running along the course of both, and 400 acres on Ironmongers Branch of Horse Pasture Creek at order line up both sides. John enlisted for 9 months as a Sub, for Archibald Robertson in 1777 according to his widow who applied for pension on December 12, 1845. Note: John's daughter Sarah married John Leatherwood and the original property purchased by Sarah's Grandfather Charles (254 acres) was at the mouth of Leatherwood Creek, leads this researcher to believe there was a close connection of these families. John served in the same command as brothers William, Andrew, and Alexander and Samuel, under the command of Gen. "Christy" in his campaign against the (hostiles) Indians. After 1783 there is no record of John in Virginia. It is therefore assumed John was en route to (He may have been in North Carolina for a short span) South Carolina. John along with his brothers Samuel, Alexander,, were listed on the 1790 Greenville District Census in South Carolina . Brother William did not join them until after 1797. Brother Andrew was in Kentucky (by 1789). Little is known of his brother Charles Jr., who appears on the 1787 Henry Co. Virginia Tax List, and disappears thereafter. Now to the meat of the subject. John Burns Jr. born January 17, 1777 this date of birth is confirmed by his mothers pension application and is on file in the National Archives. He died in about 1847 in Mississippi, one year before his mother. John Jr. carried the Family Bible with him when he moved his family to Tennessee. He served in the Tennessee Militia. John's family had to search for him and the family bible in order to prove his mother's claim. (at the time of the pension application all they knew was he moved west) His sister Sarah and the family atty. (from Hendersonville, North Carolina) finally located John Jr. and retrieved the bible, with the dates of birth of John Sr.'s children. (again on file with the pension application). I have seen several notes on the internet (Burns list) giving John Jr. a middle initial, I have found none. John Jr. was born in Henry County, Virginia not South Carolina, although he was there with his father on SC Census of 1790. John died in Yalobusha County, Mississippi near Coffeeville. Some of John Jr.'s descendants migrated to Texas, there are 11 children attributed to John Jr. born between 1806 and 1829. My records show he married Mary Anne "Anna" Green about 1805 in North Carolina. Major (Retired) Delbert L. "Del" Collins 14 Melissa Drive Black Mountain, NC 28711 Phone # 828-669-1322 E-Mail : Burns [email protected] NOTE: #1 - I do not post data on the internet. NOTE: #2 - I will only send data to individuals that can prove a connection to My Burns line. (VIA snail mail) NOTE: #3 - I have about 7000 direct descendants of "The Old Scotsman" Charles Burns, Sr., and another 16,000 individuals (connected family groups) Allen, Baker, Bishop, Bolling, Begley, Combs , and on and on.