Don't think so. Since Patrick named his son Charles, it stands to reason that Patrick's father was named Charles and then maybe Charles' father was Patrick. But that is all I have to go on. I need to find Ann Burns. Sue Myers -----Original Message----- From: Famsource@aol.com [mailto:Famsource@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 6:22 PM To: BURNS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BURNS] Patrick Joseph Burns/Martha Jane Dawes Looking for any information on this family. Hoping to find some tie to a Dennis Burns who married Martha Irwin from Derry Twp. PA. around 1795. Martha's father was named Samuel. This could be a relative of Martha & Dennis Burns. 1850 Census Derry Township Westmoreland County Pennsylvania 1012 1036 BURNS Mary 55 f PA 10600 Patienc 30 f PA Samuel 12 m PA Dave - Famsource@aol.com ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237