The earliest record we have of John Sr. is the June 18, 1766 land grant in Pittsylvania Co., Va of 400 acres between Long Branch of Sandy River and WIlliam Burns Branch, running along the course of both, and 400 acres on Ironmongers Branch of Horse Pasture Creek at order line up both sides. John enlisted for 9 months as a Sub, for Archibald Robertson in 1777 according to his widow who applied for pension on December 12, 1845. Note: John's daughter Sarah married John Leatherwood and the original property purchased by Sarah's Grandfather Charles (254 acres) was at the mouth of Leatherwood Creek, leads this researcher to believe there was a close connection of these families. John served in the same command as brothers William, Andrew, and Alexander and Samuel, under the command of Gen. "Christy" in his campaign against the (hostiles) Indians. After 1783 there is no record of John in Virginia. It is therefore assumed John was en route to (He may have been in North Carolina for a short span) South Carolina. John along with his brothers Samuel, Alexander,, were listed on the 1790 Greenville District Census in South Carolina . Brother William did not join them until after 1797. Brother Andrew was in Kentucky (by 1789). Little is known of his brother Charles Jr., who appears on the 1787 Henry Co. Virginia Tax List, and disappears thereafter. Now to the meat of the subject. John Burns Jr. born January 17, 1777 this date of birth is confirmed by his mothers pension application and is on file in the National Archives. He died in about 1847 in Mississippi, one year before his mother. John Jr. carried the Family Bible with him when he moved his family to Tennessee. He served in the Tennessee Militia. John's family had to search for him and the family bible in order to prove his mother's claim. (at the time of the pension application all they knew was he moved west) His sister Sarah and the family atty. (from Hendersonville, North Carolina) finally located John Jr. and retrieved the bible, with the dates of birth of John Sr.'s children. (again on file with the pension application). I have seen several notes on the internet (Burns list) giving John Jr. a middle initial, I have found none. John Jr. was born in Henry County, Virginia not South Carolina, although he was there with his father on SC Census of 1790. John died in Yalobusha County, Mississippi near Coffeeville. Some of John Jr.'s descendants migrated to Texas, there are 11 children attributed to John Jr. born between 1806 and 1829. My records show he married Mary Anne "Anna" Green about 1805 in North Carolina. Major (Retired) Delbert L. "Del" Collins 14 Melissa Drive Black Mountain, NC 28711 Phone # 828-669-1322 E-Mail : Burns [email protected] NOTE: #1 - I do not post data on the internet. NOTE: #2 - I will only send data to individuals that can prove a connection to My Burns line. (VIA snail mail) NOTE: #3 - I have about 7000 direct descendants of "The Old Scotsman" Charles Burns, Sr., and another 16,000 individuals (connected family groups) Allen, Baker, Bishop, Bolling, Begley, Combs , and on and on.

Listers, I seen the e-mail from [email protected] about the book of William Burns and Joanna VanMeter From Scotland to America. I have the book, but I can't make any since from it. Has any one else seen this book and can you tell me how to decipher it?? Leah

My grandfather John Edward Burns was born in Maryland circa 1859. His father's name was also John, but I don't know anything about him. My grandfather's mother died at his childbirth and his father gave him to a family called the "Rabbits". I will have to find the papers that shows the County, I just know that it was close to Washington DC. There may be a connection here and I would like to pursue it. His father would probably have a birth date somewhere around what your talking about. Do you know if your "John" had another son born around 1859 named John Edward? I have hit brick wall getting past my grandfather. I don't even know if he had any brothers or sisters. Maybe there is a connection with your family as they were also from Maryland??? Keep in touch. Preston Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS] Burns Indiana - Virginia - Maryland > I have a John born to Michael born 1738 > I have a John born to Patrick abt. 1738 and a John born to Michael about > 1739, > John born to Mathais was born in either Baltimore or St Mary's Co. > Maryland, (your best bet) I know John born to Patrick was born 1738 or > before because he was listed in his grandfather's will. > John born to Mathais about 1739 is has several brother, Mathais lived in > Frederick Co. Maryland the last account I had of him he had several children > Adam, Michael, Mathais II, William, Samuel, Andrew, Bartholomew, Catherine, > Mary and Verlinda. Some of the places they lived didn't show up in my book > because it only listed the place of birth and last account of family. > Hope this helps. > Dallas > > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > >

I am James R Burns I was borne and raised in Richardson county Nebraska in 1932 My Grandfather was James William burns he came from Va in the late 1800s and bought a 160 acres 2 miles west and 1mile south of Verdon Neberaska Liberty precent where he lived until 1931 he is baried in verdon cemetery. My Fathers name was Clyde A Burns he was borne on the same farm. I dont rember ever rember hearing of an Alonzo Burns but then my father was the youngest of 9 or 10 kids, I still have three brothers living in the area I know his oldest son was named william and he moved to western neberaska can not tell you when. ----- ----- James Burns E-mail > [email protected]< From: "Yvonne Strong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 2:14 AM Subject: [BURNS] RE: Alonzo Burns 1844 Pennsylvania > Good Evening! > > I am still attempting to locate Alzono Burns b: 1844 in PA, son of > William Burns b: abt 1815 in VT and Lydia b: about 1817. > > Alonzo married Alzenia (Boatman) Mosier in 1867 in Falls City, > Richardson County, NE. Alzenia was previously married to William Mosier > and had daughters Adeline and Olive. I have not been able to locate this > couple in the 1870 or 1885 Nebraska Census. > > Is it possible that Alonzo W. Burns who is listed in the St. Joseph, > Missouri Directory - occupation: Police for the years 1887-1889 the > Alonzo I am searching for? > > I would appreciate "any" help locating Alonzo and Alzenia. > > Thank you. > > Yvonne > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Good Evening! I am still attempting to locate Alzono Burns b: 1844 in PA, son of William Burns b: abt 1815 in VT and Lydia b: about 1817. Alonzo married Alzenia (Boatman) Mosier in 1867 in Falls City, Richardson County, NE. Alzenia was previously married to William Mosier and had daughters Adeline and Olive. I have not been able to locate this couple in the 1870 or 1885 Nebraska Census. Is it possible that Alonzo W. Burns who is listed in the St. Joseph, Missouri Directory - occupation: Police for the years 1887-1889 the Alonzo I am searching for? I would appreciate "any" help locating Alonzo and Alzenia. Thank you. Yvonne

<A HREF="http://lion.swem.wm.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/5lTp3Qqi5i/712028/8/541795"> [WebCat] William and Mary Libraries' Catalog</A> http://lion.swem.wm.edu/uhtbin/cgisirsi/5lTp3Qqi5i/712028/8/541795 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- CS71 .B9674 1989 >From Scotland to America : the descendants of William and Joanna Burns, 1718-1987 / by John Thomas Reynolds. Reynolds, John Thomas, 1942- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Author: Reynolds, John Thomas, 1942- Title: From Scotland to America : the descendants of William and Joanna Burns, 1718-1987 / by John Thomas Reynolds. Publication info.: Dale City, Va. : William Burns Association, c1989. Physical description: xii, 187 p. ; 22 cm. Note: Limited ed. of 400 copies. Subject: Burns family. Subject: Burns, William, 1718-1806--Family. Subject: Scotland--Genealogy.

I have a John born to Michael born 1738 I have a John born to Patrick abt. 1738 and a John born to Michael about 1739, John born to Mathais was born in either Baltimore or St Mary's Co. Maryland, (your best bet) I know John born to Patrick was born 1738 or before because he was listed in his grandfather's will. John born to Mathais about 1739 is has several brother, Mathais lived in Frederick Co. Maryland the last account I had of him he had several children Adam, Michael, Mathais II, William, Samuel, Andrew, Bartholomew, Catherine, Mary and Verlinda. Some of the places they lived didn't show up in my book because it only listed the place of birth and last account of family. Hope this helps. Dallas

I'm not Lorene but I can answer that question for you Bedford County was the Parent county of Maury Co. Maury was split off of Bedford County.

Dallas, where can I buy a copy of your book? I think my ggg grandfather William b. abt. 1778 could be the son of Mathias. All my roots are in Montgomery/Frederick Co. Thanks. [email protected] wrote: > I have a John born to Michael born 1738 > I have a John born to Patrick abt. 1738 and a John born to Michael about > 1739, > John born to Mathais was born in either Baltimore or St Mary's Co. > Maryland, (your best bet) I know John born to Patrick was born 1738 or > before because he was listed in his grandfather's will. > John born to Mathais about 1739 is has several brother, Mathais lived in > Frederick Co. Maryland the last account I had of him he had several children > Adam, Michael, Mathais II, William, Samuel, Andrew, Bartholomew, Catherine, > Mary and Verlinda. Some of the places they lived didn't show up in my book > because it only listed the place of birth and last account of family. > Hope this helps. > Dallas > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1

Hello everyone! This is my first posting to the list. I am trying to find the parents of Angellica J. Burns, b: abt 1824 MO, d: Jan 1867, Livingston Co., MO. Married Smith Campbell on 1 Jan 1842, in Franklin Co., MO. They had 7 children: Susan C., Howard M., John S., Alice (or Cordelia), James and Orvill. All children were born in Livingston Co., MO. Possible siblings to Angellica are: Susan C. (m Robt. Armstrong), Thomas (m Mary Jane Kincaid), and Margaret (m Patrick Shannon). These have not been verified. Angellica'a father was known as a "Captain of Ships", and was Irish. Her grandmother was said to have been a Native American. I would appreciate any help anyone could give me on this family. Thanks! Sue [email protected]

Lorene Burns Noennig: You mention a John Burns and Isabella of Maury Co TN. What records put this John Burns in Maury Co? My gggg-grandfather John Burns and wife Isabella Nelson moved to Bedford Co, TN from Rockingham Co, NC in 1807. We have many land transactions of his in Bedford Co, including one to another family member 6 weeks before he died. He bought and sold a lot of property located in what is present day Bedford Co over the years. My John Burns died in 1837. There was another John Burns in Maury Co or Marshall Co who died in the early 1840s, but that was not my John Burns. Bill Burns

Me again I came in contact with someone on the net that seem to think John Sr from Baltimore County Maryland was the father of the John you are looking for and if so he is a relative and fits into my Burns line. John Sr was born about 1737 in St. Mary's Co Maryland and moved later to Baltimore County Maryland where some of his cousin's lived at the time. Just a little tid bit I remembered. Dallas

John I am sure was acquainted with my family because they lived in the same area of middle TN. but as far as I know he was not kin to my line. I have not been able to fit them into my family tree. There is a lot of information about him in the Bedford Co and Maury Co. Records. Dallas

I'm curious about your cousins in Baltimore Co. Our John, one of the three in Bedford Co., TN, was born in Baltimore Co. MD either in 1753 or 1747 (probably 1753?). He gave the two dates in various papers. We don't know who his parents or siblings are. Laurel ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 18 February, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS] Burns Indiana - Virginia - Maryland > Me again I came in contact with someone on the net that seem to think John Sr > from Baltimore County Maryland was the father of the John you are looking > for and if so he is a relative and fits into my Burns line. John Sr was born > about 1737 in St. Mary's Co Maryland and moved later to Baltimore County > Maryland where some of his cousin's lived at the time. > Just a little tid bit I remembered. > Dallas > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

I am trying to find where in Michigan my step-great grandfather and my great grandmother died. John BURNS married my great grandmother Ellen GARVEY MALONE 22 Feb 1909* in Cleveland, OH and then moved to Michigan and nobody ever heard from them again. *SOURCE Marriage Record Application No. 61133 dated Feb 20, 1909 State of Ohio, Cuyahoga County Return Certified that on the 22nd day of February 1909 James Burns and Ellen Malone were married by Rev. F. A. Malloy Vol 72 p. 34. John BURNS was born in Dublin, Ireland 15 Jan 1864* and died 1916 (although, I have nothing to prove the death date and frankly, do not know where it came from). We are assuming that he died in Michigan. According to the Marriage Record, John's parents were Thomas BURNS and Julia CHRISTIAN and John was a fireman. Also according to the marriage record, Ellen's parents were Michael GARVEY and Ellen DONAHUE. Ellen GARVEY (b. circa 1855) married my great grandfather, Michael MALONE probably around 1875 in Ireland. They emigrated to Aliquippa, PA and then moved to Cleveland, OH. Michael died at age 42 in Cleveland on 3 Mar 1890** and Ellen raised their seven children by herself. After the children were out of the house she married John BURNS and moved to Michigan with him. ** Source [email protected] Cuyahoga County Archives, No,. 1160 I am hoping that by finding John BBURNS, I will be able to get some information on Ellen GARVEY MALONE BURNS. We do not even know when she died or where she was living at the time of her death. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Maureen Hodgson [email protected]

Hello, Is your John W. Burns the John W. Burns married to ???? Cunningham. Did he have about 12 children. Several of his children went to Alabama and Texas. That is the John W. Marshall Co. TN. There was also a John Burns in Maury Co. TN married to Isabella ???? that had 7 children and he fought in the Rev. War for the NC line. My gggGrandfather John Burns was also there at that time He was married to Margaret Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson of Marshall Co. TN. He was there by 1811 when he Married Margaret. He stayed until 1835 when he moved to Tippah Co. MS. He was in MS until Aug 1837 when he moved to MO and lived the rest of his life. Do you connect to any of these John Burns? Please let me know, Thank you, Lorene Burns Noennig email [email protected] How does your line connect to one of these Johns

Hello, My gggGrandfather John Burns was born Nov 4, 1788. His birthplace is listed different on the 1850 says NC and and 1860 says SC. I don't know if either is correct. His War of 1812 pension files state he came to TN as a young lad. He was in Bedford Co. TN by 1811 when he married my gggGrandmother Margaret Wilson. The had 9 children. First son drown and I don't have a name. The other children are: John Foster, William B, Robert W. Sarah Malinda, Susannah Matilda, Joseph M, Zachuees Thomas Lafayette and Elihu Dennis. Do any of these names connect to your line? Please let me know. I have hit a brick wall on my gggGrandfather John Burns. His middle name may have been Elias. This I haven't proven. Thank you, Lorene Burns, Noennig email [email protected]

Yes to the first paragraph, married to Mary Cunningham b. 1788. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS] Andrew Jackson Burns- Son of Wiley > Hello, > > Is your John W. Burns the John W. Burns married to ???? Cunningham. Did he > have about 12 children. Several of his children went to Alabama and Texas. > That is the John W. Marshall Co. TN. > > There was also a John Burns in Maury Co. TN married to Isabella ???? that > had 7 children and he fought in the Rev. War for the NC line. > > My gggGrandfather John Burns was also there at that time He was married to > Margaret Wilson, the daughter of James Wilson of Marshall Co. TN. He was > there by 1811 when he Married Margaret. He stayed until 1835 when he moved > to Tippah Co. MS. He was in MS until Aug 1837 when he moved to MO and lived > the rest of his life. > > Do you connect to any of these John Burns? > > Please let me know, > Thank you, > > Lorene Burns Noennig > email [email protected] > > How does your line connect to one of these Johns > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

Hi Jackie. What year was your John born? I have been looking for my gggGrandfather John Burns for many years. I know he was born Nov 4, 1788 in NC /SC. He was in Bedford Co, TN (later became 3 counties, Marshall, Bedford and part of Maury). He married Margaret Wilson Oct 12, 1811 in Bedford Co. They had 9 children. I have a lot of information on this family, if we are connected I will gladly share. Please write and let me know, Thank you, Lorene Burns Noennig email [email protected]

Hello Dallas, I wrote you sometime ago reguarding my ancestor John Burns of Bedford Co. TN. To refresh your memory, This are his stats. John Burns Born Nov 4, 1788 probably in NC. Died Sept. 1, 1860 Polk Co. MO. M/ Oct 11, 1812 Bedford Co. TN Margaret Wilson Born March 4, 1794 Georgia Died Sept 17, 1871 Polk Co. MO Children: All children born in Bedford Co. TN and came to MO with John in 1837 1. son 1813 drowned at age of 4 no name 2. Robert F. Born 1814 3. William B. Born 1816 4. Robert W. Born 1818 5. Sarah Malinda Born 1824 6. Susannah Matilda Born 1826 7. Joseph M. Bonr 1828 8. Thomas Zachuees Lafayette Born 1830 9. Elihu Dennis Borns 1832 John had land in Bedford Co. TN. He was in Tippah Co. MS by 1835 according to his War of 1812 pension file. He came to MO in Aug 1837 where he lived the rest of his life. Do you find any record of this Burns in relation to your Burns? If not have you came across any record of Him? Any help you could give me would be appreciated. If he is in your family I would be interested in your book. Let me know. Thank you, Lorene Burns, Noennig email [email protected]