If he died in Michigan, you might try these links. The first link, GENDIS, was not working tonight but has helped me in the past. http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/pha/osr/gendisx/search2.htm http://www.deathindexes.com/michigan/ Regards, George --- Scott & Sharon <ssmccrosky@lanset.com> wrote: > From: "Scott & Sharon" <ssmccrosky@lanset.com> > Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:39:47 -0700 > To: BURNS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BURNS] looking for G.G.G.GrandFather > > Good day to all , I am looking for info on my > G.G.G.Grandfather one Thomas M.Burns Born May 10, > 1807 in PA. He died on January 01, 1888 in MI. The > problem is this is all the info I have on his birth > and the possible state in which he was born. Any > help on this manner is greatly appreciated. > > Thank you for your time and help in this manner. > R.S. McCrosky Sacramento CA. > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and > search for your ancestors at the same time. Share > your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

Sorry, I have very little info. on my Burns from Penn. at that early date. That's about the time I start my guessing game. It seems our family went to Ohio in the early 1800's then to Missouri by 1834. Someone once told me all Burns's are from the Robert Burns, Scots poet line so I am going to try to start from that point and come forward??? Have you had any luck searching the Penn. records? Are you having the same problem I am with to0 many similar names in Penn. and not other identifying information? Thanks for any help., L. Gray Scott & Sharon <ssmccrosky@lanset.com> wrote: Good day to all , I am looking for info on my G.G.G.Grandfather one Thomas M.Burns Born May 10, 1807 in PA. He died on January 01, 1888 in MI. The problem is this is all the info I have on his birth and the possible state in which he was born. Any help on this manner is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and help in this manner. R.S. McCrosky Sacramento CA. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Sorry, I have very little info. on my Burns from Penn. at that early date. That's about the time I start my guessing game. It seems our family went to Ohio in the early 1800's then to Missouri by 1834. Someone once told me all Burns's are from the Robert Burns, Scots poet line so I am going to try to start from that point and come forward??? Have you had any luck searching the Penn. records? Are you having the same problem I am with to0 many similar names in Penn. and not other identifying information? Thanks for any help., L. Gray Scott & Sharon <ssmccrosky@lanset.com> wrote: Good day to all , I am looking for info on my G.G.G.Grandfather one Thomas M.Burns Born May 10, 1807 in PA. He died on January 01, 1888 in MI. The problem is this is all the info I have on his birth and the possible state in which he was born. Any help on this manner is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and help in this manner. R.S. McCrosky Sacramento CA. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Good day to all , I am looking for info on my G.G.G.Grandfather one Thomas M.Burns Born May 10, 1807 in PA. He died on January 01, 1888 in MI. The problem is this is all the info I have on his birth and the possible state in which he was born. Any help on this manner is greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time and help in this manner. R.S. McCrosky Sacramento CA.

What else have you got for sale? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin and Tammy Hayes" <hotrodhayes@yahoo.com> To: <BURNS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 8:34 PM Subject: [BURNS] Joel Williams Burns >I am looking for a Joel William Burns, born April 23, > 1974 in Louisiana, he had a twin sister who died > shortly after birth, he is believed to be living in > Texas, there are family members from Louisiana who > want to get to know him. > > Tammy Hayes > > Hayeshounds By: > Kevin and Tamara Hayes > Pawnee, Okla. > 918-454-2843 (Home) > 918-841-1110 or 918-841-1707 (Cell) > hotrodhayes@yahoo.com > hayeshounds@cimtel.net > "Mini and not so Mini Dachshunds" > Blk & Tan, Choc & Tan, Red, Dapples in all colors, Smooth and Long Hair. > Will email pictures and Pedigree's. > First shots and worming done. > Stud service also available. > Next litter expected July 21st, 2005 (Choc and Tan's). Mom and dad weigh > 12-14 lbs. each, both are smooth hair but both carry long hair. > $100.00 deposit to hold a puppy, non refundable, otherwise first come > first serve. Will start taking deposit's after puppies are 4-5 wks. old. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I am looking for a Joel William Burns, born April 23, 1974 in Louisiana, he had a twin sister who died shortly after birth, he is believed to be living in Texas, there are family members from Louisiana who want to get to know him. Tammy Hayes Hayeshounds By: Kevin and Tamara Hayes Pawnee, Okla. 918-454-2843 (Home) 918-841-1110 or 918-841-1707 (Cell) hotrodhayes@yahoo.com hayeshounds@cimtel.net "Mini and not so Mini Dachshunds" Blk & Tan, Choc & Tan, Red, Dapples in all colors, Smooth and Long Hair. Will email pictures and Pedigree's. First shots and worming done. Stud service also available. Next litter expected July 21st, 2005 (Choc and Tan's). Mom and dad weigh 12-14 lbs. each, both are smooth hair but both carry long hair. $100.00 deposit to hold a puppy, non refundable, otherwise first come first serve. Will start taking deposit's after puppies are 4-5 wks. old. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

There is an old family history book that has Burns family history in it. See url to the book below. I emailed the seller and the Burns names she gave that are in the index are: Bernice H. Charles Leman b. at Sugar Creek, Mo 1873 Chester Alexander Clarissa Orton Clinton Sumner b. Waverly, Iowa 1871 Dorothy A. Ella Tinlin Evelyn Florence M. Harrison W. b. Waverly, Iowa 1869 Helen Aplington Helen Clarissa b. Almena, Kansas Heman H. b. Lewiston, NY 1842 Hester Howard Irving Laura Root Lillian Clara b. at Sugar Creek, Mo in 1880 d. Sylvania, Ohio Lois Jean Lucia A. Lulu Ann Mabel McComb Marian A. Mary C. Mattie May Minnie Root Miriam Robert Gates b. Toledo, Ohio 1884 Romeo Gates b. Lewiston, NY 1843 d. Sylvania, Ohio 1908 Roscoe G. Sabrina Mabon Sumner b. Schlosser (now part of niagara Falls) NY 1811 Thomas I. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&category=2980&item=5584270548 Or go to ebay and do a search for item number: 5584270548 Thanks, Jim

Burns deeds located in Jericho VT town clerks office Vol Grantor To Grantee Page 5 BURNS, Samuel To BURNS, Jane 7 5 Burns, Samuel To BURNS, Daniel & Sophrana 7 5 Burns, Samuel To BURNS, Samuel Jr & Lois Burns 8 5 Burns, John To BURNS, Samuel & Desire 20 5 Burns, David To Ou? Harvey 36 5 Burns, David To Hosea Spaulding 89 5 Burns, Samuel To BURNS, John 100 5 Burns, David To Peter L. Allen 232 5 Burns, John To Charles S. Peaslee 436 6 Burns, Desire To James Livingston 18 6 Burns, John To James Livingston 18 6 Burns, John To BURNS, Jane 32 6 Burns, John To Charles S Peaslee 41 6 Burns, John To Nehimiah Prouty 42 6 Burns, John To BURNS, Desire 42 6 Burns, John To BURNS, Samuel 43 6 Burns, John To BURNS, David et al 48 6 Burns, John / David ** To John Bliss 80 **Note: John is crossed out & David written above 6 Burns, Samuel To Aria & Ira Stevens 112 6 Burns, John To Lyman Field 153 6 Burns, Samuel To Town of Jericho 160 6 Burns, John To Lyman Field 273 6 Burns, John To Enoch Bean 311 6 Burns, Jane To Spencer Cilley 514 8 Burns, Daniel To Walter Russell 148 8 Burns, Samuel & Lois To Walter Russell 149 8 Burns, Daniel To BURNS, Samuel & Lois 151 8 Burns, Samuel & others To Erastus Field 388 8 Burns, Jr Samuel & Lois & Dan'l To George B Oakes 543 9 Burns, Daniel, Samuel & Lois To William E Oakes 52 **************************** Vol Grantee From Grantor Page 5 BURNS, David From Able Castle 88 5 Burns, David From Prosper Blackman 89 5 Burns, David From Truman Galusha 216 5 Burns, John From Martin Chittenden 300 5 Burns, John From Chas. S. Peaslee 467 6 Burns, John From Simeon Pease 33 6 Burns, Samuel From Ariel & Ira Stevens 159 6 Burns, John From John Stevens 168 6 Burns, John From ??Eraser Hill 273 6 Burns, John From Lyman Field 379 8 Burns, Daniel From Chaucy & Sophona Bellows 147 8 Burns, Daniel From Nelson Door 150 8 Burns, Samuel & Lois From BURNS, Daniel 151 9 Burns, Daniel From Olin D White 263

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I am looking for an Ann Burns that was in an orphan asylum in Binghamton, NY in 1880. She was enumerated with a Patrick Joseph Burns (presumably my great grandfather) who married Martha Jane Dawes. Sue Myers -----Original Message----- From: Linda [mailto:lindadougan47@mail.worldconnx.net] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:05 AM To: BURNS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BURNS] anna- girls home Hi, Looking on any info on Anna Burns doyle. Seems like she was in a girls home in Albany Ny, in 1860. No other burns relatives listed. Thank You Linda Dougan ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the TBSWebMail system at mail.worldconnx.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi, Looking on any info on Anna Burns doyle. Seems like she was in a girls home in Albany Ny, in 1860. No other burns relatives listed. Thank You Linda Dougan ________________________________________________________________ Sent via the TBSWebMail system at mail.worldconnx.net

Thank you so very much. I was considering it.

This was sent to another list that I belong to and the list administer sent this to inform us of this guy. I thought I'd better share it with this list too. I'd hate anyone to get scammed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathi Jones-Hudson" <mdcat.geo@yahoo.com> To: <JONES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Jones] Scots Irish Genealogical Research Materials >I wasn't going to comment on the Research Materials, > but the person who posted is a well-known spammer. He > has been (again) put on global reject by Rootsweb > after his hit & run on many lists. The resources he > calls "rare" are not--most are in library collections > and he will probably ask for money when you contact > him. So I suggest no one contact him about his offer. > > He is not on the Jones List, he joined just to post > his message and then immediately unsubscribed. So > please don't post any responses to his message here. > > Kathi Jones-Hudson > JONES List Administrator > > > > ==== JONES Mailing List ==== > Direct your questions, comments or problems to the listowner at > jones-admin@rootsweb.com > For detailed instructions on subscribing and unsubscribing visit this > site: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/j/jones.html > browse the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/jones > search the archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=JONES > Unusual JONES given names, > http://members.aol.com/stjones/jones/oddnames.html > >

Hi listers I am new to the list. One of the branches of my tree I am researching is the BURNS family who resided in Johnstone and Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland from the 1860s onward. I have a reasonable amount of ancestory information. However, my g-grandmother Jeanie BURNS born in 1872 (married name BRYCE) died in 1903 shortly after my grandmother's birth. The family moved to Australia in 1910 and had no contact with the BURNS family thereafter and as my grandmother was very young at the time she never knew too much. Jeanie's parents were James BURNS (b circa 1840) & Jane ALLAN (b circa 1841. Her siblings were Margaret (b circa 1864), William (b circa 1866), Archibald (b circa 1870), Christina (b circa 1874), George (b circa 1878) and Agnes (b circa 1880). Is there anybody out there who knows anything about this particular family? Thanks Ray Chandler Ipswich, Queensland Australia

Thanks Rob, At 01:09 01/01/05 -0000, "rob" <madbadrob@robburns.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote: >John, >The records do survive in the local churches if you have any idea where to >look. Only the documents held at the main Irish records Office were >destroyed in the fire of 192? but slowly records in private hands that did >survive are being used to reconstruct what they can. So no not everything >is lost in Ireland. Yes, I realise that, and many people have found their records still in local parishes. But it is a BIG search to find the right parish "cold", first off. The flax producers index, of all who got a flax subsidy, sometimes can narrow it down a bit. My "Burns" has an induction date into the Londonderry Militia which is preserved. This *may* mean that he was a Burns from the North (Ulster). But on the other hand, the time when he was inducted/enrolled (and the roll still survives in UK archives) was 23 April 1795 and other data shows that the Londonderry Militia at that time was at Carrick on Shannon (in central Ireland) and at the time there was major uprising of the Catholic rural people and a famous battle/skirmish occurred at a bridge over the Shannon just a little east of Carrick. So it could be that the military immediately inducted reinforcements then from the local population. And if the family were from thereabouts then statistically they would most likely have been of the O'Beirne clan, quite distinct from the O'Byrne further east. The British indiscriminately spelled them all as Burns/Byrnes at the whim/knowledge of individual clerks, and the ancestors themselves could none-of-them write their own names or records. So the field is just too wide .. could be anywhere in northern or central Ireland I think, and the number of parishes is large (also the parishes are different within the different religious denominations as well). Maybe somebody someday will track down records but there is no simple way to jump back into Ireland's history and find a lost relative it seems(?).... esp. considering that in transportation to Australia NONE of the paperwork was sent with the prisoners. >As for the variants in the surname one should consider BURN also which is >the Scottish/Northern English original spelling. The S being added at a >later time. The muster roll for the Militia states "David Burns .. deserted" so we think he had an "S". A legal document about his in 1805 stated "David Burn" and when he sought a land grant for a farm, after conditional pardon, in 1820, the official memo (Memorial) stated "David Burne" but for the most part the few sparse colonial records put an "S" on the name. But the spellings of all Burn(s)/Byrne(s) in colonial Australian records are highly erratic. You cannot really generalise that there's much system to it here (the spelllings), I don't think. My family does in fact have much Scottish/Northern English flavour too but I think that possibly just comes in later because my closer ancestors married Scottish or norhern English women (of the families Gibson and Graham, which families tended to range northeasterly across the Scottish lowlands and norther England I understand). They fact that at least two times Scottish-background women married into the family here possibly does suggest an inherent "liking"/fondness for the Scots(?); and maybe, just maybe, this could favour an Ulster area family origin back in the 1700s ---- but this is just very weak suspicion/speculation on my part. I don't really expect to see the 'problem' of our family's geographic origin solved on the celtic side ;-) Cheers, John

G'day Susan, At 16:33 30/12/04 -0500, "Rick and Susan" <rickandsusan@swva.net> wrote: >Thank you for the most entertaining post I've read in a while, LOL >Susan in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia Thank you. And yes I think I am supposedly "in charge" of this list in some way but I do not (yet) have a clue what to do. I'm fairly experienced in running mailing lists, but my experience relates to the Yahoo ones and various older types. It's just that I don't yet understand the Rootsweb ones properly and have no experience per se of them. I don't even know what URL to go to for one's own list. Or is there an URL? Can anyone tell me that? I'm of largely-celtic ancestry I think, and so am interested in these things. There are at least half a dozen diffent (clan and even spurious) origins of the Burns/Byrnes surname. But I think everyone generally agrees that they are at root a celtic crowd. Masses and masses of them emigated to Blue Ridge type places and became the so-called "Hillbillies". There's much resemblance in early Irish-type folk music between colonial Aus, eastern USA mountains country (Appalachia?) and Eire itself. On my mother's side I also have a major German element ("Steiner" surname) but I have not traced that beyond that fact that it came from "Germany". On my father's side we are a family that cannot trace (on surname side anyway) more than 200 years of history (virtually the Aus part only) because of the state of records in Ireland .. they managed unfortunately to set fire to them in the final semi-successful revolt in Dublin in the early 1900s (around WWI time). My family comes from David Burns (a patriot/rebel[?probably/?possibly] but who also was in the government militia [?maybe drafted, maybe freely enlisted - nobody knows] from which he deserted) exiled from Ireland as political prisioner after the 1798 war of independence (in which the native side of the Irish were rapidly crushed by vast English military superiority .. as you probably know). His wife, from whom he was separated of course when transported, wrote to the then Lord Lieutenant in Ireland saying that he was really highly faithful to the English overlords and should be set free so that he could help her and the six children escape starvation or the poorhouse or whatever might befall them without a provider. But in Dublin in 1798 he was given a life sentence and was thereafter sent here on the ship "Friendship" which carried a load of political prisioners being sent out of Ireland. Here David married another convict by the name of Ann Reffin, who was from England (Leicestershire Wolds south of Nottingham). That's my family history in a nutshell and there is more about Ann Reffin (my results of trying to backtrack in that direction) viewable at http://www.geocities.com/doctorjohn72/reffin.htm There you can see that the town where she was baptised, Walton on the Wolds, is very nicely preserved. Please send along any URLs of any websites you know about by Burns/Byrnes, especially if of a family history or general historical flavour ... Perhaps could make a compilation of those .. Or has somebody done that already? Happy New Year, John Byrnes (Sydney, Australia)

Does anyone have information about GUY MOORE BURNS and descendants or ANCESTORS? rob <madbadrob@robburns.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:John, The records do survive in the local churches if you have any idea where to look. Only the documents held at the main Irish records Office were destroyed in the fire of 192? but slowly records in private hands that did survive are being used to reconstruct what they can. So no not everything is lost in Ireland. As for the variants in the surname one should consider BURN also which is the Scottish/ Northern English original spelling. The S being added at a later time. Rob Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" To: Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [BURNS] One of possibly the greater byrnes tribe is bouncing > > > G'day Susan, > > > At 16:33 30/12/04 -0500, "Rick and Susan" > wrote: > > >Thank you for the most entertaining post I've read in a while, LOL > >Susan in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia > > > Thank you. And yes I think I am supposedly "in charge" of this list in > some way but I do not (yet) have a clue what to do. I'm fairly experienced > in running mailing lists, but my experience relates to the Yahoo ones and > various older types. > > It's just that I don't yet understand the Rootsweb ones properly and have > no experience per se of them. > > I don't even know what URL to go to for one's own list. Or is there an > URL? Can anyone tell me that? > > I'm of largely-celtic ancestry I think, and so am interested in these things. > > There are at least half a dozen diffent (clan and even spurious) origins of > the Burns/Byrnes surname. But I think everyone generally agrees that they > are at root a celtic crowd. > > Masses and masses of them emigated to Blue Ridge type places and became the > so-called "Hillbillies". There's much resemblance in early Irish-type folk > music between colonial Aus, eastern USA mountains country (Appalachia?) and > Eire itself. > > On my mother's side I also have a major German element ("Steiner" surname) > but I have not traced that beyond that fact that it came from "Germany". > > On my father's side we are a family that cannot trace (on surname side > anyway) more than 200 years of history (virtually the Aus part only) > because of the state of records in Ireland .. they managed unfortunately to > set fire to them in the final semi-successful revolt in Dublin in the early > 1900s (around WWI time). > > My family comes from David Burns (a patriot/rebel[?probably/?possibly] but > who also was in the government militia [?maybe drafted, maybe freely > enlisted - nobody knows] from which he deserted) exiled from Ireland as > political prisioner after the 1798 war of independence (in which the native > side of the Irish were rapidly crushed by vast English military superiority > .. as you probably know). His wife, from whom he was separated of course > when transported, wrote to the then Lord Lieutenant in Ireland saying that > he was really highly faithful to the English overlords and should be set > free so that he could help her and the six children escape starvation or > the poorhouse or whatever might befall them without a provider. But in > Dublin in 1798 he was given a life sentence and was thereafter sent here on > the ship "Friendship" which carried a load of political prisioners being > sent out of Ireland. > > Here David married another convict by the name of Ann Reffin, who was from > England (Leicestershire Wolds south of Nottingham). > > That's my family history in a nutshell and there is more about Ann Reffin > (my results of trying to backtrack in that direction) viewable at > http://www.geocities.com/doctorjohn72/reffin.htm > > There you can see that the town where she was baptised, Walton on the > Wolds, is very nicely preserved. > > Please send along any URLs of any websites you know about by Burns/Byrnes, > especially if of a family history or general historical flavour ... Perhaps > could make a compilation of those .. Or has somebody done that already? > > > Happy New Year, > > > > John Byrnes > > (Sydney, Australia) > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx *** Scripture to live by: A wise man's heart directs him toward the RIGHT, but the foolish man's heart driects him toward the LEFT. Ecclesiastes 10:2 Bill & Eva Mosley 3743 W. Robinson Ave. Fresno,CA 93722 559-271-2226 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

John, The records do survive in the local churches if you have any idea where to look. Only the documents held at the main Irish records Office were destroyed in the fire of 192? but slowly records in private hands that did survive are being used to reconstruct what they can. So no not everything is lost in Ireland. As for the variants in the surname one should consider BURN also which is the Scottish/ Northern English original spelling. The S being added at a later time. Rob Burns ----- Original Message ----- From: "John" <john.mail@ozemail.com.au> To: <BURNS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [BURNS] One of possibly the greater byrnes tribe is bouncing > > > G'day Susan, > > > At 16:33 30/12/04 -0500, "Rick and Susan" <rickandsusan@swva.net> > wrote: > > >Thank you for the most entertaining post I've read in a while, LOL > >Susan in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia > > > Thank you. And yes I think I am supposedly "in charge" of this list in > some way but I do not (yet) have a clue what to do. I'm fairly experienced > in running mailing lists, but my experience relates to the Yahoo ones and > various older types. > > It's just that I don't yet understand the Rootsweb ones properly and have > no experience per se of them. > > I don't even know what URL to go to for one's own list. Or is there an > URL? Can anyone tell me that? > > I'm of largely-celtic ancestry I think, and so am interested in these things. > > There are at least half a dozen diffent (clan and even spurious) origins of > the Burns/Byrnes surname. But I think everyone generally agrees that they > are at root a celtic crowd. > > Masses and masses of them emigated to Blue Ridge type places and became the > so-called "Hillbillies". There's much resemblance in early Irish-type folk > music between colonial Aus, eastern USA mountains country (Appalachia?) and > Eire itself. > > On my mother's side I also have a major German element ("Steiner" surname) > but I have not traced that beyond that fact that it came from "Germany". > > On my father's side we are a family that cannot trace (on surname side > anyway) more than 200 years of history (virtually the Aus part only) > because of the state of records in Ireland .. they managed unfortunately to > set fire to them in the final semi-successful revolt in Dublin in the early > 1900s (around WWI time). > > My family comes from David Burns (a patriot/rebel[?probably/?possibly] but > who also was in the government militia [?maybe drafted, maybe freely > enlisted - nobody knows] from which he deserted) exiled from Ireland as > political prisioner after the 1798 war of independence (in which the native > side of the Irish were rapidly crushed by vast English military superiority > .. as you probably know). His wife, from whom he was separated of course > when transported, wrote to the then Lord Lieutenant in Ireland saying that > he was really highly faithful to the English overlords and should be set > free so that he could help her and the six children escape starvation or > the poorhouse or whatever might befall them without a provider. But in > Dublin in 1798 he was given a life sentence and was thereafter sent here on > the ship "Friendship" which carried a load of political prisioners being > sent out of Ireland. > > Here David married another convict by the name of Ann Reffin, who was from > England (Leicestershire Wolds south of Nottingham). > > That's my family history in a nutshell and there is more about Ann Reffin > (my results of trying to backtrack in that direction) viewable at > http://www.geocities.com/doctorjohn72/reffin.htm > > There you can see that the town where she was baptised, Walton on the > Wolds, is very nicely preserved. > > Please send along any URLs of any websites you know about by Burns/Byrnes, > especially if of a family history or general historical flavour ... Perhaps > could make a compilation of those .. Or has somebody done that already? > > > Happy New Year, > > > > John Byrnes > > (Sydney, Australia) > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

To: The Byrnes/Burns digests at Rootsweb.com (Group mailing lists), BYRNES-D@rootsweb.com, BURNS-D@rootsweb.com G'day all, Hello Relatives (mostly very vaguely all my relatives ...) ...... Mitakuye Oyasin (and what's the Gaelic/celtic for that, eh? ... for those who speak such?), Seasons Greetings and Happy New Year to all the Byrnes/Burns, from Sydney, Australia: There a small (possibly unimportant) note I got that one of possibly the greater-byrnes tribe (Hazel@snowie48.freeserve.co.uk), or maybe someone just interested in Byrnes'es for some reason, seems to be bouncing. I'm supposed to be the administrator of this list (yeah, yeah I know!!), but quite frankly I'm often tired or sleepy, especially after big Christmas period meals, and haven't got a clue what to do; or even how to do it ... or even if I *should* even think of maybe trying to do anything at all about such random events as email bounces? Maybe it is just sent to me for noting? I'll send copy of this to the administrator which is BYRNES-admin@rootsweb.com, in the CC: but I believe that is moi also, in which case it will just come straight back to me. The subject notification mail (copy as below) advised in the diagnostics that its bounced twice already to Hazel and that it's also mail coming from "a daemon, ignored" (which is something worst than a lover spurned, no doubt) and is also a "Possible loopback problem". Not a severe loopback problem though, fortunately, or we'd we thoroughly innundated with Hazel bounces by now. That's to say, my understanding of a loopback problem is when somebody on a mailing list (which probably is most internet uses) sets up an automail-er/autoanswer-er (as you can do in MS Outlook etc.) which can be an absolute disaster for list mail if it sets up an endless loop of saying "Sorry I am out of the office" .. or similar, which keeps replying back to itself and everyone else on the list until it has generated literally thousands of email posts, if not restrained/stopped somehow. But I'm not certain. Sorry to admit it, but ... am more than a bit ... Clueless in Wombatland here, Love and best wishes , John John Byrnes Earth and Social Science Consultants PO Box 264 SUMMER HILL 2130 Australia My sub'clan news: The Burns/Byrnes family of David Burns+Ann Reffin (both convicts sent to Aus from Great Britain) is coming up for 200 years old; anyone interested for our 200th anniversary which will be in 2006 is advised that it is never too early to be working on this project, for a reunion visit to the 'family seat' of Castlereagh near Penrith (a place which is a bit west of Sydney in NSW, at foot of the Blue Mountains and besides the Nepean River) .. And would love to hear from y'all if anybody of that family reads this. If you are an Australian Byrnes but do not know your family origins please make contact as you might just possibly possibly be a descendant of this couple (although there's zillions of other Byrnes families in Aus too). 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Thank you for the most entertaining post I've read in a while, LOL Susan in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia