Just a wild suggestion from a lurker here,---if you know when and where the father died---and you know the son is elsewhere---have you checked the county records where the father died --maybe a power of attorney from the sons to collect anything due them from the fathers death? That would tell you where they were. But probably you have already considered that. Mamie ================================== From: "H & CJ Nichols" <[email protected]> > My Thomas Aubrey BURNS was born 19 May 1827 in Missouri. However, we have not been able to pin him down anywhere for sure after that. His birth date was taken from his father's Bible record and his father died in 1872 - at time we assume Thomas was still living as no entry for his death is there. I believe he may have been the Thomas that is living close to Asbury Wesley who would be a brother - in Nemeha Co ., Nebraska in 1856, but can't be sure. I do not have a marriage on him or names of any children. These Burns are very elusive!! Don't seem to want to be found!! > CJ

In response to Terrie Burns Coffee regarding dates on my Burns line: - George P Burns, b. 1803 in Ireland, d. 1861 in Fillmore, Andrew, MO - Mary Ann Lester, b. 1820 in Indiana, d. 1878 in Fillmore, Andrew, MO - John W. Burns, b. ca. 1841 Cass Co., IN (I believe John W lived out his life in Andrew, MO) - Jane Burns, b. ca. 1843 IN - Isabel A Burns, b. Sep 1845 Cass Co., IN, m. George W Nease, d. 1911 in St. Joseph, Buchanan, MO - Thomas Burns, b. ca. 1846 in IN - George P. Burns, b. ca. 1847 in IN - Richard W. Burns, b. ca. 1849 in IN - James A. Burns, b. ca. 1855 in IN - Levi Burns, b. ca. 1858 in MO - David Burns, b. ca. 1860 in MO Thanks, Nancy Elmwood Park, NJ

Nancy, Thank you for you info, was hoping Texas would show up on yours, Oh well back to the drawing board, and Thanks again Terrie Coffee ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [BURNS-L] Thomas Aubrey Burns > In response to Terrie Burns Coffee regarding dates on my Burns line: > - George P Burns, b. 1803 in Ireland, d. 1861 in Fillmore, Andrew, MO > - Mary Ann Lester, b. 1820 in Indiana, d. 1878 in Fillmore, Andrew, MO > - John W. Burns, b. ca. 1841 Cass Co., IN (I believe John W lived out his > life in Andrew, MO) > - Jane Burns, b. ca. 1843 IN > - Isabel A Burns, b. Sep 1845 Cass Co., IN, m. George W Nease, d. 1911 in St. > Joseph, Buchanan, MO > - Thomas Burns, b. ca. 1846 in IN > - George P. Burns, b. ca. 1847 in IN > - Richard W. Burns, b. ca. 1849 in IN > - James A. Burns, b. ca. 1855 in IN > - Levi Burns, b. ca. 1858 in MO > - David Burns, b. ca. 1860 in MO > > Thanks, > > Nancy > Elmwood Park, NJ > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Did you know there is a BURNS GENEALOGY DATA website? Check it out at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~darburns/burns/index.html > > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > >

CJ, Thanks for your reply about Thomas, I wish I knew that much about mine. Thanks again Terrie Coffee ----- Original Message ----- From: "H & CJ Nichols" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS-L] Thomas Aubrey Burns > My Thomas Aubrey BURNS was born 19 May 1827 in Missouri. However, we have not been able to pin him down anywhere for sure after that. His birth date was taken from his father's Bible record and his father died in 1872 - at time we assume Thomas was still living as no entry for his death is there. I believe he may have been the Thomas that is living close to Asbury Wesley who would be a brother - in Nemeha Co ., Nebraska in 1856, but can't be sure. I do not have a > marriage on him or names of any children. These Burns are very elusive!! Don't seem to want to be found!! > CJ > > alan coffee wrote: > > > I was wondering about the THOMAS AUBREY BURNS that H & CJ Nichols mentioned. My GGFather was a THOMAS BURNS from TEXAS, he married a MISSOURI 'SUE' INGRUM or INGRAM and she was Native American possibly Cherokee or Choctaw. I have no birthdates on this couple, however my GFather CLAUD BURNS was born in 1886, in TEXAS also, so I am only assuming "THOMAS" must have been born around 1840's to the 1860's. Do you have dates, spouses or children for your "THOMAS BURNS" ? > > Also to [email protected] I noticed you also mentioned a THOMAS BURNS who was the son of a GEORGE P.BURNS & MARY ANN LESTER, do you have dates on your BURNS line ? particulary THOMAS. I am sure of my Thomas's birthplace as being Texas, but have no info at all concerning where earlier ancestors were from. Would like to hear from anyone that thinks they may have a link to my BURNS". > > Terrie Burns Coffee > > > > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > > Did you know that only 7% of Rootsweb subscribers support Rootsweb? > > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > ============================== > > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: [email protected] > List Adm for BURNS-L and BURNS-D > Now with over 400 subscribers! > > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > >

i'm hanging in there! cheryl

<George P Burns and Mary Ann Lester and their children John W., Jane, Isabel A., Thomas, George P., Richard W., James A., Levi, and David in Fillmore, Andrew County, Missouri beginning about 1858. Do these names sound familiar to anyone?> I have a David E. Burns born abt 1897. According to my grandmothers birth certificate he was born in Chilcoathe Missouri. I'm not certain of the spelling for the town because I have seen it spelled different ways. I don't have much info mostly cause my grandmother always changed the story on her parents. I do know that at one point David E Burns lived in Colorado, then on to Idaho. Was a farmer in Colorado. Worked with the Railroad (at least that is what I have been led to believe). He died in Idaho about 1950. Any info/leads would be appreciated this has been an elusive hunt. Thanks Tawnya

My burns line supposedly has Native American blood lines. I'm beginning to think they were shot down here from another planet, populated and reshipped home to Mother planet!! cheryl

Join the club!!! I have felt that way for many years! Keep at it - eventually they will poke through! CJ [email protected] wrote: > My burns line supposedly has Native American blood lines. I'm beginning to > think they were shot down here from another planet, populated and reshipped > home to Mother planet!! > cheryl > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BURNS-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

My Thomas Aubrey BURNS was born 19 May 1827 in Missouri. However, we have not been able to pin him down anywhere for sure after that. His birth date was taken from his father's Bible record and his father died in 1872 - at time we assume Thomas was still living as no entry for his death is there. I believe he may have been the Thomas that is living close to Asbury Wesley who would be a brother - in Nemeha Co ., Nebraska in 1856, but can't be sure. I do not have a marriage on him or names of any children. These Burns are very elusive!! Don't seem to want to be found!! CJ alan coffee wrote: > I was wondering about the THOMAS AUBREY BURNS that H & CJ Nichols mentioned. My GGFather was a THOMAS BURNS from TEXAS, he married a MISSOURI 'SUE' INGRUM or INGRAM and she was Native American possibly Cherokee or Choctaw. I have no birthdates on this couple, however my GFather CLAUD BURNS was born in 1886, in TEXAS also, so I am only assuming "THOMAS" must have been born around 1840's to the 1860's. Do you have dates, spouses or children for your "THOMAS BURNS" ? > Also to [email protected] I noticed you also mentioned a THOMAS BURNS who was the son of a GEORGE P.BURNS & MARY ANN LESTER, do you have dates on your BURNS line ? particulary THOMAS. I am sure of my Thomas's birthplace as being Texas, but have no info at all concerning where earlier ancestors were from. Would like to hear from anyone that thinks they may have a link to my BURNS". > Terrie Burns Coffee > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Did you know that only 7% of Rootsweb subscribers support Rootsweb? > If you're not already a Rootsweb member, please join with us! > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

I was wondering about the THOMAS AUBREY BURNS that H & CJ Nichols mentioned. My GGFather was a THOMAS BURNS from TEXAS, he married a MISSOURI 'SUE' INGRUM or INGRAM and she was Native American possibly Cherokee or Choctaw. I have no birthdates on this couple, however my GFather CLAUD BURNS was born in 1886, in TEXAS also, so I am only assuming "THOMAS" must have been born around 1840's to the 1860's. Do you have dates, spouses or children for your "THOMAS BURNS" ? Also to [email protected] I noticed you also mentioned a THOMAS BURNS who was the son of a GEORGE P.BURNS & MARY ANN LESTER, do you have dates on your BURNS line ? particulary THOMAS. I am sure of my Thomas's birthplace as being Texas, but have no info at all concerning where earlier ancestors were from. Would like to hear from anyone that thinks they may have a link to my BURNS". Terrie Burns Coffee

I have some Burns in Northwest Missouri too; George P Burns and Mary Ann Lester and their children John W., Jane, Isabel A., Thomas, George P., Richard W., James A., Levi, and David in Fillmore, Andrew County, Missouri beginning about 1858. Do these names sound familiar to anyone?

ok thanks.

try www.google.com Type in the whole name, or just surname and the genealogy. When you review the results, click on cache. It will highlight the name you are looking for. This is the best search engine I have used. Yvonne

Ok,thanks Betty. I just put my james solomon burns into a search engine and it gave me this: FTM volume 10 tree#1265. I'm stuck like chuck cause I don't have any Family treemaker CD's! You might try a search engine and see if it brings him up. cheryl

My Charles Burns married Nancy Sampson in 1834 in Clay County, Missouri. CJ Betty Weaver wrote: > I am looking for a C.G. Burns who married Naomi about 1832.Their son > Summerville Burns was born in 1847 in Howell, Missouri. Thought I would > write you on the hunch that C.G. could be Charles. Would appreciate hearing > from you if you think we connect. Thank you, Betty > -----Original Message----- > From: H & CJ Nichols <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:18 AM > Subject: [BURNS-L] Northwest Missouri > > >I am looking for anyone connected with the following individuals that > >settled in Northwest Missouri from pre 1830's into the 1840's. > >Particularly Clay, Daviess, and Gentry counties. Benjamin Burns, Isaac > >Burns, Jeremiah Burns, Charles Burns, (William Burns), James Burns, > >Asbury Burns, Thomas Aubrey Burns. These all tie together. I have > >information that I would be willing to share and am looking for more! > >Thanks. > >CJ > > > > > >==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > > Aren't you glad you're a supporter of Rootsweb? > > Don't we wish everyone could be one too! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > >============================== > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > BURNS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: BURNS > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

There may be a simple answer to the Burns mystery In my research, back to 1833, I found the original manuscripts, deeds, etc. all said Byrns. It seems, in my family anyway; that they all changed to the common Burns around 1899. Respectfully Crys The Tears/Dreamwalker~Lakota <><><><> "A Nation is not conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground.Then it is done, no matter how brave its warriors or how strong its weapons." Cheyenne <><><><> Support the Oyate http://members.tripod.com/GrassRootsOyate/ <><><><> Just two clicks feeds the worlds children every day....how can you not? http://www.thehungersite.com/ <><><><> The Standing_Ones give us the air we breath....help save them today http://rainforest.care2.com/ <><><><> Vanishing Prayer....see the video then help the Dineh Do what YOUR Heart tells you to http://www.freespeech.org/senaa/ <><><><> "To hear the Eagle cry circling overhead Remember to be as thankful for the struggle as for the dream" Crys The Tears

Betty, So far, looks like an alien ship dumped James Solomon Burns off in Red Star Madison CO,Arkansas (along with wife Rebecca Lewis), they had several children there and then he died in Oklahoma year of 1948. any help w/this bunch would be greatly appreciated! cheryl

Oh Lordy Lordy! WELL, does anyone have any of the family names mentioned, especially Chester, Estel and Sterling? Those are definitely not ordinary common names! Thanks CJ for replying! I appreciate it. Cheryl

CJ: Where in middle TN did these Burnses come from? I have a "mysterious" John Burns (my GGGF)who appeared more or less from "nowhere" about that date of 1804 into Bedford County, TN. Every time we decide we have found his line, some flaw in our theory shows up and nullifies the whole thing. His wife was Margaret Wilson and they married there in Bedford County in 1811. John was born in 1788 and Margaret was born in 1796. The Wilsons came from Mecklenburg County, NC but Margaret's father James Wilson moved his family to Lincoln County, GA a short time after the Revolution so that's where Margaret was born. We have theorized for a long time that our John came to Bedford County, TN with the Wilsons but have no proof. We have another"theory" that John's father was named James. We have absolutely no information as to John's siblings, etc so we're willing to listen to information on any line that passed thru middle TN. Our John Burns left Bedford County about 1835 and went to Tippah County, MS, stayed just a couple or so years and went on to Polk County. MO where he settled his family in 1837.A lot of his descendants still live in that area of southwest MO, so we have plenty of information on the family after 1837 but have been hung up on earlier dates for a long time. Where did your Burnses come from in Middle TN? Boice Burns Houston, TX H & CJ Nichols wrote: > Thank you for answering my posting. I don't have enough information to say > whether he might connect or not - however - I just heard from someone else that > does connect and he says that there was a James in our line that went to middle > Tennessee in 1804 and lived there until 1831 and went on to Illinois.. However, > he had a son James and I don't know where he went. There were other brothers to > the older James and they named their kids James too!. He and my Jeremiah were > two of 12 sons and one daughter! I don't envy your trying to figure this one! > It took us 30 years to connect my John Burns born in 1821 to this family! > CJ > > [email protected] wrote: > > > CJ, > > I don't know where My greatgrandfather James Burns came from. I know he > > settled in Arkansas around the late 1890's . He also named one of his sons > > Charles. His children names were : Charles, chester, Garrett, Estel, Sterling > > ,his daughters names were Velma, Mamie,Florence > > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BURNS-L possible. > > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > ============================== > > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Need list assistance? Please contact: [email protected] > List Adm for BURNS-L and BURNS-D > Now with over 400 subscribers! > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

I've got these BURNS Men listed on land records,side by side or so records seem to show. By chance , these fellows could be brothers, one is my greatgrandfather. Does anyone have all these names in same family chart? James,Calvin, George, John Names I might have that Greatgrandfather passed to 4 of his 5 sons-the 5th son was named Estel. thanks, cheryl