Ellen, Sorry to have taken so long to reply. My John was born in 1780, which would sugest that his father, (Maybe William?) would have been born around 1757 or prior to that, I am uncertain if John had any brothers or sisters, or if so , they were older or younger. If they were older, his father would have to have been born earlier than 1757. There was about seven men named John Burns in Bucks county Pa in 1800. A cousin of mine was there and went through everything she could find and was unable to determine which one was ours. Schuylkill is a seperate county from Bucks county. It is to the west of Bucks county. My John however had a son born in New Philadelphia, Schuylkill county in 1826, Edward Thompson Burns. I have traced him out and have all but a place of death and burial. I even have a date of death but just can't find out where. If we have a connection here it is going to take some digging to find it I think. As for the Burns that moved to N.Y. State, they were in Ontario county, and I have only the name of the father, and two sons. The father and one son died there and another in Michigan. The only connection to the Buffalo area thet I have ever found was Edward Thompson had a daughter who was living there in the 1880's, probably going to school, and she ended up in Ohio. ---------- >From: "Ellen Hooven" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [BURNS-L] William Burns ??? >Date: Sun, Jul 9, 2000, 3:54 PM > > Hello to you John Burns, > I do not know if we have communicared before BUT; I have a very poor copy > of a will of someone who I believe to be my great great grandfather. His > name was Patrick Burns. He immigrated from Belfast Ireland sometime in the > early 1800s. > I have immigration papers from Pottsville, Skuylkill Co that say he was age > 25 in the year 1848 ( but I have no clue how long this man was there before > he took out those papers) > > In that will he names a son Michael( that is the name of my great > gandfather) he also names a daughter Mary Ann, a wife Ann AND a nephew John. > Further I have a copy of the marriage papers of Michael Burns and Ellen > Connelly, my great grandparents. They came from The Civil war > rchives( Michaels pension papers) > The folks who witnessed the marriage of Ellen &Michael were Mary Carroll and > WILLIAM Burns soooooo! I have always wondered if William was the father of > John, and if William were the brother of Patrick. > > Last week I sent "group sheets", copies of the marriage cert. ,Civil war > records and a check to a professional genealogist in Pa. She is going to see > whatever she can find about Michael, maybe I can learn more about the > family. She said she expected that I would get info in about 6 weeks. > I think what is now Schuylkill used to be Bucks Co. Do you have any > knowledge of that? > We live in Buffalo NY and I am fairly new to the computer so I am not too > good at this. Any ideas > I have all kinds of records on the children of Michael and Ellen. I will > gladly share whatever I have or get with you if our folks turn out to be a > match. > I hope to hear from you. Blessings, Ellen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John and Sue Burns" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:55 PM > Subject: [BURNS-L] William Burns ??? > > >> Hello list, >> Sorry to have made my subject matter so vague, this is simply a wild shot, >> but I have to try. >> My g-g-g-g-grandfather was John Burns, born 1780, place unknown. He was >> living in Bucks County, Pa. around 1808 until at least 1813. His wife was >> Elizabeth, last name unknown. There first son was named William, and it is >> my hope that Johns' father was also named William, however this is only a >> guess. I have no idea where John was born, maybe Bucks County, maybe not. >> Anyway, if anyone has a William Burns in there records with a son named > John >> who may have been in Bucks County around the 1810 time era, I would >> appreciate hearing from you. Also there was a Jesse Burns in Bucks County > at >> the same time, and they may have been related in some manner. Jesse took > his >> family into N.Y. State shortly after this time and John took his into >> Crawford County, Pa. The two lines appear to have met again in McKean >> County, Pa. around 1890, when my g-g-grandfather resided with an Andrew >> Burns who had came from the N.Y. area Jesse had taken his family to. >> >> Thank You for your time, >> Like I said before, it's only a shot in the dark but I had to try. >> >> John Burns >> >> >> ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== >> Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BURNS-L possible. >> RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 >> http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >> >> >> ============================== >> Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. >> RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. >> http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >> > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Did you know there is a BURNS GENEALOGY DATA website? 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Seeking information on THOMAS BURNS, birthdate about 1770, married to ADA DAY, and father of TIMOTHY WILLIAM BURNS who was born in New York, United States about 1811, died in Hamilton, Ontario in 1886. Timothy had two brothers, MATHEW BURNS and EDWARD BURNS. Thomas was born in United States or Scotland, married to ADA DAY. Timothy married to AGNES DRUMMOND. Anyone doing research on New York Burns families, is there any line related? HELP! L. Ferguson at [email protected]

I ordered these two birth records from the GRO in Scotland, but neither of them are the ones I'm looking for. Hope this helps somebody else: James Burns - born July 19 1863 at 33 Albert Street in Govan Lanarkshire Parents: William Adamson Burns (Joiner journeyman) & Martha Burns (m.s. Storie) Date and place of parents marriage: September 12 1862 Govan Lanarkshire James Burns - born July 24th 1863 at Clydebrae Cottage in Govan Parents: James Burns (Shipwrigth journeyman) & Martha Burns (m.s. Donaldson) Date and place of parents marriage: December 31 1862 Govan Lanarkshire

One more thing John, If you send me names and dates of the Burns guys who moved to NY. I will look in the City directories the next time I go up to the LDS library. They may have moved to Buffalo. After all we are well known for our Buffalo Winter's they may have been doing penance for something. Blessings, Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John and Sue Burns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: [BURNS-L] William Burns ??? > Hello list, > Sorry to have made my subject matter so vague, this is simply a wild shot, > but I have to try. > My g-g-g-g-grandfather was John Burns, born 1780, place unknown. He was > living in Bucks County, Pa. around 1808 until at least 1813. His wife was > Elizabeth, last name unknown. There first son was named William, and it is > my hope that Johns' father was also named William, however this is only a > guess. I have no idea where John was born, maybe Bucks County, maybe not. > Anyway, if anyone has a William Burns in there records with a son named John > who may have been in Bucks County around the 1810 time era, I would > appreciate hearing from you. Also there was a Jesse Burns in Bucks County at > the same time, and they may have been related in some manner. Jesse took his > family into N.Y. State shortly after this time and John took his into > Crawford County, Pa. The two lines appear to have met again in McKean > County, Pa. around 1890, when my g-g-grandfather resided with an Andrew > Burns who had came from the N.Y. area Jesse had taken his family to. > > Thank You for your time, > Like I said before, it's only a shot in the dark but I had to try. > > John Burns > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BURNS-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hello to you John Burns, I do not know if we have communicared before BUT; I have a very poor copy of a will of someone who I believe to be my great great grandfather. His name was Patrick Burns. He immigrated from Belfast Ireland sometime in the early 1800s. I have immigration papers from Pottsville, Skuylkill Co that say he was age 25 in the year 1848 ( but I have no clue how long this man was there before he took out those papers) In that will he names a son Michael( that is the name of my great gandfather) he also names a daughter Mary Ann, a wife Ann AND a nephew John. Further I have a copy of the marriage papers of Michael Burns and Ellen Connelly, my great grandparents. They came from The Civil war rchives( Michaels pension papers) The folks who witnessed the marriage of Ellen &Michael were Mary Carroll and WILLIAM Burns soooooo! I have always wondered if William was the father of John, and if William were the brother of Patrick. Last week I sent "group sheets", copies of the marriage cert. ,Civil war records and a check to a professional genealogist in Pa. She is going to see whatever she can find about Michael, maybe I can learn more about the family. She said she expected that I would get info in about 6 weeks. I think what is now Schuylkill used to be Bucks Co. Do you have any knowledge of that? We live in Buffalo NY and I am fairly new to the computer so I am not too good at this. Any ideas I have all kinds of records on the children of Michael and Ellen. I will gladly share whatever I have or get with you if our folks turn out to be a match. I hope to hear from you. Blessings, Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John and Sue Burns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: [BURNS-L] William Burns ??? > Hello list, > Sorry to have made my subject matter so vague, this is simply a wild shot, > but I have to try. > My g-g-g-g-grandfather was John Burns, born 1780, place unknown. He was > living in Bucks County, Pa. around 1808 until at least 1813. His wife was > Elizabeth, last name unknown. There first son was named William, and it is > my hope that Johns' father was also named William, however this is only a > guess. I have no idea where John was born, maybe Bucks County, maybe not. > Anyway, if anyone has a William Burns in there records with a son named John > who may have been in Bucks County around the 1810 time era, I would > appreciate hearing from you. Also there was a Jesse Burns in Bucks County at > the same time, and they may have been related in some manner. Jesse took his > family into N.Y. State shortly after this time and John took his into > Crawford County, Pa. The two lines appear to have met again in McKean > County, Pa. around 1890, when my g-g-grandfather resided with an Andrew > Burns who had came from the N.Y. area Jesse had taken his family to. > > Thank You for your time, > Like I said before, it's only a shot in the dark but I had to try. > > John Burns > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Your contributions to RootsWeb helps make BURNS-L possible. > RootsWeb Gen. Data Coop. Box 6798 Frazier Park, CA 93222 > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > ============================== > Free Web space. ANY amount. ANY subject. > RootsWeb's Freepages put you in touch with millions. > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Hello list, Sorry to have made my subject matter so vague, this is simply a wild shot, but I have to try. My g-g-g-g-grandfather was John Burns, born 1780, place unknown. He was living in Bucks County, Pa. around 1808 until at least 1813. His wife was Elizabeth, last name unknown. There first son was named William, and it is my hope that Johns' father was also named William, however this is only a guess. I have no idea where John was born, maybe Bucks County, maybe not. Anyway, if anyone has a William Burns in there records with a son named John who may have been in Bucks County around the 1810 time era, I would appreciate hearing from you. Also there was a Jesse Burns in Bucks County at the same time, and they may have been related in some manner. Jesse took his family into N.Y. State shortly after this time and John took his into Crawford County, Pa. The two lines appear to have met again in McKean County, Pa. around 1890, when my g-g-grandfather resided with an Andrew Burns who had came from the N.Y. area Jesse had taken his family to. Thank You for your time, Like I said before, it's only a shot in the dark but I had to try. John Burns

Searching for William Burns Sr, who married Angela Williams. He was b. 1756 Halifax CO,va. d. 1845 Clay-Owsley CO,ky. Searching for info. on Angela Williams... thanks, cheryl

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I have been mostly a lurker on this site since my William Burns of Savannah does not appear to be on anybody else's trees. But I would really appreciate, and so would everyone else, that when you write to the list you identify - in the SUBJECT - by name and location of your request. It would save each of us alot of time reading through "Closed Mouth", "Re: Closed Mouth", "Re: BURNS-D Digest V00 #140" Subject Lines, hoping against hope that this one will finally address MY William of Savannah... While I am on my soap box, PLEASE PLEASE don't copy the whole Digest in your response. Please highlight only the items to which you wish to respond. Thank you all, Dave Ballengee still looking for ANYthing on William Burns - born abt. 1813 in Scotland, 2nd wife Elizabeth Meldrim of Savannah, m. 10/29/1849, Savannah, moved to Eatonton, Putnam Co., GA...

Good Morning Burns listers. I am also trying to track my Burns family.What I have: Charles S Burns b.?m.Mary Susan Hildreth ? Children: John ? b.? Walter Steve b.? m. Mildred Jane Cole Children Walter,jr, Helen N, WaltonK.Clence, Mildred, Weldon/Wildon Joe Infant died I am looking for info on John who married a Hester Stiddem? Don't know if the Hester is first or last name. John's son Levi b.12-29-1805 in Trumbull co. Oh would be mygrgrandfather. If any of these names connect please contact me privately @ [email protected] Thanks in advance, Jackie

My Burns' were from Webster County, WV. Thanks to the internet I found a "cousin" and he helped fill me in on the ancestors (as much as is probably known out there on my line) but what I'm trying to track down are my first cousins!!!! Michelle

my burns family lived in cook county ,illinoise.but it could be some were in other places. thanks janet

Where did they live? My wife's side was Bunrs and the lived in Iowa, Missouri and I think Ohio. [email protected] Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 05:41 Subject: Re: [BURNS-L] Closed mouths > I can agree with you about this. My aunts and uncles (and father) are all > dead. I have one living uncle and he claims to know nothing about the family > nor does he really care to know much. They were a very quiet (although hard > drinking and smoking) bunch and never expressed much affection. What's up > with these folks? I love being a Burns but I don't know much about them!! > > Michelle Burns Tedder > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > Did you know there is a BURNS GENEALOGY DATA website? Check it out at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~darburns/burns/index.html > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >

I can agree with you about this. My aunts and uncles (and father) are all dead. I have one living uncle and he claims to know nothing about the family nor does he really care to know much. They were a very quiet (although hard drinking and smoking) bunch and never expressed much affection. What's up with these folks? I love being a Burns but I don't know much about them!! Michelle Burns Tedder

Hello list, I have recently received some new information on my GGG grandfather William Burns. He lived in Lancaster Co, Pa. but on census information on his children they list William as being born in Maryland. William m. Rebecca Howett in Lanc. Pa. She was b. in 1809. Does any one on the list have a William Burns b. ca. 1810 in Maryland moving to Pa? Thank you so much for your time. Yvonne

Each one of you is adding a portion to what I have heard about our Burns family. Such as....one being killed on the way to CA......and being somehow related to Jesse James.....though who isn't in genealogy....until we really get to checking? Delleen Starner [email protected]

Hi Lorene. Here is a 'descendency report for a couple of generations. I know your feeling about 'checking on anything'. Following this short report is some additional information from my web site. Good Luck. Delleen ****************************************************** Generation No. 3 3. SOPHIA ANN3 KNOX (MOSES B.2, WILLIAM1) was born Abt. 1829 in Berwick, ME, and died Abt. 1870 in Calpella, CA. She married JOHN BURNS Abt. 1850 in Mercer Co., IL, son of JOSEPH BURNS and NANCY RIGGS. He was born Abt. 1821 in Springfield, KY, and died Abt. 1898 in Camp Badger, CA. More About SOPHIA ANN KNOX: Burial: Abt. 1870, Old Potter Valley Cemetary/Mendocino, CA More About JOHN BURNS: Burial: Abt. 1898, CA Children of SOPHIA KNOX and JOHN BURNS are: 4. i. EUCEBA FRANCESCA4 BURNS, b. October 09, 1850, Millersburg, Mercer Co., IL; d. February 10, 1909, Kelso, Cowlitz Co., WA. ii. GEORGE HENRY BURNS, b. Abt. 1854, Calpella, CA; d. Unknown, Unknown. Notes for GEORGE HENRY BURNS: It was said that he died in a Mental Hospital from Retardation. More About GEORGE HENRY BURNS: Burial: Unknown, Unknown iii. CHARLES PRESTON BURNS, b. 1855, Calpella, CA; d. 1940, Redding, CA. Notes for CHARLES PRESTON BURNS: He never married and was an Indian fighter for many years. More About CHARLES PRESTON BURNS: Burial: 1940, Redding Cemetary/Redding, CA iv. DORA BURNS, b. Abt. 1861, Calpella, CA; d. Unknown, Oregon City, Clackamas Co., OR. More About DORA BURNS: Burial: Unknown, Unknown v. SARAH ANN BURNS, b. September 21, 1864, Calpella, CA; d. January 01, 1933, Tulare, CA. More About SARAH ANN BURNS: Burial: 1933, Vandalia Cemetary/Porterville, CA Cause of Death: Cancer of the stomach. vi. ABRAHAM LINCOLN BURNS, b. July 25, 1867, Calpella, CA; d. January 16, 1901, Clear Creek, CA. More About ABRAHAM LINCOLN BURNS: Burial: 1901, Redding Cemetary/Redding, CA Cause of Death: Pneumonia vii. LUCY BURNS, b. September 01, 1868, Calpella, CA; d. January 29, 1943, Hanford, CA. More About LUCY BURNS: Burial: 1943, Hanford, CA Generation No. 4 4. EUCEBA FRANCESCA4 BURNS (SOPHIA ANN3 KNOX, MOSES B.2, WILLIAM1) was born October 09, 1850 in Millersburg, Mercer Co., IL, and died February 10, 1909 in Kelso, Cowlitz Co., WA. She married ELIAS MACLIN HOWARD, SR. June 01, 1865 in Calpella, CA, son of JOHN HOWARD and UNKNOWN WIFE. He was born February 11, 1828 in Springfield, IL, and died September 22, 1914 in Chehalis, Lewis Co., WA. *********************************************** It is not documented but is reasonable that the Michael Burns(Byrns) married to Priscilla (Unknown) were the parents of John Burns (Byrns) b ca 1760/65 in MD d ca 1840 Washington County, KY. John's first wife's name is unknown at this point. His second wife was Elizabeth (hard to make out the last name....which begins with a 'C' It is to his first wife that the following children were born: Joseph C. Burns (Our ancestor b 1784/1794 in MD. William Burns b ca 1790 d 1855 Springfield, WA, KY who married Frances FOWLER on 30 May 1811 Catherine Burns b ca 1794 in MD who married James HICKES on 23 Oct 1810 John Burns Jr.b ca 1795 Eleanor Burns b ca 1796 in KY married to Benjamin TAYLOR in 1815 Elizabeth Burns b ca 1799 in MD married to John AVERY on 29 Sep 1819 in Springfield, WA, KY Mary A Burns b ca 1803 in Springfield, WA, KY d 25 Jul 1869 and is buried in St Rose Cemetery, Wash.Co., KY married to George Wilford GOTTEE on 11 Aug 1818 WA.Co., KY Margaret Burns b 1804 in Springfield, WA, KY married to Wesley AWBERRY on 17 Apr 1822 in Springfield, KY James B Burns b 1809 Springfield, Wa., KY married to Maria MCLAIN 1840 in Wa.Co., KY Matilda Frances Burns b ca 1810 Springfield, Wa., KY d 11 Nov 1837 and is buried at St Rose Cemetery, Wa.Co., KY married to William EATON on 28 Aug 1833 in Wa.Co., KY

Lorene & C.J.: My great, great uncle told me a number of old stories before he died. One of them was that he had heard rumors of legends in the Burns Family that my 4th great grandfather John Burns had a brother named Jesse and even a brother named James (I have no documentatio for such a legend). Therefore, I read your comments with some interest, Lorene. John Burns was said to have emigrated from "somewhere out east" (Penn., Tenn., Vir?) to Louisiana with his wife, Sarah McWilliams (b. in Ireland in 1780). They married somewhere around 1800, so the time frame seems to match up with the family that you mention, Lorene. John Burns was supposedly murdered and his widow married a man named Gabriel Beasley. I have found mention that John's son, Willoughby, was sent to Tennessee for some schooling (he was Presbyterian, I believe), so they may have had family ties up there. It's all very mysterious. I have found out one thing: the Burns' seemed to be terribly closed-mouth about their ancestry. The book that you mention sounds very interesting to me. I would love to know when it comes out. Otherwise, if I've said anything that sounds familiar, please let me know. Basil David Burns

Lorene, Ooh.......I don't know. I can see some possibilities but nothing in what I have at this point pinpoints anything. Let me tell you what my situation is....I am just learning about the Burns family that I connect to when they were in KY and VA. There was a David Burns of Virginia that had 12 sons and one daughter!! Those sons branched out and went everywhere! There is a book coming out that will be over 700 pages long about this family - I don't know whether they have information on all of the sons. Their names were Samuel, David, Robert, Thomas, William, James, Isaac, Peter, Richard, Jeremiah, John, Jesse and I don't know the daughter's name. I descend from Jeremiah who went to KY from VA. There was one of Jeremiah's sons that went to central Tennessee and spread out from there. A little bit closer - in Missouri - my ggg grandfather was Benjamin Burns who originally settled in Clay County - he was there for the 1830 census, but in Missouri before 1821 - over towards Howard County. We only have one documented -for sure- son and that was Isaac. We believe he had sons Jeremiah M. Burns and Benjamin (Jr.) but could have had other sons that we have no knowledge of!! Benjamin married in 1800. I also know that some of his 1/2 brothers came to Missouri to the same area he was in, but who knows others - or their children - could have gone to other places in Missouri. On thing is for SURE! That is, that the Burns were very elusive and DIFFICULT to trace!! At least this line has been. I lucked out after years of frustration in finding the key that opened the door for me.....didn't think it was ever going to happen, and then it did! When I get a copy of this book I will have more information and just maybe?? One never knows! CJ [email protected] wrote: > CJ > > My gggGrandfather settled in Southwest Mo. in 1837. There was a Joseph R. > Burns that came with him. I don't have any other information on him except > he stated he came to TN as a young lad. He was born Nov 4, 1788. Does he > tie into your lines in any way. He refered to a older brother Jimmy that was > killed on the way to CA in 1850. > > Please let me know. > > Lorene Burns, Noennig > [email protected] > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > BURNS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: BURNS > > ============================== > The RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Tens of millions of individuals... and counting. > http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/

Hello Dellene, Your James and Joseph Burns that went to CA in 1853. Do you know when they were born? I am curious. My gggGrandfather John Burns (born Nov. 4, 1788), had a son born 1828 and a bro James that went to CA around 1850. There was another son that went with them Thomas Lafayette Zachuees Burns, my gggUncle. James was killed on the way to CA by Indians and I have never heard another reference to Joseph M. They may not be connected, but at this time and place I will check out anything that might be a clue. Lorene Burns, Noennig [email protected]