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    1. [BURNS-L] GILBERT BURNS, brother of Robert
    2. Bobbi Lewis
    3. Lineage and decendents of Gilbert Burns, brother of Robert, the Poet. Gilbert Burns was born on Setember 28 1760 in Alloway, Ayr, Aryshie:Scotland, the son of Willian Burness and Agnes Broun.(Brown) He married Jean Breckenridge., the daughter of James Breckenridge on June 21, 1791 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Scotland. He died on November 8 1827 in Grant's Breas, Haddington Scotland at age 67 He was younger than Robert Burns by 18 months. Jean Breckenridge was born on Feb, 6 1764 She died on Sept. 30 1841, age 77. Children of Gilbert and Jean were: 1. William Burns, born May 15 1792, in Mauchline, Ayrshire Scotland, married Jane Callanan. 2. James Burns was born on April 14, 1794, Mauchline Ayrshire Scotland. He died on June 22 1847 in Erskine, Renfrew, Scotland, age 53. 3. Rev, Thomas Burns, born on April 10, 1796 in Mauchline, Scotland, married Clementia Grant. 4. Robert Burns was born on Nov. 22 1797 in Mauchline Scotland. He died circa 1839 in South America. 5. Janet Burns, born May 23 1799 in Machline Scotland. She died on Oct. 30, 1818, age 17. 6. Agnes Burns, born Nov. 16, 1800 in Haddington Scotland. She died on Sept. 14, 1815, age 14. 7. Rev. John Burns, born July 6 1802 in Haddington, Scotland. He died on Feb. 26 1827 in Edinburgh, Scotland,age 24. of Typhus Fever, just after being licensed for the ministry. 8. Gilbert Burns, born Dec. 24, 1803 in Haddington, Scotland. married Jemima Georgiana Ferrier. 9. Anne Burns, born Sept 12, 1805 in Haddington, Scotland. She died on Aug 2 1887, age 81. 10. Jean Burns, born June 8 1807 in Haddington Scotland. She died on Jan. 4, 1827, age 19. 11. Isabella Burns, born on May 17,1809 in Haddington Scotland, Died on July 3 1815. age 6. Gilbert Burns worked on the estate of Lady Blantyre and worked for her nearly 25 years. in Haddington.. From--Life of Burns, Page 303 ---------------------------------------------- As for the person who called Robert Burns an old Rake, speak ill of your own ancestors, NOT MINE. I am from the illigitimate side of the family and I am not a bit ashamed of it. Give me a name of some of your ancestors and I bet I could dig up something juicy on yours too. How can you talk so, about a dead man and why would you even want too. Roberta Lewis (by the way, named after the poet and darn proud of it.)

    11/01/2000 02:57:02
    1. None
    2. Bobbi Lewis
    3. Lineage and decendents of Gilbert Burns, brother of Robert, the Poet. Gilbert Burns was born on Setember 28 1760 in Alloway, Ayr, Aryshie:Scotland, the son of Willian Burness and Agnes Broun.(Brown) He married Jean Breckenridge., the daughter of James Breckenridge on June 21, 1791 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire Scotland. He died on November 8 1827 in Grant's Breas, Haddington Scotland at age 67 He was younger than Robert Burns by 18 months. Jean Breckenridge was born on Feb, 6 1764 She died on Sept. 30 1841, age 77. Children of Gilbert and Jean were: 1. William Burns, born May 15 1792, in Mauchline, Ayrshire Scotland, married Jane Callanan. 2. James Burns was born on April 14, 1794, Mauchline Ayrshire Scotland. He died on June 22 1847 in Erskine, Renfrew, Scotland, age 53. 3. Rev, Thomas Burns, born on April 10, 1796 in Mauchline, Scotland, married Clementia Grant. 4. Robert Burns was born on Nov. 22 1797 in Mauchline Scotland. He died circa 1839 in South America. 5. Janet Burns, born May 23 1799 in Machline Scotland. She died on Oct. 30, 1818, age 17. 6. Agnes Burns, born Nov. 16, 1800 in Haddington Scotland. She died on Sept. 14, 1815, age 14. 7. Rev. John Burns, born July 6 1802 in Haddington, Scotland. He died on Feb. 26 1827 in Edinburgh, Scotland,age 24. of Typhus Fever, just after being licensed for the ministry. 8. Gilbert Burns, born Dec. 24, 1803 in Haddington, Scotland. married Jemima Georgiana Ferrier. 9. Anne Burns, born Sept 12, 1805 in Haddington, Scotland. She died on Aug 2 1887, age 81. 10. Jean Burns, born June 8 1807 in Haddington Scotland. She died on Jan. 4, 1827, age 19. 11. Isabella Burns, born on May 17,1809 in Haddington Scotland, Died on July 3 1815. age 6. Gilbert Burns worked on the estate of Lady Blantyre and worked for her nearly 25 years. in Haddington.. From--Life of Burns, Page 303 ---------------------------------------------------------- As for the person who called Robert Burns an old Rake, speak ill of your own ancestors, NOT MINE. I am from the illigitimate side of the family and I am not a bit ashamed of it. Give me a name of some of your ancestors and I bet I could dig up something juicy on yours too. How can you talk so, about a dead man and why would you even want too. Roberta Lewis (by the way, named after the poet and darn proud of it.)

    10/31/2000 03:32:50
    1. [BURNS-L] Robert Burns Family Tree
    2. John Burness
    3. I have recently updated and relocated my website on Robert Burns family tree. It includes 262 descendants and over 2,000 other relatives. Robert Burns Family History http://www3.sympatico.ca/jburness/burns.html Descendants of Robert Burns http://www3.sympatico.ca/jburness/burns001.htm Burness One-Name Study http://www3.sympatico.ca/jburness/burness.html Regards, John Burness

    10/31/2000 03:01:56
    1. Re: [BURNS-L]
    2. alangail
    3. hi there I do know that poet robert burns brother ended up in new zealand hes a reverend IM sopposed to be related to him ????? any body in new zealand help?

    10/31/2000 02:50:02
    1. Re: [BURNS-L]
    2. Cec Oliver
    3. My grandmother was Isabella Burns, of Eglish, Dungannon, County Tyrone, Northern Ireland and claimed that her grandfather was Bobbie Burns uncle. Also claimed that he left Scotland because Robbie was a disgrace to the family. My mother was outraged when we came to Canada and she heard about the Robbie Burns day celebrationsk. "He is nothing but an old rake". Who knows we may be related. ----- Original Message ----- From: "alangail" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [BURNS-L] > hi there > I do know that poet robert burns brother ended up in new zealand hes a > reverend > IM sopposed to be related to him ????? > any body in new zealand help? > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > BURNS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: BURNS > > > ============================== > Search over 600 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/search

    10/31/2000 08:25:37
    1. [BURNS-L] Thomas Burns
    2. Hello, I am trying to locate info on the following Burns family. Thomas Burns married Mary ? in either Australia, but most likely Ireland. They had the following children... John Burns wnet to Boston Mass USA Richard Burns went to Sydney Australia Catherine Burns went to Mass USA This is where these children were living in the early 1930's and they were most likely 70-80 years of age at this time. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jean

    10/30/2000 09:54:50
    1. [BURNS-L] Burns surname
    2. I am trying to locate families of the Following Burns.... These people would possibly be born in the 1850's or so time period. John Burns of Boston Mass USA Catherine Burns of Mass USA Richard Burns of Sydney Australia. This is where these people were in the early 1930's. They were the children of Thomas Burns and Mary? Thank you if anyone can help.

    10/30/2000 07:04:40
    1. [BURNS-L] Burns,Lawrence
    2. Hi, I am looking for a Lawrence Burns. He was married to Margaret Manion c. 1850's in Conn.

    10/30/2000 12:20:28
    1. [BURNS-L] FW: Burns Family.
    2. Alfred Fox
    3. ---------- From: Alfred Fox <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:29:16 +0200 To: <[email protected]> Subject: Burns Family. Hello all, I'm researching the Burns name in the UK, and Australia, grandmothers two brothers that emigrated to Australia in 1888, and through to 1893/4. The names are Hugh Fraser Burns, born, 22 March 1867. Left North Yorkshire for London to sail on the 5th April 1887, arrived in Brisbane, Australia, on the 1st June 1887, on the boat, Waroonga. The second brother was, John Lindsay Burns, born 1877, emigrated in 1893/4, in addition his sister Elizabeth Burns, born, 1868, also emigrated with John. Its the two brothers I'm interested in. Hugh Fraser Burns, had two children, Hugh Fraser Burns, born 30 December. 1891. Second child William John Burns, born 6th December, 1893. Mothers name unknown. John Lindsay Burns, married Francis Louisa Cook, 30 January,1907. Children, Marjorie Mary Burns, born 29 November,1908. Joyce Ann Burns, born 30 December. 1909. This is all the information I have at this moment, if you recognised the names above please contact me by e-mail. All information will be very welcome. Thank you. Ever grateful. Alfie.

    10/29/2000 06:24:14
    1. [BURNS-L] BURNS / Canada
    2. Janet
    3. Does anyone have information on this BURNS family from Maitland, NS? William BURNS bd. ~1814 m. Elizabeth ? and had the following children | Walter BURNS | bd. ~ 1853 | Margaret BURNS | bd. ~ 1854 | Eleanor BURNS | bd. ~ 1857 | Kate BURNS | bd. ~ 1859 | Jessie BURNS | bd. ~ 1861 | Jacob BURNS | bd. ~ 1864 | Daniel BURNS | bd. ~ 1869 Thanks, Janet

    10/29/2000 01:21:53
    1. [BURNS-L] Robert Burns
    2. Karen Fergus
    3. Seems like all Burns people want to be related to the poet. One of my old poetry books states that his father's name was William Burness. I have Burns on both maternal and paternal lines. on my maternal line, Dennis/David Burns was born in Ohio in 1830, parents from "England" according to the 1850 census. Don't have anything else on him other than that he married Nancy Turner in Ohio and had 4 daughters. My paternal line must have a Burns somewhere as there is a William Chalmers Burns Fergus, brother of my 3g-grandfather (no birth date, but parents Alexander Fergus and Elizabeth Cleland married 1816 in Kilsyth, Scotland outside of Glasgow). If anyone has any links, I be glad to hear from them. Thanks, Karen Fergus [email protected] If anyone

    10/27/2000 12:07:22
    1. Re: [BURNS-L] Re: BURNS-D Digest V00 #182
    2. Bobbi, thank you for posting this, it was quite interesting. Going by all the illegitimate children, perhaps all our grandmothers were right. We are all related to him. lol Thanks again, Yvonne

    10/27/2000 12:33:36
    1. Re: [BURNS-L] Re: BURNS-D Digest V00 #182
    2. Bobbi Lewis
    3. Hi Listers Here is a small contribution. I have a very old book on Robert Burns, handed down, generation to generation from Jean Armour Burns in our family. This is the family of Robert Burns: Robert Burns, s/o William Burness and Agnes Broun was born on Jan.25, 1759 at Ayrshire--Died at Dumfries , July 21, 1796---age 37. Jean Armour d/o James Armour was born on Feb 24,1765 at Mauchline---Died at Dumfries, March 25, 1834.---age 69. Robert and Jean were married in Mauchline Scotland on Aug. 5 1788 Their Children: 1. Robert 2. Jean Twins, they were born on Sept 3, 1786. Jean died in infancy. 3. Girl 4. Girl twins, unnamed, both died with in days of their birth in 1788-------Both these sets of twins were born before their parents wre married. 5. Francis Wallace- born on Aug. 18, 1789-died on July 9, 1803, age 14. 6. William Nicole-born on April 9, 1791. 7. Elizbeth Riddel-born on Nov.21,1792---died in Sept of 1795, age 2 years and 10 months 8. James Glencarin--born Aug 12, 1894--died 1865 9 Maxwell- born July 25, 1796. born the day of his fathers funeral, Jean went into labor and had to leave the funeral. He died April 25, 1799, age 2 years and 9 mo. He was named Maxwell for his fathers doctor. These chilren all belonged to Jean Burns, there were numerous illigitimate children. 1. A daughter Elizabeth, born to a serving girl, named Elizabeth Patton, born on May 22, 1785 2 Mary Campbell, had a still born son born in Oct. of 1786. 3. May Cameron, bore Burns a son and possiby triplets in the winter of 1787, nothing more is known of them. 4. Jenny, Clow, a serving girl, bore Burns a son in July of 1791. Anna Parks, a barmaid at the Globe Tavern, where Burns frequented, bore him a daughter, Elizabeth, on July 31, 1791. 5. Another daughter Named Elizabeth, mother unknown Burns had 4 daughters, 3 were illigitimate, all 4 were named Elizabeth. From The Olive Tree Burns and Clan Campbell A family of Campbells lived at Bal an Deora, near Taynuilt, (Means burnhouse),during the late 15th and 16 centuries. One of the meanings of deora was "keeper of the holy relics" After the reformation of 1560, the office was discontinued. One of the deora's is said to have had a son, Walter Campbell.. Walter Campbell was driven by political differences to flee his native Argyleshire at night and settled in the parish of Glenburvie. In settleing down he took as a blind the name of Burness or Burnhouse. His son, Walter Burness, was born in the early 1630's. He owned a farm called Bogjoran. He had 4 sons, the 3rd of whom was James Burness born in 1656 and died in 1743. He was a tenant on the farm of Brawlinmuir. It was his son, the third son of a third sonw who was Robert Burness, the poets grandfather. He had three sons, James, Robert and William, William being the father of the poet. ------From "The Poetical Works of Robert Burns" by Charles Kent---- Page 2. This is a letter by Burns written in 1786 , using Burness, To Mr John Richardson, Edinburgh. Mossgiel, Feb. 17, 1786. My dear sir, I have not time at the present to upbraid you for your silence and neglect; I shall only say, I recieved yours with great pleasure. I have enclosed you a piece of rhyming ware for your persual. I have been very busy with the muses since I saw you, and have composed, among several others, "The Ordination ," a poem on Mr. M'Kinleys being called to Kilmarnock,. "Scotch Drink", a poem. "The Cottors Saturday Night," "An Address To The Devil, &c. I have likewise completed my poems on the DOG'S, but have not shewn it to the world. My chief patron now, is Mr. Aiken in Aye. who is pleased to express great approbation of my works. Be so good as to send me Fergguson by Connel, and I will remit you the money. I have no news to acquaint you about Mauchline, they are just going on in he old way.I have some very important news with respect to myself, not the most agreeable news. that I am sure, you cannot guess, but I shall give you the particulars another time. I am extremey happy with Smith; he is the only friend I have left in Mauchline. I can scarcely forgive your long neglect of me, and I beg that you let me hear from you regularly by Connel. If you would act your part as a FRIEND. I am sure, neither good or bad fortune will strange or alter me. Excuse haste, as I got yours but yesterday.------I am, My dear Sir- Yours- ROBt. BURNESS+. This is exactly the way it is writtem, right down to the punctuation marks and the capitol letters. The trouble in Mauchline, I don't know what it is exactly but it was probably about the pregnancy of Jean Armour.. He usually signed his letters just R. B. and sometimes just, Yours. no name afterward. Hope you enjoy, just thought I would share. Bobbi N. Lewis http://community.webtv.net/blew37/THESWEETSMELLOF

    10/26/2000 09:02:45
    1. [BURNS-L] Anyone know these Burns?
    2. I guess it is time to throw in my Burns family. My great grandmother was Elizabeth Burns b.8-1876 d.1-31-1950 m. Galen McKinney Her siblings were Becky, Belle, and Harry Daniel Burns. She was b. in Pa., I do not know where. Her parents were: Daniel Burns m. Hetty Hains (Haines). He was born in Lanc. Co. Pa. At some point he went to Austin in Potter Co. to work in lumbering. Apparently he meet his wife there, or on the way as she was born in Emporium, Pa. They lost family members in a flood in Austin (I have no idea who), built a raft, and with the spring freshet floated down the Susquehanna River, landing in Whisler, below Lancaster. His father was: William Burns m. Rebecca Howett in Lancaster Co. Pa.. I have no dates for him, but his wife's dates are b.1809, d.1891. Their children were Walter, Harriet C.,Robert, Daniel, Henry, Clarkson & Elizabeth Miller. In the 1910 census I found my g. grandmother and her husband Galen had in their household an uncle, Robert Burns. It said he was born in Maryland. So I am assuming that my William and his brother were both born in Maryland. I have a clock that came from their home. I remember my Grandmother telling me they brought it to Lancaster in a covered wagon. I wish I would have thought to ask her from where. Does this sound like anyone's family? William is a dead end to me. I appreciate your taking the time to look at this. Yvonne

    10/26/2000 04:52:53
    1. [BURNS-L] Re: BURNS-D Digest V00 #183
    2. In a message dated 10/25/00 4:04:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << CJ, my grandmother told the same story, but the funny thing is, I can not get beyond her grandfather. lol Maybe someday. Yvonne >> My Grandmother was Gene Burns Harrison. She Was born in Ill in 1880 and told us she was a descendant of Robert Burns. Her grandfather was William Thomson and her grandmother Jane Burns, both born in Aryshire Scotland. Jane's father was William Burns and her mother Elizabeth Walker. I can't get beyond them. William is about the right age to have been Roberts son. Who knows? Jean Nelson

    10/26/2000 04:03:27
    1. [BURNS-L] Re: BURNS-D Digest V00 #182
    2. Yes. My Grandmother told us she was a direct descendant of Robert Burns. Jean Nelson

    10/26/2000 03:43:35
    1. Re: [BURNS-L]Charles Burns...
    2. Dreamwalker
    3. I am so confused now. New Hampshire is as close as I have found any Burns to where mine were from. All my Burns were from Swampscott, Mass. area. Trisha Crys The Tears/Dreamwalker~Lakota <><><><> "A Nation is not conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground.Then it is done, no matter how brave its warriors or how strong its weapons." Cheyenne <><><><> Free Leonard Peltier http://Clemency_for_Peltier.tripod.com <><><><> Support the Oyate http://members.tripod.com/GrassRootsOyate/ <><><><> Just two clicks feeds the worlds children every day....how can you not? http://www.thehungersite.com/ <><><><> The Standing_Ones give us the air we breath....help save them today http://rainforest.care2.com/ <><><><> Vanishing Prayer....see the video then help the Dineh Do what YOUR Heart tells you to http://www.freespeech.org/senaa/ <><><><> "To hear the Eagle cry circling overhead Remember to be as thankful for the struggle as for the dream" Crys The Tears <><><><> This year about 563,100 Americans are expected to die of cancer, more than 1,500 people a day, more than one per minute. http://www.endcancernow.com/ <><>

    10/26/2000 02:59:43
    1. Re: [BURNS-L]Charles Burns...
    2. Robert Jackson
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS-L]Charles Burns... Hi Lorene, No...John Burns went to SW New Hampshire where that line of Burns folks stayed. The best of luck on your Burns search... Bob J. --- Hampton, NH USA ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hello, > > Did any of your Burns go to TN? I have a John Burns born Nov 4, 1788 that > came to TN as a young lad according to his War of 1812 pension file. I just > came back from TN where they informed me a young lad at that time was between > 15 to 20 years old. If this is so, he could have came by himself or with > other families. > > Does this John Burns fit in your line? > > Thank you, > > Lorene Noennig > email [email protected] > > > ==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > BURNS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: BURNS > > > ============================== > The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family > members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. > http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

    10/26/2000 02:39:19
    1. Re: [BURNS-L]Charles Burns...
    2. chaser06
    3. Perhaps he from the BURNS of Chatham Co., NC. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, October 26, 2000 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [BURNS-L]Charles Burns... >Hello, > >Did any of your Burns go to TN? I have a John Burns born Nov 4, 1788 that >came to TN as a young lad according to his War of 1812 pension file. I just >came back from TN where they informed me a young lad at that time was between >15 to 20 years old. If this is so, he could have came by himself or with >other families. > >Does this John Burns fit in your line? > >Thank you, > >Lorene Noennig >email [email protected] > > >==== BURNS Mailing List ==== > BURNS Family Mail List Archives: > courtesy of Rootsweb, our gracious host! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Just type in the mail list's name: BURNS > > >============================== >The only real-time collaboration tool that allows you and other family >members to create a FREE, password-protected family tree. >http://www.ancestry.com/oft/login.asp > >

    10/26/2000 12:53:31
    1. [BURNS-L] RE: Alonzo Burns
    2. Yvonne Strong
    3. Good Morning List! I am new to the Burns list and am searching for the following Burns family: Alonzo Burns served in the Nebraska 2nd Regt as a Corporal. He enlisted 24 February 1863 - his residence was listed as Nemaha City, Nemaha County, Nebraska. Alonzo b: about 1844 (according to military rooster) Alonzo married Alzenia (BOATMAN) MOSIER 13 July 1867 in Richardson County, Nebraska. Alzenia had previously married William MOSIER who died during the Civil War. She had two daughters: Adeline MOSIER and Olive MOSIER. Alonzo's family may be: (1860 Federal Census Nemaha County, Nebraska) William Burns age 45 b: VT (William born Guildhall, VT to Edward Burns of Guildhall, VT?) Lydia Burns age 43 b: PA Mary Burns age 18 b: PA Alonzo Burns age 16 b: PA William Burns age 14 b: PA James Burns age 12 b: PA Esther Burns age 10 b: PA David Burns age 7 b: OH Fuller Burns age 5 b: OH Catherine Burns age 3 b: OH George Burns age 5/12 b: NE I would appreciate any "clue" concerning Alonzo and Alzenia (Boatman) Mosier Burns. Alzenia is my 3rd great aunt. I am sure she and Alonzo had children. Thanks for any help with this family. Yvonne Strong

    10/26/2000 10:32:11