This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: WandaSimmons3959 Surnames: Burch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2346/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, Anyone descended from/related to/researching the Burch Family of Southern Maryland (Charles, Prince George's or St. Mary's counties), please contact me at:cbs196395@yahoo.com. I am putting together an extensive family history and would like to share and get some information on these many Burch lines and branches. I look forward to hearing from you further. Thanks, Wanda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: FredricZS Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you considered DNA testing? Depending on your results, it would show if you are descended from the Oliver BURCH line. As more people descended from Oliver test, it is possible that there may be branch markers that distinguish proven descendants of Thomas through a different son than William (if there are any), from descendants of Thomas's brothers. If you shared those branch markers, it would support that you are a descendant of Thomas, either through William or a brother. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robinfrenchjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/110.577.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I too am trying to find the way through this. Your name caught my attention. There was a Emma Burch born 1846 in Georgia. Married 1869, Has Annie, Leo, Otto and Laneson, they all lived in smithville texas in 1900 -1910 at least. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Robinfrenchjones Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/110.580/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked him up today research for Valentine Burch many will come up. I will try to find it for you. I am also related but can't figure out how to get there. My Grandmother in Mary Fern Burch of Smithville Texas. Her brother is James Herbert Burch I do not even know their parents name I know mom died very son after they were born and they lived with other Burches in Smithville. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kimberlyburch3020 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/1337.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just married into the Burch family in south Carolina.i am african-american.my husband's aunt name is Cecelia Burch.That's weird. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Sallie_Cannon Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/110.579/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would you be so kind as to contact me personally, as I have a photo of Valentine Burch. And, if possible, please indicate your connection to Valentine. I am a descendant of his brother, James Burch, who was also in the Texas Revolution. Thanks Sallie scannon@gt.rr.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franciskeenan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This Thomas Burch served as a private from Hardy County, Virginia (now West Virginia) in the Company of Capt. John Winston, 14th Regiment. This information suggested that Thomas Burch was in Virginia earlier than previously thought. There was this interesting information about the Capt. Winston Company. " Deserted from the co. of John Winston, 14th Va. Regt.: ... Joseph Clarke, native, c. 38; ... " [Source: Genealogical Abstracts from 18th-Century Virginia newspapers. Published by Robert Kirk Headley, 1987, p. 96.] This information suggested the possibility that Thomas Burch served with a Joseph Clarke. Interesting was that Burch married first to a Clark whose given name has remained unknown. The meaning of the abbreviation "c." in the quotation was not available in the on-line version of the book which was found by googling. Also, one must wonder what exactly was meant by the word "native" in the quotation? Could this possibly refer to native Indian? The book should be reviewed and the meaning of abbreviations was listed on p. xix but that page was not available on-line. Could this Clarke in the quotation have had any relationship to the Clark who has been suggested as the first wife of Thomas Burch? These speculative questions were more like "reaching for straws," as it were,with respect to Thos. Burch's 1st wife and they needed further research. "John Winston as Captain from 1776-81 received from the state of Virginia 4000 acres of land. Captain of the 14th Virginia Regiment. 3270-5492-6324-9895-17636. Record was copied from the D.A.R. lineage book. Captain John Winston was a member of the Society of Cincinnati. Born in Hanover County, Virginia and died there." [Source: Winston Family Record at Ancestry.com.] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franciskeenan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you have not already done so, I recommend a search of the Maryland Archives for a record of the marriage of Thomas Burch to a woman with the surname CLARK. This respository has excellent records. If you cannot visit the Maryland Archives, I recommend that you commission a professional genealogist familiar with those archives and who lives nearby and also who is familiar with the system there to undertake such a search for you. If you are unable to find such a person, I can recommend one. If you decide to do this, you will be asked to supply as much information as you have about Thomas Burch for the benefit of the professional genealogist and to assist the search. No guarantees can be made that anything would be found. But, since Thomas Burch had exited the military in 1776 and his first child was born in Prince George's County, Md., that seems to be the place to begin in a quest to learn about the woman named Clark. It seemed likely that Thomas probably married in Maryla! nd and did not go to Hardy County, Virginia, until later. It was generally believed though not proven that some Burches, including Thomas, went to Hardy County, VA, from Prince George's County, MD, in the late 1700s. This was in a Hardy County history book published in 1990. But, the book had many errors in it as do most such county histories. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franciskeenan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your family tree goes much further back in recorded history than William Burch if he is the one that I have mentioned. You will find considerable information about his father, Jonathan Burch, and his grandfather, Oliver Burch, and his great grandfather, Justinian Burch, whose will was recorded in Charles County, MD, probated 23 Feb. 1760, ff. 145-148. Good hunting. If you get into a jam, give me a shout. I can assist. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franciskeenan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Only one piece of circumstantial evidence existed that goes to the idea that Thomas Burch's first wife was and Indian. I said that this information was supplied by a Miss Lydia Melinda Earl. She provided no documentation but claimed that her "proof" was "War Department." No such proof was found there. I think that her claim: "Proof - War Department" pertained to the military service of Thomas Burch and not to his marriages. Her data was published as a Genealogy.com Family Archive Image and the source was cited as GENEALOGICAL RECORDS: MIDWEST PIONEERS, 1600S - 1800S SOLDIERS OF THE REVOLUTION BURIED IN INDIANA, RECORDS OF REVOLUTIONARY SOLDEIRS SURNAMES, a-b, P. 60. There were errors in the listing of issue for Thomas Burch in the records submitted by Miss Earl. I certainly would enjoy a conversation with her. I do not know whether she is yet alive. I have proven that the Thomas Burch, born 1751, son of Jonathan Burch, and who resided in Hardy County, VA, (now WVA)at the time of his death while visiting his family in Fountain County, Indiana, was the father of William Burch of Muskingum County, Indiana. Here is an excerpt from a personal copy of a document related to the intestate estate of Thomas Burch. It involved the necessities of the distribution of the estate to his heirs-at-law. "This indenture made the 7th day of September, 1842, between Jesse Burch and Elizabeth his wife, Jonathan Burch and Catherine his wife,Thomas Burch and Eleanor his wife, late Deborah Burch, Benjamin Burch of the County of Fountain and State of Indiana and William Burch and Elizabeth his wife, of the County of Muskingum, State of Ohio, they being heirs at law and legal representatives of Thomas Burch, late, of Hardy County, Virginia, deceased of the one part and John Burch (he was the executor) of the County of Hardy, Virginia, witnesseth that all parties of the 1st part ... " etc., etc. . , Deed Book 17, p. 278, Hardy County, West Virginia. Family trees are noted for their inauthenticity and Ancestry.com issued a stipulation that these trees are not reviewed by that business for their validity and leaves that to users of the website. Most family trees are unsourced and merely 'pass around' data copied from the work of another who also provided no source material. As such, these trees should be used as clues for further investigation until they are proven to be truthful or not. I do not know where the notion that the Clark woman was a Deleware Indian originated. I had only seen the claim that she was an Indian. No such data was found at NARA. There seems to be a penchant among some who start family tree research to claim when hitting a roadblock in their research, that the reason must be that an Indian, usually a woman, was involved in their family history. These claims have proven difficult to document because the Indian cultures were based upon values radically different than those of the settlers encroaching upon their lands or living among them. Indians viewed property much differently than European settlers and white people born in America. Written records were extremely scarce among most tribes and some records were destroyed. Yet there are some records available. I have not seen any that pertain to the matter at hand, the first wife of Thomas Burch whose name allegedly was CLARK. It may be that Clark died in childbirth. She also could have been a common law wife since no marriage record has ever been found. Thomas Burch's first born child with Clark was Jesse Burch, born in 1778 in Prince George's County, Maryland. This was during the Revolutionary War. Then, Thomas Burch married for the second time to Susanna Talbert and their first child, Jonathan, was born October 27, 1782, also in Maryland. This was a very short time after Thomas Burch's first child with the Clark woman was born. Perhaps Clark abandoned Thomas Burch or he abandoned her. But, this is mere speculation. Then, Thomas Burch married for the third time to Verlinda Harvey on September 7, 1794. Maybe Thomas was a "womanizer." But now I am merely providing some humor to this discussion. Thomas Burch did not apply for a military pension and neither did any of his wives. This was unfortunate for pension application records were very helpful. They often included sworn affidavits, names, places, dates, wives, and other relatives as information in them. I think that Thomas Burch's last military service may have been about Jan. of 1776, the last time that his name appeared on the muster roll at Camp Middlebrook. Hope this helps. Thomas Burch was buried in the BIRCH Cemetery, Fountain County, Indiana. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmburch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do see you are comfortable with Thomas Burch as William Burch's father. However, you are saying that there is no evidence to support Clark as his mother. Is this correct? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmburch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your excellent comments. I believe you are saying that records do not exists to support who are the parents of William Burch (1779-1857) of Muskingum County, OH. We do know from the 1850 Census that William Burch reported being born in Maryland. But this is as far as the records take us. However, several Ancestry Family Trees give the parents of William Burch as Thomas Burch and an unknown Clark of Prince George's County, MD. However, these parents are not proven by any records - at least any records that we know about. I believe, if the parents of William Burch can not be rigorously established, the whole issue as to whether Clark was a Delaware Indian becomes a non issue. Unless some records surface, I will end my family tree with William Burch. Thanks again for your input. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: franciskeenan Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The surname ... CLARK ... is a common one. Clarks were in Prince George's County, Maryland, in the era of Thomas Burch, born there in 1751. Clarks were in Muskingum County, Ohio, in 1820. Clarks are everywhere. The notion that Thomas Burch's first wife was a woman named Clark has never been proven. The source of the claim and its contributor was mentioned in another response to the original message on this board. The source was a book, a secondary source. The secondary source stated that the War Department was its source for the claim that Thomas Burch's first wife (Clark) was an Indian. This has never been proven. The records at NARA have been reviewed without finding anything to suggest that the Clark to whom Thomas Burch was allegedly married was an Indian. In fact, no one knows when and where if at all, Thomas Burch married Clark. The contributor of the information about this Clark having been an Indian was a woman named Lydia Melinda Earl, a family historian in Attica, Indiana. It was claimed as a possibility that Miss Earl likely knew members of the Burch family of Fountain County, Indiana, who must have told Earl that Clark was an Indian. This was a stretch and, even if true, would amount to hearsay evidence and, as such, would not be reliable as fact or evidence or documentation. Was Clark and Indian? No one living knows. Was it possible that Clark was an Indian? Yes. Should research be aimed at discovering the truth of the matter about whether Clark was an Indian? Yes until it is proven or disproven. But, to trust the conclusions of any such research into the matter, the research must be based upon solid foundations. The message to which this one responded claimed: "The 1820 Federal Census reports that Thomas Burch's son William Burch (1759-1857) was living in Jefferson Township, Muskingum County, OH." That census made no such report about William Burch's father. It had no apparatus for discovering parental information. Only the following data was included in the 1820 Federal Census: name of head of household; number of free white males and females in age categories; number of other free persons except Indians not taxed; number of slaves; town and district and county of residence; number of persons to be naturalized; number of persons engaged in ag! riculture, commercial or manufacture; number of "colored" persons; and number of other persons except Indians. Therefore, it was not possible to conclude, based upon informaton from the 1820 census, that any William Burch living in the State of Ohio was the son of anyone. That kind of information was not solicited in the 1820 census. Nevertheless,William Burch, son of Thomas Burch, was in Ohio and was also listed in the 1830, 1840 and 1850 censuses. His brother, Jesse, was also living close by to William in the 1850 census for Muskingum County, Ohio. William Burch was in Muskingum County, Ohio, in 1842 as also proven by the settlement of the intestate estate of his deceased father, Thomas Burch. [See:Deed Book 17, p. 278, Fountain County, Indiana, 9 Sep 1842.]But, William Burch's mere presence some twenty miles from the Indian Reservation in Upper Sandusky, Ohio, does not support a claim or prove that his mother was an Indian or that, if she was an Indian, that she or any of her Indian kin were in the reservation at Upper Sandusky, Ohio. No such evidence was presented. People can believe what they wish. But, good family history comes from hypotheses which are supported by the facts and the facts are connected by primary source documentation which supports the conclusions drawn. Proving any form of Indian ancestry has been extremely difficult. Why has there been nothing found in the records at NARA (National Archives and Records Administration)in Washington, D.C., to support the claim that Thomas Burch's first wife was an Indian? One must wonder on what basis that claim which appeared in an unreliable secondary source in the literature was made? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dmburch123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2334.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1820 Federal Census reports that Thomas Burch's son William Burch (1779-1857) was living in Jefferson Township, Muskingum County, OH. In later censuses, William Burch reports he was born in Maryland. Thus, William Burch moved from Maryland to Ohio before 1820. In the book entitled "The Ohio Frontier," the author Douglas Hurt says that Delaware Indian were settled in lands associated with the Muskingum River (Muskingum County, OH) during the period of 1750-1820. "In 1817,the federal government began in earnest to remake the ohio Indians in the white man's image. It did so by confining them to resevations." As part of this effort, the Delaware Indians were forced off their lands and were sent to a reservation near Upper Sandusky, OH. I believe a legitiment "hypothesis" is that William Burch, who may have been one-half Delaware Indian, originally moved to Muskingum County in order to be close to his mother's family and/or his Indian heritage. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lyndsaypatterson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2344/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think you were looking for the last name of Beal. In my family tree I have a Martin VanBuren Burch who married Anna Elizabeth Beal. They had a daughter named Mary Matilda Burch from Hollis, KS who married Jesse Ray Folsom from Strawberry, KS. They had a son Jule Caryl Folsom who is my grandfather. I don't know if this is what you are looking for but i hope it helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: patswalton1 Surnames: Burch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2343.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I do not know if this is my line, but I am searching a Burch line. When I find them first is in 1878 when Quitman A. Burch marries Alzada Jane "Jennie" Roberts in Vicksburg, MS. He appears in none of the census records (for any year - state or federal) and it has been a brick wall for 30 years. If there is any indication in your records that any of the Burches went to Mississippi, I would love to have them. You can email me: patswalton@gmail.com. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eesseewil Surnames: Burch / Martin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2343/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is anyone working on this line? I'm not related, just found 2 report cards for Doyle, baby girl Burch foot prints b-1949, funeral card for Pirl W. Martin, two letters from Doyle to his parents during the war, and other papers. They lived somewhere around Sedan, Chautaqua Co., Kansas. I'm a genealogy nut, so would really like to get these papers back to their families!!! Let me know, as will need to destroy in 2 months, have too much stuff, have to get it out of here!!!! Not by choice, by necessity!!! Mom left me with 4 bldgs full of things(not valuable) to go thru, and I'm very tired of the clutter!!! Somebody please help me, I really don't want to put this in the recycle!!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: burc4104 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2337.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I appreciate the copies of my Aunt Anna's will. I am searching for members of her family tree, went to sumpter county a few weeks ago but wasn't able to find anyone . I have a eree on the family but not recent members. If you have anything else on her family you can share I would sure appreciate it. I have looked for her family on her fathers side for years,James Ashley Burch Died 1947 in Worth Co. Ga Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX Surnames: BURCH Classification: cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2342/mb.ashx Message Board Post: BURCH David C - Vietnam Wall section 45W - thanks to and honor to this hero who died there Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 216,748 photos free at http://teafor2.com If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: johnburch75 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.burch/2341/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i can tell people looking for the burchs in indiana that william sr sons and their familys left north caroline after 1816 case andrew jackson burch was born and surry co north caroline the dasd of elisha f burch born 1836 greene co indiana but his dad didnt get married till 1838 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.