Dear Nancy, I interpret it to mean that those persons who already have the California vitals (they were open to everyone for awhile) may not tell anyone else what information is contained therein. mg Nancy Porter wrote: > > Mary-Gene: > Does the caption of this e-mail mean that > anyone who shares genealogical info is > under the fear of retribution from the law??? > Kinda narrow minded, I think! > Nancy Porter > > Mary-Gene Page wrote: > > > James L Rader wrote: > > > > > > ALERT AND UPDATE SB1614 - AUGUST 25, 2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > The amended language of the bill presented prior to the Assembly > > > Appropriations Hearing Thursday can be found in my August 17, 2002 > > > > > Report or at the legislative web site <http://www.sen.ca.gov > > > <http://www.sen.ca.gov/> . In spite of the number of opposition > > groups > > > attending the Hearing the bill was moved to Suspense and was voted > > on > > > later in the day. Still in opposition are California State > > Genealogical > > > Alliance, Genealogical & Historical Council of Sacramento Valley, > > > Bastard Nations and allied Adoptees organizations, California > > Newspaper > > > Publishers Association, Axiom and California Bankers Association, > > along > > > with First Amendment Coalition, CALI and several law firms. In > > fact, for > > > the most part the author has made little headway in eliminating > > any of > > > the opposition. Yet, the bill moves on. The vote in Appropriations > > > > > included Assemblymembers Steinberg, Corbett, Goldberg, Washington, > > > > > Correa, Negrete, Alquist, Diaz, McLeod, Wiggins, Aroner, Firbaugh, > > > > > Pavley, Wright, Cohn and Simitian -- ayes. Noes included > > Assemblymembers > > > Bates, Ashburn, Robert Pacheco, Daucher, Maldonado, Runner, Papan > > and > > > Zettel. Assemblymembers Papan and Zettel are the only Democrats > > who have > > > support us. > > > > > > > > > > > > The billl still contains a money issue of county's cost. This > > remain in > > > the bill in spite of the author's objections. She stated that > > those cost > > > were over estimated by the Dept of Health Services. But the cost > > figures > > > remain. The bill no long require a two-thirds vote thought only a > > > simiple majority is need for it to pass. The bill moved to the > > Assembly > > > Floor on Second Reading on Saturday, because the author presented > > more > > > amendments in Appropriations Committee. The amendments have now > > been > > > included in the bill which can be found on the Senate web site. It > > > > > requires that if you own the previously sold indexes, you have six > > > > > months to remove the mother's maiden name on birth index and > > mother's > > > maiden name and social security number on the death index if the > > indexes > > > are on the Internet or open to the public. You will not be allowed > > to > > > share this information under penalty of law. Legal counsel insists > > that > > > the language is unconstitutional. It would seem that we are back > > where > > > we began. > > > > > > > > > > > > The bill is scheduled sometime today on the Floor for a vote on > > the > > > Third Reading, then it will go back to the Senate. I am getting > > > conflicting reports as to if it will return to the Senate > > Judiciary > > > Committee or not. It should, but I was told because it is so late, > > it > > > could go directly to the Floor for a vote. That could be as soon > > as > > > Monday. Now, I am sure you are confessed and wondering what is > > going on, > > > well, so am I. Nothing with this bill is what it should be. > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, I think our continued efforts to stop the bill > > should > > > focus on the entire Senate, rather than just approaching the > > Judiciary > > > Committee. That Committee includes Assemblymembers, Escutia the > > Chair, > > > Kuehl, O'Connell, Peace and Sher, Democrats who all voted yes on > > the > > > bill last time they heard it. The two Republicans Haynes the Vice > > Chair > > > and Ackerman were no votes last time. I will bring you the list of > > the > > > entire Senate below. > > > > > > > > > > > > LET'S LET THEM HEAR FROM US! > > > > > > > > > > > > CALL TO ACTION: Petition to Protect the CA Birth and Death > > Indices. Stop > > > CA Senate Bill 1614 which was issued earlier is still being > > circulated > > > to the legislators and this week the petition information will go > > to > > > newspapers along with other materials in hopes that we can get > > some good > > > news releases out with our side of the issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have not yet signed the petition then do so today. Add your > > voice > > > to the many who oppose SB1614. Sign the petition* to the > > California > > > State Legislature requesting them to STOP SB1614. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.PetitionOnline.com/intrepid/petition.html > > > > > > > > > > > > *Your name and personal information will NOT appear on the > > Internet. It > > > will be provided directly to the petition author, Nina Anne M. > > Greeley, > > > Esq, who will then submit the petition and all signatures to the > > > California State Legislature. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you wish to follow State Legislation you may check the State > > Web site > > > at <http://www.sen.ca.gov <http://www.sen.ca.gov/> > To be added > > to my > > > Network, send your name, name of your organization, and e-mail > > address, > > > stating you wish to be added to the Legislative Network, to > > > <ijones@accessbee.com>. ---CSGA Legislative Network Coordinator, > > Iris > > > Carter Jones, August 25, 2002. [Permission is granted to reprint > > > Legislative reports. Please cite your source.] > > > > > > > > > > > > MEMBERS OF THE SENATE [To locate your Senator by zip code > > > > > > <http://www.sen.ca.gov/ftp/Sen/senplan/Zip.htp] > > > > > > > > > > > > 01-R Rico Oller (916) 445-5788/fax (916)324-2680 > > > Senator.oller@sen.ca.gov 02-D Wes Chesbro (916) 445-3375/fax > > > (916)323-6958 Senator.Chesbro@sen.ca.gov 03-D John Burton (916) > > > 445-1412/fax (916) 445-4722/No Email 04-R Maurice K. Johannessen > > (916) > > > 445-3353/fax (916) 445-7750 Senator.Johannessen@sen.ca.gov# 05-D > > Mike > > > Machado (916) 445-2407/fax (916)323-2304 > > Senator.Machado@sen.ca.gov# > > > 06-D Deborah Ortiz (916) 445-7807/fax (916)323-2263 > > > Senator.Ortiz@sen.ca.gov 07-D Tom Torlakson (916) 445-6083/fax > > > (916)445-2527 Senator.Torlakson@sen.ca.gov# 08-D Jackie Speier > > (916) > > > 445-0503/fax (916)327-2186 Senator.Speier@sen.ca.gov 09-D Don > > Peratta > > > (916) 445-6577/fax (916)327-1997 Senator.Perate@sen.ca.gov 10-D > > Liz > > > Figueroa (916) 445-6671/fax (916)327-2433 > > Senator.Figueroa@sen.ca.gov > > > 11-D Byron Sher (916) 445-6747/fax (916)327-4529 > > Senator.Sher@sen.ca.gov > > > 12-R Dick Monteith (916) 445-1392/fax (916)445-0773 > > > Senator.Monteith@sen.ca.gov 13-D John Vasconcellos (916) > > 445-9740/fax > > > (916)324-0283 Senator.Vasconcellos@sen.ca.gov 14-R Chalres > > Poochigian > > > (916) 445-9600/fax (916)327-3523 Senator.Poochigian@en.ca.gov 15-R > > Bruce > > > McPherson (916) 445-5843/fax (916)445-8081 > > Senator.mcpherson@sen.ca.gov > > > 16-D Jim Costa (916) 445-4641/fax (916)327-5989 > > Senator.Costa@sen.ca.gov > > > 17-R William 'Pete' J. Knight (916) 445-6637/fax (916)445-4662 > > > Senator.Knight@sen.ca.gov 18-D Jack O'Connell (916) 445-5405/fax > > > (916)322-3304 Senator.OConnell@sen.ca.gov 19-R Tom McClintock > > (916) > > > 445-8873/fax (916)324-7544 Senator.McClintock@sen.ca.gov 20-D > > Richard > > > Alarcon (916) 445-7928/fax (916)324-6645 > > Senator.Alarcon@sen.ca.gov 21-D > > > Jack Scott (916) 445-5976/fax (916)324-7543 > > Senator.Scott@sen.ca.gov > > > 22-D Richard Polanco (916) 445-3456/fax (916)445-0413 > > > Senator.Polanco@sen.ca.gov 23-D Sheila James Kuehl (916) > > 445-1353/fax > > > (916)324-4823 Senator.Kuehl@sen.ca.gov# 24-D Gloria Romero (916) > > > 445-1418/fax (916)445-0485 Senator.Romero@sen.ca.gov# 25-D Edward > > > Vincent (916) 445-2104/fax (916)445-3712 > > Senator.Vincent@sen.ca.gov# > > > 26-D Keven Murray (916) 445-8800/fax (916)445-8899 > > > Senator.Murray@sen.ca.gov 27-D Betty Karnette (916) 445-6447/fax > > > (916)327-9113 Senator.Karnette@sen.ca.gov 28-D Debra Bowen (916) > > > 445-5953/fax (916)323-6056 Senator.Bowen@sen.ca.gov 29-R Bob > > Margett > > > (916) 445-2848/fax (916)324-0922 Senator.Margett@sen.ca.gov 30-D > > Martha > > > Escutia (916) 445-3090/fax (916)327-8755 > > Senator.Escutia@sen.ca.gov 31-R > > > James L. Brulte (916) 445-3688/fax (916)327-2272 > > > Senator.Brulte@sen.ca.gov 32-D Nell Soto (916) 445-6868/fax > > > (916)445-0128 Senator.Soto@sen.ca.gov 33-R Dick Ackerman (916) > > > 445-4264/fax (916)445-9754 Senator.ackerman@sen.ca.gov 34-D Joseph > > Dunn > > > (916) 445-5831/fax (916)322-2323 Senator.Dunn@sen.ca.gov > > > > > > 35-R Ross Johnson (916) 445-4961/fax & Email none > > > > > > 36-R Raymond N. Haynes (916) 445-9781/fax (916)447-9008 > > > senator.haynes@sen.ca.gov 37-R Jim Battin (916) 445-5581/fax > > > (916)327-2187 Senator.Battin@sen.ca.gov 38-R Bill Morrow (916) > > > 445-3731/fax (916)446-7382 Senator.Morrow@sen.ca.gov# 39-D Dede > > Alpert > > > (916) 445-3952/fax (916)327-2188 Senator.Alpert@sen.ca.gov 40-D > > Steve > > > Peace (916) 445-6767/fax (916)327-3522 Senator.Peace@sen.ca.gov > > > > > > > > > > > > # Indicates that the Senator does not have an Email address > > listed. 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